Warning message during Android 4.4 OTA Update process - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everybody out there using the Nexus 4
My question is basically very simple, the background is a little complicated, or at least very annoying for me. Here you go:
Is there any hint or warning screen before or during the OTA update process, which tells the user, that "installing a new system update may revert your settings to default" or something similar?
I expect, that this question might sound a little strange to you guys, but the answer is very important for me. Thanks you very much on advance for your help!
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Applying an OTA through the android system if you;re running stock will not wipe your data. If you do it manually though though ADB that's a different story.

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Applying an OTA through the android system if you;re running stock will not wipe your data. If you do it manually though though ADB that's a different story.
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I'm sorry bad_HABIT, but this doesn't answer my question. I'm not interested whether changes actually happen or can not happen, I'm only interested whether there is a warning for the user.

mrsep said:
Hello everybody out there using the Nexus 4
My question is basically very simple, the background is a little complicated, or at least very annoying for me. Here you go:
Is there any hint or warning screen before or during the OTA update process, which tells the user, that "installing a new system update may revert your settings to default" or something similar?
I expect, that this question might sound a little strange to you guys, but the answer is very important for me. Thanks you very much on advance for your help!
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No. And there is absolutely no need for one.
Installing a ota update with never reset your settings to default.

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question about 4.3 update

so before i had my nexus 4 rooted, and now i just updated to 4.3 via OTA.
do i need to do the unlock and root thing all over again from the beginning, as I did with 4.2?
BTW, where is the "thank you" button people have been talking about, there are posts i really to "thank" but i never found the "thank you" button. i might being dumb but plz do tell me.
actually i got a "fallen on the ground" Android while doing OTA. should i refer to any other upgrade method? or just choose wipe to factory reset?
Normally even with root, you can do an OTA update and it would be fine, but it seems that 4.3 has changed something and loads of people are having problems when doing OTA update while rooted. I would highly suggest doing a factory reset before updating to 4.3.
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Seems I'm in luck (except for losing root). Coming from rooted 4.2.2 I installed the OTA without errors.
My build is: JWR66V, I saw there also is another build.
Is there a problem with only one build?
god my screen has been stuck with the big X for quite a long time. guess I need to do some bootload and wipe?
omg it just keeps rebooting after every 10 minutes of use. damnit
Wipe data. This happens.
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DecypherT said:
My build is: JWR66V, I saw there also is another build.
Is there a problem with only one build?
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Well there is only one OTA build I think. The other one you saw was probably the leaked 4.3 rom.
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Nexus 4 rendered in a hapless state
List of bugs:
Quick Settings has disappeared
No/incessant notifications
Voice calls automatically disconnected
Lock screen disabled
Home button function unresponsive
Screen timeout on launching applications
Search does not open in the browser
Power Off sans any other options
Sync fails
Abrupt disruption in Network connections
The problem was solved by a factory data reset with a Google Backup.
Anyone else faced similar issues?
glancer2315 said:
omg it just keeps rebooting after every 10 minutes of use. damnit
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Yes, go to recovery and do a full wipe.

Nexus 4,4.3 update worst ever!!!(Need Help)

