Hi! I was using my N7 3G reading the news and suddenly it became unresponsive. It took about 2 seconds to recognize my touch. So i decided to turn it off and turn it back on. But after it turned back on the touch screen is completely dead. I can't even unlock it. Power and volume buttons still work. I'm on CM 10.1.3
I even forced reboot it many times by holding the power button for about 20s but that didn't help. Anyone ever had this issue too? It seems like a hardware problem. If that's the case i would have it repaired by ASUS but I'm afraid that I won't get warranty because I'm not on stock ROM+rooted+unlocked bootloader
Can you get into recovery? If so, try wiping the cache partition first to see if that helps.
If that doesn't help, do you have usb debugging enabled? If so,
should be able to use the Nexus 7 toolkit. Just boot your tablet, plug it in your machine, fire up the Nexus 7 toolkit and have it unroot and relock your BL.
You might also want to try and see if you can backup your data partition and your internal storage with the N7 toolkit. If you can do that, then you won't lose any of your data or application settings.
You should also be able to flash it back to stock as well via the toolkit and have it erase the user data.
If usb debugging is NOT enabled, then you might be hosed. You could at least do a factory reset in the main recovery.
Other than that, not much else can probably be done unless you want to open your tablet yourself and ensure all the connections are tight. There might be a lose connection for the digitizer and that's all you would need to do to fix it. Of course, that voids your warranty if you open it yourself. I don't know exactly where the hook up is. I'm sure a quick Google will tell you how to fix this if it's possible.
It definitely sounds like either your digitizer is bad or it's got a lose connection.
Good luck!
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thanks for your help. I was going to plug it in my PC BUT IT'S WORKING AGAIN. I was like WTF lol :laugh: . So it must be a lose connection i guess .
By the way, I'm planning to go back to stock in case it happen again so that i can get my warranty at ASUS. And I don't know much about rooting/ flashing so I want to ask some questions .
1. Can I flash google's stock ROM just like flashing other ROMs like CM with bootloader unlocked?
2. Have you tried KitKat. If so have you experienced battery drain? The only reason I rooted and installed CM is that I hate the battery draining issue. I had it since I updated my N7 3G to 4.2.2 and it kept happenings in 4.3
Anyway thanks a lot :good:
So far no major issue with battery and yes flashing process is the same just be careful u need to update ur bootloader to go to 4.4 and flashing wrong bootloader will brick ur device to be careful and read every thing.
Please ignore my spelling mistakes. English is not my native language.
xateeq said:
So far no major issue with battery and yes flashing process is the same just be careful u need to update ur bootloader to go to 4.4 and flashing wrong bootloader will brick ur device to be careful and read every thing.
Please ignore my spelling mistakes. English is not my native language.
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Well, I used wug's nexus root toolkit to root and unlock bootloader. If I use the option:"go back to stock lock bootloader and flash stock", can I install update from OTA like normal again?
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Well, I used wug's nexus root toolkit to root and unlock bootloader. If I use the option:"go back to stock lock bootloader and flash stock", can I install update from OTA like normal again?
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So I am going to be getting a N7 for Christmas, and I was wondering, should I root and unlock the tab before even setting it up? And should I accept the 4.2.1 update before or after doing all this?
Outdated yet young Motorola Photon 4G
I just did mine today on nexus 4 and 7. I had to read everything carefully to find out this was the method that I find it was easy. Make sure you read everything first. Look at the video for 4 and it should be similar to 7 and instructions are provided in link as well. btw I rooted it on 4.2.1.
As rooting will factory reset your device, it will delete all your data. Make sure you backup first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Do yourself a favor and learn to do it manually first before using toolkits. There is a lot of tutorials on doing so.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741395 Use fastboot to unlock device:
Command= fastboot OEM unlock
Select yes on your device to unlock boooader.
Install a custom recovery( I would reccomend twrp) and flash supersu zip and you are now rooted.
Need to go back to stock then this is great http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Yes toolkits do work but if things go wrong its good to know what to do.
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Do yourself a favor and learn to do it manually first before using toolkits. There is a lot of tutorials on doing so. Use adb to unlock device:
Command= adb OEM unlock
Select yes on your device to unlock boooader.
Install a custom recovery and flash supersu zip and you are now rooted.
Need to go back to stock then this is great http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Yes toolkits do work but if things go wrong its good to know what to do.
