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This is the 4th time I've opened my task manager today and realized I was using over a gig. It easy to use over a gig when its there
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a phone OS using more ram than Vista??? not a good sign. God where are the AOSP roms already :crying:
Kernel knows it has more memory available so apps are more likely to stay in their suspended state, rather than removed from memory.
But I enjoy the 2GB of ram for sure.
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a phone OS using more ram than Vista??? not a good sign. God where are the AOSP roms already :crying:
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Using RAM is not bad; needing RAM is bad. Android 4.0 can easily run with less than 400 MB, but some things can be a little faster when they don't have to constantly reload.
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Kernel knows it has more memory available so apps are more likely to stay in their suspended state, rather than removed from memory.
But I enjoy the 2GB of ram for sure.
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This. Everything switches back instantly!!
One of the most frustrating parts of the HTC OneX for me was when i was reading a long page of comments on sites like the verge or typing up a forum post. If i left the browser to reply to a text or facebook notification, and then returned to the browser it would always reload a page, and at the top.
Even the (heavy) Sense 4 launcher would have to load up every now and then.
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Using RAM is not bad; needing RAM is bad. Android 4.0 can easily run with less than 400 MB, but some things can be a little faster when they don't have to constantly reload.
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i wasn't making fun of android, i was making fun of touchwiz. too much bloat.
If the RAM will mean Nova Launcher wont reload itself as much as it currently does on my Incredible, then that's reason enough for me.
Having had the 1X for a month the 2 gb ram was one of the reasons I switched.
The 2GB of ram (and LTE) has been excessively downplayed by the International crowd because..well..they don't have it. The fact is the 2GB of ram should allow a stock phone to reload things much less. If you want to look forward 6 months to a year, I think the difference will be potentially much larger when we start to see creative devs tweaking their kernels to really use this extra ram. This is a ground breaking hardware move. We haven't even really begun to see what is possible. Judging any of these based on stock software at release is pointless. Think about how much better other phones have gotten after a few OTA updates....this device, especially with the extra ram is really well equipped for a long time.
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The 2GB of ram (and LTE) has been excessively downplayed by the International crowd because..well..they don't have it. The fact is the 2GB of ram should allow a stock phone to reload things much less. If you want to look forward 6 months to a year, I think the difference will be potentially much larger when we start to see creative devs tweaking their kernels to really use this extra ram. This is a ground breaking hardware move. We haven't even really begun to see what is possible. Judging any of these based on stock software at release is pointless. Think about how much better other phones have gotten after a few OTA updates....this device, especially with the extra ram is really well equipped for a long time.
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By the time any phone will actually use 2gb of ram, im sure most of us will have moved on to a new phone already. Of course having the extra ram is good for bragging rights, but does it actually mean anything? I'll say no, but im sure some will argue that.
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By the time any phone will actually use 2gb of ram, im sure most of us will have moved on to a new phone already. Of course having the extra ram is good for bragging rights, but does it actually mean anything? I'll say no, but im sure some will argue that.
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they already make use of 1.1-1.2GB of ram out of the box running all stock software.......imagine if custom roms/kernels were available that make use of it....it's not far off....."by the time any phone will use" is closer than you think
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they already make use of 1.1-1.2GB of ram out of the box running all stock software.......imagine if custom roms/kernels were available that make use of it....it's not far off....."by the time any phone will use" is closer than you think
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This is good in theory but everyone on here is talking like we have been missing two gigs all this time in our phones. If you are coming to the S3 from a single core phone of course this is night and day. My SGSII has NEVER.....I repeat NEVER run out of memory lost track multitasking or had to close out multiple apps to make room for more.....how many apps does one need sitting in a suspended state?.....I have 5 or 6 apps open at any given time with PLENTY of room for more...sure the extra ram is nice to have, but its completely unnecessary ....dual cores with a gig of ram have NO problem doing heavy multitasking .....ask anyone running as SGSII or Gnex.
The extra ram in the S3 is there to offset the loss of quadcore....its a nice helping hand to the Krait chip but not necessary for everyday multitasking that the average person does.....I don't know what phones alot of you guys are coming from but from the sounds of these posts they were serious under achievers.
