[Q] Custom ROMs, Future? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

Okay! So I present you all with a question. I've read multiple threads on safestrap ROMs and id you have the MDL loader on how you can in-fact load custom ROMs.
But here's my biggest question, (I'm not sure if this should go in a dev sub-forum or here, but this seemed to make the most sense) but here it is, Is there any reason or advantage to stay on the MF3 bootloader firmware (4.2.2) which is locked to safestrap.
As in is there any progress whatsoever on the ability to install custom ROMs on this version, or any estimations or just plain and simple to not be rude, but is there remotely any way to install custom non-TW, non 4.2.2 ROMs, via safestrap on the firmware?
Or would I be better off upgrading via OTA to 4.3.3 so that I can utilize my Galaxy Gear, with retaining my root from SuperSU Pro "Survival Mode"? To be totally honest from the looks of the forums and Q+A recently most ATT users have done this exact thing.
That being said is there any sort of progress or planned progress/development towards the ability to create custom ROMs for these new MK2 bootloaders? I'm sure any ROM developer that wishes to continue to create ROMs that can be used by more than a slim picking would be on this development already but that's my questions!

Xeon.Jamal said:
Okay! So I present you all with a question. I've read multiple threads on safestrap ROMs and id you have the MDL loader on how you can in-fact load custom ROMs.
But here's my biggest question, (I'm not sure if this should go in a dev sub-forum or here, but this seemed to make the most sense) but here it is, Is there any reason or advantage to stay on the MF3 bootloader firmware (4.2.2) which is locked to safestrap.
As in is there any progress whatsoever on the ability to install custom ROMs on this version, or any estimations or just plain and simple to not be rude, but is there remotely any way to install custom non-TW, non 4.2.2 ROMs, via safestrap on the firmware?
Or would I be better off upgrading via OTA to 4.3.3 so that I can utilize my Galaxy Gear, with retaining my root from SuperSU Pro "Survival Mode"? To be totally honest from the looks of the forums and Q+A recently most ATT users have done this exact thing.
That being said is there any sort of progress or planned progress/development towards the ability to create custom ROMs for these new MK2 bootloaders? I'm sure any ROM developer that wishes to continue to create ROMs that can be used by more than a slim picking would be on this development already but that's my questions!
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Hashcode the man behind safestrap Is working on bri ging safestrap to 4.3....other than that, other people may be working on it or they may not. 99% of rom devs dont have the skill to unlock a bootloader, not saying they are bad devs but it takes a completely differnt set of dev skills to unlock a bootloader...alot more coding
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mg2195 said:
Hashcode the man behind safestrap Is working on bri ging safestrap to 4.3....other than that, other people may be working on it or they may not. 99% of rom devs dont have the skill to unlock a bootloader, not saying they are bad devs but it takes a completely differnt set of dev skills to unlock a bootloader...alot more coding
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Awesome, but there would still be no way to truly get ROMs like Dandroid or anything that has kitkat or non TW right? I know what you are saying about the devs. Its a totally different skillset. I hadn't thought of that. D'Oh! Thanks for the reply! I might upgrade to 4.3.3 so I can utilize my hear now!

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Unlocked Bootlader/ safe strap Question????

OK so I have no clue really want safestrap is really. I've only had phones that I could unlock my bootloader.
I guess my questions are is how much different is safestrap vs unlocked bootloader and did Verizon/Samsung lock this thing down to the point we can't unlock this thing.?
I just bought this phone on Verizon edge and had no knowledge about this thing being locked down.
Simple search will help.
Safe strap allows you to Flash stock ROMs and stock kernels. It is not a bootloader bypass. You cannot have recovery at this time. The chance of an actual bootloader unlock and/or recovery is slim.
We currently do have root.
If you want to do anything other than flash stock based ROMs and kernels (when SS is available, which is likely soon), then you should use a different device or get the Dev edition when it comes out.
You should do more research before putting that much money on a device down. I want the Note3 very much, but I much prefer a device with more flexibility, even if it isn't as badass.
I've had safe strap on my bionic and flashed asop ...but why would anyone on this device want asop??? ...that would not make a lot of..."touchwiz" lol.
Thanks for the reply. Yes your correct but no need to be an douche. Yes search answers questions but people who have used safestrap can sometimes provide better answers. This is the q&a section so that means you can ask questions. Anyways thanks for part of your reply.
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jprovan1 said:
Thanks for the reply. Yes your correct but no need to be an douche. Yes search answers questions but people who have used safestrap can sometimes provide better answers. This is the q&a section so that means you can ask questions. Anyways thanks for part of your reply.
