Does this sound like a dead battery? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My N4 started to have battery issues after the kitkat update lasting no longer than 6 hours even turned off. It also started to take longer to charge and gradually this got worse and now all I get is a red light when plugged in but I can't turn it on now.
I guess my battery is stuffed, but could it be that the upgrade did this or (I hope) it was just a coincidence.
I've ordered a new battery and tools but I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

mrirvs said:
My N4 started to have battery issues after the kitkat update lasting no longer than 6 hours even turned off. It also started to take longer to charge and gradually this got worse and now all I get is a red light when plugged in but I can't turn it on now.
I guess my battery is stuffed, but could it be that the upgrade did this or (I hope) it was just a coincidence.
I've ordered a new battery and tools but I would appreciate your thoughts on this.
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It has been written that the battery shouldn't be run down past 15%. I don't know this for a fact, but that could be one of the issues. Another issue would be an app that is constantly running, but there's no way to find out if you can't boot the phone.
As far as the upgrade is concerned, it's iffy at best because a lot of people have upgraded with no problems.
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)

mrirvs said:
My N4 started to have battery issues after the kitkat update lasting no longer than 6 hours even turned off. It also started to take longer to charge and gradually this got worse and now all I get is a red light when plugged in but I can't turn it on now.
I guess my battery is stuffed, but could it be that the upgrade did this or (I hope) it was just a coincidence.
I've ordered a new battery and tools but I would appreciate your thoughts on this.
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Too me, I bought my 2 days ago, my battery is draining too much fast than should be, I think this 4.4.2 have something bugged that start to drain all the battery, only with screen awake after 3 hours my battery is 30% only with browser and menu s...
Try go to 4.3 again and then you see if is the battery or the rom...

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Battery life sucks?!