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This is good in theory but everyone on here is talking like we have been missing two gigs all this time in our phones. If you are coming to the S3 from a single core phone of course this is night and day. My SGSII has NEVER.....I repeat NEVER run out of memory lost track multitasking or had to close out multiple apps to make room for more.....how many apps does one need sitting in a suspended state?.....I have 5 or 6 apps open at any given time with PLENTY of room for more...sure the extra ram is nice to have, but its completely unnecessary ....dual cores with a gig of ram have NO problem doing heavy multitasking .....ask anyone running as SGSII or Gnex.
The extra ram in the S3 is there to offset the loss of quadcore....its a nice helping hand to the Krait chip but not necessary for everyday multitasking that the average person does.....I don't know what phones alot of you guys are coming from but from the sounds of these posts they were serious under achievers.
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i think the reason you never saw your device running out of room is likely because the system knew how much memory it had to work with and was always adjusting things to accommodate as much memory....if the system had more memory available to it it can behave differently....it's not about "how many apps one needs in a suspended state", it's about "the more apps you can keep in a suspended state the quicker the apps will run for the user"
i know this isn't x86 and it's not windows, but the analogy still stands, consider Windows 7
if you build a pc using it with 2Gb of ram it will run just fine, it will use somewhere around 1Gb of ram sitting idle, using it for the prefetch cache to be ready to launch your most used apps while maintaining a safe amount of memory for sudden useage/overhead
if you upgrade that same pc to 4Gb of ram, it will use close to 2Gb at idle.....it's not quite linear as that but you can see a direct correlation between available memory and memory utilization
the Linux kernel behind android appears to work very similarly, it will keep the most called upon code in local memory so that it launches faster when next called upon. the more memory available to the kernel, the less time it can spend killing apps in order to maintain that same level of free memory for the unexpected execution of a new app
the more memory it has, if it is written/compiled to take advantage of it, the more potential for performance is there.
I would say the 2Gb of memory is more easily utilized than the additional redundant cores in the Exynos kit. I have been looking for some real data on Android and SMP but I know recently Intel made a rare public statement about how it is not ready for even dual core utilization. I don't think Intel would make such a specific claim without data. I don't think the Exynos users are really getting much good at all from the four cores other than synthetic benchmark scores and I think they could see more benefits down the road from more memory than redundant A9 older technology additional cores.
disclaimer: I am still learning about all this so if some smart guy comes along and sees something above that is not quite right....it's not because I am making this up....it's what I understand to be true based on reading.
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i think the reason you never saw your device running out of room is likely because the system knew how much memory it had to work with and was always adjusting things to accommodate as much memory....if the system had more memory available to it it can behave differently....it's not about "how many apps one needs in a suspended state", it's about "the more apps you can keep in a suspended state the quicker the apps will run for the user"
i know this isn't x86 and it's not windows, but the analogy still stands, consider Windows 7
if you build a pc using it with 2Gb of ram it will run just fine, it will use somewhere around 1Gb of ram sitting idle, using it for the prefetch cache to be ready to launch your most used apps while maintaining a safe amount of memory for sudden useage/overhead
if you upgrade that same pc to 4Gb of ram, it will use close to 2Gb at idle.....it's not quite linear as that but you can see a direct correlation between available memory and memory utilization
the Linux kernel behind android appears to work very similarly, it will keep the most called upon code in local memory so that it launches faster when next called upon. the more memory available to the kernel, the less time it can spend killing apps in order to maintain that same level of free memory for the unexpected execution of a new app
the more memory it has, if it is written/compiled to take advantage of it, the more potential for performance is there.
I would say the 2Gb of memory is more easily utilized than the additional redundant cores in the Exynos kit. I have been looking for some real data on Android and SMP but I know recently Intel made a rare public statement about how it is not ready for even dual core utilization. I don't think Intel would make such a specific claim without data. I don't think the Exynos users are really getting much good at all from the four cores other than synthetic benchmark scores and I think they could see more benefits down the road from more memory than redundant A9 older technology additional cores.
disclaimer: I am still learning about all this so if some smart guy comes along and sees something above that is not quite right....it's not because I am making this up....it's what I understand to be true based on reading.
