[Q] Internal Sotrage Problems - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

Ive been fooling around with my phone, by that i mean rooting and such. But really recently ive noticed that my internal storage is almost completely full no matter if i factory reset my phone and wipe all caches. The sizes don't even add up, the biggest thing is clockwerk recovery at 2gb but somehow there is another 7gb of something that i can't see. Is there files hidden somewhere that are causing this huge usage of space?
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Use ES file explorer, enable to show hidden files. That should answer your question.
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I see a lot of **** in lots of folders all over my device but im afraid to delete stuff. Would it let me delete important files?

chairstorm said:
I see a lot of **** in lots of folders all over my device but im afraid to delete stuff. Would it let me delete important files?
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Use clean master from the play store, it will detect what is not needed and ask if you want to delete it.
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Use clean master from the play store, it will detect what is not needed and ask if you want to delete it.
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even that doesn't help there is still 80% of storage taken up by something, could my CWM backups somehow be ending up on my internal storage instead of my SD because it seems that way

Use es file explorer to move any important files from internal storage to external storage (like cwm backups or photos) then wipe internal storage. After that you should have about 9 GB free on your 16 GB s4.
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The nandroid backups were what was causing the huge space problems, I moved them to my sdcard and deleted them off my internal sdcard and I now have all my space back.

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The small internal storage is catching up to me. I am running low. I've rooted my phone and deleted as much bloatware as I can. But I still have too many apps that need to run internal and I believe a lot of data for apps, even if that app is move to external, is still on the internal. I do clean out the cache periodically but it is not enough. Any other cool tricks to try? I guess I will eventually resort to prioritizing internal apps and removing the ones lower on the list.
man I love this phone but which the internal storage was bigger or I can take more advantage of my big SD card.
keesio said:
The small internal storage is catching up to me. I am running low. I've rooted my phone and deleted as much bloatware as I can. But I still have too many apps that need to run internal and I believe a lot of data for apps, even if that app is move to external, is still on the internal. I do clean out the cache periodically but it is not enough. Any other cool tricks to try? I guess I will eventually resort to prioritizing internal apps and removing the ones lower on the list.
man I love this phone but which the internal storage was bigger or I can take more advantage of my big SD card.
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if you have rooted you can try link2sd or app2sdx
If you are rooted then have you thought of turning some of then into system apps.
This will move into system portion of the internal space which does not show up in free space.
In effect you have 2 partitions one for the Rom and needed system apps like home launcher etc.
The other partition is where you move apps to internal storage.
Move all gapps there, move flash player, and any other apps that are big on space.
To move either use titanium backup or root explorer.
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zolaisugly said:
If you are rooted then have you thought of turning some of then into system apps.
This will move into system portion of the internal space which does not show up in free space.
In effect you have 2 partitions one for the Rom and needed system apps like home launcher etc.
The other partition is where you move apps to internal storage.
Move all gapps there, move flash player, and any other apps that are big on space.
To move either use titanium backup or root explorer.
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You can't make the flash player a system app; it needs to stay in the data partition to work.
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DdcCabuslay said:
You can't make the flash player a system app; it needs to stay in the data partition to work.
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I sent my flash player to system and it is working fine and it updates.
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heihei_ivan said:
if you have rooted you can try link2sd or app2sdx
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For all this time I had SDMove and thought link2sd and apps2sd were the same when it is not. Never realized link2sd allows me to move those "non-movable" apps to reside external storage. works great and was able to free up more internal space. THANKS!
zolaisugly said:
If you are rooted then have you thought of turning some of then into system apps.
This will move into system portion of the internal space which does not show up in free space.
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Need to check this out, thanks!
try systemcleanup
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Storage