It's been 4 months since i bought Nexus 4 i was enjoying the 4.2 version no problems with heating issues(very minor no biggie),no performance problems neither graphic or application related issues..........however i did found out that there was Bluetooth problem in Nexus 4 devices,thought by next update it might solve that issue(bug).
Now i updated to 4.3 i received OTA and after installing it :-
The games i used to play lag ridiculously which didn't in previous 4.2,i saw drop in frame rates,the graphics were better before now the look like some 8-bit textures.....What the Hell?!?
My phone now get overheated my messaging and surfing which it didn't used to on 4.2 and it heats like anything when i am on call.....
Now it works very slow as if the update has degraded its hardware capability..... :crying:
Please provide me instructional guidance on how to rollback to my previous 4.2 version stock android(i did factory reset it didn't help,its still 4.3)
I need your HELP here!!!
You can flash 4.2.2 factory image through fastboot.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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Thibaultvw said:
You can flash 4.2.2 factory image through fastboot.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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Thanks for replying mate,you see am total noob at this android stuff,new to it totally....can u guide on how to do "fastboot"?
It will be a great help.
bludon said:
Thanks for replying mate,you see am total noob at this android stuff,new to it totally....can u guide on how to do "fastboot"?
It will be a great help.
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You can use a toolkit which does it all for you. Or you can take a look at efrant's guide on how to flash a factory image if u want to do it urself.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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Thibaultvw said:
You can use a toolkit which does it all for you. Or you can take a look at efrant's guide on how to flash a factory image if u want to do it urself.
Hit thanks if I helped.
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Okay,where can i get this toolkit?
i checked efrant's guide.....there is lot in there so i will need to look more into at it.
Thank you Thibaultvw.
is it that hard to use forum tools to search for keywords like... say... nexus 4 toolkit? come one people... it's a rule, it ain't matter you are a newbie you can always search... anyway go to nexus 4 section, then go to original android development and there you have toolkits in the first 5-6 threads. goog luck
I'd personally reflash the 4.3 factory image before going back, I've had no issues with 4.3 after a nice clean install (never used the OTA as I didn't wanna wait)
EddyOS said:
I'd personally reflash the 4.3 factory image before going back, I've had no issues with 4.3 after a nice clean install (never used the OTA as I didn't wanna wait)
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Hell broke lose after updating to 4.3 man.....i am not the only one google "Nexus 4 update 4.3 problems"......
apoalex said:
is it that hard to use forum tools to search for keywords like... say... nexus 4 toolkit? come one people... it's a rule, it ain't matter you are a newbie you can always search... anyway go to nexus 4 section, then go to original android development and there you have toolkits in the first 5-6 threads. goog luck
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Hahah...not that noob pal,i searched before asking you about the toolkits......i thought you might know website or something.
bludon said:
Hell broke lose after updating to 4.3 man.....i am not the only one google "Nexus 4 update 4.3 problems"......
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I'm not saying there are no issues, I'm just I have had none of them. Now, whether this is because I'm 100% stock I can't say...
As been told, just flash the 4.2.2 image if you wanna go back but honestly i had no problems but applications incompatibility and that's not cause of 4.3 but the applications that doesn't support it yet.
Luis_D1 said:
As been told, just flash the 4.2.2 image if you wanna go back but honestly i had no problems but applications incompatibility and that's not cause of 4.3 but the applications that doesn't support it yet.
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4.2.2 was really much better to be honest,but from what i experienced was that my N4 became very slow i mean chrome taking time to open gmail taking time to open a mail and even refresh,the games i have like Vector,Virtual Tennis Challenge i saw like graphics screwed up........maybe i agree with you maybe be they are not compatible.....
But overheating,reduced performance,its to much to take,i googled a found people unable to turn on their N4 atleast am lucky my situation wasn't upto that.
Thats weird... I installed NFS Most Wanted, Asphalt 7 and they both worked nicely... I also thought there might be some graphics issues but its fine. Maybe you like to try again? maybe there's a missing wipe or something that is causing all these problems.
bludon said:
Please provide me instructional guidance on how to rollback to my previous 4.2 version stock android(i did factory reset it didn't help,its still 4.3)
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Hmm.. gotta wonder why Google provides Android upgrades but no easy way to downgrade. Even Microsoft Windows Update Service Packs have an uninstall option to roll the changes back.
Luis_D1 said:
Thats weird... I installed NFS Most Wanted, Asphalt 7 and they both worked nicely... I also thought there might be some graphics issues but its fine. Maybe you like to try again? maybe there's a missing wipe or something that is causing all these problems.
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Did a Factory reset,still same issue....strange though i did read that 4.3 update improved performance for people but from what i could tell you that there very few like 1 or 2 people in 30 or some complaints saying 4.3 worked as charm for them.....it worked for you to,wonder what is google going to do about it
Nate2 said:
Hmm.. gotta wonder why Google provides Android upgrades but no easy way to downgrade. Even Microsoft Windows Update Service Packs have an uninstall option to roll the changes back.
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What's not easy? Download the factory image from Google and flash it the same way you would any factory image from Google. It has the easiest of all mobile phones to up/downgrade as it's a Nexus device
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Hmm.. gotta wonder why Google provides Android upgrades but no easy way to downgrade. Even Microsoft Windows Update Service Packs have an uninstall option to roll the changes back.
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That was the same thing in my mind though,but it seems Nexus 4 has no option to rollback stock,the galaxy nexus series do,some i think.
Flashing 4.2.2 stock is the only solution i think:angel:
It isnt that hard. Just find yourself a good video tutorial if you like and all good
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Hmm.. gotta wonder why Google provides Android upgrades but no easy way to downgrade. Even Microsoft Windows Update Service Packs have an uninstall option to roll the changes back.
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You get a developer targeted OS on a Developer device and want things to be easy

