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[Q] Galaxy s4 CPU, music and more

B) another question: the octa core version supports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
Snapdragon 600 (1.9ghz speed, 4 cores) or Exynos 5 Octa(4 cores A15, clocked at 1.6ghz+ 4 cores 1.2GHZ A7)
1) what is faster? exynos or snapdragon?
2) which one is more effectively? (battery friendly)? (***in both high-huge use and low-idle use.. in which one battery life are better)
3) there are any benchmarks test for both of them.?
i just dont know which one is better..
Adreno 320 GPU vs PowerVR SGX 544MP3
4) which one is stronger?
5) i really dont know which version should i get.. US version(with 1.9ghz) or international(1.6ghz) their performance are really similar?
6) there is any stronger smartphone out now?
6) will the galaxy s4 have wireless charging?
MUSIC:
7) what about music? is there any quality speakers?
8) headphone will be HD/ very good quality.. ? (like in iPhone 5)?
8)

1) the snapdragon is over clocked so is supposed to be faster in cpu but the exynos won't lack behind.
2) for battery of course the exynos since only 4 cores will be running so if ur doing a low use the A7 will be running which are great for battery life and when you kick it to high use that's when the bug guns A15 come in play.
3)for the exynos no because it is not available yet but for the snapdragon it got the twice score of an iphone 5 so that gives a clear answer.
4)i think that would go to the powerVr since the exynos version is expected to be better in Gpu.
5)that depends on you.
6)of course it will but will be optional.
7) the speakers are supposed to be good than the previous models.
8) i am not sure about that but even if they aren't there are always beats.
hope i gave you a clear answer and if there is anything else you would like to know let me know.

Blackwolf10 said:
1) the snapdragon is over clocked so is supposed to be faster in cpu but the exynos won't lack behind.
2) for battery of course the exynos since only 4 cores will be running so if ur doing a low use the A7 will be running which are great for battery life and when you kick it to high use that's when the bug guns A15 come in play.
3)for the exynos no because it is not available yet but for the snapdragon it got the twice score of an iphone 5 so that gives a clear answer.
4)i think that would go to the powerVr since the exynos version is expected to be better in Gpu.
5)that depends on you.
6)of course it will but will be optional.
7) the speakers are supposed to be good than the previous models.
8) i am not sure about that but even if they aren't there are always beats.
hope i gave you a clear answer and if there is anything else you would like to know let me know.
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thanks for taking your time for answering me
do you think exyons 5 will be overclock-able? i hope we will be able to get 1.8ghz or something without losing battery life or something..

yes i think after rooting and few kernel releases you will be able to overclock the Cpu and maybe also the Gpu but why would you need that the exynos on the galaxy s4 is already going to be a beast and it's expected to be in par with the snapdragon and also your welcome

Actually the Exynos is better in every aspect (battery speed and gpu) clock speeds don't mean anything a15s are faster than krait fullstop
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4 core?, I guess its Octo-core Exynos
Well unless you don't use both of them, you can't figure out which one is better.
May be someone may use and let us know.

well even if the exynos is better in every aspect the biggest advantage would still be low task using so its battery saving so everything else is probably the same or little difference and what do you mean clock speeds don't mean anything ?? have you seen the benchmark difference between the galaxy s4 and the htc one ?? and i know the A155 are better than krait that's why the snapdragon is overclocked
@samsingh02 it is octa core but like 4+4 so the 8 cores will never function together it would be like A7 for the low tasks and the A15 when you are on a heavy task like gaming
anyway the thing is the snapdragon is for 4G network and the exynos for the 3G network end of story.

