I checked this but I did not find it asked/answered here, I kept getting results of other devices.
I am running this modification my G2 and it seems to get hot pretty quickly. I have a case on it and I can feel the heat very easily, gauge is reading 103*F. I know this may not be too hot for other devices, I read 107 or more, but what is the safe temp?
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hydeah said:
I checked this but I did not find it asked/answered here, I kept getting results of other devices.
I am running this modification my G2 and it seems to get hot pretty quickly. I have a case on it and I can feel the heat very easily, gauge is reading 103*F. I know this may not be too hot for other devices, I read 107 or more, but what is the safe temp?
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thats only 39C its hot but not dangerously hot. 50C+ is when you need to get worry
you better off install a rom and wootever kernel and UV its...I rarely reach 35C
G1_enthusiast said:
thats only 39C its hot but not dangerously hot. 50C+ is when you need to get worry
you better off install a rom and wootever kernel and UV its...I rarely reach 35C
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The phone never felt this hot before, this happened when I was trying Asphalt game.
I am not rooted, it is running all stock, with most stock bloatware already stopped.
hydeah said:
The phone never felt this hot before, this happened when I was trying Asphalt game.
I am not rooted, it is running all stock, with most stock bloatware already stopped.
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so all the other time you play asphalt it never got that hot?
did u play it with a case all the other times?
could be background process running along with your game causing it to be hot.
G1_enthusiast said:
so all the other time you play asphalt it never got that hot?
did u play it with a case all the other times?
could be background process running along with your game causing it to be hot.
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Since I downloaded it today was the only day I played this long (just 3 races in a row and some browsing here and there on the game screen, that's all) so I don't have any comparison data but I was just curious as to why it got hot so fast. It never felt this hot (hot enough for me to check the temperature) doing anything else, except maybe when I ran 4-5 benchmark apps in a row, I remember it felt pretty warm back then too but cooled down quickly. Also I did not hold the phone on hand when tests were running..
hydeah said:
Since I downloaded it today was the only day I played this long (just 3 races in a row and some browsing here and there on the game screen, that's all) so I don't have any comparison data but I was just curious as to why it got hot so fast. It never felt this hot (hot enough for me to check the temperature) doing anything else, except maybe when I ran 4-5 benchmark apps in a row, I remember it felt pretty warm back then too but cooled down quickly. Also I did not hold the phone on hand when tests were running..
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were u charging at the same time?
G1_enthusiast said:
were u charging at the same time?
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Nope, it wasn't charging.
hydeah said:
Nope, it wasn't charging.
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just try it again, if it get hotter than 40C then your thermal paste might be ****ty and might have to return. if it kept stay around that temperature then your fine. I wouldnt worry about it, but like i said, i rarely get up there.
G1_enthusiast said:
just try it again, if it get hotter than 40C then your thermal paste might be ****ty and might have to return. if it kept stay around that temperature then your fine. I wouldnt worry about it, but like i said, i rarely get up there.
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Thanks, I am going to give it another run tomorrow after it is fully charged at %100 I am going to play the game for about 10-15 minutes report back with temp.
Then I will let it cool off, close all unnecessary applications and then try again and report back.
Is this actually battery temp or processor temp? I assume it is processor because the hot portion is actually top, right around the camera. Should I be checking any other temp gauges?
What rom are you running? I wanted to root and run a rom, but it seems like all roms are either nightlies or release candidates, there isn't even a stable 4.2 rom for G2 D800.
Edit:
I just saw CM 10.2 has finally been released as stable but there are still some reports of serious bugs, and a poster said this should be final before development on CM 11 begins.
Hi,
Do not confuse CPU temperature and battery temperature... Here guys (at least hydeah) you are talking about battery temperature, not CPU temperature.
40/45 °C for battery is not abnormal, an average 70 °C for the CPU temperature is not abnormal when you are playing games for example. In any case there is a thermal throttling to prevent a real overheating...
And according to the Thermal files in /system/etc the max battery temperature is 52/54 °C (and 120 °C for the CPU before shutdown)...
These threads about temperature bother me, even all the threads wich reports "overheating" are all expect real overheating, but only misinformation or whatsoever...
