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Hi guys,
I recently purchased two G2's over the weekend for my wife and I and overall I am pretty impressed with it. We both unfortunately got loose hinges with ours that we may worry about getting fixed later but our big concerns are sound.
I used my speakerphone a lot and while I read the sound was tinny I was rather shocked once I used it. Not only is it tinny but the sound cuts in and out with the volume pegged. My CDMA Hero sounded much better and achieved a higher output.
Also the headphone jack seems overly bass filled and muffled. I used my pandora a lot played through my car stereo and this newer uber phone sounds worse than my hero. Have any of you experienced similar things? Are these problems a firmware update can fix or is it hardware related?
We love the G2 but the audio quality might be a deal breaker. Have 12 days to decide.
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EDIT: I guess I jumped the gun, should've guessed that there was more coming... my bad.
Revised! Reviews showed the same experience with the speakerphone; unfortunately it's something we'll all have to deal with. There might be apps made to adjust sound ouput, but I believe it's mainly the hardware.
As for the headphone jack, I can't speak from any personal experience, but my audiophile of a friend simply uses a more powerful music app to adjust the sound to very fine details. I can't recall the app, but give that a shot.
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Finger hit submit button before I was even started lol.
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I agree with you on the speakerphone, but I was expecting this from experience with my N1.
As for the audio quality, I've found it to be much much better than my N1 as it was rather lacking in the bass department on the freq response graph and in the upper ends, though my headphones naturally make it flat. The G2 sounds much closer to a flat EQ, but it could be me and my headphones again.
Also, I believe the music app in question is MixZing as it is the only one out there with an EQ built in.
the speakerphone does leave something to be desired but it seems like after a week or so, it breaks into a more acceptable quality (not great but not terrible or a dealbreaker). As for the headphone jack, I've only used it with my grado sr80i so it sounds amazing as always =)
I read a few complaints about the speakers before I even recieved the phone. When I tried it out once I got it, I can't really hear a difference between the G2's speakerphone and the Slides. They both sound similar to me. I don't really have any complaints. Maybe I'm just getting old...
I had a BB9700 and all I have to say is that HTC speakerphones are HORRIBLE!
I love my new G2 but the speakers are probably one of the biggest turnoffs
I think I'm going to go back to my Samsung vibrant.
that phone was great.
I will miss the keyboard though
I'm not really one to use the speaker, but I did have some times having it on while listening to Pandora. I can't compare the quality to anything else, but I'm having no issues with it.
I just need another pair of Bose in-ear headphones and I'll be set! Last one, the wires toward the jack got loose and the sound is abysmal. Two years of service though.
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I love this phone but omg, the speaker does S U C K ! My tp2 had a rockin speaker. I was playing with it earlier and man the sound it put out while playing music. Wish phone makers would stay with what's good. Put that speaker hardware in here? That'll be somethin.
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scrizz said:
I think I'm going to go back to my Samsung vibrant.
that phone was great.
I will miss the keyboard though
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The speaker on the G2 is awful, might be a dealbreaker. I'm tempted to switch to the Vibrant as well. My husband has the Vibrant and his video and speaker playback is outstanding, makes my G2 speakers sound like a screech box
I gotta say I was disappointed with my speakers on the G1... I'm a little disappionted with the speakers on this phone too.
I'll have to say that I like the G2 sound quality allot better than the G1 for sure. I am hearing impaired (but not completely deaf). The default ringer is waay louder and I am impressed that I can hear my phone further than I could with the G1! Before, people would tell me my phone is ringing when when i don't feel the vibrations for some reason.
As for the phone jack. It did make me smile when using it with my FM modulator in my car. My car stock system isn't that great to begin with but at near max volume, my speakers sounded distorted with the G1 (thought it was the FM transition). But with the G2, I noticed that it seems to 'bump' allot better at near high volume.. it seems to rock for me
Now I am not saying that the G2 is all that as for sounds, just that it is noticeably better than the G1 as according to my ears. I have not tried it as a speaker phone but most phones seem to suck at that to me anyhow.
I don't get it.
Try and follow the logic.
You want to hear some good quality music...
so you decide to use a cellphone's built in speaker instead of an audiophile headphone or portable speakers.
What is the point?
I mean, first of all, if you want to listen to HQ music on anything other than a dedicated mp3 player (iPod does NOT count, I'm talking about something like Samsung YP-P2 or YP-P3, or the Cowon S9), it is absolute redundant.
I can't even eloquently express my confusion at you people.
Like, obviously the cell phone speakers are naturally gonna be shiet compared to real ones, or even small little portable ones for that matter.
So if you use them, of course it is gonna be ****ty, so why complain?
And if you really do want high quality music, then you wouldn't be using a cellphone for media playback nor using the built in speakers to do the job.