Blackwolf10 said:
well even if the exynos is better in every aspect the biggest advantage would still be low task using so its battery saving so everything else is probably the same or little difference
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I didn't bother to explain it has been done to much and speed is actually a big factor to make a long story short read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
and i know the A155 are better than krait that's why the snapdragon is overclocked
@samsingh02 it is octa core but like 4+4 so the 8 cores will never function together it would be like A7 for the low tasks and the A15 when you are on a heavy task like gaming
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That's the while point
anyway the thing is the snapdragon is for 4G network and the exynos for the 3G network end of story.
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Some benchmarks show Exynos having 4g compatibility
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but that would be the galaxy note 2 exynos 4 because the exynos 5 on the galaxy s4 is not out yet the only exynos 5 is on the nexus 10

Blackwolf10 said:
but that would be the galaxy note 2 exynos 4 because the exynos 5 on the galaxy s4 is not out yet the only exynos 5 is on the nexus 10
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Exynos 5 in the nexus 10 is dual core
But the second part
Where did Exynos 4 come from what are u talking about
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i know it's clocked at 1.7 and i was talking about the note 2 i read in the Xda here that it was available on a carrier in the U.S. with the exynos

You can see here which countries will get the octa core version and which countries will get the Snapdragon version
http://goo.gl/EePDg

B) another question: the octa core version supports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?

darixtorento said:
B) another question: the octa core version upports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
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Just to butt in, doesn't Exynos octa also have LTE support? I want to know what bands it supports.
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Which one do you suggest when buying the S4 .... Snapdragon 600 or Exynos 5 Octa ?

I am planning to buy S4
But I'm not sure which is better
Snapdragon 600
1.9 Ghz
Quad Core Krait 300.
or
Exynos5
1.6 Ghz Octal Core
Quad Core Cortex A15 / Quad Core A7
4g and installing roms is not important to me
Which is better in terms of performance?
Which is better for gaming?
Which is better for battery life?

Octa for all.

tuxonhtc said:
Octa for all.
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why?

an9093 said:
why?
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processor is more stronger rather than spandragon
also exynos version will be global version so you can get update in time
but power vr sgx and adreno 320 is offering same result as a GPU
as a result i recommend you to buy exynos octa 5

any other suggestions?

an9093 said:
I am planning to buy S4
But I'm not sure which is better
Snapdragon 600
1.9 Ghz
Quad Core Krait 300.
or
Exynos5
1.6 Ghz Octal Core
Quad Core Cortex A15 / Quad Core A7
4g and installing roms is not important to me
Which is better in terms of performance?
Which is better for gaming?
Which is better for battery life?
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Performance wise the octa version will win on the CPU side and be on par , gaming the snapdragon will probably win cause it seems to becoming a standard on high end android Devices, battery will also be a tie, where the octa wins in low demanding tasks thanks to its a7, and the s600 win on higher demanding tasks cause the krait consume less then the a15.
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any other suggestions?

an9093 said:
any other suggestions?
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The above suggestions are not enough?
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Exynos 5 sweeps the floor with the snapdragon

nitinvaid said:
The above suggestions are not enough?
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not enough i want more

Blackwolf10 said:
Exynos 5 sweeps the floor with the snapdragon
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what do you mean ?

an9093 said:
what do you mean ?
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better cpu same gpu and better battery life faster updates the only thing snappy beats it is with Aosp rom support and 4G

an9093 said:
what do you mean ?
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Giving Samsung ready to make the sources available, you'd better off with the Snapdragon version because Qualcomm will release their sources well before Samsung does. Consequence:
Development for the i9505 (Snapdragon version) will take off while the Exynos version's development will be slower...
f.

Blackwolf10 said:
better cpu same gpu and better battery life faster updates the only thing snappy beats it is with Aosp rom support and 4G
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Stop saying GPU is same ! Adreno 320 sweeps the floor and even the windows with the ****ing PowerVR !!!
but Octa sweeps the floor with Qualcomm.
Both are important....cpu and gpu. But we have enough CPU in both. What sense makes to have huge CPU if you wouldn't be able to play or use some apps because of the old gpu without OpenGL ES 3.0 ?

demlasjr said:
Stop saying GPU is same ! Adreno 320 sweeps the floor and even the windows with the ****ing PowerVR !!!
but Octa sweeps the floor with Qualcomm.
Both are important....cpu and gpu. But we have enough CPU in both. What sense makes to have huge CPU if you wouldn't be able to play or use some apps because of the old gpu without OpenGL ES 3.0 ?
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you changed ur comment to neutral so i guess i can say that your right but still it's awesome to look like a boss on Antutu benchmarks