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I hope that was for the jerk and not the joke.....
Was for the jerk. I liked the joke
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xdadevnube said:
Simple search will help.
Safe strap allows you to Flash stock ROMs and stock kernels. It is not a bootloader bypass. You cannot have recovery at this time. The chance of an actual bootloader unlock and/or recovery is slim.
We currently do have root.
If you want to do anything other than flash stock based ROMs and kernels (when SS is available, which is likely soon), then you should use a different device or get the Dev edition when it comes out.
You should do more research before putting that much money on a device down. I want the Note3 very much, but I much prefer a device with more flexibility, even if it isn't as badass.
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This is wrong. Safestrap is a bootstrap recovery. It IS a "bootloader bypass" of sorts. Once everything is squared away, safestrap WILL allow flashing of non-stock ROMs and the execution of Kexec kernels. We will have access to almost everything available with an unlocked bootloader, except it will require room on our internal storage for the ROM files.
Banggugyangu said:
This is wrong. Safestrap is a bootstrap recovery. It IS a "bootloader bypass" of sorts. Once everything is squared away, safestrap WILL allow flashing of non-stock ROMs and the execution of Kexec kernels. We will have access to almost everything available with an unlocked bootloader, except it will require room on our internal storage for the ROM files.
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AFAIK, it will not allow kexec, as that is a different exploit. Also, it cannot modify aboot. So you will not be able to install AOSP ROMs or anything but a modified stock kernel. Believe me, I would love to be wrong.
xdadevnube said:
AFAIK, it will not allow kexec, as that is a different exploit. Also, it cannot modify aboot. So you will not be able to install AOSP ROMs or anything but a modified stock kernel. Believe me, I would love to be wrong.
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Hashcode has implemented kexec into nearly every device's safestrap. Also, AOSP is still possible with the stock kernel. You simply have to incorporate certain parts of the stock ROM. I did all of this on the Droid Bionic. I had an AOSP ROM before safestrap was even created. It had a couple Blur elements that were very minor, but required.
Do we loose safestrap if we take OTA upgrade to Kitkat (when it's available)?
Banggugyangu said:
Hashcode has implemented kexec into nearly every device's safestrap. Also, AOSP is still possible with the stock kernel. You simply have to incorporate certain parts of the stock ROM. I did all of this on the Droid Bionic. I had an AOSP ROM before safestrap was even created. It had a couple Blur elements that were very minor, but required.
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I was thinking of the S4 that doesn't have kexec and cannot flash AOSP. It is reasonable to assume that the N3 could get kexec even although the S4 doesn't have it.
SS is not bootloader bypass. Many benefits of an unlocked bootloader will not be realized with SS. However, it should be a decent option for at least getting some ROMs. With kexec, then most people will be happy.
xdadevnube said:
I was thinking of the S4 that doesn't have kexec and cannot flash AOSP. It is reasonable to assume that the N3 could get kexec even although the S4 doesn't have it.
SS is not bootloader bypass. Many benefits of an unlocked bootloader will not be realized with SS. However, it should be a decent option for at least getting some ROMs. With kexec, then most people will be happy.
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There is a huge difference when Hashcode has the phone in question. It's my understanding that this is the first Samsung phone he has had.
So he's stated that he plans to add kexec? That would be [email protected]$$.
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Why no Clean loki flashable official 4.3 ROMs?

I still have a MDL bootloader and have been running clean GE ROMs since they came out. I really want to try out AT&T's latest MK2 4.3 official ROM, but it seems no one has just released a clean flashable in CWM rom like I have seen in past releases.
Is it because most people have to use Safestrap now with the newer bootloaders and have no use for flashable MK2 ROMs anymore?
I don't want to upgrade my bootloader by just putting on MK2 the normal way, I want to keep the ability to flash ROMS, but really want to try out a stock MK2 so I can try out the Samsung stuff again.
Sure there are a ton of MK2 ROMs in the forums here, but they are heavily modded with stuff I really don't want. I just want a clean ROM without anyone's MODs except for the usual of removal of the protections that would prevent me from reflashing a different ROM in the future.
Can anyone please point me in the right direction?
chocodough said:
I still have a MDL bootloader and have been running clean GE ROMs since they came out. I really want to try out AT&T's latest MK2 4.3 official ROM, but it seems no one has just released a clean flashable in CWM rom like I have seen in past releases.
Is it because most people have to use Safestrap now with the newer bootloaders and have no use for flashable MK2 ROMs anymore?
I don't want to upgrade my bootloader by just putting on MK2 the normal way, I want to keep the ability to flash ROMS, but really want to try out a stock MK2 so I can try out the Samsung stuff again.