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I had no intention of using a toolkit lol. Link to the best method to root/unlock?
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Lol good deal added another link that you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741395
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Lol good deal added another link that you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741395
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Answered my edit before I could post it. You read my mind!
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Nexus 7 root and unlock.
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So I am going to be getting a N7 for Christmas, and I was wondering, should I root and unlock the tab before even setting it up? And should I accept the 4.2.1 update before or after doing all this?
Outdated yet young Motorola Photon 4G
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I bought my Nexus 7 about 2 weeks ago. I set it up then downloaded the jb 4.2.1 update. You will have to unlock before you root. I then downloaded Wugfresh Nexus 7 Tool kit to my computer. Very easy to follow instructions. The kit will take you through the steps on unlocking and rooting. There are videos on this procedure. I did not flash CWM and opted to flash TWRP. Excellent recovery system. I downloaded Goo manager app and you can install TWRP within the app. Very easy. You can then make nandroid backups and install custom roms. I am currently on Cyanogenmod 10.1 nightly.Cyanogenmod now has an updater within and it will search for new nightlys and also install them. Very easy. Hope this helps.
I do prefer twrp over cwm. And I was a long time cwm user before. You can fastboot the twrp.IMG file. And if you Fastboot twrp you will not have to rename .bak the stock recovery.
And yes you will want to unlock it and root it first thing since the unlock wipes the entire device.
What's the difference between CWM and TWRP?
Edit: Swipe was acting up.
Outdated yet young Motorola Photon 4G
In my opinion twrp gets more support and updates. Is way faster than cwm and you will never look back. Twrp is a great recovery.
Ok. So if/when I root the 7, I will be using a computer running windows xp, and I don't know how to install the correct files and where.
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Hey, I'd like you to help me decide whether I should root my Nexus 7 or not. This is my first android device and I'm a complete 'noob.' Since then I've been reading about rooting continuously and I would've done it already but I'm a bit concerned. I don't want to lose my warranty and I'm aware that I can unroot the device to get my warranty back but what if something happens to the screen or the power button, or what if it bricks after losing battery power? (I read somewhere that this happened to him during night, the device ran out of juice and he couldn't turn it on ever again) Would I still be able to unroot it so I could return it for repair?
My other concern is about the rooting process itself. I've read that it's 99% safe with a toolkit but anything can go wrong. Is this 1% a big risk? Would I be able to unbrick it if something happened? Since I'm a noob my only reason to root my device is to be able to run memory editors like gamecih or something like that. Are the risks worth it?
Thank you for your answers.
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Hey, I'd like you to help me decide whether I should root my Nexus 7 or not. This is my first android device and I'm a complete 'noob.' Since then I've been reading about rooting continuously and I would've done it already but I'm a bit concerned. I don't want to lose my warranty and I'm aware that I can unroot the device to get my warranty back but what if something happens to the screen or the power button, or what if it bricks after losing battery power? (I read somewhere that this happened to him during night, the device ran out of juice and he couldn't turn it on ever again) Would I still be able to unroot it so I could return it for repair?
My other concern is about the rooting process itself. I've read that it's 99% safe with a toolkit but anything can go wrong. Is this 1% a big risk? Would I be able to unbrick it if something happened? Since I'm a noob my only reason to root my device is to be able to run memory editors like gamecih or something like that. Are the risks worth it?
Thank you for your answers.
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In all honesty, a toolkit is almost completely unnecessary for the Nexus 7. You can do everything yourself in about 5 minutes. The thing about the Nexus 7 is that Google knew that people would try and do things with it, so they made it easy (How it should be with every device). One thing you should take into consideration when unlocking/rooting any device is "Why am I doing this?" If the answer is "Cuz I can!", you probably shouldn't. If you want to be able to use advanced apps that require root, go right ahead. Even if you are having performance problems, and just want to fix them by installing a new ROM after you unlock, go for it. If not, don't worry about it.
I recently purchased a used Nexus 4, Factory unlocked and sim free 16gb. Android v4.2.2
I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it and installed TWRP however i left it at that, i did not change ROM's or kernels.
After noticing that the phone did not function correctly i decided to return it to its factory state and return it to the store.
This is where my problems began....
As i had used a toolkit to unlock bootloader, root... etc.. i used the same one to undo the things i had done.
First i relocked the bootloader.