Possible to disable android os autoupdate?

Might be an answered question. Was just wondering if there's anyway to disable the autoupdate. I like my S4 the way it is right now and don't want any chance that it might autoupdate to android 4.3 which can mess up rooting etc even though i have rootkeeper. At least til issues with new android ver are all clear. So anyway to disable this auto os update? thnx..
Your rooted that's enough to disable I believe cus it wont update if modified. .I might be wrong
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And I have never seen my phone's auto update.
w7excursion said:
And I have never seen my phone's auto update.
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Rooted my nexus 10 and that didn't prevent it from dnlding the update. At least it has the decency not to go ahead w installing the downloaded update. Now I hv this constant notification on the status bar to install it. Don't want this to happen also to S4
4.3 is at least 1-2 months away so I doubt you need to do this. And got a blunt is mostly right. Being rooted will not allow the installation to happen. It will download the update and tell you have a system update but it won't install on its own.
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daniel4653 said:
4.3 is at least 1-2 months away so I doubt you need to do this. And got a blunt is mostly right. Being rooted will not allow the installation to happen. It will download the update and tell you have a system update but it won't install on its own.
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So any danger of me inadvertently clicking on the update notification and update happens and wiping out my settings? or rooting won't let it updated at all and to update you have to go back to stock first?
wildpig1234 said:
So any danger of me inadvertently clicking on the update notification and update happens and wiping out my settings? or rooting won't let it updated at all and to update you have to go back to stock first?
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The only way of being able to update its just having a rooted phone with no mods in someway and also having stock recovery, if you are rooted with a custom rom or mods and have a different recovery then yes if you click the update accidently then you wont have no problem what so ever its just going to abort.
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ROMANTiC KiD said:
The only way of being able to update its just having a rooted phone with no mods in someway and also having stock recovery, if you are rooted with a custom rom or mods and have a different recovery then yes if you click the update accidently then you wont have no problem what so ever its just going to abort.
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On my rooted S4 (CF-auto-root), I also have TWRP recovery installed. So this would qualify then as a different recovery? Additionally i also got MF9HotspotMod-Odexed and international SIM unlock on there. So i am guessing all this should be enough to prevent any update?
OTAs won't flash in custom recoveries. If you for some reason hit install update it would boot into recovery and try to install but fail.
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Latest OTA