Sure there are a ton of MK2 ROMs in the forums here, but they are heavily modded with stuff I really don't want. I just want a clean ROM without anyone's MODs except for the usual of removal of the protections that would prevent me from reflashing a different ROM in the future.
Can anyone please point me in the right direction?
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It's mostly because we already got a root method, so nobody's seen a purpose in putting together a flashable one to experiment on. I'm sure it can be done using the same method which the MF3 stock ROM was made, but someone just has to be willing to flash back to completely stock and run some terminal commands.
EDIT: Found a system dump, just nobody has compiled it into a flashable zip. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47943805&postcount=760
Maybe someone could look at it.
EDIT2: StockUp has a rebloat addon if you want AT&T apps, and comes with all the normal Samsung things. It's probably your best bet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498244
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It's mostly because we already got a root method, so nobody's seen a purpose in putting together a flashable one to experiment on. I'm sure it can be done using the same method which the MF3 stock ROM was made, but someone just has to be willing to flash back to completely stock and run some terminal commands.
EDIT: Found a system dump, just nobody has compiled it into a flashable zip. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47943805&postcount=760
Maybe someone could look at it.
EDIT2: StockUp has a rebloat addon if you want AT&T apps, and comes with all the normal Samsung things. It's probably your best bet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498244
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Hopefully a DEV has their original laying around somewhere.
Of course I would prefer to have the KNOX stuff removed. I'm not sure what files to remove to do it myself.
I've seen some ROMs similar to what I am looking for in the Tmobile section here, but they still have stuff like modded or replaced kernels and of course all the Tmobile stuff in them. Would be nice to have the actual AT&T version without KNOX.
Hopefully that wouldn't be asking too much.
DeadlySin9 said:
It's mostly because we already got a root method, so nobody's seen a purpose in putting together a flashable one to experiment on. I'm sure it can be done using the same method which the MF3 stock ROM was made, but someone just has to be willing to flash back to completely stock and run some terminal commands.
EDIT: Found a system dump, just nobody has compiled it into a flashable zip. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47943805&postcount=760
Maybe someone could look at it.
EDIT2: StockUp has a rebloat addon if you want AT&T apps, and comes with all the normal Samsung things. It's probably your best bet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498244
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Ok thanks, I'll look into that.
chocodough said:
Hopefully a DEV has their original laying around somewhere.
Of course I would prefer to have the KNOX stuff removed. I'm not sure what files to remove to do it myself.
I've seen some ROMs similar to what I am looking for in the Tmobile section here, but they still have stuff like modded or replaced kernels and of course all the Tmobile stuff in them. Would be nice to have the actual AT&T version without KNOX.
Hopefully that wouldn't be asking too much.
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StockUp has KNOX removed and is based off the AT&T version, and like i said has that rebloat zip with AT&T apps. All you have to do from there is get a 4.3 kernel
This one? have you read it?
MF3 system and boot images, no bootloader so you are safe. Need custom kernels, due to mf3 rom expecting mf3 bootloader and kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378946
Personal suggestion, don't try the MF3 and stay with GE, update it to 4.3 or 4.4 if you want, because you won't be losing anything going touchwiz and instead will be adding a ton of crap. Even after debloating you will still end up with a ton of crap.
ps. lovely edit system the forum has...
chocodough said:
I still have a MDL bootloader and have been running clean GE ROMs since they came out. I really want to try out AT&T's latest MK2 4.3 official ROM, but it seems no one has just released a clean flashable in CWM rom like I have seen in past releases.
Is it because most people have to use Safestrap now with the newer bootloaders and have no use for flashable MK2 ROMs anymore?
I don't want to upgrade my bootloader by just putting on MK2 the normal way, I want to keep the ability to flash ROMS, but really want to try out a stock MK2 so I can try out the Samsung stuff again.
Sure there are a ton of MK2 ROMs in the forums here, but they are heavily modded with stuff I really don't want. I just want a clean ROM without anyone's MODs except for the usual of removal of the protections that would prevent me from reflashing a different ROM in the future.
Can anyone please point me in the right direction?
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Upgrade bootloader? It seems like a downgrade if it restricts what you can flash. Have you tried the international roms? Sure it won't have the at&t stuff which most people don't want but it'll have the samsung stuff you seem to want. Make sure to flash lokidoki after installing international rom or install an at&t kernal.
gb.sn said:
This one? have you read it?