Guys you have a quadcore at 2,26 Ghz... what do you expect playing an heavy games 30 °C CPU temperature and 20 °C battery temperature???
With this mod (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479892) it's normal that your phone runs a bit warmer, the max CPU temperature before thermal throttling is increased to 70 °C...
But in any case the thermal throttling still exists...
There is plenty of thread like this one, use the search function and you will see that your temperature is normal.
Do the conversion for the degrees fahrenheit
viking37 said:
Hi,
Do not confuse CPU temperature and battery temperature... Here guys (at least hydeah) you are talking about battery temperature, not CPU temperature.
40/45 °C for battery is not abnormal, an average 70 °C for the CPU temperature is not abnormal when you are playing games for example. In any case there is a thermal throttling to prevent a real overheating...
And according to the Thermal files in /system/etc the max battery temperature is 52/54 °C (and 120 °C for the CPU before shutdown)...
These threads about temperature bother me, even all the threads wich reports "overheating" are all expect real overheating, but only misinformation or whatsoever...
Guys you have a quadcore at 2,26 Ghz... what do you expect playing an heavy games 30 °C CPU temperature and 20 °C battery temperature???
With this mod (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479892) it's normal that your phone runs a bit warmer, the max CPU temperature before thermal throttling is increased to 70 °C...
But in any case the thermal throttling still exists...
There is plenty of thread like this one, use the search function and you will see that your temperature is normal.
Do the conversion for the degrees fahrenheit
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Thanks, what do you recommend to read both cpu and battery temperatures?
I did use search function, but like I said there were a lot of threads on other devices/models so I wasn't sure if they would apply to this particular device.
120*C? Won't things start melting and boiling at that temp?
hydeah said:
Thanks, what do you recommend to read both cpu and battery temperatures?
I did use search function, but like I said there were a lot of threads on other devices/models so I wasn't sure if they would apply to this particular device.
120*C? Won't things start melting and boiling at that temp?
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I use Trickster Mod, you can try this one too: Temp+CPU PRO, System Tuner, etc...
But with these apps understand that you have a range CPU temperature, it won't be exactly the temperature at 1 °C precision. Maybe you'll see 70 °C in reality the exact and real temperature will be 68 or 71 °C for example...
Yep, high temperature limit and confirmed from a kernel dev (the "old" Samsung Galaxy Nexus have 110 °C as max CPU temp before shutdown for example, I push it to 100 °C max ), it's the internal CPU temperature. But I guess it's (almost impossible) to go so high, the thermal throttling is present to do its job before...
viking37 said:
I use Trickster Mod, you can try this one too: Temp+CPU PRO, System Tuner, etc...
But with these apps understand that you have a range CPU temperature, it won't be exactly the temperature at 1 °C precision. Maybe you'll see 70 °C in reality the exact and real temperature will be 68 or 71 °C for example...
Yep, high temperature limit and confirmed from a kernel dev (the "old" Samsung Galaxy Nexus have 110 °C as max CPU temp before shutdown for example, I push it to 100 °C max ), it's the internal CPU temperature. But I guess it's (almost impossible) to go so high, the thermal throttling is present to do its job before...
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Merci beaucoup monsieur.
Too much work at the office, couldn't run the tests today, will do it tonight.
the G2 will start thermal throttling when its core cpu thermostat hits 150 degrees.
hydeah said:
Thanks, what do you recommend to read both cpu and battery temperatures?
I did use search function, but like I said there were a lot of threads on other devices/models so I wasn't sure if they would apply to this particular device.
120*C? Won't things start melting and boiling at that temp?
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the G2 will start thermal throttling when its core cpu thermostat hits 150 degrees. Which sucks because most benchmarks will get your CPU up around 160-170° It lowers the clock speed to 1958mhz at first then if needed as low as 1152mhz to prevent damage.
viking37 said:
Hi,
Do not confuse CPU temperature and battery temperature... Here guys (at least hydeah) you are talking about battery temperature, not CPU temperature.
40/45 °C for battery is not abnormal, an average 70 °C for the CPU temperature is not abnormal when you are playing games for example. In any case there is a thermal throttling to prevent a real overheating...
And according to the Thermal files in /system/etc the max battery temperature is 52/54 °C (and 120 °C for the CPU before shutdown)...