So last night was NYE. I took my phone out with me and the battery was at 100% according to Touch IT ROM.
I took 4 or 5 pictures which were terrible, the camera sucks.
I stayed at a mates and woke up this morning, the battery was down to 20%?!
I haven't even used the phone and after 16hours or so the battery was nearly dead. What the hell, am I doing something wrong.
I always thought the battery sucked but this is a joke
Evostance said:
So last night was NYE. I took my phone out with me and the battery was at 100% according to Touch IT ROM.
I took 4 or 5 pictures which were terrible, the camera sucks.
I stayed at a mates and woke up this morning, the battery was down to 20%?!
I haven't even used the phone and after 16hours or so the battery was nearly dead. What the hell, am I doing something wrong.
I always thought the battery sucked but this is a joke
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same here ill try to get a new one
Check if you have any applications running in the background. Do you have Wifi turned on, bluetooth? Every module that is enabled keeps sucking power. If you don't turn them off, your phone can indeed get drained pretty quick. The battery is just fine, 1500mAh isn't bad at all. Do keep in mind that - due to the big screen and many options - phones like this just don't last for a week.
Also, did you fully uncharge your battery when you first used the phone?
If the problem persists, you can always contact SE to get a new one, as it's not supposed to drain that fast.
I know on the old P990 if you didn't exit the camera app correctly it just ran in the background and drained the battery. I do a double check in the task manager every so often to ensure that nothing was left running that shouldn't be.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463775
This is a thread from Touch HD about AE Button Plus.
I am testing this now on my X1 because I am alos not happy with MY battery life.
dingolino
the camera is not that bad, actually it's one of the bests I seen in a mobile device... anyways, don't expect to take, for example, good night photos, but actually, with good lighting the photos came really nice.
as for battery; I'm sure you shoudl have something (maybe wayfinder) running in the background, with moderate use I get 3-4 days of battery without problems; and I never let it get down 40%.
i get about 2 days max on my battery. thats with nothing running in the background, althought it does ckeck my emails every 15 mins.
shame u cant buy a bigger battery like a 3000 that would last twice as long as 4 days on one charge would be amazing
Hm.... i have another one for you guys. I was using the phone non stop for the past couple of days. Wi-fi is always on and i watch media and use opera a lot. The battery lasts for about 8 hours. When i got the phone the battery was almost dead. I did charge it but for a couple of hours only. Then i charged it overnight for 12 hours. Did the fact that i did not charge it for a long time from the box affects my battery life???
orelsi said:
Hm.... i have another one for you guys. I was using the phone non stop for the past couple of days. Wi-fi is always on and i watch media and use opera a lot. The battery lasts for about 8 hours. When i got the phone the battery was almost dead. I did charge it but for a couple of hours only. Then i charged it overnight for 12 hours. Did the fact that i did not charge it for a long time from the box affects my battery life???
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yeah, i did that with a phone i bought about 2 years ago and had to get a new battery as the original one would die after a day or 2 (should last about a week as was standard phone). i always leave a new phone on charge overnight now so i know its charged all the cells
I'm not going to say that you guys are wrong, but...
This phone, does not need to be fully drained the first time you use it, nor does it need to be fully charged. That was only an issue on older batteries, it's not an issue anymore.
I also believe it says so in the manual somewhere So, I'm guessing you guys had some defect batteries, cuz it's not an issue with the battery thats in the X1.
are you using Itjes latest HD based rom?
I found I got really bad battery life out of it for a couple of days till I let it run down to under 10% then charged it again. It's working fine now.
CantoX1i said:
I'm not going to say that you guys are wrong, but...
This phone, does not need to be fully drained the first time you use it, nor does it need to be fully charged. That was only an issue on older batteries, it's not an issue anymore.
I also believe it says so in the manual somewhere So, I'm guessing you guys had some defect batteries, cuz it's not an issue with the battery thats in the X1.
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I heard the same thing from a couple of people. Older batteries had that problem but modern ones don't. I just wanted to make sure =P
u might be right. like i said it was about 2 years ago it happened to my phone. but why take the risk
The only thing I had on was wifi and check mail every 30minutes.
I only use general useage (8 pictures and a few messages)
but that was it. I dont understand. I charged it for 20mins and its gone from 20% to 60%.
7hours later its only on 50%. Strange thing is, my phone has been on a radiator all day and it hasnt last that much charge.
Last night it was freezing -4c outside and wasnt that warm inside, then I slept in a cold room. I wonder if heat has anything to do with it :S
Evostance said:
The only thing I had on was wifi and check mail every 30minutes.
I only use general useage (8 pictures and a few messages)
but that was it. I dont understand. I charged it for 20mins and its gone from 20% to 60%.
7hours later its only on 50%. Strange thing is, my phone has been on a radiator all day and it hasnt last that much charge.
Last night it was freezing -4c outside and wasnt that warm inside, then I slept in a cold room. I wonder if heat has anything to do with it :S
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Did you flash your phone recently? was the battery at full before you flashed it? it's been reported as a problem on other phones (I remember the UNI used to do this) that if you flashed when the battery wasn't at full it messed up the power levels.
Evostance said:
So last night was NYE. I took my phone out with me and the battery was at 100% according to Touch IT ROM.
I took 4 or 5 pictures which were terrible, the camera sucks.
I stayed at a mates and woke up this morning, the battery was down to 20%?!
I haven't even used the phone and after 16hours or so the battery was nearly dead. What the hell, am I doing something wrong.
I always thought the battery sucked but this is a joke
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Mine was crap the first few days. I read somewhere on this forum to run battery to zero and charge overnight with the phone off. Mine now lasts all day and is recharged each night.
Just a sidetrack with regards to batteries...
When I charge my X1 with the device turned on, the battery tends to heat up till even the casing is hot to the touch. Is anyone else encountering the same thing?
However, when the device is off while charging, the battery doesn't heat up.
Weird...
It depends on what applications you've installed.... Touch flo drains it like hell.
My phone looks like this.
I use SE panel 1, no other gimmicks.
Pocket player for music 2 hrs each day.
15 min of video here and there.
2 hrs of phone calls, and a hell a lot of messages, which means keeping on switching the phone from potrait to landscape and so on...
SPB phone suite.
SPB wallet.
SPB Wireless manager.
I get a solid 2 days with about 15% remaining at the end of the second day...
thengwee said:
Just a sidetrack with regards to batteries...
When I charge my X1 with the device turned on, the battery tends to heat up till even the casing is hot to the touch. Is anyone else encountering the same thing?
However, when the device is off while charging, the battery doesn't heat up.
Weird...
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As much as possible put the phone in sleep mode when you charge the battery. And the battery gets more heated up when charging over USB.
Hi!
I had the same problem some days ago. Even if the X1 slept on my desk with no application running, after 2 days the battery was empty.
I thought about what I installed last and deinstalled Batti. And now the battery lives much longer.
Btw... does anyone know a good app to show the status of the battery? Or how I can show it instead of the clock?
Batti was great but charging every second day was not.