MF3 system and boot images, no bootloader so you are safe. Need custom kernels, due to mf3 rom expecting mf3 bootloader and kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378946
Personal suggestion, don't try the MF3 and stay with GE, update it to 4.3 or 4.4 if you want, because you won't be losing anything going touchwiz and instead will be adding a ton of crap. Even after debloating you will still end up with a ton of crap.
ps. lovely edit system the forum has...
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He was looking for MK2, not MF3.
crash822 said:
Upgrade bootloader? It seems like a downgrade if it restricts what you can flash. Have you tried the international roms? Sure it won't have the at&t stuff which most people don't want but it'll have the samsung stuff you seem to want. Make sure to flash lokidoki after installing international rom or install an at&t kernal.
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He said he doesn't want to upgrade bootloader, that's why he's looking for a loki 4.3 stock.

Flash ROM & some crazy nintendo graphics

Hi guys, I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on a few things for me.
I have an ATT SGH i-337 MK2 with SafeStrap 3.71
Today I tried to flash PAC ROM and Dirty Unicorn into ROM Slot-1, and upon reboot when the ROM's logo should appear the whole screen just looked like when a nintendo cartridge isn't working. It was just a few crazy colors with some blocks and lines here and there.
Then I tried AOKP with it's Loki'd Kernel being part of the ROM. The nintendo screen came back again, but then the AOKP logo popped up clear as day for a second. Then went back to the lines and colors.
So could this be a problem with Safestrap compatibility? If so, how can I uninstall it? (I did read the dev's thread, and it just says use .APK and IDK what that means)
Or could it be that I also need to use Loki Doki with the other two? (Didn't see anything about that in PAC or DU threads)
Thanks!
Same issues apon using The Samsung Galaxy S4 for Verizon (jfltevzw) Build MK2 rooted using vRoot (English) and using safestrap. if needed I can upload the safestrap apk or version. If I install any type of AOSP ROM the boot logo is either missng or baby blue with wierd static lines. AOKP is the only AOSP ROM that eventually boots (with static boot logo) but no wireless works, and this is the same wether MK2 and/or MJ7 modules are installed or not. the only rom I can successfuly install and use daily that has no bootloader based issues is Hyperdrive ROM For jfltevzw & jflteatt. Any info would be much apreciated!
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^ Interesting. I didn't expect anyone else to have this issue. I never read about it before. I really feel like it has something to do with SafeStrap.
Heath Cliff said:
Hi guys, I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on a few things for me.
I have an ATT SGH i-337 MK2 with SafeStrap 3.71
Today I tried to flash PAC ROM and Dirty Unicorn into ROM Slot-1, and upon reboot when the ROM's logo should appear the whole screen just looked like when a nintendo cartridge isn't working. It was just a few crazy colors with some blocks and lines here and there.
Then I tried AOKP with it's Loki'd Kernel being part of the ROM. The nintendo screen came back again, but then the AOKP logo popped up clear as day for a second. Then went back to the lines and colors.
So could this be a problem with Safestrap compatibility? If so, how can I uninstall it? (I did read the dev's thread, and it just says use .APK and IDK what that means)
Or could it be that I also need to use Loki Doki with the other two? (Didn't see anything about that in PAC or DU threads)
Thanks!
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If you would have read 1st, then you would know that you can NOT flash any non TW rom on MK2. This is stated over & over on XDA. Safestrap is NOT the problem it is a Godsend from Hashcode for us to be able to flash custom roms onto our locked boot loader devices. Please read before flashing, bricking & then bashing the developers. Follow the directions posted on how to restore your phone, or better yet make a trip to Best Buy & they'll do it for you. Good Luck.
REEEEEEAAAAADDDD!!!!
It's been very well documented that AOSP does not work with safestrap. Neither does loki. There currently is no way/fix to flash AOSP.
So
1. No AOSP or GPE
2. No loki
3. No flashing custom kernels
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John The Rhino said:
If you would have read 1st, then you would know that you can NOT flash any non TW rom on MK2. This is stated over & over on XDA. Safestrap is NOT the problem it is a Godsend from Hashcode for us to be able to flash custom roms onto our locked boot loader devices. Please read before flashing, bricking & then bashing the developers. Follow the directions posted on how to restore your phone, or better yet make a trip to Best Buy & they'll do it for you. Good Luck.
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I did read first. I've been reading this forum for quite a while actually. But there is so much information it's hard to keep it all straight. This ATT stuff is a lot different then my VZW Razr was. That phone was just flash and forget. There are so many different ROM's for this phone now that are 4.3 or KitKat I guess I just didn't realize that, that Android version came with the ROM and was originally something more mod-able stock.
Any way I wasn't bashing SS or Hashcode. I clearly said "compatibility issue" i.e. some programs just don't play well together hence the existence of compatibility mode, virtual machines, and x86 processors. So maybe you should read before bashing novice community members and making yourself look like a big asshole.