Using SD maid if found where the heck all my storage was going. Under /storage/emulated the folders /legacy and /0 are exactly the same with all the same stuff in it. Is there 2 of everything in my internal SD? Can I delete one of these folders? I attached a screenshot
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For giggles I deleted one. The folder was still there but empty and the other folder is also empty. I'm thinking they are the same just shown twice with different names. Not actually duplicate.
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Hmm okay damn. Trying to figure out where this space is going because all I really have is a couple things in the downloads folder and thats it. Another screenshot of my storage in settings kinda further backs my idea
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Have you done any nandroid backups?
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jpeterson066 said:
Using SD maid if found where the heck all my storage was going. Under /storage/emulated the folders /legacy and /0 are exactly the same with all the same stuff in it. Is there 2 of everything in my internal SD? Can I delete one of these folders? I attached a screenshot
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They are not duplicate files... The files are only stored in one location, but each folder has a "link" to them...
Sorta like your computer and creating "shortcuts"
That's all well and good, but...
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They are not duplicate files... The files are only stored in one location, but each folder has a "link" to them...
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...even Android's storage manager can't get it right:
Phone:
mako 16GB
rev_11
MAKOZ10o
M9615A-CEFWMAZM-2.0.1700.48
Secure Boot - enabled
Lock State - unlocked
Rooted with (an otherwise) stock ROM (4.2.2 OTA) and Clockwork Mod Touch 6.0.2.3.
I have found four places seeming to be my SD storage:
/sdcard
/storage/sdcard0
/storage/emulated/0
/storage/emulated/legacy
I've attached other screenshots showing how File Expert HD and DiskView treat my storage. CWM 6.0.2.3 also "misinterprets" my storage situation so I can't make more than 2 backups, and if I have 2 then I struggle for space for downloads and apps. I really wouldn't care about this if apps understood it - it makes you wonder how it managed to get released when not only do no apps support it, but Android's own system gets confused!
I've seen posts talk about merging all SD data with /data/media/0 but on my phone (using both File Expert and the new File Expert HD) that's showing up as a file not a folder. Seriously, how do I sort this out? Which is the real folder, why are the other three there, how do I disable this silly "shortcut" thing that's destroying my phone's storage?
Did you guys make any nandroid backup on the SD cards?
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Did you guys make any nandroid backup on the SD cards?
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Yeah, what originally alerted me to the space issue was when I went to make my second nandroid since installing the 4.2.2 OTA. I made one before and one after the update, then went to make a third in order to have a recent backup before trying to flash the Ubuntu Touch Dev preview but the nandroid failed due to insufficient storage space.
Ultrabenosaurus said:
Yeah, what originally alerted me to the space issue was when I went to make my second nandroid since installing the 4.2.2 OTA. I made one before and one after the update, then went to make a third in order to have a recent backup before trying to flash the Ubuntu Touch Dev preview but the nandroid failed due to insufficient storage space.
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This should explain the "missing" storage. Since you made two nandroid backups and you have quite a lot of apps installed (2.89GB), this will take at least 6 GB of space.