Then i tried to unroot but came across an error that i had to have bootloader unlocked to unroot.
so i unlocked the bootloader again.- it wiped the system
Then i tried to unroot,
but i had to have usb debugging enabled which meant i had to boot into the freshly wiped system.
So i went ahead and attempted to start the phone normally.
After about 5-10 mins on the Google screen it would finally move onto the X slash screen.
after 20 or so minuted the on that screen the phone would get extremely hot and still wouldn't boot.
I looked up online for solutions and one said to wipe dalvik cache in recovery
Did that- No luck
Another said to wipe cache
Tried to do that:
Cannot mount cache error message in TWRP
I then tried to restore a nandroid backup from TWRP, Still the same problem.
I even resset factory settings, nothing.
So i figure that the cache partition became messed up and therefore the phone couldnt boot into OS.
Luckily the store had given me a warranty which apparently covered whatever was wrong with the phone.
However, this time i am planning on purchasing a new nexus 4 this time strait from Google and am wondering:
What could have caused this problem? - Could it have been the fact that for a brief moment the phone was rooted while having a locked bootloader, messing something up (the cache partition maybe)?
Is/Has anyone ever experienced a similar problem?
How can people ( like me) avoid this problem/ issue?
Also as i mentioned the phone itself had several minor faults which was the reason i decided to return it to its original state, could this have been another hidden fault that particular phone?
One of the very reason why toolkit is not recommended for people who are not familiar with the process. When the toolkit decides to mess up, it leaves behind a bricked phone with no obvious function to undo the mistake.
Q. What could have caused this problem?
A. I don't know what the toolkit does to unroot your phone, technically "unroot" is to remove the superuser/supersu apk and su binary from your phone. This process can be done with a locked or unlocked bootloader.
Why? Because a locked bootloader only prevent anything to be written to your emmc block in the bootloader mode. However when you have custom recovery installed, you can do these modification in recovery mode even with a locked bootloader.
All process that you have described above will not brick your phone, some commands that you use with the toolkit unknowingly bricked it.
For Nexus devices, you can always go to this website to download the factory image for Nexus 4 and flash it with fastboot. Or flash with the toolkit, if you absolutely have to use it.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Q. Is/Has anyone ever experienced a similar problem?
A. There are people bricking their phone with toolkit everyday, so your answer is yes.
Q. How can people ( like me) avoid this problem/ issue?
A. Learn the fastboot and adb command, it's not a lot to learn, might only take 5 minutes, or 1 hour in worst case. I don't blame toolkits, because I believe the toolkit is made for good purpose, to simplify the process, to speed things up. But certainly not made for noobs.
Thank you for your very quick and detailed response. I have used fast boot commands on my previous Android, so I know the basics, just need to adapt my knowledge to the nexus. Will have to brush up on fast boot and read up on adb.
If this was to have happened on a phone that I had brought directly from google would it have been replaced by google?
Also if I was to send back a phone to google for what ever reason, would I need to unroot and uninstall custom recovery as well as locked the boot loader or would it be enough to only lock the boot loader?
Use the tool here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occamjwr66v
Put your device into the bootloader and flash.
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Use the tool here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occamjwr66v
Put your device into the bootloader and flash.
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ksilver89 said:
One of the very reason why toolkit is not recommended for people who are not familiar with the process. When the toolkit decides to mess up, it leaves behind a bricked phone with no obvious function to undo the mistake.
Q. What could have caused this problem?
A. I don't know what the toolkit does to unroot your phone, technically "unroot" is to remove the superuser/supersu apk and su binary from your phone. This process can be done with a locked or unlocked bootloader.
Why? Because a locked bootloader only prevent anything to be written to your emmc block in the bootloader mode. However when you have custom recovery installed, you can do these modification in recovery mode even with a locked bootloader.
All process that you have described above will not brick your phone, some commands that you use with the toolkit unknowingly bricked it.
For Nexus devices, you can always go to this website to download the factory image for Nexus 4 and flash it with fastboot. Or flash with the toolkit, if you absolutely have to use it.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Q. Is/Has anyone ever experienced a similar problem?
A. There are people bricking their phone with toolkit everyday, so your answer is yes.
Q. How can people ( like me) avoid this problem/ issue?
A. Learn the fastboot and adb command, it's not a lot to learn, might only take 5 minutes, or 1 hour in worst case. I don't blame toolkits, because I believe the toolkit is made for good purpose, to simplify the process, to speed things up. But certainly not made for noobs.