And I don't need best buy to fix anything I have a NANDroid, backup on Kies3, and Google+. Besides, I did all of this flashing I on a separate partition so the stock ROM was never altered. Thanks for absolutely nothing at all.
For anyone else that feels like they can move on with me, I would really like to try to install TWRP in place of SS. I'd appreciate any help with how to go about doing that. TIA
Heath Cliff said:
I did read first. I've been reading this forum for quite a while actually. But there is so much information it's hard to keep it all straight. This ATT stuff is a lot different then my VZW Razr was. That phone was just flash and forget. There are so many different ROM's for this phone now that are 4.3 or KitKat I guess I just didn't realize that, that Android version came with the ROM and was originally something more mod-able stock.
Any way I wasn't bashing SS or Hashcode. I clearly said "compatibility issue" i.e. some programs just don't play well together hence the existence of compatibility mode, virtual machines, and x86 processors. So maybe you should read before bashing novice community members and making yourself look like a big asshole.
And I don't need best buy to fix anything I have a NANDroid, backup on Kies3, and Google+. Besides, I did all of this flashing I on a separate partition so the stock ROM was never altered. Thanks for absolutely nothing at all.
For anyone else that feels like they can move on with me, I would really like to try to install TWRP in place of SS. I'd appreciate any help with how to go about doing that. TIA
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Well stating Safestrap may have a compatibility issue is offensive to the developer, especially since you did not read the instructions or posts from other members who did as you. If you would follow the directions it's perfect. I have 4 different roms on my phone + stock to choose from! How cool is that? I understand the overwhelming urge to flash a rom, as I too have been flashing on my Skyrocket since the factory warranty expired last year, and flashing roms is a breeze on that device. However, this S4 is more complicated since the introduction of the KNOX & the LOCKED boot loader. These phones are expensive so unless you really want a $700.00 brick, read, read some more, then read it all again. Safestrap uses TWRP to flash the roms, but TWRP alone is not compatible with MK2 nor is CWM. If you want to flash roms on your ATT MK2 S4 Safestrap is the only way to do that at this writing.
John The Rhino said:
Well stating Safestrap may have a compatibility issue is offensive to the developer, especially since you did not read the instructions or posts from other members who did as you. If you would follow the directions it's perfect. I have 4 different roms on my phone + stock to choose from! How cool is that? I understand the overwhelming urge to flash a rom, as I too have been flashing on my Skyrocket since the factory warranty expired last year, and flashing roms is a breeze on that device. However, this S4 is more complicated since the introduction of the KNOX & the LOCKED boot loader. These phones are expensive so unless you really want a $700.00 brick, read, read some more, then read it all again. Safestrap uses TWRP to flash the roms, but TWRP alone is not compatible with MK2 nor is CWM. If you want to flash roms on your ATT MK2 S4 Safestrap is the only way to do that at this writing.
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Okay, well thank you for that. I just see so many ATT S4's in here with other ROMs and Recoverys I thought I could get something to happen. Anyway, sorry for the poor thread and response. I appreciate the plain blunt fact that SS and the ROMs that work with it are my choices for now. And don't worry about me. The worst that I'd probably get is a soft brick and I've recovered from that before Thanks again
Heath Cliff said:
Okay, well thank you for that. I just see so many ATT S4's in here with other ROMs and Recoverys I thought I could get something to happen. Anyway, sorry for the poor thread and response. I appreciate the plain blunt fact that SS and the ROMs that work with it are my choices for now. And don't worry about me. The worst that I'd probably get is a soft brick and I've recovered from that before Thanks again
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Hey man I totally understand. It's hard to watch all these other roms pop up for the original S4 & we can't flash them. But we no longer have to suffer with only the stock rom option since Hashcode's brilliant Safestrap was released. Once you get use to it, the ability of being able to multi-boot roms really kind of makes up for the locked boot loader. Soon though, we will have 4.4 Kit Kat & then we can start this process of getting off the stock rom all over again. Right? It could be worse, we could have I-phones. We do have a ever growing number of great custom TW based roms available to us here for our device. So try them, you'll be surprised how much better your phone performs. Glad I made sense & forgive my bluntness that's just how us Rhinos roll.

[Q] Please Help!