These threads about temperature bother me, even all the threads wich reports "overheating" are all expect real overheating, but only misinformation or whatsoever...
Guys you have a quadcore at 2,26 Ghz... what do you expect playing an heavy games 30 °C CPU temperature and 20 °C battery temperature???
With this mod (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479892) it's normal that your phone runs a bit warmer, the max CPU temperature before thermal throttling is increased to 70 °C...
But in any case the thermal throttling still exists...
There is plenty of thread like this one, use the search function and you will see that your temperature is normal.
Do the conversion for the degrees fahrenheit
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Thank you for this useful information!
Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk
Can anybody confirm that the CPU throttles the frequency at 70 degrees C even after disabling thermal throttling?
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i want to discuss the overlock or underlocking the cpu
so whats the effect on heat generated ????
overlock increase heat or dcrease heat ??
and is undervolting helps to decrease heat generated from the processor ??
many tests mentioned that overlock 1.6 is stable and undervolting scale (200-800) is also stable but non of the testers mentioned the heat effect all are reporting for stability and speed
i suffer from heat during hd games and i know it is normal but i dont want the phone to get hot during gaming i closes the game after around 30 minutes due to this problem
If you want to reduce heat during gaming, then you need to change the 1.2GHz speed (level 0) down to either 1.0GHz or 800MHz. Changing the Level 1 to Level 4 speeds won't solve your problem since your CPU will be at full speed Level 0 during gaming.
Sleepycat3 said:
If you want to reduce heat during gaming, then you need to change the 1.2GHz speed (level 0) down to either 1.0GHz or 800MHz. Changing the Level 1 to Level 4 speeds won't solve your problem since your CPU will be at full speed Level 0 during gaming.
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srry i dont understand what will make the processor return to full speed 1.2 during gaming ?? if i set it to 1000 or 800 ???
Sleepycat3 said:
If you want to reduce heat during gaming, then you need to change the 1.2GHz speed (level 0) down to either 1.0GHz or 800MHz. Changing the Level 1 to Level 4 speeds won't solve your problem since your CPU will be at full speed Level 0 during gaming.
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No that's just bull****. Go play around a few games and have CPU Spy running and after a gamsing session check the CPU states, rarely does a game go over 800MHz and most of the time spent is on 500MHz for most games. There aren't any games out there that need the computational power of higher frequencies and that's why their time-in-state is procentually so low.
If you really want to reduce heat, then you need to undervolt your GPU which right now is only possible with a Tegrak compatible kernel, which is frankly speaking out of date, or you wait a few weeks until the Ninphetamine team finishes GPU voltage control interface and then more kernels will be able to implement that.
While undervolting with Tegrak I was running 160MHz/750mV 266MHz/750mV full stable (default voltage 950/1000mV, 750 was minimum configurable). It was running full stable and while on default the back of the phone would get really hot, while undervolted it was just warm to the touch.
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No that's just bull****. Go play around a few games and have CPU Spy running and after a gamsing session check the CPU states, rarely does a game go over 800MHz and most of the time spent is on 500MHz for most games. There aren't any games out there that need the computational power of higher frequencies and that's why their time-in-state is procentually so low.
If you really want to reduce heat, then you need to undervolt your GPU which right now is only possible with a Tegrak compatible kernel, which is frankly speaking out of date, or you wait a few weeks until the Ninphetamine team finishes GPU voltage control interface and then more kernels will be able to implement that.
While undervolting with Tegrak I was running 160MHz/750mV 266MHz/750mV full stable (default voltage 950/1000mV, 750 was minimum configurable). It was running full stable and while on default the back of the phone would get really hot, while undervolted it was just warm to the touch.
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so is there any effect on device performance ????
after undervolting the hd games performs properly as stock ?? and without heat ?? if yess i will root now and see what can i do
and how can i know that my kernel is tegrak compatible ?? it is kg2
Changing voltage has no effect on performance unless you undervolt into unstable values and make it crash. Stock should be compatible with Tegrak (I think???). Just check out the free app in the market. The stupid thing is you need to pay for the full version to get GPU control and that's why it's unpopular, so maybe it's just better to wait for Ninphetamine GPU control in a couple of weeks or soonish and have it for free and get a good kernel to go with it.
