Bluetooth GPS without mock location on 4.4 - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I have one problem :
I break a little pin on my nexus4 what used for connect back cover to the phone, and without this I cant use internal GPS ....
I tryed to fix it , but everybody say its impossible..
I have an old Fortuna Clip-ON bluetooth GPS reciver, and try to use it wit my nexus 4 with 4.4 and 3 different blutooth gps app,
But all of them ask me to allow Mock locations ...
so if I allow this, i cant use Ingress but i'm an active lvl 8 player ...
I tryed to put he app apk in system/app folder, but he ask for mock location too...
Somebody have an idea how can I use my bluetooth Gps receiver on android 4.4 without mock location ? (NO I don't want to fake location in ingress... just use an external gps)

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Help, no GPS!

Having updated the ROM via HTC's website ( version 1.23.405.103 ) on my P3600 and installing Trinityhacks, I still cannot get the GPS icon to appear ( let alone the GPS itself) in the SETTINGS;SYSTEM menu, it only began to appear in the CONNECTIONS menu after i installed Trinityhacks.
I have 2 GPS programs (one of which is TOMTOM) which are installed and working perfectly, the only problem is that the GPS is not, and i can't figure out why! Please help,
Thanks
You don't need the GPS Setting CPL unless you want to change the default settings, which for most apps shouldn't be necessary.
Make sure in TomTom, you set the GPS prefs to Built-IN GPS Receiver (if you are on V6.03) or Other NMEA Receiver (NOT Other NMEA Bluetooth Receiver) if you use any earlier version.
COM port must be set to COM9 and Baud to 57600.
Once those are set, the GPS screen within TomTom should show a small revolving icon in the upper right part of the screen. Within about 30 seconds, the main screen should change from No GPS Device, to Waiting for a valid Signal. At that point you need to go outside with a clear view of the sky for a 1st fix.
If you continue to get the No GPS Device message, it suggests either the ROM didn't update properly, or there is a hardware fault.
Thank you for your help, It now all works after a hard reset, and have been playing with the GPS ever since. Great fun.
The icon is no problem and it not being there wont affect you much,
If you do want it, the easiest way to display it without modifying the resistry is to install an tweaking application like ' Trinity Hacks v2'. this is an excellant wee application that lets you easily make all kinds of settign adjustments without going into the registry.
If you do a search on the trinity forums its easy to find.
Good Luck!!

Can I use my HTC HD2 as a external GPS?

hello
Does anyone know how can i use my HTC T8585 as a external GPS ?
thanks a lot
Just open compass app.
This gives you a digital compass and (as long as GPS is switch on) your lat/long reading.
malex1 said:
....as long as GPS is switch on....
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But how, if I'm not using Google Maps and Internet?
Compass has no button for GPS switch on/off.
eshd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633114
Sorry, I assumed you had apps on your phone.
I use GPS Dashboard, a free app that gives all info you could want.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gps-dashboard.html
Use Franson GPS Gate
You can use Franson GPS gate and in the settings after it finds your GPS and you hit Yes for Com 4. You have 4 options displayed with check boxes. Make sure you check Share with Active Sync. and connect your HD2 via cable or Bluetooth and see that the active sync is running. Then run GPS mapping app from your laptop and let it search and find it out automatically, otherwise you might need manual input.
I have used it on many long trips in the USA.
Thanks,
Raj

GPS selection on HD2

HD2 has built in GPS antenna which is great to use in most cases, but not in every case. Some time, while in the car for example, I would rather use external bluetooth GPS device. I know this is possible to use external GPS antenna and even set it up on my device for TomTom . However it was not a one click solution, plus, I do not remember exactly what I have done and how to reverse it... As a result, my TomTom only works with external BT GPS antenna (can't make it to use internal one) and NaviComputer uses internal GPS antenna (can't make it to use external one).
What I am looking for is an easy selector for GPS device. It would have several options:
1. Internal GPS
2. External BT GPS 1
3. External BT GPS 2
4. ... if needed
and more if needed. User could with one click of the button tell WM device what device to use for all apps that need GPS. Furthermore, if I select external BT GPS device, it could also automatically enable BT on the phone, which is normally disabled to save battery.
Is it possible? Or am I wishing too much?
I don't know if there is a unversal solution. I think all apps that use gps default to the gps module in the phone.
as for tomtom, go to Change Preferences > Configure GPS > Configure and then you can choose which module to use.
Hope that helps.
I went through some steps to enable external GPS for NaviComputer:
http://navicomputer.com/blog/?p=14
After those settings, my internal GPS is no longer working in TomTom. I have, of course, tried to go to Preferences > Configure GPS > Configure and chose built in GPS but that didn't help.
Anyway, I think I could spend some time reversing what I have done in the first place and get TomTom to use internal GPS again, but that is not the point. What I would like to have is an easy Switch On/Off button for External GPS, so that I would never need to remember all those setting changes and be able to do it with a click of the button....
You could try GPSGate (http://gpsgate.com/products/gpsgate_client), it's not free but you can set all your programs to use the GPS gate port then use GPS gate to switch between your BT/Internal GPS in one "bulk setting". Then you only need to change one program each time and all your nav programs will be updated.
Hope that makes sense...
Dave
sounds good, will try that