Battery drains faster than it should

Hello there,
I would really like some advice - my battery is draining like water. I'm quite convinced it is the regulation of the unit; I bought a 2400mAh battery replacement and it lasted ages on first go, but then my G1 started draining stupidly fast after I'd recharged it. This also happens on the stock battery too (buy even quicker!). I'm convinced it is the regulation because a) I've never had battery problems previously and b) the battery meter starts at about 26% when I plug it it in (after the phone shuts off from it being dead and I then plug in the charger).
I actually have a bricked G1 that still charges batteries, so I thought I'd do an overnight charge on the battery that way, to 'remind' the other G1 what a 100% battery is like, but that didn't seem to work either.
Can someone help? Is this a known problem? I would really appreciate any advice.
Mark
Things that cause ridiculous battery drain;
Backlight, keep it at no more than 30%
Wifi - turn off search for open networks,
Gps - wow does this drain
gridlock32404 said:
Things that cause ridiculous battery drain;
Backlight, keep it at no more than 30%
Wifi - turn off search for open networks,
Gps - wow does this drain
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GPS doesn't really drain battery unless it's actively being used...at least not on my phone.
You can also try disabling 3G if you're not in a 3G area. It will keep trying to find a 3G signal, which really drains battery.
For the record, I have a stock battery that I get ~13-16 hours on from a single charge... my backlight is at 40%, GPS is always on, and I use wifi whenever I want to surf the web and am near an open network.
OP...if your battery is lasting you only a couple of hours, then I'd try to reflash your ROM. Might help...
Wow 13 to 16, I am lucky if I get 6 with 30% backlight, and wi-fi and gps off, I have always gotten that on ever rom even stock with no widgets, you are one of the very few with good battery life cause I have seen many complaints about short battery ranges
gridlock32404 said:
Wow 13 to 16, I am lucky if I get 6 with 30% backlight, and wi-fi and gps off, I have always gotten that on ever rom even stock with no widgets, you are one of the very few with good battery life cause I have seen many complaints about short battery ranges
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Yeah, that's on a normal, moderate usage day. If I use it heavily, with a lot of wifi and web browsing, then I'll get around 10.
Maybe your battery needs to be replaced... could just be old and not holding a charge properly.
It's 2 months old, has done it from day one, I also have another battery that does it too that I kept from a previously brick g1, so one 3 phones, all the same battery life but then I use it quite heavily, always browsing on the web since my computer burned out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555048
try that? 3rd gen battery could help..
Thanks for the suggestions, but it's not a wifi/3g/brightness etc problem - I've had a G1 for six months, I know exactly how much power should be consumed. It's also not the battery; I have two stock batteries and a brand new 2400mAh battery, which for the first few charges lasted about 2 - 2.5 days and was brilliant (as it should be), but now doesn't last all that long.
I may have made the situation slightly better however - I did a Nandroid backup, wiped to factory (well, Cyanogen 4.0.4 anyway) and booted into that. I then restored the backup and when I plugged back in to the charger, the meter was at 85%, and seemed to take a normal amount of time to charge (and not jump to 100%). It remains to be seen if the problem is solved, I've yet to have the battery drain (this is a good sign though) an plug in the charger to see if it will jump from 0 to 25 or not.
I'll re-post when I know.
run the battery down until the phone shuts off without plugging it in.
charge the battery while the phone is off over night
do this 3-5 times and see if you get any improvement.
also remember some of the cheap 2400 batts from ebay and such claim 2400 but that is from 3.5V to 3.0V. The G1 considers 3.2V to be dead so you only get from 3.5V to 3.2V which sucks.
I'm with gridlock on this one. My batteries suck. It always needs a mid day charge. And to the poster that said to reflash a rom, that is bad advice. There is known issues with getting poor performance out of these batteries. I have 2 and both do the same. Got the second one from complaining to t-mo about how bad it sucks.
Reflashing seems to have worked...the 2400mAh battery seems a lot better now, it lasted nearly two days (it runs at 3.7v, according to my battery diagnostic), I've only just recharged it last night. When I plug it in, it charges normally and linearly now, instead of jumping straight to 25%.
So my advice, if anyone is having similar problems to me, would be to try a reflash.
Thanks for your help everyone.

98% deep sleep but 48% battery drain? What gives!