AndreiLux said:
Changing voltage has no effect on performance unless you undervolt into unstable values and make it crash. Stock should be compatible with Tegrak (I think???). Just check out the free app in the market. The stupid thing is you need to pay for the full version to get GPU control and that's why it's unpopular, so maybe it's just better to wait for Ninphetamine GPU control in a couple of weeks or soonish and have it for free and get a good kernel to go with it.
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thanks bro
but i think i have small thing that confuse me undervolting is different from downlock ??
and what is the relation between them ??? i think certain volt will give related amount of "Mhz" ?? is that right ??? so set cpu is the same effect as tegrak or what ??
srry im new to android
xdafun4all said:
thanks bro
but i think i have small thing that confuse me undervolting is different from downlock ??
and what is the relation between them ??? i think certain volt will give related amount of "Mhz" ?? is that right ??? so set cpu is the same effect as tegrak or what ??
srry im new to android
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Tegrak, basically gives you more options such as GPU clocking and custom tweaks. SetCPU is ok, but I just use it for controlling clock speeds. Also, you can set oc'ing, max at 2GHZ, but you have to play around with stuff.
Use a very thin case and you'll never notice.
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AndreiLux said:
No that's just bull****. Go play around a few games and have CPU Spy running and after a gamsing session check the CPU states, rarely does a game go over 800MHz and most of the time spent is on 500MHz for most games. There aren't any games out there that need the computational power of higher frequencies and that's why their time-in-state is procentually so low.
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Sure. I just fired up Plants vs Zombies, which is not the world's most demanding Android game and played 1 quick game, taking about 10 minutes. While playing, the back of the phone just where the camera is became warm through the phone case! Tell me why I have the phone running at 1200MHz for such a big portion of time if my post is just bull****. This was also the Last Stand level, where you get a pause in the middle of the attacks to replant.
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Sure. I just fired up Plants vs Zombies, which is not the world's most demanding Android game and played 1 quick game, taking about 10 minutes. While playing, the back of the phone just where the camera is became warm through the phone case! Tell me why I have the phone running at 1200MHz for such a big portion of time if my post is just bull****. This was also the Last Stand level, where you get a pause in the middle of the attacks to replant.
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35% of time on full speed does not equal all the time on full speed like you said in your first post. It's still 50% on either 800 or 500MHz like I said. And you took a bad example as I dont even know if PvsZ is even using properly the GPU, and then might use only the CPU. Go play Gameloft HD games which are the most demanding atm and max CPU ratio to the rest falls down.
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35% of time on full speed does not equal all the time on full speed like you said in your first post. It's still 50% on either 800 or 500MHz like I said. And you took a bad example as I dont even know if PvsZ is even using properly the GPU, and then might use only the CPU. Go play Gameloft HD games which are the most demanding atm and max CPU ratio to the rest falls down.
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so what ??? at the end undervolting will help or not ???
i need it for hd games
and if the cpu need to be at 50% of time so it need to use 1200 mhz 50 of time so if we fixed it to 800 or 1000 or 500 this will affect performance
no heat issues
I have ninphetamine kernel, underclocked to 800 and undervolted, I haven't noticed any heat issues since then when playing games and noticed no slow downs. Games tried: HeavyGunner, Zenonia 3. Also no heat issues anymore when playing flash video in a browser.
wslfung said:
I have ninphetamine kernel, underclocked to 800 and undervolted, I haven't noticed any heat issues since then when playing games and noticed no slow downs. Games tried: HeavyGunner, Zenonia 3. Also no heat issues anymore when playing flash video in a browser.
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but sorry these games are not using graphics as eternal legacy or asphalt 6 hd or fast 5 hd
really it works
i rooted then set cpu then put the values 200-800 and asphalt 6 worked around 20 minutes no heat at all only slight warm
and the benchmark only decresed from 3300 to 2750
I am getting bothered by the heat of my nexus 4 especially at the camera side..., when I play psx emulator it really gets hot and it gets hotter when it is charging... even if i am only watching or streaming the internet it gets noticeably hot, so i would like to know if this is ok or not.
what are apps that could monitor the temperature?
what is the normal temperature when gaming and idle?