Blackwolf10 said:
you changed ur comment to neutral so i guess i can say that your right but still it's awesome to look like a boss on Antutu benchmarks
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Like a boss in Antutu and playing Angry Birds while Snapdragon 600 owners cries for being kings of the hills but playing new and high graphics games.
I found one more things which makes Exynos Octa better. The ram in Exynos is LPPDDR3 at 800MHz, which supports 12.8GB/s bandwidth, while S600 have LPPDDR3 at 600MHz (? not sure) but it's at 9.X GB/s (can't find this information

demlasjr said:
Like a boss in Antutu and playing Angry Birds while Snapdragon 600 owners cries for being kings of the hills but playing new and high graphics games.
I found one more things which makes Exynos Octa better. The ram in Exynos is LPPDDR3 at 800MHz, which supports 12.8GB/s bandwidth, while S600 have LPPDDR3 at 600MHz (? not sure) but it's at 9.X GB/s (can't find this information
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owh and angry birds friends is releasing soon
most of Ram is wasted on S-apps and features anyway and don't forget the wolfson audio chipset for exynos

Blackwolf10 said:
owh and angry birds friends is releasing soon
most of Ram is wasted on S-apps and features anyway and don't forget the wolfson audio chipset for exynos
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I know, even so I'm big fan of Yamaha Grand Piano (I own one), so...if the chip inside the Qualcomm is Yamaha isn't a problem for me.
The only thing that makes me angry about the PowerVR 544MP3 junk is the OpenGL ES 3.0. I'm not 100% what's the importance if it, but i'm sure that soon will be released many games with this support and PowerVR have an OpenGL ES 2.0 api which gives "extended support of OpenGL ES 3.0. However, if you want full 3.0 compliance choose PowerVR 6X Rogue".
WTF is that extended api does ? I want to see a OpenGL ES 3.0 benchmark (GLBenchmark promised to release one) of both, Adreno 320 and PowerVR 544

demlasjr said:
Like a boss in Antutu and playing Angry Birds while Snapdragon 600 owners cries for being kings of the hills but playing new and high graphics games.
I found one more things which makes Exynos Octa better. The ram in Exynos is LPPDDR3 at 800MHz, which supports 12.8GB/s bandwidth, while S600 have LPPDDR3 at 600MHz (? not sure) but it's at 9.X GB/s (can't find this information
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what is the bandwidth and how it makes the Exynos stronger ?

Eyxynos seems to be overheating (see relevant thread in Q&A)
A question once and for all: DOES THE 9500 support LTE/4G or NOT!? Because that's a deciding factor in my purchse. I live in Denmark. I mean definite yes or no should be possible right?
overheating + no LTE will definitely sway me towards the 9505, but it still seems to be too early to tell.

Galaxy Note III ----cpu and gpu

How many type of note 3 cpu and gpu
Which one is gud for performance and battery
Quad core 2.3 or 1.9 or 1.3 as I saw on gsmarena
What about gpu as well
What to choose

Note 3 will have snapdragon 800 cpu @ 2.3 ghz. Some will have the Exynos octa core @ 1.9. I will get the Sprint version so it's snapdragon for me
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nabilsweet007 said:
How many type of note 3 cpu and gpu
Which one is gud for performance and battery
Quad core 2.3 or 1.9 or 1.3 as I saw on gsmarena
What about gpu as well
What to choose
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As the person stated above N3 will come in two processors:
1. Slapdragon 800 @ 2.3 GHz (4 Krait cores- QUAD CORE) with Adreno 330 which can shoot 4k Videos @ 30 FPS.
2. Exynos 5420 with 8 cores- 4 A15 @ 1.9 GHz and 4 A7 @ 1.3 GHz. It will have Mali T628 MP6 GPU. However it wont shoot videos at 4k resolution.
Both of the GPUs will have OpenGL ES 3.0.
These stuffs can, you know, be obtained from top notch tech sites like gsmarena etc and with a quite bit of research hypothetically be answered.
But to answer your last question- it is too early to tell.
1. Lets see how the real world users say about daily usage in terms of Slapdragon 800 and Exynos.
2. Lets see how GSMArena turns out regarding battery endurance.

awesome smartphone

it will be interesting what the snapdragon will do. However its the highest end 800 not the regular 800 so optimalizing will be limited unless that one becomes mainstream. Tricky.
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Why GT-I9505 is faster than GT-I9500 if it's a quad core? And what to check?