I charged my phone for a little bit last night because it was a little low (48%). I took it off at about 77%. I don't understand what happened. Why did it just drop like a rock? Phone is AT&T LG g2, stock 4.2.2 rooted.
Jesus that can't be good.
I have no clue about this one; it's just too weird.
I'd probably let it fully deplete and then completely charge it and see if it ever does it again.
joeyvanhummel said:
Jesus that can't be good.
I have no clue about this one; it's just too weird.
I'd probably let it fully deplete and then completely charge it and see if it ever does it again.
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That's what I'm going to do. Unfortunately this is not the first time it has happened. This happened about 2 weeks ago, but then my GSAM showed a HUGE signal decrease at the same time my battery drained, so I figured it was just that.
This time I just do not understand. I've had this phone since August or September and it's been great until this randomly started happening in the past couple weeks.
ksc6000 said:
That's what I'm going to do. Unfortunately this is not the first time it has happened. This happened about 2 weeks ago, but then my GSAM showed a HUGE signal decrease at the same time my battery drained, so I figured it was just that.
This time I just do not understand. I've had this phone since August or September and it's been great until this randomly started happening in the past couple weeks.
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Well it says 66% of that was phone radio signal. So that is the problem 90%. I had similat problem only it was while charging, so my phone wasnt charging almost at all, when i restarted it was charging fine (from 20% to 100% in 90 min) . What happened when u picked it up, was it still doing that? Or maybe its a some kind of cpu loop if that is even possible. Some people was complaining about nexus 5 rapidly discharging with combo of some lite apps (news readers).
5ch said:
Well it says 66% of that was phone radio signal. So that is the problem 90%. I had similat problem only it was while charging, so my phone wasnt charging almost at all, when i restarted it was charging fine (from 20% to 100% in 90 min) . What happened when u picked it up, was it still doing that? Or maybe its a some kind of cpu loop if that is even possible. Some people was complaining about nexus 5 rapidly discharging with combo of some lite apps (news readers).
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Yes even after picking it up, the drain continued. I've let it die and am charging the phone while it's off but I don't know if the problem will be fixed.
The youtube app was causing a major battery drain for me a few days ago,now I close it after using it just in case . I'm in the habit of checking the phone's temperature at all times :/
it has a great battery life, especially sceen on time, but the standby isn't top notch at all, I think it's poor software optimization on LG's end, I hope 4.4.2 fixes it.
charge till full. then reboot and check battery percentage.
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[Q] Is the battery gone or miscalibrated?

hello everyone, I'm a new note owner, I bought it used and I think it has two years on it, but it is in great shape. I noticed however, that the battery life isn't that amazing as people have told me, this coming from a Galaxy alpha user. I will leave screenshots of today's battery life and I think it isn't that amazing what it got
I've heard about battery miscalibration, is this really a thing? I can try and calibrated but I need to root it, & I wasn't really looking forward to reading it, since its lollipop on stock rom.
The screenshots are bellow of screen on time and total time, you can see that it's not consistent and I charge my phone two times a day.
http://imgur.com/a/ShaLI
I'm using lollipop official rom flashed on Odin via download mode, yes the rom is compatible with my country's frequencies so there's not really a problem there.
I notice however that the battery sort of goes down faster sometimes more than others, sometimes even going as far as draining 10% simply being on stand-by with LTE enabled for 2 hours in my pocket when I'm in class.
Is this normal behavior?
I don't think there is any such thing called miscalibration, I mean I am not sure, but well.
If your phone is 2 years old, then I think the battery has seen its life, time to get a new one mate.
Battery recalibrates itself .
However as the battery is old then Drain the battery to 5% power off charge fully unplug wait one hour top up charge and use .
Next step is new battery Anker brand is good .
Wiping battery stats/ supposed calibration has nothing to do with battery calibration and will make no difference .
Lithium-ion batteries last about 300-500 charging cycles, after that the risk of it dying increases exponentially. Some last 5 years, some 1. It depends on usage and environmental factors.
There is no such thing as recalibrating a modern lithium ion battery. It doesn't have a memory.
New battery costs about 20 quid, it should solve the problem.
Also, did you do a reset after the update? Updates can cause battery drain too, quite often.
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No, I did not do a reset after the update. But I noticed this before updating to lollipop, I had to do some running around before I got home the day I bought it, and it was running KitKat 4.4. I got it with 93% of battery, walked home for a bit and was down to 65, went to the shopping and back, got home with 40 to 35%. (I bought the phone at around 5 pm and finally got home after going to the mall at around 8pm)
MikeTheBlueFox said:
No, I did not do a reset after the update. But I noticed this before updating to lollipop, I had to do some running around before I got home the day I bought it, and it was running KitKat 4.4. I got it with 93% of battery, walked home for a bit and was down to 65, went to the shopping and back, got home with 40 to 35%. (I bought the phone at around 5 pm and finally got home after going to the mall at around 8pm)
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Then it's the battery, most likely.

Battery issues, confused.