I would like to know about this things so that if my unit is a lemon, i could return it to lg for the warranty.
thanks in advance.
scampupy said:
I am getting bothered by the heat of my nexus 4 especially at the camera side..., when I play psx emulator it really gets hot and it gets hotter when it is charging... even if i am only watching or streaming the internet it gets noticeably hot, so i would like to know if this is ok or not.
what are apps that could monitor the temperature?
what is the normal temperature when gaming and idle?
I would like to know about this things so that if my unit is a lemon, i could return it to lg for the warranty.
thanks in advance.
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you have a quad core device, its normal. when you stress the cpu, gaming, streaming, itll heat up. when you charge, your battery will heat up. the back o the phone is glass, so itll feel like it gets hot fast. when the device hits a certain cpu temperature, heat throttling kicks in. this will lower your cpu speed and cool down your device. when it goes over the cpu safety temperature(100C i believe), the cpu will shut down and the phone will power off. there are several apps that show the cpu and battery temperature. remember, battery temperature and cpu temperature are two completely different temperature readings.
System tuner gives you cpu temp. But you should get an app that tells you battery temp as well...
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ok thanks..., I'll monitor my device and post the temperature later.
Idle
batt: 35c
cpu: 39c
Watching a video
batt:42.8c
cpu:54c
I'm still downloading a heavy intensive game to test
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you have a quad core device, its normal. when you stress the cpu, gaming, streaming, itll heat up. when you charge, your battery will heat up. the back o the phone is glass, so itll feel like it gets hot fast. when the device hits a certain cpu temperature, heat throttling kicks in. this will lower your cpu speed and cool down your device. when it goes over the cpu safety temperature(100C i believe), the cpu will shut down and the phone will power off. there are several apps that show the cpu and battery temperature. remember, battery temperature and cpu temperature are two completely different temperature readings.
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simms22 is right you can under clock it safely kernel tuner is free on play
Intel CPUs (i5, i7, etc.) can survive going over 100 degree Celsius, but the commonly quoted safe temperature limit for long term operation is 70 degree Celsius. I would assume that the same holds true for other silicon chips, and find it difficult to believe that the shut off temperature for the Nexus 4 is 100 degree Celsius - you will be getting serious burns on your fingers by then.
Wait..., I recently played a 3d game and my temperature is reaching
CPU: 67c
Battery: 50c
Is my phone a lemon or its a normal case scenario?
Hi all,
For "hardcore user" there is a thread with a solution to limit the heating :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39320647#post39320647
Wait..., I recently played a 3d game and my temperature is reaching
CPU: 67c
Battery: 50c
Is this temperature normal??
That is a little worrying. Are you using a case? Also what is the room temperature where you were using the phone?
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sorry for the late reply I thought no ones going to reply with my post, the room temperature is 31c. and I dont use a case
Hello Guys, i registered to XDA developers to ask this question so please reply. i heard many say GPU of Nexus 4 is very bad because after 20 mins of gameplay the phone gets heated and the GPU performance is Dramatically Reduced to cooldown. I am going to buy Nexus 4 thats y im asking, i didnt hear this from my neighbours..., i saw someone say this in youtube comments. Anyone Experiencing this Issue? or its a defective product?.
This is a good thread to read about Thermal Throttling: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2144652
I am not sure about the GPU actually reducing it's power when the nexus is getting hot. I know the CPU will clock lower when it has reached 70 degrees so it can cool down. Most kernel's have the ability to up this to about 100 degrees so you won't have the thermal throttling as fast. You are also able to remove the throttling completely with a commando.
I've played alot of Dungeon Hunter 4/GTA Vice City/Real Racing 3 and I have never experienced severe FPS drops because of it getting hotter. The only thing you will experience is a battery that will be empty within 2 hours.
PS: This is based on what i've read on the forums, I do not have my nexus 4 for that long and I am not a developer, someone might be able to give you more accurate information.
The thermald.conf sets the battery threshold to about 40-41C before it begins to underclock aggressively (hence why it feels sluggish). I forget the exact number. It starts reading "Overheating" status when it reaches about 46C. Max rated temperature for the battery is 60C.
At that battery temperature ~41C, the CPU is no more than about 50C, so it's not the CPU overheating.