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It is soft-bricked, not bricked.
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It is soft-bricked, not bricked.
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Thanks, it helped so much that the whole world is gonna come here and click your thanks button.
my nexus 7 with jwr66y has struck on the screen boot failed
I tried to relock using nexus tool kit and then tried to flash stock rom and relock but unfortunately nexus root kit dint woed boot locker locked rk well and it displayed bootloader locked and failoed to flash stock rom and now all i got was a bootloader screen with locked state..help me
Hey, try to do the same procedure again.
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but unfortunately nexus root kit dint woed boot locker locked rk well
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Easy for you to say.
I don't know what the point of locking your bootloader would be - especially if you don't have a working ROM on the tablet (stock or otherwise).
If you are trying to go back to stock and never root again, well then: unlock your bootloader, get stock running on your tablet FIRST and only then lock the bootloader after everything else is working.
So, for the moment, unlock the bootloader and get a ROM installed. You can use a toolkit if you want, but using fastboot manually will avoid the "hiding" of any error messages. There are a TON of threads in here on how to do that.
And if you want any kind of decent help, don't use the phrase "it didn't work". That's totally ambiguous - it sort of implies that there is only one possible reason why something went wrong on your tablet, and we all know exactly what that one thing is. Not even close; there are hundreds of things that could have gone wrong.
A far better approach is to detail exactly what you were attempting, and then cut and paste any error messages you observed into your post here on XDA.
Hi There,
My colleague complained that he had an OTA update on his Nexus 6P and the after the update it was stuck in a boot loop where the Google logo keep on displaying.
When he bought back, he had showed it a shop already which they said they couldn't fix. However, the phone was later given to me for help and I have somehow manage to connect the device on fastboot and adb. Tried all the possible options such as unlocking the bootloader, loading .img's one by one... sideloading... etc.
No matter what I do, it keeps on doing the same boot loop. And when I leave the bootloader unlocked, it gives an error at first, then again goes back to the same.
Not sure whether what I am doing wrong or whether am I choosing the wrong build or so... would anyone care to advise?
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Hi There,
My colleague complained that he had an OTA update on his Nexus 6P and the after the update it was stuck in a boot loop where the Google logo keep on displaying.
When he bought back, he had showed it a shop already which they said they couldn't fix. However, the phone was later given to me for help and I have somehow manage to connect the device on fastboot and adb. Tried all the possible options such as unlocking the bootloader, loading .img's one by one... sideloading... etc.
No matter what I do, it keeps on doing the same boot loop. And when I leave the bootloader unlocked, it gives an error at first, then again goes back to the same.
Not sure whether what I am doing wrong or whether am I choosing the wrong build or so... would anyone care to advise?
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So the bootloader is unlocked? Exactly which build have you attempted to flash with fastboot? Have you tried flashing one of the full OTA zips with the stock recovery?
PS. Whatever you do don't lock the bootloader. And don't worry about the warning you get with the bootloader unlocked, that's normal.
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So the bootloader is unlocked? Exactly which build have you attempted to flash with fastboot? Have you tried flashing one of the full OTA zips with the stock recovery?
PS. Whatever you do don't lock the bootloader. And don't worry about the warning you get with the bootloader unlocked, that's normal.
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Thank you for the reply.. I have only locked the bootloader when I'm done with flashing... etc as it was giving me error. Regardless of the bootloader state, it kept on going through the bootloop like it didn't care.
I tried to flashing the factory image which is MTC19T and also tried the OTA which is MTC19V as said in here.
Still there's not luck!
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Thank you for the reply.. I have only locked the bootloader when I'm done with flashing... etc as it was giving me error. Regardless of the bootloader state, it kept on going through the bootloop like it didn't care.
I tried to flashing the factory image which is MTC19T and also tried the OTA which is MTC19V as said in here.
Still there's not luck!
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Don't worry about the warning and definitely don't lock the bootloader because if it gets stuck locked you'll really be screwed. Go to my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
Follow the instructions in section 10 (use the latest MTC19X build). Skip the part at the beginning about performing a factory reset because you can't actually get the phone to boot to do that. Make sure you include the "fastboot format userdata" command at the end (this will erase all data on the device). Leave the bootloader unlocked.