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You are pretty spot on for the most part....but the difference here lies in the amount of ram needed to cache applications and perform extended tasks.....the reason my GSII never runs out of memory is because it has plenty for any array of tasks. While caching 8 applications I use all day...and still have anywhere from 325 to 400 megs available for any other array tasks .....I just can't see where I would need more.
As for your earlier mention of custom roms.....this becomes even less necessary ....right now a stock GS3 is using over a gig.....that's because its loaded chock full O'carrier BS on top of all samsungs layers of bloat and BS "features"....you strip all that crap out and you have a 275mb OS and more ram than you will know what to do with.
Bloat is the only thing requiring this extra ram because its running at system level which is also why Sense stuffed a dagger in the H1X.
Performance for launching is helped greatly by the processor for anything not in ram and the threshold for my phone is 64mb....which means my phone will not start killing of apps until that's met.....I could not seem to hit it just messing around.
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You are pretty spot on for the most part....but the difference here lies in the amount of ram needed to cache applications and perform extended tasks.....the reason my GSII never runs out of memory is because it has plenty for any array of tasks. While caching 8 applications I use all day...and still have anywhere from 325 to 400 megs available for any other array tasks .....I just can't see where I would need more.
As for your earlier mention of custom roms.....this becomes even less necessary ....right now a stock GS3 is using over a gig.....that's because its loaded chock full O'carrier BS on top of all samsungs layers of bloat and BS "features"....you strip all that crap out and you have a 275mb OS and more ram than you will know what to do with.
Bloat is the only thing requiring this extra ram because its running at system level which is also why Sense stuffed a dagger in the H1X.
Performance for launching is helped greatly by the processor for anything not in ram and the threshold for my phone is 64mb....which means my phone will not start killing of apps until that's met.....I could not seem to hit it just messing around.
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right on, yeah i agree it's overkill right now. I just think within the next two years, we will easily see multiple areas where having more is better than having less. I am thinking way outside the box but I am seeing visions of custom kernels that are doing some extreme caching, even running a VM type environment.....actually I am thinking of running Android and perhaps there will be an opportunity to run Windows RT or some desktop version of Linux simultaneously......something a device with even four cores and 1GB of ram would have a hard time doing.....and that's not to say it would run well on the S4 US version either, but it is certainly more suited for it
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right on, yeah i agree it's overkill right now. I just think within the next two years, we will easily see multiple areas where having more is better than having less. I am thinking way outside the box but I am seeing visions of custom kernels that are doing some extreme caching, even running a VM type environment.....actually I am thinking of running Android and perhaps there will be an opportunity to run Windows RT or some desktop version of Linux simultaneously......something a device with even four cores and 1GB of ram would have a hard time doing.....and that's not to say it would run well on the S4 US version either, but it is certainly more suited for it
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You are pretty spot on for the most part....but the difference here lies in the amount of ram needed to cache applications and perform extended tasks.....the reason my GSII never runs out of memory is because it has plenty for any array of tasks. While caching 8 applications I use all day...and still have anywhere from 325 to 400 megs available for any other array tasks .....I just can't see where I would need more.
As for your earlier mention of custom roms.....this becomes even less necessary ....right now a stock GS3 is using over a gig.....that's because its loaded chock full O'carrier BS on top of all samsungs layers of bloat and BS "features"....you strip all that crap out and you have a 275mb OS and more ram than you will know what to do with.
Bloat is the only thing requiring this extra ram because its running at system level which is also why Sense stuffed a dagger in the H1X.
Performance for launching is helped greatly by the processor for anything not in ram and the threshold for my phone is 64mb....which means my phone will not start killing of apps until that's met.....I could not seem to hit it just messing around.
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You are partially right. My sensation xl and my friends galaxy note works multitask pretty well with just 768mb and 1GB ram. But that was on Gingerbread. Once we upgraded to ICS multitasking suffers tremendously. He even blamed me for persuading him to do the update. For GB 1GB is enough. For ICS 1GB is not enough if you want the best multitasking experience.