So I just rooted my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with Kingo. All I have installed so far is SuperSu Pro and Titanium backup. Im on android 4.3 and I have the MJE version. (which seems to be the most uncommon because I cant find any help anywhere, so im posting this thread). All I want to know is how or if I even can get the CyanogenMod rom on my phone. This is my first android device ever and I've had it for 5 months and Im definitely never going back to Apple devices. Anyway, I just rooted, I dont care about tripping Knox because I dont have a warranty anyways. I just need someone to explain to me how to get all the things I need including CM. From what ive read I need CWM and GAPPS.
khampton_03 said:
So I just rooted my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with Kingo. All I have installed so far is SuperSu Pro and Titanium backup. Im on android 4.3 and I have the MJE version. (which seems to be the most uncommon because I cant find any help anywhere, so im posting this thread). All I want to know is how or if I even can get the CyanogenMod rom on my phone. This is my first android device ever and I've had it for 5 months and Im definitely never going back to Apple devices. Anyway, I just rooted, I dont care about tripping Knox because I dont have a warranty anyways. I just need someone to explain to me how to get all the things I need including CM. From what ive read I need CWM and GAPPS.
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Slow down there. Lol. Do you have a developer edition Note 3 or just a regular retail Note 3 you purchased from Verizon?
Adam Browning said:
Slow down there. Lol. Do you have a developer edition Note 3 or just a regular retail Note 3 you purchased from Verizon?
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Lol sorry Im very new to android. I got it from Verizon but i enabled Developer mode if thats what youre asking haha.
khampton_03 said:
Lol sorry Im very new to android. I got it from Verizon but i enabled Developer mode if thats what youre asking haha.
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It's all good lol. No, developer mode just gives you some extra features if you want to debug your device. A developer edition Note 3 is a phone that was available directly from Samsung in a small quantity. It had the bootloader unlocked, which is a must for a AOSP ROM such as Cyanogenmod. Cyanogenmod requires a custom kernal, which a retail Note 3 (that you purchase through Verizon or another retail store) can not flash due to the locked bootloader. I would suggest peeking over in the Android Development section to check out the ROMs you are able to flash. Just steer clear of the ones saying for the developer edition or DE (for short). If you're wanting a ROM that has an AOSP feel to it though, check out Eclipse.
Here is a link for the Eclipse thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620723
Adam Browning said:
It's all good lol. No, developer mode just gives you some extra features if you want to debug your device. A developer edition Note 3 is a phone that was available directly from Samsung in a small quantity. It had the bootloader unlocked, which is a must for a AOSP ROM such as Cyanogenmod. Cyanogenmod requires a custom kernal, which a retail Note 3 (that you purchase through Verizon or another retail store) can not flash due to the locked bootloader. I would suggest peeking over in the Android Development section to check out the ROMs you are able to flash. Just steer clear of the ones saying for the developer edition or DE (for short). If you're wanting a ROM that has an AOSP feel to it though, check out Eclipse.
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So could I somehow unlock the bootloader??
khampton_03 said:
So could I somehow unlock the bootloader??
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Many people have looked into that, and no luck so far. It is still locked for devices such as ours. Kind of sucks, I know. Almost every Android phone I've owned, I have ran Cyanogenmod on it. With Verizon being difficult about locking the bootloaders, and Samsung introducing Knox, I don't think we will see a bootloader unlock anytime soon, if ever. With the new 4.4.2 leak that BeansTown106 has made available for us here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
Kernal modules are enabled, so we may have a workaround in the near future for the locked bootloader. I would suggest not taking the OTA for 4.4.2, but instead flashing the leaked 4.4.2 that is available via that thread. Once you take the OTA, it isn't known if you'll ever be able to flash this leak, which may allow for a modified kernal and therefore AOSP ROMs. I may be mistaken in some of the details, and someone can correct me if I have said something wrong in this, but this thread will explain it a little better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
Adam Browning said:
Many people have looked into that, and no luck so far. It is still locked for devices such as ours. Kind of sucks, I know. Almost every Android phone I've owned, I have ran Cyanogenmod on it. With Verizon being difficult about locking the bootloaders, and Samsung introducing Knox, I don't think we will see a bootloader unlock anytime soon, if ever. With the new 4.4.2 leak that BeansTown106 has made available for us here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
Kernal modules are enabled, so we may have a workaround in the near future for the locked bootloader. I would suggest not taking the OTA for 4.4.2, but instead flashing the leaked 4.4.2 that is available via that thread. Once you take the OTA, it isn't known if you'll ever be able to flash this leak, which may allow for a modified kernal and therefore AOSP ROMs. I may be mistaken in some of the details, and someone can correct me if I have said something wrong in this, but this thread will explain it a little better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
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So back to the beginning haha how do I flash a rom or what should I do since I just rooted and only have supersu haha
khampton_03 said:
So back to the beginning haha how do I flash a rom or what should I do since I just rooted and only have supersu haha
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It all depends on what you want to do. How knowledgeable are you with rooting, Odin, and flashing in general?