It's like saying, oh man, this Toyota Corolla does soooo bad on the racing track.
Lol. Because complaining is fun, I guess.
I remember the ads for the desire hd claiming that it had "quality stereo sound." Anybody taken a test listen?
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Ok. There's some of us that aren't audiophiles. So we resort to our phones speaker. Of course you can't expect great ear busting speakers but I mean CMON! Htcs giving us what seems like desire hds blown out garbage. Not cool bro
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I wish they would start putting the speakers on the side, because its quite pointless to have the audio from a video or a game pointed away from you.
If you had a Touch Pro 2 before the Desire Z/ G2, you would understand the reason why I complain. I am not too fussed about the sound quality, It is the output that is too low both on the speaker and through the earphones.
lombardo8 said:
If you had a Touch Pro 2 before the Desire Z/ G2, you would understand the reason why I complain. I am not too fussed about the sound quality, It is the output that is too low both on the speaker and through the earphones.
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Aren't there kernels available for your phone that increase Max volume? And dsp manager works for eq. Dunno if dsp is in market, or just on the forum. Most roms I flash for my Evo come with it, and the kernels I flash come with audio gain.
Sorry, I haven't checked your guys forum, just accidentally stumbled across this thread.
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lombardo8 said:
If you had a Touch Pro 2 before the Desire Z/ G2, you would understand the reason why I complain. I am not too fussed about the sound quality, It is the output that is too low both on the speaker and through the earphones.
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I have to agree a bit here. I'm no audiophile, but enjoy listening to music. I don't expect any super high quality from a cell phone speaker. But you don't have to be an audiophile to notice the speaker quality is not great. And the main reason others complain is that other cell phones do it better. The HTC Touch Pro 2 is a very similar phone in many ways (same manufacturer, similar size, some of the same features like the landscape hardware keyboard) but has a somewhat better sounding speaker. So HTC did it better before. The Vision is a step forward in so many ways, but a slight step backward in terms of the speaker. And the sound quality applies to the speaker phone, not just playing music.
Although I would stop short of actually "complaining" about the speaker quality. Its still pretty adequate for the times I want to listen to music or use the speaker phone, and can't (or don't want to) connect to an external speaker or headphones. It doesn't really detract much at all from the fact that I absolutely love my Desire Z!
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Aren't there kernels available for your phone that increase Max volume? And dsp manager works for eq. Dunno if dsp is in market, or just on the forum. Most roms I flash for my Evo come with it, and the kernels I flash come with audio gain.
Sorry, I haven't checked your guys forum, just accidentally stumbled across this thread.
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The speaker already sounds pretty tinny when the volume is maxed out. I don't know if increasing the max volume would do much, but distort the sound even more. But a decent equalizer might make the speaker at least sound better. DSP Manager is not a market app, it needs to be flashed. And I've read posts that the flashable DSP Manager doesn't work on the Vision. You either have to flash a custom ROM that includes it, or possibly do some heavy tinkering to get DSP Manager to work.
Its not really a speaker to begin with.
ITS A RINGER!!!
Its purpose is to make a NOISE that you can identify as the PHONE RINGING. That is ALL.
dhkr123 said:
Its not really a speaker to begin with.
ITS A RINGER!!!
Its purpose is to make a NOISE that you can identify as the PHONE RINGING. That is ALL.
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Uh, no. Smartphones for years have had speakers designed for playing music and for use as a speakerphone. Even most dumbphones have a speaker for speakerphone use. Obviously the small size is not meant to replace larger speakers. But its decent to use for playing music. Just not as good as many other phones.
when i use speaker phone they arent loud enough sometimes
when i use the phone normally to my ear the speaker isnt loud enough sometimes
any other questions?
not everyone is complaining about the "playing music" aspect.
redpoint73 said:
Uh, no. Smartphones for years have had speakers designed for playing music and for use as a speakerphone. Even most dumbphones have a speaker for speakerphone use. Obviously the small size is not meant to replace larger speakers. But its decent to use for playing music. Just not as good as many other phones.
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No, it isn't. Its a RINGER. NOTHING MORE.
dhkr123 said:
No, it isn't. Its a RINGER. NOTHING MORE.
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You think just saying something in caps magically makes it fact?
The phone is equipped with a speakerphone, therefore its a speaker. You're the only one here that thinks its a "ringer".
You can call it whatever you want. Doesn't change the fact that other phones have better sounding "ringers" including the past generation of similar HTC phone.
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No, it isn't. Its a RINGER. NOTHING MORE.
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What exactly is a ringer? Is this another term for a buzzer (like a piezoelectric or magnetic) that I'm not familiar with?