Just receive message of OTA. It is a small update and file size is 3.4MB. Since I have flashed the latest TWRP that support the OTA update.
I can not see any different version change.
taitony said:
Just receive message of OTA. It is a small update and file size is 3.4MB. Since I have flashed the latest TWRP that support the OTA update.
I can not see any different version change.
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i just recieved it myself on my Android 4.4, it says "fixes bugs" which i haven't felt there was, but i guess it's not everyone that finds the bugs they fix, and maybe the performance will go up a little more, i will bench a little later, depending on how much i have to do at work
Yeah it's mostly under the hood bug fixes. There's no change log but one new 'feature' they found is that it will remind you to set up a backup account if you have multiple Google accounts on the device.
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puma99dk| said:
i just recieved it myself on my Android 4.4, it says "fixes bugs" which i haven't felt there was, but i guess it's not everyone that finds the bugs they fix, and maybe the performance will go up a little more, i will bench a little later, depending on how much i have to do at work
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Great to see your investgation what will be updated. But my Nexus 4 has no such update, so it is not for all KitKat devices.
Yeah I checked if it was also up for Nexus 4, sadly its just the N7 up for grabs, Just got the OTA notification, 3MB file.
Also there's this, new build, KRT16S
Sorry is this a jelly bean update or kit kat?
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protoism said:
Sorry is this a jelly bean update or kit kat?
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we talk about "Kitty kat"
but so far Benchmarks haven't improved to me, but it don't get as hot as with JB rom around the cam when it's in use so that's fine with me
puma99dk| said:
we talk about "Kitty kat"
but so far Benchmarks haven't improved to me, but it don't get as hot as with JB rom around the cam when it's in use so that's fine with me
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Maybe I have missed something, but are people receiving a small kitty kat bug fix OTA, even though 4.4 has not actually gone out over the air, but is just being sideloaded?
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protoism said:
Maybe I have missed something, but are people receiving a small kitty kat bug fix OTA, even though 4.4 has not actually gone out over the air, but is just being sideloaded?
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i read some has gotten OTA but not everyone, i used adb yesterday at work to "sideload" 4.4 on to my Nexus 7 2013 16gb tablet and it just is nice running smooth, no heat around my cam anymore in use.
i normally game a little and use it for Teamviewer. I brought my tablet bcs i was tired of dragging a laptop with me around, bcs i drag it to work everyday.
I basicly when at family, or friends house use my tablet for surfing, teamviewer and all what i used the laptop for it's nice
puma99dk| said:
i read some has gotten OTA but not everyone, i used adb yesterday at work to "sideload" 4.4 on to my Nexus 7 2013 16gb tablet and it just is nice running smooth, no heat around my cam anymore in use.
i normally game a little and use it for Teamviewer. I brought my tablet bcs i was tired of dragging a laptop with me around, bcs i drag it to work everyday.
I basicly when at family, or friends house use my tablet for surfing, teamviewer and all what i used the laptop for it's nice
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Nice, just in this forum only one person claims to have received 4.4 OTA. It does seem they are sending out a patch for something that is only available as a factory image that is being sideloaded. Curious.
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protoism said:
Nice, just in this forum only one person claims to have received 4.4 OTA. It does seem they are sending out a patch for something that is only available as a factory image that is being sideloaded. Curious.
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the factory image and the one that comes on OTA should be the same as far as i know.
but it was pretty easy to flash my tablet, it took a little bcs i had a problem but when i fixed that one it went smoothly and no issues at all.
anyone else's touchscreen get ridiculous after this small OTA? I never had issues, then we got that jellybean OTA to "fix" touch screen issues for certain people, which then proceeded to break my touch screen. then I got kitkat, and it's perfect again, no touch issues anymore.. now I got this OTA and this morning I had to press everything 5 times before it registered! I did a reboot and it went away, but seriously, if they broke touch again, I'm giving up on this tablet.
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Where is the update located once it is downloaded, I'm trying to install it with TWRP.
Just got it via OTA (had side loaded KitKat before that). Made me lose root but that should be easily fixed.
I had side loaded 4.4, unlocked and rooted. I got the OTA notification and there was an error installing and now I'm stuck in a bootloop. When it comes up it has dead android with red exclamation point and says "No command."
embhorn said:
I had side loaded 4.4, unlocked and rooted. I got the OTA notification and there was an error installing and now I'm stuck in a bootloop. When it comes up it has dead android with red exclamation point and says "No command."
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Same thing happened to me. I got the OTA notification but stoopidly I had SuperSU in OTA survival mode. The update failed and I ended up at the 'No Command' recovery thing you are talking about.
I was able to fix it by manually flashing the /boot, /recovery, and /system partitions (NOT /userdata ) in fastboot using the KRT16S system image that can be found here (https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#razorkrt16s). Everything was okay after that - all of my user data was intact and I was updated to KRT16S :good:
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Same thing happened to me. I got the OTA notification but stoopidly I had SuperSU in OTA survival mode. The update failed and I ended up at the 'No Command' recovery thing you are talking about.
I was able to fix it by manually flashing the /boot, /recovery, and /system partitions (NOT /userdata ) in fastboot using the KRT16S system image that can be found here (https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#razorkrt16s). Everything was okay after that - all of my user data was intact and I was updated to KRT16S :good:
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Ah well. I win the noob award. I panicked and re-flashed stock. But my saving grace is that I have a backup from not too long ago.
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Where is the update located once it is downloaded, I'm trying to install it with TWRP.
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I was on stock, unlocked, rooted with TWRP. I ran the KRT16S OTA normally. TWRP installed it. I lost root and TWRP. Easy enough fix.
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Lost root, tried reflashing the SU 1.43 binary in TWRP and still don't have root. Any advice?
nchopp said:
Lost root, tried reflashing the SU 1.43 binary in TWRP and still don't have root. Any advice?
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This: http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/
You need to do this in fastboot. The instructions are at the bottom of the page