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It all depends on what you want to do. How knowledgeable are you with rooting, Odin, and flashing in general?
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Ive never flashed anything and I dont know how to use odin. Lol
khampton_03 said:
Ive never flashed anything and I dont know how to use odin. Lol
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Lol. Oh goody. Well you're in for a lot of reading then. If you're already rooted and have supersu installed, then at least you have that part out of the way. The way that we install custom ROMs onto our phones (since the bootloader is locked) is by using Safestrap, developed by Hashcode. You can find any and all information you will need on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Safestrap gives you the ability to have multiple custom ROMs on your phone, without having to flash directly over your stock ROM (if you don't want). It is an application that you download onto your phone, you then open it up and install custom recovery. Once that is completed, you will then see a Safestrap screen everytime you turn on or restart your phone. I would suggest reading through or at least skimming the thread via the link provided above.
Once you have created a ROM slot and have it selected as the active slot, you can then proceed to install a custom ROM into that slot. Once you have everything set up, you can then switch between the custom ROM in "Slot x" to the stock ROM slot, giving you a cushion in case you completely screw up.
You're going to have to decide whether or not you want to stay on the 4.3 base, or update to the 4.4.2 base leak. The only advantages of either one are strictly your personal preference. There are a few that prefer the 4.4.2 base over the 4.3 base due to one reason or another. If you want to update the the newest 4.4.2 base leak though, follow the instructions provided via this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
Adam Browning said:
Lol. Oh goody. Well you're in for a lot of reading then. If you're already rooted and have supersu installed, then at least you have that part out of the way. The way that we install custom ROMs onto our phones (since the bootloader is locked) is by using Safestrap, developed by Hashcode. You can find any and all information you will need on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Safestrap gives you the ability to have multiple custom ROMs on your phone, without having to flash directly over your stock ROM (if you don't want). It is an application that you download onto your phone, you then open it up and install custom recovery. Once that is completed, you will then see a Safestrap screen everytime you turn on or restart your phone. I would suggest reading through or at least skimming the thread via the link provided above.
Once you have created a ROM slot and have it selected as the active slot, you can then proceed to install a custom ROM into that slot. Once you have everything set up, you can then switch between the custom ROM in "Slot x" to the stock ROM slot, giving you a cushion in case you completely screw up.
You're going to have to decide whether or not you want to stay on the 4.3 base, or update to the 4.4.2 base leak. The only advantages of either one are strictly your personal preference. There are a few that prefer the 4.4.2 base over the 4.3 base due to one reason or another. If you want to update the the newest 4.4.2 base leak though, follow the instructions provided via this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
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So I am going to install Kitkat by watching the video on the thread. He said something about making sure the "MD5's match". What does that mean?
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So I am going to install Kitkat by watching the video on the thread. He said something about making sure the "MD5's match". What does that mean?
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That, you don't really have to worry about honestly. I never check, though it may be good practice to. Just follow along with the video in the thread and you will be good to go. Just remember that after you install 4.4.2, you cannot flash 4.3 based ROMs. Also, there is a bug in Safestrap right now that renders the ROM slots somewhat useless, though you can attempt to use them at your own risk. If you want to flash one of the 4.4.2 based ROMs afterwards, it is suggested to back up the stock ROM, and flash the custom ROM in the stock ROM slot. All I can say is, goodluck. Lol. It is a fun process, though somewhat difficult at times. If you have anymore questions after the fact, just reply here. I'll help out as much as I can. It always puts a smile on my face to help convert an Apple fanboy/girl over to Android.

[Q] Trying to ROM a AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4

Is there any way to unlock the bootloader on a Samsung-SGH-I727 from AT&T? I'm trying to flash this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341794
Thanks for your help
Assume you mean SGH-i337 s4
If your build version is above MDL which I would assume it is you can't flash aosp roms. Just Touch Wiz roms with Touch Wiz kernel. No custom recoveries/ kernels etc.
Your bootloader is locked and no way to bypass Sammy security check when rebooting. You will need to use SafeStrap to flash roms.
Look in General section for thread "[Index] All Things ATT MK2" and Hashcodes thread in Dev Section on SafeStrap. Read up good on the two threads--:good:
rugmankc said:
Assume you mean SGH-i337 s4
If your build version is above MDL which I would assume it is you can't flash aosp roms. Just Touch Wiz roms with Touch Wiz kernel. No custom recoveries/ kernels etc.
Your bootloader is locked and no way to bypass Sammy security check when rebooting. You will need to use SafeStrap to flash roms.