The last time I heard the term ringer as it applied to a design component was for the old mechanical bell ringers used in landline phones (a long time ago). And as far as I know, landline phones nowadays all use tone ringer circuitry connected to either a buzzer or a speaker. Also, buzzers cannot be used to produce music (they require a square wave to produce noise as opposed to the sine waves used by speakers).
I was also under the impression that all modern cell phones used a speaker (just with varying degrees of cost/quality of the speaker itself and the type of amplification circuitry used, if any at all).
For me, I'm complaining about the lack of volume when using the speakerphone in call. Music wise, it doesn't bother me, but phone call wise, it does.
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The speakers on the Galaxy S phones are actually good for audio/video playback.
They have to do something good....
I too noticed that my G1 had a far better loudspeaker, in both quality and volume once rooted and using Audiohack. The G2 speaker at about 3/4ths volume starts to sound like the speaker is blown. I tried everything and nothing seems to help this.
Try calling 611 for tmobile and put it on loudspeaker, I can almost guarantee it will be just about useless at anything over half. It is noticeably worse for actual conversation as opposed to music, but even music is far worse than the previous androids I've owned.
Any word on a physical mod to improve this?
Gigamaster89 said:
The speakers on the Galaxy S phones are actually good for audio/video playback.
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blunted09 said:
They have to do something good....
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They do. Hardware components. AMOLED Screens, decent speakers, Gorilla glass, great chips/GPUs. They just can't program for ****. Nor can they design an original looking phone - er, hello iPhone 3G/Samsung Galaxy S. Even their latest Galaxy Cooper is a blatant copy of the iPhone 4.
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The speakers on the Galaxy S phones are actually good for audio/video playback.
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Yes. Hardware wise you can't get anything better than a galaxy S. Software wise they suck If it wasn't for XDA they'd be worthless light bricks
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Hi. I haven't received my nexus yet, so I'm wondering how loud the speaker on the back of the phone is in comparison to phones such as the sgs3. I got an Inc s atm, so I'm sure the LG couldn't be any worse HTC have the worst speakers...
Cant' comment on it compared to SGS3 but compare to my galaxy nexus it is a big improvement in sound level and bass
I can't compare to the SGS3, but compared to my HTC vivid, the speaker on this is LOUD! So much so, on the vivid, my settings for volume were maxed and with the N4, they're a little over half way up.
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before this phone, i had a EVO3D and this thing BLOWS IT OUT OF THE WATER!
its pretty darn loud in my opinion...
pretty loud. don't need any volume hacks like the galaxy nexus.
Thanks for those replies guys. Let's face it, though. HTC phones, and the gnex had a bad speaker. I want to know how this phone's speaker compares to a decent phone's.
E3SEL said:
Thanks for those replies guys. Let's face it, though. HTC phones, and the gnex had a bad speaker. I want to know how this phone's speaker compares to a decent phone's.
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well GN speaker was fine, just needed to be tuned up. it was fixed eventually in a OTA. software bug, wasn't hardware related.
speaker won't be any problems on the N4.
I just did a side by side comparison, the s3 speaker is slightly louder but a lot more clear sounding than the nexus 4.
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I am hoping that the nexus 4 is comparable to the s3 in loudness,love being able to listen to podcasts while taking a shower without resorting to using an external speaker.Putting the phone in a box works wonders wonders too when wanting to do this.why people listen to music with thier phones speaker is just madness to me.After a few minutes of a song i really miss the low end and go back to podcasts or just turn it off. I must say that the S3 speaker is quite good even for music and most of the spectrum of the music is audible.It is such a step up in loudness from the S2.
Alternatively you can try Volume+ which is a app that worked for me on the Galaxy Nexus. It should work on 4.2 as it did on my GN.
Give it a try and see whether or not it actually boosts your music (play it in background and boost it, see if volume goes up).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23326705 or register http://androidaudiohacks.com/ on his forums for a newer version.
ratm183 said:
I just did a side by side comparison, the s3 speaker is slightly louder but a lot more clear sounding than the nexus 4.
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Thanks for that. As long as it's not too bad, I don't mind. The s3 has quite a good speaker for a smartphone, I think. For some reason phone manufacturers have forgotten that the speaker is a very important part to the phone, and have started putting the worst speakers on phones.
ReznakMoReznak said:
I am hoping that the nexus 4 is comparable to the s3 in loudness,love being able to listen to podcasts while taking a shower without resorting to using an external speaker.Putting the phone in a box works wonders wonders too when wanting to do this.why people listen to music with thier phones speaker is just madness to me.After a few minutes of a song i really miss the low end and go back to podcasts or just turn it off. I must say that the S3 speaker is quite good even for music and most of the spectrum of the music is audible.It is such a step up in loudness from the S2.
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It's not for music, I like a loud speaker so I can actually hear my phone ringing, and so I can hear things such as videos clearly. Of course, sometimes for music playback if I want to hear a new song or show someone a song.