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Don't worry about the warning and definitely don't lock the bootloader because if it gets stuck locked you'll really be screwed. Go to my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
Follow the instructions in section 10 (use the latest MTC19X build). Skip the part at the beginning about performing a factory reset because you can't actually get the phone to boot to do that. Make sure you include the "fastboot format userdata" command at the end (this will erase all data on the device). Leave the bootloader unlocked.
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I have actually tried doing what section 10 says but with a different stock build.. Does that effect as well? However, let me give another shot with your said build and post back.
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I have actually tried doing what section 10 says but with a different stock build.. Does that effect as well? However, let me give another shot with your said build and post back.
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Did you format userdata? It's worth a try.
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Did you format userdata? It's worth a try.
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Yes, sire! I did all the possible things I could do without harming or bricking the device... Read each and every instruction carefully to do... but turned with no luck... however, I'm due to try the method and build you have suggested, I shall try that and get back to you!
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Yes, sire! I did all the possible things I could do without harming or bricking the device... Read each and every instruction carefully to do... but turned with no luck... however, I'm due to try the method and build you have suggested, I shall try that and get back to you!
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It probably won't work, any build should work, but it's worth a try. If that fails I can only suggest flashing TWRP recovery and trying to flash a custom ROM to see if that works.
So long as you have the bootloader.img and radio.img files, you can try to format boot as well, however Heisenberg may yell at me for even typing that
I had a similar issue - bootloop, but it was getting to the boot animation for about 3 seconds, then rebooting. When I formatted all the areas before flashing them from the stock image, it allowed me to boot up as normal. Stable ever since.
Hi There,
Coming back to the issue, I have just downloaded the build that was suggested by "Heisenberg" and tried it. It was still the same, as in the Google logo keep on flashing but the android bot just appeared once with the logo. But still there not luck as the device stays with Google logo but does nothing.
However, I'm able to see the device on fastboot. Nevertheless, I cannot seem to use adb command.. it doesn't even list on devices. Does that mean the adb isn't working?
Meanwhile, all my fastboot commands are working with no issues at all.
EDIT: When I tried the TWRP recovery, I can flash the recover, but I can seem to go to the recovery window at all as the device keep on showing "The device software can't be checked for corruption". When I pass that also the same boot loop.
I too am having the bootloop issue on my stock Nexus 6P. Is there a way to unlock the device from the bootloader? I'm unable to carry out step one on Heisenberg's guide because I'm unable to actually boot up my phone past the Google logo. Am I pretty much screwed?
bcjk8210 said:
I too am having the bootloop issue on my stock Nexus 6P. Is there a way to unlock the device from the bootloader? I'm unable to carry out step one on Heisenberg's guide because I'm unable to actually boot up my phone past the Google logo. Am I pretty much screwed?
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Unfortunately yes. Unless you enabled OEM Unlocking in the developers menu before your phone went sideways you probably have a hard bricked phone. Is it under warranty?
I went through this in November with a completely stock Nexus 6P. I was 3 days past my one year warranty! Google would not send me a new phone. It was completely bricked by the OTA update I received! I was put in touch with Huawei. I had to send the bricked phone to them. 10 days later I received a working model back. Unacceptable that an OTA update trashes a one year old $650 phone. Luckily I had my OnePlus One still, and was able to use that while I waited. I was even able to update that to 7.1.1 since it was rooted. Obviously there is some sort of issue that we are not being told of regarding the dangers of accepting OTA updates on a stock/bootlocked phone.
TemplesOfSyrinx said:
I went through this in November with a completely stock Nexus 6P. I was 3 days past my one year warranty! Google would not send me a new phone. It was completely bricked by the OTA update I received! I was put in touch with Huawei. I had to send the bricked phone to them. 10 days later I received a working model back. Unacceptable that an OTA update trashes a one year old $650 phone. Luckily I had my OnePlus One still, and was able to use that while I waited. I was even able to update that to 7.1.1 since it was rooted. Obviously there is some sort of issue that we are not being told of regarding the dangers of accepting OTA updates on a stock/bootlocked phone.
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Bootloop issues are common on the 6P even with custom ROMs--it just happens to be much more likely you can recover with the custom ROMs installed since the bootloader is unlocked. I think it's a hardware issue with the 6P rather than an OTA issue. It's probably not an accident that Huawei didn't make the Pixels.