Why GT-I9505 is faster than GT-I9500 if it's a quad core? Apparently I'm lucky enough that GT-I9505 is even cheaper than GT-I9500 in the Motherland marketplace.
Also, is there anything that I need to check before purchasing? I can open the box, check what's on it, etc etc before buying it. Is there any fault I should check? Like S2 has few faulty models with bad chipset and you can check that easily before purchasing.

afaik the 9505 model has a Qualcomm 600 or 800, both in my opinion are better than Samsung's octa core. And besides only 4 cores are running at a time on the octa core.

It's more like two quad cores than eight concurrent cores. The one in the i9505 is faster.
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You guys are forgetting 3 things
1.the octa core s4 has a cortex a-15 quad core as the bigger core which is way faster than the Qualcomm one as the Qualcomm one is a9
2.there might be lags in overall animations but benchmark wise the octa core beats the quad core to the ground
3.if u guys really wanna see which ones better.wait for a stable AOSP ROM for i9500 and then compare
Wait n see how smooth n fast the i9500 actually is without Samsung's crapware

varund7726 said:
You guys are forgetting 3 things
1.the octa core s4 has a cortex a-15 quad core as the bigger core which is way faster than the Qualcomm one as the Qualcomm one is a9
2.there might be lags in overall animations but benchmark wise the octa core beats the quad core to the ground
3.if u guys really wanna see which ones better.wait for a stable AOSP ROM for i9500 and then compare
Wait n see how smooth n fast the i9500 actually is without Samsung's crapware
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I9500 is one of Samsung biggest failure, they rushed to launch it with their "octa" core, and they released an unfinished product with flaws.
I9505 it is faster after newer updates, and btw i9505 has OpenGL ES 3.0, i9500 doesn't.
So games will run smoother and with better graphics on Android 4.3+ on the i9505.
They're both great devices, but Samsung really fwcked up with i9500

varund7726 said:
You guys are forgetting 3 things
1.the octa core s4 has a cortex a-15 quad core as the bigger core which is way faster than the Qualcomm one as the Qualcomm one is a9
2.there might be lags in overall animations but benchmark wise the octa core beats the quad core to the ground
3.if u guys really wanna see which ones better.wait for a stable AOSP ROM for i9500 and then compare
Wait n see how smooth n fast the i9500 actually is without Samsung's crapware
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1. yes, octa core has A15 Quad Core, as the big core. but the qualcomm one has Krait cores, based on A15, not A9 .
2. i do not know this, benchmark doesn't reflect real life usage.
3. hope so

varund7726 said:
You guys are forgetting 3 things
1.the octa core s4 has a cortex a-15 quad core as the bigger core which is way faster than the Qualcomm one as the Qualcomm one is a9
2.there might be lags in overall animations but benchmark wise the octa core beats the quad core to the ground
3.if u guys really wanna see which ones better.wait for a stable AOSP ROM for i9500 and then compare
Wait n see how smooth n fast the i9500 actually is without Samsung's crapware
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I lost my trust in Samsung Exynos processor due to the Mali issues in I9300 which make the development of I9300 way slower than the USA's S3. It took CM team so long to get a stable build out of it.
Anyway the good thing about the I9505 over the I9500 and for me even the Note 3 is having a Google Edition. At least porting new Android versions from I9505G to I9505 is easier and faster access to updates.

Dean-xXx said:
I9500 is one of Samsung biggest failure, they rushed to launch it with their "octa" core, and they released an unfinished product with flaws.
I9505 it is faster after newer updates, and btw i9505 has OpenGL ES 3.0, i9500 doesn't.
So games will run smoother and with better graphics on Android 4.3+ on the i9505.
They're both great devices, but Samsung really fwcked up with i9500
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Dude ...adreno 320 GPU doesn't support all features of open gl es3.0
It just does it for namesake
And that GPU is way too old
Whereas powervr 544 is the same one used in phone 5 I guess which is like a 100 times faster than adreno

varund7726 said:
Dude ...adreno 320 the doesn't support all features of open gl es3.0
It just does it for namesake
And that GPU is way too old
Whereas powervr 544 is the same one used in phone 5 I guess which is like a 100 times faster than adreno
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Uhm the Adreno 320 is actually as powerful as the powerVR SGX544 MP3 even if its running at a slightly lower clock speed... Ive hit 21 fps in gfxbench T-Rex and 52 in egypt Offscreen so its definitely not weak... Its also much more power efficient... I can play asphalt 8 using the performance governor for a good 3 hours straight easily...