Edit: Nandroid backups don't show on the android storage view.
andyli1985 said:
This should explain the "missing" storage. Since you made two nandroid backups and you have quite a lot of apps installed (2.89GB), this will take at least 6 GB of space.
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At the time of taking the screenshots in my first post, I only have one nandroid in order to keep a decent amount of free space. The fact that CWM is also misinterpreting the storage makes me think it's backing up all 4 locations, which means that my nandroid is stupidly big. That coupled with all apps mistaking the 3 mirror locations as actual files results in a huge loss of potential storage space as apps think the device is full when it really isn't.
I should probably also mention that Windows reports the same free/used space numbers as File Expert HD.
All your internal data lies within /data/media/
The contents within that is usually what is visible to the user on a TW ROM. Once you switch to an AOSP ROM a second partition is created in /storage/emulated/0. This is your actual internal memory. Any previous downloads or backups made before installing an AOSP ROM will be located in /data/media/ since that was it's original directory. You can still view the "0" folder in /data/media/ but all your downloads, backups, etc, will be directed to /storage/emulated/0/ by default.
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All your internal data lies within /data/media/
The contents within that is usually what is visible to the user on a TW ROM. Once you switch to an AOSP ROM a second partition is created in /storage/emulated/0. This is your actual internal memory. Any previous downloads or backups made before installing an AOSP ROM will be located in /data/media/ since that was it's original directory. You can still view the "0" folder in /data/media/ but all your downloads, backups, etc, will be directed to /storage/emulated/0/ by default.
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I don't understand what you mean by a "TW ROM" but I haven't changed ROM. I unlocked the bootloader and rooted, but other than a few quick plays with Ubuntu Touch I'm still using the stock ROM (which I return to from Ubuntu via restoring a CWM nandroid). I haven't flashed any Android ROMs at all.
I didn't have the phone long before I got the 4.2.2 OTA update and I didn't check the folder structure before then, but I didn't notice any suspiciously fast drops in free space until after said update.
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At the time of taking the screenshots in my first post, I only have one nandroid in order to keep a decent amount of free space. The fact that CWM is also misinterpreting the storage makes me think it's backing up all 4 locations, which means that my nandroid is stupidly big. That coupled with all apps mistaking the 3 mirror locations as actual files results in a huge loss of potential storage space as apps think the device is full when it really isn't.
I should probably also mention that Windows reports the same free/used space numbers as File Expert HD.
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Can you use a file explorer with root access and check how big is this folder? /data/media/clockworkmod/backup
File Expert and File Expert HD both see it as a file... What app should I use?
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Install ES File Explorer, then follow the instructions on this post
Going to have to count up the folder size manually, will do it later and report back because I need to get ready for work now.
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you know that the "Real" folders are in "mnt/shell/emulated"?^^
There you also see the clockworkmod folder and check it's size.