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You are partially right. My sensation xl and my friends galaxy note works multitask pretty well with just 768mb and 1GB ram. But that was on Gingerbread. Once we upgraded to ICS multitasking suffers tremendously. He even blamed me for persuading him to do the update. For GB 1GB is enough. For ICS 1GB is not enough if you want the best multitasking experience.
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I have to blame both device and OS....I am running ICS on my GS2 and have not even seen the slightest difference.....although my battery is just slightly worse.
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For GB 1GB is enough. For ICS 1GB is not enough if you want the best multitasking experience.
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You must be running some early leeks cause some of my phones like the GS2 and the evo 3d are running ICS flawlessly.
Hi Guys
I recently got myself a NOTE 3 (Clone) from DHgate which was nice and cheap and arrived in decent time frame.
The listing said 1GB RAM
But when ever I do a test (Antutu/CPU-Z or anything else) it shows RAM at 461 - the seller is still claiming it is a 1GB RAM even after I sent him several screen shots?
I really need to know as I will claim back the difference in price if he (as I suspect) sent me a 512mb or less RAM
I do understand the ROM and a few APPS will take up some of the RAM but not like 400mb+ surely???
Thanks in advance guys:fingers-crossed:
My device take about 500-600 MB on RAM by just using the OS. With all my apps it about about 700 MB, so I do think that it might be 1GB memory on your device.
I would have thought that at least One of these tests would have shown how RAM has been used and therefore how much was left though?
All I can see is 461mb RAM with around 71mb used?
I have just tested again using "Android Assistant" app, and same results showing 461 system RAM?
In other words the tests are showing that the "System" RAM is 461mb Hence my utter confusion?
Phone is on 4.2.2 not sure if that info helps
Some of the RAM may be allocated to GPU.
Should have just gotten the real thing, you get what you pay for. I'd request my money back and find a real note 3.
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Tbh that's what you get for buying clones... you can never trust the specs they give you.
You best bet to verify it is totry uninstalling or freezing some system apps to see if the overall RAM increases.
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I actually used "Titanuim" to Freeze a sxxt load of apps, but the Ram didn't seem to get any higher after another Antutu check, or CPU-Z test?
It still says 461 free Ram and around 70 used?
Yet the seller is shouting about it being a 1GB Ram version
Its actually quick enough, but I want to be sure its a 1GB version?
And yeah I know I should have got a "real" NOTE3 but I dont have the cash hence the clone option
Essentially what I want is ANYTHING that can prove either way what Ram this device has as factory? as I said Antutu and other testers show 461 as I showed here on screen shots?
It may be impossible to say. Face it, you bought a piece of rubbish that could be anything and contains God knows what. You got what you paid for.
You get what you pay for.
yes, it is sad, but as all friends above say, you can only be certain if you get your devices at an authorized dealer or carrier, the only way to get the reañl stuff, then, any problem happens , there is always support for you, think about it
First time when I've ordered Moto X Play (XT1562) with 16 GB of internal storage, it did show 11 GB of available storage. However, due to display defect, I had to return it and get an replacement which has 10.89 GB of available storage.
I've received the replacement before sending the actual defective one. I've tried to check what's different, but I couldn't find anything else except for storage availability difference. Both were Lollipop 5.1.1 with identical kernel and firmware version (both were "reteu" and single SIM). As I didn't know about accessing recovery mode before returning the defective one, I don't know was there any difference in recovery information.
Performance seems to be identical, both were still causing identical lags. Even after upgrading to marshmallow with my current replacement, it's still stuttering while scrolling. It still doesn't feel fully optimized.
I didn't post this before as I thought that this wasn't a big deal, but I want to know what was the difference between storage availability. Does anyone have Moto X Play with 11 GB of available storage? I saw some people having 10.89 GB, but no one having 11 GB. Please check size of your available internal memory storage and give some details if possible. Along with that, vote if you have 16 GB model (If you have 32 GB, don't vote for other value).
What happened to 0.11 GB of storage? Is it anyhow possible to get it back?
Well, mine does have exactly 11GB. Dunno what's the actual reason.