Hook External GPS to Nook via Bluetooth

I was wondering if anyone knows how it is possible to connect an external GPS using the now hacked Bluetooth.
I saw no option in CM7 or MIUI to allow external GPS.
Thanks!
You need Bluetooth GPS from the market. Then somewhere in cm7 you need to enable mock locations. I can't remember exactly where at the moment but search the nook forums and you will find it
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Mock locations is at Settings > Applications > Development
I use a Garmin GPS 10 over BT. It works fine. You need an app that uses GPS. There doesn't appear to be build-in communication with a GPS module where it will act like it's built in hardware. At least I never found it.
I've used GPS BT, Google Maps and a couple of others and it works fine.
But now that you mention it, that would be a cool feature for CM7 to talk to a GPS module automatically and treat it like built in hardware.

GPS alternative fix for android, mac, pc, phones, laptop tablets via bluetooth gps

* This involves setting up connection via bluetooth to external GPS sensor. If you already know about this, just skip this post. No flaming needed
If not and still frustrate with GPS accuracy with all the latest ROMs, then read on.
I'm just posting so late researcher and newbies are aware of this quick and easy option too instead of the soldering or other alteration that involves open up the physical device. I've been using it for almost 2 years but did not have time to read around much so did not know about this option until recently. I'm slow...I know...lol
Recently, I've been researching for better solid GPS solution and how to cut down battery drain on ICS & JellyBean and ran into a video that involve using external bluetooth. (I did tried the Corrected GPS hardware fix, didn't really help...)
Anyway, I found several external sensors out there, but the ones that are cheap and small are $12 TomTom MKII or $25 Globesat BT-368i at ebay/amazon.
I thought globesat has more capability and longer rechargeable battery life (10+) so I got the Globesat. But MKii probably will do just fine.
Vibrant built-in GPS sensor works great for Froyo, but so-so or OK for GB, ICS, JB, CM7, CM9, or CM10.
When the built-in works, it has all kind of restriction such as does not work after CPU goes into deep sleep or you must do full lock immediately after reboot and before deep sleep & cannot toggle the gps off again.
So any solution that work ON/OFF on demand that is locks quickly with accuracy of within 30ft is perfect to me. You need accuracy of 30 ft or less or else google map or some other program will jump around on locking where you are and give false/wierd direction.
Fortunately, the option of using external GPS sensor via bluetooth is available in most Android and does the job well. I use GPS almost daily to check if there is traffic jam or other quicker alternative detour so the external bluetooth is always available in my car is perfect.
Not only that, it can save your battery too.
I gained about 5 hrs of battery time with Wifi & GPS off most of the time. I get even more battery time when I put the phone on Airplane mode and use GPS exclusively via bluetooth - meaning only bluetooth enable. I don't know how to explain it but I noticed it does. I guess the external sensor does most of the work and just relay minimal data to it and built-in radio/wifi/gps not running so it saves ton of battery.
So far, the coolest thing that worked now is I got more battery out of the phone under ICS or JellyBean ROM (not using built-in gps with wifi off) under Airplane mode and offline turn-by-turn navigation (google maps & Sygic) that still work with external sensor via bluetooth. In essence, that is like having the traditional garmin or tomtom gps anywhere you go as long as you have map available stored locally on your phone (aka offline). Sygic allows you to buy entire US map or the world and put it on your phone for offline navigation. Google maps allow only 6 offline map where each map is around 70-82mb or less. I got entire Orange county in my offline map and can use external gps to pinpoint where i am. The only sucky thing with google maps is you have to get the turn by turn navigation first then you can toggle gps off. Sygic does not rely on built-in gps enable in order for it to work. This is all great the next time I go to Yellowstone National park, since cell signal there sucks for T-mobile. With the external gps, you can put it on your hat and go hiking and still get gps to work wether you use online or offline Google maps, Sygic, Locus, or Orux....
To get your device able to use external GPS sensor via bluetooth, all you have to do is:
1) buy the bluetooth GPS sensor
2) download & install Bluetooth GPS app on android market ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=googoo.android.btgps&hl=en ) by Googoo Android
3) run it, checkmarked "Enable Mock GPS Provider", click Connect
4) go to device Settings, checkmarked "allow mock locations" or equivalent.
5) that's all...use any map software online or offline kind.
The lock I got with this is within 1 second and accuracy of around 6-15ft (on globalsat BT-368i)
You can use this device during hiking to save your cell battery.
You can also use it with mac, pc, windows phone, laptop, tablets that do not have gps sensor built-in with it...all for $12-25...worth it
WHILE DRIVING w/ ext BT GPS configued as Source GPS on CM10 Preview w/ ext bt option...11 out of 12 birds locked and accuracy down to 11ft...