Miscellaneous files takes up 29 gb of space?

I have a rooted note 3 running beans and when I was dling a few apps it then said insufficient space. I checked and it says that miscellaneous files are taking up 29 gb of space. Anyone had this happen and/or no a fix? Thanks !
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Someone thumbnails files grab too much of space. Look for that.
I use the app called DiskUsage from the Playstore to identify what is taking up space on my phones/tablets. It will read the internal drive and the external as well then lay it out in a nice table. You are then able to delete things from right within the app.
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Someone thumbnails files grab too much of space. Look for that.
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Thanks for that suggestion. But how do I do that?
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CreekDirt said:
I use the app called DiskUsage from the Playstore to identify what is taking up space on my phones/tablets. It will read the internal drive and the external as well then lay it out in a nice table. You are then able to delete things from right within the app.
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I downloaded disk usage app but what exactly am I looking for that may be causing the miscellaneous file usage? Thanks !
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So I did a clean install of beans to see if that may fix the issue but it didn't change anything at all. Any help would be appreciated !
I don't believe it's any of my backups because they are on my ext card.
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go to your internal memory then find a folder called dcim. You will find a folder called .thumbnails delete it and voila
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go to your internal memory then find a folder called dcim. You will find a folder called .thumbnails delete it and voila
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Thanks but that didn't change anything
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When I click on miscellaneous files it shows
System memory 29.56 gb
Then lists
Viber 16.35 mb and other items listed down in decreasing size.
Anyone know how I can increase my storage ?
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Anyone have a fix?
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If you have made a backup through recovery, it takes up a lot of space. Also, Titanium Backups also takes up a huge amount of space. If your recovery is CWM, you should check a folder labeled clockworkmod. You will see how much a cwm backup takes. I believe the clockworkmod folder doesn't get deleted if you do a factory reset or if you unroot your device. Don't quote me on this. I may be wrong.
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If you have made a backup through recovery, it takes up a lot of space. Also, Titanium Backups also takes up a huge amount of space. If your recovery is CWM, you should check a folder labeled clockworkmod. You will see how much a cwm backup takes. I believe the clockworkmod folder doesn't get deleted if you do a factory reset or if you unroot your device. Don't quote me on this. I may be wrong.
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Thanks for your response! I haven't made any backups with titanium as of yet. I am not sure if safestrap uses CWM or TWRP but I believe it's the latter. But all my backups were stored on my external sd card. Is it possible for it to be stored on the internal along with the external even if I pointed it to the external ?
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Titanium Backups is made internally. I'm not familiar with TWRP but CWM should have an option for internal or external. I use System Tuner Pro and it has a feature where it gives you a breakdown of all your heavy apps in memory. So far for me on my Note 3, it has been clockworkmod taking up 3.93GB and N.O.V.A. 3 coming in second at 2.4GB. I don't have many apps but I do have games that takes up alot of space such as Real Racing 3 (2.01GB), NOVA 3 (2.46GB),Need For Speed Most Wanted (2.02GB)
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Titanium Backups is made internally. I'm not familiar with TWRP but CWM should have an option for internal or external. I use System Tuner Pro and it has a feature where it gives you a breakdown of all your heavy apps in memory. So far for me on my Note 3, it has been clockworkmod taking up 3.93GB and N.O.V.A. 3 coming in second at 2.4GB. I don't have many apps but I do have games that takes up alot of space such as Real Racing 3 (2.01GB), NOVA 3 (2.46GB),Need For Speed Most Wanted (2.02GB)
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I will try system tuner pro but Its funny because I used an app called my drives and it says I 16gb of free space but that's contrary to what my device actually states and the fact that I can't add any more apps etc at this point. I have moved apps/data to the sd card as a temp fix until I can free up space another way. TWRP has that same option to backup to internal and external and I chose external so I'm lost as to what's taking up that space. Under miscellaneous files it says system memory 29 gb used and lists viber 16mb and others in decrease sizes.
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I will try system tuner pro but Its funny because I used an app called my drives and it says I 16gb of free space but that's contrary to what my device actually states and the fact that I can't add any more apps etc at this point. I have moved apps/data to the sd card as a temp fix until I can free up space another way. TWRP has that same option to backup to internal and external and I chose external so I'm lost as to what's taking up that space. Under miscellaneous files it says system memory 29 gb used and lists viber 16mb and others in decrease sizes.
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In CWM, there is an option to "free unused data". I chose this option once on a whim not knowing what it exactly does. After my phone rebooted, I checked my storage and I surprisingly gained a few GBs in space.
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In CWM, there is an option to "free unused data". I chose this option once on a whim not knowing what it exactly does. After my phone rebooted, I checked my storage and I surprisingly gained a few GBs in space.
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I will see if TWRP has that option as that would be great !
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Just simply connect your phone to pc via cable. Now browse all folders inside phone storage, make sure you have selected to show hidden files. monitor the storage of each folder. This will help you in finding the culprit folder.
I have the same issue with my note 3 running the same rom. Let me know if you come up with a fix
the answer to your question
cnotes2019 said:
I have a rooted note 3 running beans and when I was dling a few apps it then said insufficient space. I checked and it says that miscellaneous files are taking up 29 gb of space. Anyone had this happen and/or no a fix? Thanks !
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download DiskUsage from the play store to figure out what is taking up so much space. usually the problem is with the Android folder, delete the media under the android folder.
to be sure what folder is taking all the space go to your setting, then go to your storage then look at the miscelanous folder and and check how much gb/mb you need to get rid of.. check if the storage match the same size, then delete that folder.
in my case it was the media files under the android folder, i just deleted the whole folder and whala.