I'd imagine it's the same as anything, all chips are made to a certain spec and not all are bang on. They have tolerances, some maybe 11 and others maybe 10.89 and some may even 11.10 or something. It's the same with CPUs, not all chips are identical I the same range. This is why we CPUs can be over clocked much further than another CPU that is the same model number.
If after a few days you don't see a noticeable performance difference, I'd suggest performing a factory reset. If it still persists, I would send the pone back. Mine went from noticeable lag to occasional stutter (fairly rare, just could be equated to background tasks running).
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Mine shows 11.
differences between regions? single, dual sim? just my guess
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I'd imagine it's the same as anything, all chips are made to a certain spec and not all are bang on. They have tolerances, some maybe 11 and others maybe 10.89 and some may even 11.10 or something. It's the same with CPUs, not all chips are identical I the same range. This is why we CPUs can be over clocked much further than another CPU that is the same model number.
If after a few days you don't see a noticeable performance difference, I'd suggest performing a factory reset. If it still persists, I would send the pone back. Mine went from noticeable lag to occasional stutter (fairly rare, just could be equated to background tasks running).
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It's not the same as CPUs.
If you have two same phone models with same CPUs with advertised clock speed at 1 GHz for example, and then you notice that they underclocked it at 800MHz on one phone due to possible instability with higher clock, wouldn't that be unfair?
You can't just sell something advertised with higher specifications and then sell it with lower specifications.
On contrary, if the manufacturer manages to get higher clock on some CPUs, they would sell those as different model with higher advertised clock speed. The example for that would be MSM7227 (600MHz) and MSM7227-1 Turbo (800MHz, same as MSM7227, but works with higher clocks). Some models only use the first one, while other ones use the second one. Two different phone models can have different CPUs, but two same phone models cannot.
It's still 11 and 10.89 GB. No one mentioned anything more or less yet.
You're suggesting something that I didn't ask for. I don't need help with my phone. I need help with finding out what is causing this and is there anything possible to do something with it.
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differences between regions? single, dual sim? just my guess
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I've already said there was no difference between both phones I had. Same region, both had only single sim slot.
Further note:
I've decided to check with file explorer to see actual partition sizes:
/data: 10.89 GB
/system: 2.57 GB
/cache: 0.73 GB
Total: ~14.19 GB
In case that others have 11 GB of /data, then that would be ~14.3 GB in total for them.
If you can, check /system and /cache partition sizes to see if you get in total about 14.3 GB.
Okay. I'm sorry to have responded and tried to help you out. If you think that I don't know what I'm talking about then I'd say you are obviously qualified to figure this out your self. I wasn't trying to be rude, just trying to explain that there are tolerances in ICs that are followed. They have gotten a lot better than when CPUs were first being built, I understand that. But there are still tolerances. I very rarely see two Memory ICs with the EXACT same storage size. There are sections of the disk used for error correction that we don't even see in the storage size.
If you are unhappy with my response, that's cool. I won't be responding anymore.
Take care.
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Okay. I'm sorry to have responded and tried to help you out. If you think that I don't know what I'm talking about then I'd say you are obviously qualified to figure this out your self. I wasn't trying to be rude, just trying to explain that there are tolerances in ICs that are followed. They have gotten a lot better than when CPUs were first being built, I understand that. But there are still tolerances. I very rarely see two Memory ICs with the EXACT same storage size. There are sections of the disk used for error correction that we don't even see in the storage size.
If you are unhappy with my response, that's cool. I won't be responding anymore.
Take care.
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You did make better answer now, though. I'm quite stubborn about some issues like this one. Thanks for further details about it.
Developer options allow one to limit the number of background apps that use RAM. But they allow 0-4 apps or the "standard" option.
For those of us who have the 12GB RAM version, is there a way to keep more apps in memory?
I keep having 5.6 GB RAM available and I want to use it...
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Developer options allow one to limit the number of background apps that use RAM. But they allow 0-4 apps or the "standard" option.
For those of us who have the 12GB RAM version, is there a way to keep more apps in memory?
I keep having 5.6 GB RAM available and I want to use it...