Doesn't seem right that I have to "void" my warranty and install a custom ROM on an unlocked, rooted phone in order to recover from a hardware defect. That's BS pure and simple. I want to use the latest software, that's why I bought a Nexus. I want to use all the conveniences like Android Pay. That's why I don't unlock or root anymore. I rooted every Android phone I ever had until now, starting with the original Motorola Droid. Now that security is so important to Google, and you can't use all the Android features with an unlocked bootloader, they need to step up to fix these problems.
This happened to my wife's phone, sent back to Bell. Will see what happens.
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Doesn't seem right that I have to "void" my warranty and install a custom ROM on an unlocked, rooted phone in order to recover from a hardware defect. That's BS pure and simple. I want to use the latest software, that's why I bought a Nexus. I want to use all the conveniences like Android Pay. That's why I don't unlock or root anymore. I rooted every Android phone I ever had until now, starting with the original Motorola Droid. Now that security is so important to Google, and you can't use all the Android features with an unlocked bootloader, they need to step up to fix these problems.
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Unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty on the Nexus 6P. If you are under warranty then just RMA the phone if an OTA bootloops your phone. It's your choice whether to keep the bootloader locked or not but if you keep the bootloader locked it's probably impossible to recover from a bootloop. Google keeps factory images for Nexus and Pixel phones on its website but you can't flash those images with a locked bootloader. Why would they provide the images if using them voided your warranty?
You are missing my point. If I unlock my bootloader so I can recover from a boot loop that may happen, I will no longer be able to use a huge feature of the phone. Android Pay will no longer function. In days passed the rumour was your warranty was void if you unlock. I assume that was started to keep people from doing it. All I know is I paid good money for a phone that is a disaster waiting to happen it seems.
If having an unlocked bootloader is so important to recover from a bricked phone, why do they lock it in the first place? And why won't Android Pay work with it unlocked? The answer is that you no longer have a secure phone if you unlock the bootloader.
bcjk8210 said:
I too am having the bootloop issue on my stock Nexus 6P. Is there a way to unlock the device from the bootloader? I'm unable to carry out step one on Heisenberg's guide because I'm unable to actually boot up my phone past the Google logo. Am I pretty much screwed?
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What Android version you had on your phone? What's your emmc name and ram name in bootloader? What's the manufacturing date in bootloader?
TemplesOfSyrinx said:
You are missing my point. If I unlock my bootloader so I can recover from a boot loop that may happen, I will no longer be able to use a huge feature of the phone. Android Pay will no longer function. In days passed the rumour was your warranty was void if you unlock. I assume that was started to keep people from doing it. All I know is I paid good money for a phone that is a disaster waiting to happen it seems.
If having an unlocked bootloader is so important to recover from a bricked phone, why do they lock it in the first place? And why won't Android Pay work with it unlocked? The answer is that you no longer have a secure phone if you unlock the bootloader.
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I think you bought the wrong phone. Nexus devices were never available commercially through carriers and were made for developers and people who like to flash things with their phones. There are ways to use Android Pay with an unlocked bootloader if you are so inclined. You are right that an unlocked bootloader is considered less secure but if you only install apps from Google Play or another trusted source you shouldn't have problems. You can also simply enable allow Oem Unlock in the developer menu. This doesn't actually unlock your bootloader but makes it possible for you to unlock it via fastboot if you get bootlooped and need to flash a factory image to restore. This way you can unlock the bootloader in an emergency but your phone is still secure. I think this should be enabled by default when the phones are shipped. Too many people with locked bootloaders end up with hard bricked phones where the Nexus 6P is concerned. Honestly, you would probably be better off selling your Nexus and getting something else that's more stable and made for people who have no Interest in flashing anything.
I am about a week or so away from receiving my V20, was curious if there is anything a Sprint user would miss after unlocking the bootloader and using a custom ROM.
Do you miss the AM/FM radio?
Is the development community slower than usual when a firmware update hits and the custom ROMs don't update their side as quick?
Besides disabling the AM/FM radio are data speeds or any other radios (blueooth/wifi/LTE bands) performing better/worse/differently?
And lastly, since it is impossible to go back to a stock phone after rooting, do you regret rooting and wish you could go back to stock?
If those out there could answer any or all of those questions I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you!
williamvito said:
I am about a week or so away from receiving my V20, was curious if there is anything a Sprint user would miss after unlocking the bootloader and using a custom ROM.