Rooting nightmare

Sorry in advance if i've posted this in the wrong place.
Can anyone help. I am wanting put Android 4.4 kitkat on my Lg g2 D802 (which i think was on EE, T-mobile) . I've tried cynamod as it's the most popular and a couple of others, but they all seem to want use the SD CARD of the phone. The G2 has not got a slot for that and from what i've read on some models there is a partition type thing on the fixed memeory. I don't have that and can't find a way round it. Does anyone know of an alternitive i can use.
Thank you
I thinks it's just the internal memory card. The one that shows up when you connect to pc
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TheHaso said:
I thinks it's just the internal memory card. The one that shows up when you connect to pc
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It just show INTERNAL STORAGE on my comp. The problem i've got is if i put the needed files for the rom on the memory where i know where they are. When i go to do the upgrade it deletes them as part of the upgrade. Rooting the phone was easy. it's trying to upgrade thats driving me nuts.
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It just show INTERNAL STORAGE on my comp. The problem i've got is if i put the needed files for the rom on the memory where i know where they are. When i go to do the upgrade it deletes them as part of the upgrade. Rooting the phone was easy. it's trying to upgrade thats driving me nuts.
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dont wipe internal storage
Lol not done that........yet
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you MUST be wiping the internal storage aswell when "updating", there is no way the ROM.zip will wipe from your storage unless you accidentally wipe it. Just stick it in the root directory of your storage and when wiping...if you are using TWRP, do not select the option to wipe data as it will wipe your internal storage aswell. To wipe data before the flash, go into wipe, advanced and then tick every partition apart from "internal storage"
"Internal Storage" is equivalent to "SD Card". No access to root or system partitions from Windows Explorer. Just me, but I always copy ROMs and other flashable zips to the "download" folder.
I'm agreeing with MalignantQuechnitlan. I haven't used ROM Manager or Clockwork Recovery in at least a year, but it seems you must be electing to wipe your SDCard partition at some point during the installation.
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Lol not done that........yet
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from CWM go to install zip-->choose zip from /sd card-->0/ anything you've put on the sd card should be there
gonna give these a go now. Thanks for replying

[Q] Internal memory leak?

So I've been looking around and trying to fix this problem myself but I've had no luck. I've almost completely run out of internal memory. I'm not sure if its a memory leak or what but its starting to affect my phone's ability to update apps. Currently, of the 16gb I have <800mb left but it used to be as low as ~50mb.
At first I tried just moving every app I could to my SD card, and I already transfer and delete every picture and video I have on my phone asap. So afterwards I wiped cache a few times. Finally I completely wiped and reset my phone to stock and still only freed up 1gb of space. I then flashed the negalite ROM. With this new rom and the core set of apps I use, all moved to the SD card, I have 829mb of internal memory free.
I understand that I really only have 8gb to play around with, but this screencap shows that I have 7gb being taken up by miscellaneous files, yet when I check what's in there it does not add up to 7gb (nothing below those files goes above a few hundred kb tops). Is there any way to free up more memory without deleting literally every app I have? I don't think I even have that many frivolous apps.
So to summarize, my phone is a sprint s4 SPH-L720 with 4.4.2 running the Negalite rom, with only 800mb/16gb internal free, trying to free up more. Not sure if its a memory leak or what.
Do you have any nandroid backups with either philz,cwm, or twrp recovery? If so those are about 3-5gbs each.
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Using a file manager that can show hidden files (ES can) look around and see if you see any folder named something like lost.dir or lost+found it might be that some deleted items were sent or left their instead of going into oblivion. I have had it occur before, after deleting the contents it freed up several 100s of MB to GB of memory.
It's possible it could be this.
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Do you have any nandroid backups with either philz,cwm, or twrp recovery? If so those are about 3-5gbs each.
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Hm I just went through the CWM folder and deleted some old backups supposedly but those were only like 9mb big... The mysteries keep mounting!
And catfood I tried looking through the files with file explorer but I couldn't find a lost or a variation of it.
Thanks for the replies though every little bit helps!
pinoysw1mmer said:
Hm I just went through the CWM folder and deleted some old backups supposedly but those were only like 9mb big... The mysteries keep mounting!
And catfood I tried looking through the files with file explorer but I couldn't find a lost or a variation of it.
Thanks for the replies though every little bit helps!
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Do you have any cloud apps like Google Drive or something of the like? Try checking sync options, or the programs settings, something might be downloading data to cache offline.
Backup your data!
Install philz_touch_6.19.6-jflte recovery
then go to Mount and Storage Menu
do a format for{ system, cache, date and(( /data and /data/media ( /sdcard)))
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Backup your data!
Install philz_touch_6.19.6-jflte recovery
then go to Mount and Storage Menu
do a format for{ system, cache, date and(( /data and /data/media ( /sdcard)))
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Do I have to install that one or can I just use CWM?
And catfood I will check my cloud settings.
pinoysw1mmer said:
Do I have to install that one or can I just use CWM?
And catfood I will check my cloud settings.
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I don't know but I used that recovery and it works for me.

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