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This is a good question. I notice the same thing on my 12gb model
i was tempted by the 12gb, but having to wait two days for it to ship kept me in the 512gb model personally, never been a patient one, never will be, 8gb is already overkill for a phone anyway, heck 12gb is 4gb short of what an actual gaming PC (the kind that play actual games not bloatware) should be minimum specced to, you're not gonna need that much power on a phone and if you do you're using it for the wrong things.
i wouldn't have minded a 1tb 8gb model though, i had to severely cut down my music library for the moto z force when i originally got that.
Well I just saw 4.4 GB RAM left only. I do wonder if there is a hard limiter after which preloaded apps are killed.
Regarding the debate of an overkill, I'm old enough to remember a time when the Intel 586 CPUs were promised to have "infinite calculating capacity"
The only reason I bought this model is that the s7 model I had lasted enough (2.5 years) to become too slow.
I'm hoping this device will last longer.
In any case does anyone know what the "standard limit" of allowed process is on this model and how I can force all RAM to be made available?
stop asking shovelware developers to script-kiddie in 64 bit, there's no kind way to say it.
ystasino said:
Developer options allow one to limit the number of background apps that use RAM. But they allow 0-4 apps or the "standard" option.
For those of us who have the 12GB RAM version, is there a way to keep more apps in memory?
I keep having 5.6 GB RAM available and I want to use it...
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That option is to limit apps, not allow more.
Phone uses LMK values probably coded in kernel and its not related to option you are seeing in dev options.
Also, 6gb ram used is alot, what more do you want to keep in memory, are your apps reloading or what?
I like my browser to have many pages preloaded (640 MB) , several texting apps, email, forums, videochatting, etc. XDA app takes 248 MB. Right now apps and system are using 7.2 GB of RAM...
This really is a mobile computer for personal use and that's why I bought it. I like to have all apps and pages preloaded and use them as a reminder of what I need to stay in touch with.
Right now everything loads fine, but in the future apps will become heavier and I'm hoping that Samsung isn't limiting that.
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I like my browser to have many pages preloaded (640 MB) , several texting apps, email, forums, videochatting, etc. XDA app takes 248 MB. Right now apps and system are using 7.2 GB of RAM...
This really is a mobile computer for personal use and that's why I bought it. I like to have all apps and pages preloaded and use them as a reminder of what I need to stay in touch with.
Right now everything loads fine, but in the future apps will become heavier and I'm hoping that Samsung isn't limiting that.
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U can't know and also you can't control it anyways, we can just hope Samsung didn't set memory killer too aggressive.
Also you should turn off auto memory optimisation in device care menu as it kills apps daily.
I did the above and can report that I'm at 3.3 GB of free ram. I haven't restarted in 4 days or killed any apps.
So it's not an issue, Samsung does allow the system to use the available RAM.
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Developer options allow one to limit the number of background apps that use RAM. But they allow 0-4 apps or the "standard" option.
For those of us who have the 12GB RAM version, is there a way to keep more apps in memory?
I keep having 5.6 GB RAM available and I want to use it...
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You're not supposed to be touching that option and no, your device isn't killing your apps after 4 of them are running, you can keep as many as you want in background until you run out of memory.
So I recently bought a new s10 plus but I made a post about it already but I haven't received the phone so I didn't know anything about it, today I received the phone and checked the ram and its only 8GB is this normal or is it suppose to be like 12 or 10 GB ram? (my phone is 12 GB ram and 1 TB variant). Also, is the screen supposed to flicker a lot when it opens up the camera because mine do?
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Anything more than 6 gigs of RAM on an Android phone is nothing but a marketing gimmick. The vast majority of people don't need more than 6 gigs of RAM on a laptop--according to Microsoft the minimum RAM requirement to run Windows 10 is 1GB which is stretching it but 6GB is more than enough to provide an extremely smooth experience for anyone who isn't a power user. With that in mind what practical purpose could having 8GB or 12GB of RAM on an Android phone possibly serve?
The expanding RAM numbers were a gimmick to convince the gullible that they needed to purchase expensive new phones--these are the same kind of people who don't question why they need a higher resolution display on a phone with a 10" display than on a 55" television screen.
Now that more RAM and higher resolution are the norm the latest gimmick is smartphone displays with higher refresh rates. Most people won't actually be able to see any difference but that hardly matters if it sells phones.