The moment you turn on, it can lock 6+ satellites almost immediately
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EVEN ON AIRPLANE MODE (where almost everything is shutdown including DATA except for GPS & BT), it still saw 10 out of 12 birds with similar locking and was still able to navigate w/ ext bt gps
Navigation turn by turn under AIRPLANE mode
inaccurate signal for car navigation
kobesabi said:
* This involves setting up connection via bluetooth to external GPS sensor. If you already know about this, just skip this post. No flaming needed
If not and still frustrate with GPS accuracy with all the latest ROMs, then read on.
I'm just posting so late researcher and newbies are aware of this quick and easy option too instead of the soldering or other alteration that involves open up the physical device. I've been using it for almost 2 years but did not have time to read around much so did not know about this option until recently. I'm slow...I know...lol
Recently, I've been researching for better solid GPS solution and how to cut down battery drain on ICS & JellyBean and ran into a video that involve using external bluetooth. (I did tried the Corrected GPS hardware fix, didn't really help...)
Anyway, I found several external sensors out there, but the ones that are cheap and small are $12 TomTom MKII or $25 Globesat BT-368i at ebay/amazon.
I thought globesat has more capability and longer rechargeable battery life (10+) so I got the Globesat. But MKii probably will do just fine.
Vibrant built-in GPS sensor works great for Froyo, but so-so or OK for GB, ICS, JB, CM7, CM9, or CM10.
When the built-in works, it has all kind of restriction such as does not work after CPU goes into deep sleep or you must do full lock immediately after reboot and before deep sleep & cannot toggle the gps off again.
So any solution that work ON/OFF on demand that is locks quickly with accuracy of within 30ft is perfect to me. You need accuracy of 30 ft or less or else google map or some other program will jump around on locking where you are and give false/wierd direction.
Fortunately, the option of using external GPS sensor via bluetooth is available in most Android and does the job well. I use GPS almost daily to check if there is traffic jam or other quicker alternative detour so the external bluetooth is always available in my car is perfect.
Not only that, it can save your battery too.
I gained about 5 hrs of battery time with Wifi & GPS off most of the time. I get even more battery time when I put the phone on Airplane mode and use GPS exclusively via bluetooth - meaning only bluetooth enable. I don't know how to explain it but I noticed it does. I guess the external sensor does most of the work and just relay minimal data to it and built-in radio/wifi/gps not running so it saves ton of battery.
So far, the coolest thing that worked now is I got more battery out of the phone under ICS or JellyBean ROM (not using built-in gps with wifi off) under Airplane mode and offline turn-by-turn navigation (google maps & Sygic) that still work with external sensor via bluetooth. In essence, that is like having the traditional garmin or tomtom gps anywhere you go as long as you have map available stored locally on your phone (aka offline). Sygic allows you to buy entire US map or the world and put it on your phone for offline navigation. Google maps allow only 6 offline map where each map is around 70-82mb or less. I got entire Orange county in my offline map and can use external gps to pinpoint where i am. The only sucky thing with google maps is you have to get the turn by turn navigation first then you can toggle gps off. Sygic does not rely on built-in gps enable in order for it to work. This is all great the next time I go to Yellowstone National park, since cell signal there sucks for T-mobile. With the external gps, you can put it on your hat and go hiking and still get gps to work wether you use online or offline Google maps, Sygic, Locus, or Orux....
To get your device able to use external GPS sensor via bluetooth, all you have to do is
1) buy the bluetooth GPS sensor
2) download & install Bluetooth GPS app on android market by Googoo Android
3) run it, checkmarked "Enable Mock GPS Provider", click Connect
4) go to device Settings, checkmarked "allow mock locations" or equivalent.
5) that's all...use any map software online or offline kind.
The lock I got with this is within 1 second and accuracy of around 6-15ft (on globalsat BT-368i)
You can use this device during hiking to save your cell battery.
You can also use it with mac, pc, windows phone, laptop, tablets that do not have gps sensor built-in with it...all for $12-25...worth it
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Hello everybody,
I have an Ainol Novo 7 Fire Tablet with the feiyu 1031 rom , and I just installed Sygic Maps on it yesterday, I also downloaded the bluetooth gps app by googoo android and when I connected my external bluetooth gps ,I got a lock on my position within seconds. My problem is that when I open Sygic maps, I get the error " Inaccurate Signal for Car Navigation" even though the bluetooth gps app shows me all the available satellites , I have enabled mock location in my setting also but still have no luck in sygic catching the gps signal
Any help or advice would be sincerely appreciated
Thanks
Prakash
praks_khemlani said:
Hello everybody,