ROM and clockwork question

hey everyone, Im a newbie when It comes to roms and flashing, I currently have clockwork mod and stock 4.4.4 and wanted to ask will I get the official lollipop? Even if I have clockwork mod? But stock KitKat? Thank you for reading
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hey everyone, Im a newbie when It comes to roms and flashing, I currently have clockwork mod and stock 4.4.4 and wanted to ask will I get the official lollipop? Even if I have clockwork mod? But stock KitKat? Thank you for reading
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as far as i know, and that can be wrong, if your android is untouched (no root or anything else (like xposes framwork)) you will get the update over the air.
BUT if you don't there are factory images that you can download and flash your phone quite easily
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/how-to-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2010312
or a toolkit to do it automatically
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/how-to-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2010312
i would recommend to do it with the first method. if something goes wrong you will know what is it and you can ask for help. with the toolkit if something goes wrong things are more complicated to find the error.
P.S. if you decide installing the factory images via console (first option), it is highly recommended to read the entire process first and after do the procedure.
My phone is rooted, but i dont have any custom ROMs or framework , will this affect it? Or when I get the update my root will simply be gone?
michalziom29 said:
My phone is rooted, but i dont have any custom ROMs or framework , will this affect it? Or when I get the update my root will simply be gone?
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You'll lose root and the custom recovery with the ota. But if you haven't modified / deleted any system files you should get the ota.
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I've searched some threads and some said you don't get ota if you have clockwork mod (I have it) and I really don't know what to do...should I go back to stock? I'm not good with that stuff and afraid I will brick it, any ideas or advice?
michalziom29 said:
I've searched some threads and some said you don't get ota if you have clockwork mod (I have it) and I really don't know what to do...should I go back to stock? I'm not good with that stuff and afraid I will brick it, any ideas or advice?
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You should be ok. If you're really worried about cwm you could flash the stock recovery image in fastboot. But I wouldn't unless the ota fails, which it shouldn't
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Thank you one more question, will I still get ota notification ? As in, it might fail but will I still receive like I would normally?
michalziom29 said:
Thank you one more question, will I still get ota notification ? As in, it might fail but will I still receive like I would normally?
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Yes, you'll get it and it will download
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Thank you, I was happy that android L is so close but then I saw people say those with clockwork won't get it, thank you for the answers and clearing it up!
michalziom29 said:
Thank you, I was happy that android L is so close but then I saw people say those with clockwork won't get it, thank you for the answers and clearing it up!
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No problem
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Do you by any chance know if android L Is releasing today? I've heard many people say Nov 3 rd for nexus devices
michalziom29 said:
Do you by any chance know if android L Is releasing today? I've heard many people say Nov 3 rd for nexus devices
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I think you'll see it in the next couple of weeks, not today. The n4 may be even longer
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Alright, thank you again for clearing things up!
It's also worth noting that Google pushes update at different times depending on which area you live in, so even if you read on the news that Lollypop is released on the Nexus 4, it may take a while for your phone to receive the OTA.
Personally, I advice you to install TWRP recovery, its safe and easy to install kernels and roms

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