Look in General section for thread "[Index] All Things ATT MK2" and Hashcodes thread in Dev Section on SafeStrap. Read up good on the two threads--:good:
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its still on stock 4.2.2. If i use safestrap I can flash only Touch Wiz ROMs? I was talking to a guy on Craigslist who said he can unlock the bootloader for $30. He says its really hard but possible. Does he know what he's talking about? Sorry I'm such a noob.
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its still on stock 4.2.2. If i use safestrap I can flash only Touch Wiz ROMs? I was talking to a guy on Craigslist who said he can unlock the bootloader for $30. He says its really hard but possible. Does he know what he's talking about? Sorry I'm such a noob.
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He doesn't know what he's talking about.
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reconforce said:
its still on stock 4.2.2. If i use safestrap I can flash only Touch Wiz ROMs? I was talking to a guy on Craigslist who said he can unlock the bootloader for $30. He says its really hard but possible. Does he know what he's talking about? Sorry I'm such a noob.
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I don't follow the the numbers like 4.2.2 is that MF3 or MDL build?
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I don't follow the the numbers like 4.2.2 is that MF3 or MDL build?
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Is there a place in the settings I can look? The phone is totally stock 4.2.2 from AT&T. I only rooted it with towelroot.
I really want a phone that's stock. If i can't get a stock like ROM on this phone I'm gunna sell it. What would you recommend? I'm looking for a $300 ish phone with a SD card or lots of internal space (I need to store stuff). Is there a Nexus like phone with an SD card? I would buy a One Plus One 64GB but i can't get an invite.
you are on mf3 build.
you will need to update to flash newer build roms but not aosp roms. there are a couple GE roms with, I believe, TW kernels to flash. but have some issues last time i checked.
i don't have the links to get from mf3 to nb1/nc1 atm
lots of new phones are out not sure which ones have sdcards on google phones
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I didn't here good things about their Customer Support
But, have tried here--
http://oneplus.net/support/topic/invites
here's an aosp safestrap rom that seems to be working fairly well. you will to update to nc1, i believe. will need to do some research on it and look at links i posted before--:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/development/rom-google-edition-s4-t2837239
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here's an aosp safestrap rom that seems to be working fairly well. you will to update to nc1, i believe. will need to do some research on it and look at links i posted before--:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/development/rom-google-edition-s4-t2837239
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What does updating mf3 to nb1/nc1 mean? Do just install the latest software update? I'm really confused.
I am not in your situation so no hands on exp. I think you Odin NB1 to start. It will take a lot of reading in the two threads I mentioned in post two. NC1 is the latest build from att.
I always read the threads OP page several times and the last 30 pages or so of the thread when trying to learn a new rom.
Depending on your exp level it can take time so as not to get in trouble. I don't recommend going to fast in rooting and flashing, but learning why you are doing the steps and not just doing them.
Someone will help with more exp at doing what you need to do. I think you will odin NB1 and then take NC1 update then root and install SafeStrap.
See this thread and post 5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
But just don't do it, read the thread like suggested and the SafeStrap thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448925
WE can answer more questions as you progress. Make whatecer backups you can along the way and keep a copy on pc also.
There are three safe-strap roms in development that are not touchwhiz that you can flash.
rugmankc said:
I am not in your situation so no hands on exp. I think you Odin NB1 to start. It will take a lot of reading in the two threads I mentioned in post two. NC1 is the latest build from att.
I always read the threads OP page several times and the last 30 pages or so of the thread when trying to learn a new rom.
Depending on your exp level it can take time so as not to get in trouble. I don't recommend going to fast in rooting and flashing, but learning why you are doing the steps and not just doing them.
Someone will help with more exp at doing what you need to do. I think you will odin NB1 and then take NC1 update then root and install SafeStrap.
See this thread and post 5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
But just don't do it, read the thread like suggested and the SafeStrap thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448925
WE can answer more questions as you progress. Make whatecer backups you can along the way and keep a copy on pc also.
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If I used safestrap it would have the stock Samsung android 4.2.2 and one of the three safestap ROMs? so that'd use twice the space?
I'm gunna buy a different phone. does anymore know of a phone that has an unlocked bootloader with specs close to the s4 and have a SD card slot?
I would go with HTC One.
Sent from my AT&T Galaxy S4
reconforce said:
If I used safestrap it would have the stock Samsung android 4.2.2 and one of the three safestap ROMs? so that'd use twice the space?
I'm gunna buy a different phone. does anymore know of a phone that has an unlocked bootloader with specs close to the s4 and have a SD card slot?
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