I have an Ainol Novo 7 Fire Tablet with the feiyu 1031 rom , and I just installed Sygic Maps on it yesterday, I also downloaded the bluetooth gps app by googoo android and when I connected my external bluetooth gps ,I got a lock on my position within seconds. My problem is that when I open Sygic maps, I get the error " Inaccurate Signal for Car Navigation" even though the bluetooth gps app shows me all the available satellites , I have enabled mock location in my setting also but still have no luck in sygic catching the gps signal
Any help or advice would be sincerely appreciated
Thanks
Prakash
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@prakash, i have ainol novo 7 fire tab with 4.0.4 version i would suggest you to install gps test and see if the app on your tab show the gps status as On in green color and also shows the gps coordinates. one thing i had to do with my tab is downloaded build prop editor app from appstore and edit the gps.enable propery from false to true (requires root access, and my ainol tab had default root access).
remember the ainol tab does not have a build in gps chip which is why you need to turn the above prop to true.
i am successfully using the below combination for my my ainol fire tab
nokia phone with built in gps. using extgp app from nokia to transmit gps coordinates over bluetooth. on my tab using gps bluetooth mouse and i now have gps location shown on google maps, navigator etc.
hope this helps.
venky4rhyme said:
@prakash, i have ainol novo 7 fire tab with 4.0.4 version i would suggest you to install gps test and see if the app on your tab show the gps status as On in green color and also shows the gps coordinates. one thing i had to do with my tab is downloaded build prop editor app from appstore and edit the gps.enable propery from false to true (requires root access, and my ainol tab had default root access).
remember the ainol tab does not have a build in gps chip which is why you need to turn the above prop to true.
i am successfully using the below combination for my my ainol fire tab
nokia phone with built in gps. using extgp app from nokia to transmit gps coordinates over bluetooth. on my tab using gps bluetooth mouse and i now have gps location shown on google maps, navigator etc.
hope this helps.
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I have the same tablet with the same firmware and...
thanks for your answer! It works
AW: GPS alternative fix for android, mac, pc, phones, laptop tablets via bluetooth gp
Where do you get the globesat so cheap?
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I'll have to give this a try and get back to you on the results. Thanks!
testomat said:
Where do you get the globesat so cheap?
Sent from my SGH-T959 using xda app-developers app
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Ditto. I would like to know this as well. I'm seeing the 368i for about $60 and the mkii for about $25.
smithmal
Test
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venky4rhyme said:
@prakash, i have ainol novo 7 fire tab with 4.0.4 version i would suggest you to install gps test and see if the app on your tab show the gps status as On in green color and also shows the gps coordinates. one thing i had to do with my tab is downloaded build prop editor app from appstore and edit the gps.enable propery from false to true (requires root access, and my ainol tab had default root access).
remember the ainol tab does not have a build in gps chip which is why you need to turn the above prop to true.
i am successfully using the below combination for my my ainol fire tab
nokia phone with built in gps. using extgp app from nokia to transmit gps coordinates over bluetooth. on my tab using gps bluetooth mouse and i now have gps location shown on google maps, navigator etc.
hope this helps.
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Hi Everyone
Thanks for all the great info.
I have a Novo8 Discover with 4.1.1 trying to connect to a Samsun Captivate via bluetooth. I have tried all the fixes above except couldn`t find gps enable property so i changed gpswithwifi from 1 to 0. This allowed GPS Mouse to show connected but says unable to compute gps data. Also have GPS NMEA Sender installed on phone but on trying to connect says java.io IOError. Seems that I am close but am still doing something wrong. I have tried all sorts of things and spent a lot of time on this.
Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you and best regards,
Robin
I use a Nokia LD3W with my Vibrant and it works fantastic. I use it while racing my motorcycle and the data refresh rate is so much higher and accurate than the internal, it works excellent.
Thanks for the reply.
My Discover doesn't have internal GPS so there is a bit of trickery involved to make it work. How is your battery life?
Truth is I bought the wrong tablet for my intended application. The company I bought it from said it had GPS and I took their word for it.
Haven't had time to mess with it lately but will keep you posted when I do get it running.
Regards
Robin
GPS problems
Hi everyone,
I realize the I don't have the time or skill to make this work.
I have an External GSP model BU-353 w/USB. I have ordered a female USB to male Micro USB.
I hope to make this work on my Novo8 Discover.
First, is it possible to make this into an accurate, reliable GPS?
Second, how much would it cost to have some pro help to make this work?
Thank you and regards,
Robin

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