6P has been shutting down early for a while now, usually like 10% or less which never really bothered me. Battery life seemed decent, but I never really tracked it.
Last week it started going off at 15-30% at times. But it can be random. Might go below 10% one time, next shuts off at 30%. This was on a prior version of Pure Nexus. So I tried updating to the latest build. First charge it shut down at 40%. Same crap tho, random shut off times. Today it shut down at 48%. By shut down, I mean it just suddenly gives the low battery warning, reports 0% and turns off. Many times I can restart the phone, and it will say like 1-3%, and let me use it for a while before turning off again. This most recent one at the 48% shutdown, I restarted it, showed 1%, used it for a while before it turned off again. Restarted, now shows 18%.
Wtf? Is this just a charge level reporting issue? Tried battery repair/calibration apps/techniques with no success. Nothing looks bad with regards to apps/services draining the battery. I tried accubattery and says I'm at 70% health. Don't even get 2 hours of SOT. Have a replacement battery in the mail. Think this will solve the issues?
It's known issue with some factory battery's for some reason the phone is thinking the battery is low and shutting down even though it's reporting let's say 50%. I didn't have this issue until I bought a cheap replacement would shut down at random percentages especially when opening something power hungry like camera. The only thing you can do is get a replacement and change or send it in to get changed. If you replace it yourself I suggest testing the battery before you put the phone back together. I think the 6p is a great phone and worth it to replace the battery. That just my opinion best of luck. ?
BeavermanA said:
Wtf? I tried accubattery and says I'm at 70% health. Don't even get 2 hours of SOT. Have a replacement battery in the mail. Think this will solve the issues?
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@ 70% your battery has been toast for quite a while. This degradation doesn't happen overnight. If you did your research and purchased one of the "good" replacement batteries from a known good vendor then, yes it will likely completely solve your problem. If you just bought a random battery from Ebay or BFE, then you may have another dud on your hands. Suggest testing the new battery with Accubattery before sealing it back up. Best of luck.
Exodusche said:
It's known issue with some factory battery's for some reason the phone is thinking the battery is low and shutting down even though it's reporting let's say 50%. I didn't have this issue until I bought a cheap replacement would shut down at random percentages especially when opening something power hungry like camera. The only thing you can do is get a replacement and change or send it in to get changed. If you replace it yourself I suggest testing the battery before you put the phone back together. I think the 6p is a great phone and worth it to replace the battery. That just my opinion best of luck.
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Interesting. Did notice a couple of the times it shut down, and it was this last time at 48% as well, was when opening a power hungry game. And yes I agree the 6p is still awesome today, by far the longest I've had a phone. Considered getting the Pixel 2 XL, but it's a waste of money to me if I can get the 6P working well again.
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@ 70% your battery has been toast for quite a while. This degradation doesn't happen overnight. If you did your research and purchased one of the "good" replacement batteries from a known good vendor then, yes it will likely completely solve your problem. If you just bought a random battery from Ebay or BFE, then you may have another dud on your hands. Suggest testing the new battery with Accubattery before sealing it back up. Best of luck.
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Hmm, yeah I grabbed one off ebay. Had over 500 sold though, so hopefully not too terrible, but I will test.
I think it has really degraded in the last ~6 months. Possibly from numerous partial charges? Got a new job in April, and I'm often traveling to different sites only 10-15 minutes apart. During this time plug it into my car for Android Auto.
Thanks for the help guys!
In the same boat (But I have a solution for me)
2 weeks ago I upgraded from a beaten GS6 Edge and I am quite fond of my new phone. However I started experiencing this issue, ignored it for the first week since my S6 at 100% battery would die in an hour or two, if I'm lucky. Then the battery problem became an interest to me. I had read a lot of threads on the issue, some saying its a hardware problem, and some saying just a software bug that hasn't (or can't) be fixed. SOOOO at this point I said screw it and just accepted my phone battery as it is. Installed Dirty Unicorns Rom, messed with settings, and boom a breakthrough (I think). DU has a feature called smart pixels in which to save battery life turns off a percentage of the pixels. Wasn't to fond of this at first, but in order to make my 60 - 70 percent battery last i set it to the lowest setting. Every since then I have had maybe one random shutdown, it's only been a week and a lot could change but for me its working pretty well.
Sidenote: I found that not using camera apps, nor Google assistant had also prevented random shutdowns (this helped me with smart pixels enabled and disabled, if you wanna give it ago on stock)
Hello guys. I am experiencing random shutting downs on my phone too. I bought it in January 2017.
What I have observed and today was confirmed is that I have these unexpected shutting down when I charge the phone with fast charge. Today my phone was at 60% and shut down. When I plugged my phone on the charger, the phone was again at 60%!!! How was it possible? I think the problem might be the battery or the internal controller of the charging system...

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