Do you miss the AM/FM radio?
Is the development community slower than usual when a firmware update hits and the custom ROMs don't update their side as quick?
Besides disabling the AM/FM radio are data speeds or any other radios (blueooth/wifi/LTE bands) performing better/worse/differently?
And lastly, since it is impossible to go back to a stock phone after rooting, do you regret rooting and wish you could go back to stock?
If those out there could answer any or all of those questions I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you!
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FM radio works. AM never existed. I am fairly quick on patching the stock roms but for custom(or stock custom) roms thats on other devs. I have noticed no issues with my connections compared to before rooting. I was the 3rd LS997 rooted if I remember right(This was before root was released). I can go back to stock at anytime if I want. Its not possible via a KDZ but I have already figured it out manually. Im not going to make the method public though because it is VERY involved and if someone messes up doing it, it WILL brick your phone. Then I would be blamed. So I have no plans to release it unless i get an easier way to do it. Just know that the hard part of figuring out if its possible is done...
Do keep in mind if you receive the ls997 on zv6 or zv7 you cannot root.
If you haven't noticed who I am look at the poster of the LS997 root method
me2151 said:
FM radio works. AM never existed. I am fairly quick on patching the stock roms but for custom(or stock custom) roms thats on other devs. I have noticed no issues with my connections compared to before rooting. I was the 3rd LS997 rooted if I remember right(This was before root was released). I can go back to stock at anytime if I want. Its not possible via a KDZ but I have already figured it out manually. Im not going to make the method public though because it is VERY involved and if someone messes up doing it, it WILL brick your phone. Then I would be blamed. So I have no plans to release it unless i get an easier way to do it. Just know that the hard part of figuring out if its possible is done...
Do keep in mind if you receive the ls997 on zv6 or zv7 you cannot root.
If you haven't noticed who I am look at the poster of the LS997 root method
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The good news, I received the phone on ZV5(!). The bad news? I followed your excellent tutorial until the very end when my over confidence didn't do a full wipe and now I have the secure start-up issue.
The unfortunate reality was me reading AFTER THE FACT your very clear warning:
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If you encounter a "Secure Boot" Password then booting the first time you did not Format data properly.
To reiterate: To properly decrypt the device you need to boot into TWRP and go to WIPE->FORMAT DATA and you will be prompted to type "yes" to format and decrypt.
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So now I'm stuck, I've tried booting back into TWRP via hardware buttons and without having the password I can't even go back in to re enable USB debugging.
Am I completely out of options here?
williamvito said:
The good news, I received the phone on ZV5(!). The bad news? I followed your excellent tutorial until the very end when my over confidence didn't do a full wipe and now I have the secure start-up issue.
The unfortunate reality was me reading AFTER THE FACT your very clear warning:
So now I'm stuck, I've tried booting back into TWRP via hardware buttons and without having the password I can't even go back in to re enable USB debugging.
Am I completely out of options here?
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No you arnt. You need to reinstall twrp through fastboot and then pull battery to turn off phone. Insert battery the use Hw Keys method by holding vol- and power til you the Lg the only let go of power then holding both again until you see factory reset. Do yes twice.
me2151 said:
No you arnt. You need to reinstall twrp through fastboot and then pull battery to turn off phone. Insert battery the use Hw Keys method by holding vol- and power til you the Lg the only let go of power then holding both again until you see factory reset. Do yes twice.
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You're the man, thanks for the quick reply! I will give this another go tomorrow.
me2151 said:
No you arnt. You need to reinstall twrp through fastboot and then pull battery to turn off phone. Insert battery the use Hw Keys method by holding vol- and power til you the Lg the only let go of power then holding both again until you see factory reset. Do yes twice.
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One last thing before I attempt this because I don't want to create another problem for myself, I'm lost as to how i'm supposed to reinstall TWRP from fastboot on my PC if I can't get the phone into fastboot mode. Is there a hardware method I need to do to get the phone into fastboot mode?
williamvito said:
One last thing before I attempt this because I don't want to create another problem for myself, I'm lost as to how i'm supposed to reinstall TWRP from fastboot on my PC if I can't get the phone into fastboot mode. Is there a hardware method I need to do to get the phone into fastboot mode?
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Once youve started the dirtysanta method it installs a new bootloader. you can access bootloader(fastboot) by holding VOL- and plugging iin the phone when powered off