Dean-xXx said:
I9500 is one of Samsung biggest failure, they rushed to launch it with their "octa" core, and they released an unfinished product with flaws.
I9505 it is faster after newer updates, and btw i9505 has OpenGL ES 3.0, i9500 doesn't.
So games will run smoother and with better graphics on Android 4.3+ on the i9505.
They're both great devices, but Samsung really fwcked up with i9500
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Qualcomm's processors sucks monkey balls. Its the GPU that is pretty that too only at supporting new APIs.
Imagination have pushed an API Extension which will enable OpenGL ES 3.0 key features.
http://www.imgtec.com/News/Release/index.asp?NewsID=717

varund7726 said:
Dude ...adreno 320 GPU doesn't support all features of open gl es3.0
It just does it for namesake
And that GPU is way too old
Whereas powervr 544 is the same one used in phone 5 I guess which is like a 100 times faster than adreno
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The GPU in the iPhone 5 is the PowerVR SGX 543MP3 not 544
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Hazerm said:
The GPU in the iPhone 5 is the PowerVR SGX 543MP3 not 544
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ya the 544 is a version higher
but still
have u seen the gaming performance on it??!wayy better than the adreno...

varund7726 said:
ya the 544 is a version higher
but still
have u seen the gaming performance on it??!wayy better than the adreno...
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If you're talking about the gaming performance on the iPhone 5 compared to the adreno, forget it. IOS has more optimised gaming apps and I'm not too sure if you can get 60fps on the octa core S4 in asphalt 8 either. Hmmmm...
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galaxy s5 900H - performance GPU

Hi,
After the last update (android 6.0.1) has greatly increased performance GPU (mali t628 mp6) , Why? It is even better than Adreno 330.

Bro...what r u asking...i cant get u

G900h has exynos and is the better phone performance wise what are you asking though
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[email protected] said:
G900h has exynos and is the better phone performance wise what are you asking though
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It isn't. The GPU adreno 330 is 60% faster then the one in exynos version.

htb2050 said:
It isn't. The GPU adreno 330 is 60% faster then the one in exynos version.
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it's not true. After the last update (android 6.0.1) increased performance GPU. Just look at the results GFXbench. Now are the same as adreno 330 or better.

kubussz said:
it's not true. After the last update (android 6.0.1) increased performance GPU. Just look at the results GFXbench. Now are the same as adreno 330 or better.
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No they aren't. Drivers don't increase hardware performance. You can't say that a chip from 2 years ago could be made to run as fast as one released today.

htb2050 said:
No they aren't. Drivers don't increase hardware performance. You can't say that a chip from 2 years ago could be made to run as fast as one released today.
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I do not compare mali t628 to today chip, only for adreno 330. The fact is that the update (android 6.0.1) performance increased. On android(kitkat) were much lower scores in GFXbeanch. I have galaxy s5 900H and it is checked.

kubussz said:
I do not compare mali t628 to today chip, only for adreno 330. The fact is that the update (android 6.0.1) performance increased. On android(kitkat) were much lower scores in GFXbeanch. I have galaxy s5 900H and it is checked.
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Maybe you didn't understand. Adreno 330 is faster because of hardware, not because of software. Mali is lower because its hardware is inferior to 330. Those are physical facts that can't be changed by anyone.

htb2050 said:
Maybe you didn't understand. Adreno 330 is faster because of hardware, not because of software. Mali is lower because its hardware is inferior to 330. Those are physical facts that can't be changed by anyone.
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GFXbench results testify to something else. These are the facts, you can check!
I do not understand how to better hardware? if the results (GFXbench) tell a different story