Compared to the SG3 I think you get better quality sound on the SG3. The nexus 4 is loud but it depends on the quality of the sound file, the only thing I'm finding really annoying about the nexus 4 is how weak the vibrate motor is.. I have missed a lot of notifications because of this, I'm using franco kernel and you can increase the vibrate setting but I still find it lacking at least for me.
Quite loud, as long as it's not resting on a flat surface
Its loud enough to hear that young jeezy clearly lol...but great volume on the N4 my man...
I noticed that during loud crashes and explosion, the galaxy s4 speakers distorts while my s3 didn't. It seems like it has much more treble which seems to be what's causing the distortion. Anyone else notice the difference in sounds or is mine damaged out of the box?
This is only with the volume maxed.
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I noticed that during loud crashes and explosion, the galaxy s4 speakers distorts while my s3 didn't. It seems like it has much more treble which seems to be what's causing the distortion. Anyone else notice the difference in sounds or is mine damaged out of the box?
This is only with the volume maxed.
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The speaker is different i know. When i put my text tones on it, they sound like its more stereo but also in like a box or hall with some echo which i think is what causes the distortion.
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The speaker is different i know. When i put my text tones on it, they sound like its more stereo but also in like a box or hall with some echo which i think is what causes the distortion.
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Well, thanks for the response, if they made it that way then there is nothing I can do about it. I just wanted to make sure that mine wasn't broken.
I think the speaker phone sounds awesome.
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it does sound awesome but compared to the SIII it does sound different. mine sounds like it echos for some things and then others it sounds incredible. i think its the bass and treble settings.
I think that they only tested it out for music. It sounds great during most music but any loud explosions or crashes is where the increased treble is the culprit. I wish there was an equalizer type setting where I could lower the treble.
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I think that they only tested it out for music. It sounds great during most music but any loud explosions or crashes is where the increased treble is the culprit. I wish there was an equalizer type setting where I could lower the treble.
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Once the custom roms get going/they make them compatible with our device, I'm sure with DSP manager or Awesome Beats or any of the other sounds mods, you will be able edit the various sound options to your liking!
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Speaker is the same as sgs3 to me
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I think the speakers are terrible. I switched from iPhone 4S to the GS4, and the GS4 sounds quiet and muffled.
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Lol, are you guys actually complaining about the sound quality of the built-in speaker during movies? It's not even designed to have the frequency response of a pair of $5 headphones, much less reproducing accurate explosions and crashes. Think about it, you have a tiny speaker that is pushing out sound loud enough to where you can actually hear it well enough from far away. It's there for one reason only, to have to ability to do a hands-free phone call.
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Lol, are you guys actually complaining about the sound quality of the built-in speaker during movies? It's not even designed to have the frequency response of a pair of $5 headphones, much less reproducing accurate explosions and crashes. Think about it, you have a tiny speaker that is pushing out sound loud enough to where you can actually hear it well enough from far away. It's there for one reason only, to have to ability to do a hands-free phone call.
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If you are going to respond to a 1 year old topic at least make sure that your response is somewhat relevant. This was made in comparison with the galaxy SIII. I was just making sure that my speaker wasn't broken. There was only one guy here comparing it to a ****ty iphone.
The guy before you doesn't even deserve a response. Since I'm commenting here, I'm sure that they messed with the sound on one of it's many updates as it doesn't distort anymore.
Hi friends. I noticed something today. I record a video in a silent room, just me and my wife. After recording I started to watch and noticed that there is no sound until one of us speaks. There is a sound cut in the video. No background sounds until someone speaks and when someone speaks I can hear all the voices. What can cause this problem? I tried it with lenovo super camera app, stock camera app and moded camera app and all of them has the problem. I tried it with my friends G2 and the result is same. No sound until someone speaks. BUt it is normal when the tv was open or there are much peaople talking in the place. Anyone noticed something like that?
It sounds like noise suppression is working to me.. compared to my One, I think it's great. I have 2 toddlers and this phone does a great job at blocking background noise during conversation.
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same problem here with the sound on video recorded.Mybe someone will find a solution for this issue.
yes I too have same problem. The sound keeps cutting in and out whenever there is no talking or loud noises going on. The mic picks up sounds great, especially voices. But ambient sounds are very hard to hear with all the sound cut outs and background noises. Maybe just some faulty units, or something that needs to be addressed in a future update just like on the Moto x.
Nexus 5 has same issues, read a long thread about it this morning. I have the same problem when recording audio, almost like an underwater sounding effect. I think it has to do with the LG noise cancellation algorithm. Not sure of a fix, only thing I don't like about the G2 so far. On the Nexus 5 some folks adjusted the build.prop to turn off noise cancellation if they were rooted and it seemed to work. Not sure how to do that though.
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