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So I recently bought a new s10 plus but I made a post about it already but I haven't received the phone so I didn't know anything about it, today I received the phone and checked the ram and its only 8GB is this normal or is it suppose to be like 12 or 10 GB ram? (my phone is 12 GB ram and 1 TB variant). Also, is the screen supposed to flicker a lot when it opens up the camera because mine do?
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So you already stated you have purchased a 1TB 12GB ram s10.. and you received an 8GB ram s10? Where did you buy it from? I would bring it back since it may be the wrong one or it may be fake depending where you purchased it from.
How much did you pay for the device?
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So I recently bought a new s10 plus but I made a post about it already but I haven't received the phone so I didn't know anything about it, today I received the phone and checked the ram and its only 8GB is this normal or is it suppose to be like 12 or 10 GB ram? (my phone is 12 GB ram and 1 TB variant). Also, is the screen supposed to flicker a lot when it opens up the camera because mine do?
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It is possible the wrong product got delivered to you, If your order correctly states that your device should be a 12 GB variant, you need to do a RMA.
Just to be sure update your device, for checking your RAM, go to settings -> Device Care -> Memory. At the top it should list, there should a be a bar and just under it your used memory/total memory.
For checking storage, go to settings -> Device Care -> Storage. At the top it should list, there should a be a bar and just under it your used storage/total storage.
If either of these don't match your order, please check with the seller, you should only get what you paid for.
As for the screen flicker, it really shouldn't happen, on my device opening the camera app is a rather smooth animation.
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jhs39 said:
Anything more than 6 gigs of RAM on an Android phone is nothing but a marketing gimmick. The vast majority of people don't need more than 6 gigs of RAM on a laptop--according to Microsoft the minimum RAM requirement to run Windows 10 is 1GB which is stretching it but 6GB is more than enough to provide an extremely smooth experience for anyone who isn't a power user. With that in mind what practical purpose could having 8GB or 12GB of RAM on an Android phone possibly serve?
The expanding RAM numbers were a gimmick to convince the gullible that they needed to purchase expensive new phones--these are the same kind of people who don't question why they need a higher resolution display on a phone with a 10" display than on a 55" television screen.
Now that more RAM and higher resolution are the norm the latest gimmick is smartphone displays with higher refresh rates. Most people won't actually be able to see any difference but that hardly matters if it sells phones.
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Dude, what is your problem? OP asked for verifying the specs of his device and not a lecture on what is the appropirate amount of RAM according to you! Did you even read his question?
matt0323 said:
So you already stated you have purchased a 1TB 12GB ram s10.. and you received an 8GB ram s10? Where did you buy it from? I would bring it back since it may be the wrong one or it may be fake depending where you purchased it from.
How much did you pay for the device?
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Hi sir, I wasn't very clear , sorry.. i currently have 8.5 GB ram available with no apps opened and seller confirmed it was original although I am still afraid coz I bought it not from official shop. In us dollar it's about 800 usd but in my country it's Rm 3000.. I am not sure its suppose to have 12 GB of ram if I have no apps opened or is it normal to have 8.5 gb of ram bcoz it might eat some ram for the system to run so I opened this thread.
Android is designed to fill most of the RAM at all times. In simple terms, empty RAM is wasted RAM.
As you start using apps, Android will keep your most commonly used apps in RAM, so that they launch quickly each timeyou open them or switch between them.
seanteoh1999 said:
Hi sir, I wasn't very clear , sorry.. i currently have 8.5 GB ram available with no apps opened and seller confirmed it was original although I am still afraid coz I bought it not from official shop. In us dollar it's about 800 usd but in my country it's Rm 3000.. I am not sure its suppose to have 12 GB of ram if I have no apps opened or is it normal to have 8.5 gb of ram bcoz it might eat some ram for the system to run so I opened this thread.
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Well if you go to; Settings, Device Care, Memory. It tells you how much RAM you got..
matt0323 said:
Well if you go to; Settings, Device Care, Memory. It tells you how much RAM you got..
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oh.. yeah i got 12 gb.. Thx you very much