If you feel so inclined, you can modify the thermald.conf with root to modify how aggressive the thermal throttling acts, within reason. Otherwise you'll cook your phone.
desynch- said:
The thermald.conf sets the battery threshold to about 40-41C before it begins to underclock aggressively (hence why it feels sluggish). I forget the exact number.
At that temperature, the CPU is no more than about 50C.
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or you can run a custom kernel(like trinity) that disables the battery thermal throttle and not worry about it.
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or you can run a custom kernel(like trinity) that disables the battery thermal throttle and not worry about it.
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YMMV with that. My nominal binned SoC overheats really easily. With the way I use my phone, it'd be overheating way too often.
I modified my thermald.conf so it's less aggressive. It's not that hard to figure out.
The phone throttles its clock speed like a PC. It's not a big deal.
my s5 gets hot very quickly.. when i use it for 10-15mins (very light use checking mail and browsing).. it gets warm... when on moderate use (transfering lots of stuff on sdcard) it gets hot .... and when using a lot of apps (not even gaming).. it gets really really hot.
I installed cpu temp and I get temperatures like 60 degrees... sometimes i even get warning it's over 70 degrees.
I am on kitkat neatrom. will lollipop help with the heat? Is it actually normal? My friend has galaxy s4 mini and it does not get hot.. only warm under similar heavy load
yeahman45 said:
my s5 gets hot very quickly.. when i use it for 10-15mins (very light use checking mail and browsing).. it gets warm... when on moderate use (transfering lots of stuff on sdcard) it gets hot .... and when using a lot of apps (not even gaming).. it gets really really hot.
I installed cpu temp and I get temperatures like 60 degrees... sometimes i even get warning it's over 70 degrees.
I am on kitkat neatrom. will lollipop help with the heat? Is it actually normal? My friend has galaxy s4 mini and it does not get hot.. only warm under similar heavy load
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No is not normal.Not even in games. When i was on kit kat hw accelerate h265 1080p movies only played in sw mod and then my cpu never got over 70 (and this is a ****ing cpu intensive **** for 1-2 h) and after finish the movie temp got lower immediately.
Don't use kernel others than stock!
I am on stock... I will try a stock rooted lollipop rom... I get 70 degrees at times (some peak..it's not continous i think ).. average max temp is 61 degrees celcius... is this dangerous? It's quite hot to touch the screen. Meanwhile I underclocked my max cpu freq to see how it performs.
can someone install stabilitytest and do the classic test for 5-10mins and tell me what battery temp they get? I get 36.1 - 37.5 degrees but i underclocked my cpu to 1190mhz. I feel the device being warm... top of the phone is warmest
edit: done same test on my old htc desire and the temp gets max at 33.6 to 34.6 but the device does not feel warm at all.. wdf is wrong with the galaxy s5?
It's actually the top part of the screen that is very hot to touch
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It's actually the top part of the screen that is very hot to touch
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I'll do the tests for you. Tell what apps to use (more tests is accurate). give me their google play link and i'll post screenshots
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I'll do the tests for you. Tell what apps to use (more tests is accurate). give me their google play link and i'll post screenshots
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Thx man
App to monitor temperature overall
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp&hl=en
App to do stress test of the cpu: (try the first test for 10mins)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability&hl=en
yeahman45 said:
Thx man
App to monitor temperature overall
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp&hl=en
App to do stress test of the cpu: (try the first test for 10mins)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability&hl=en
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in cputemp, go to changing curve to see the cpu temp monitor.
in cputemp --> settings --> you can enable cpu temp overlay.. it will show you the temp in status bar... can you tell me what do you get when idle and what do you get while doing the stabilitytest. thx
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It's actually the top part of the screen that is very hot to touch
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first (idle with screen open)
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Thx! I am interested to know what temperature do you get when doing the stabilitytest ... I get like 70 - 72 degrees when doing the stability test!!!
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In my room temp is 24 C. Maybe maters
ok i'll do classic in few mins
Thx can you try the stabilitytest classic test(the first one) plz?
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I ve got some high temps up to 74
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I ve got some high temps up to 74
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Thx for tests! So it does get pretty hot for you too on load but your battery temp is much lower than me. It is 36 to 38 for me undet load maybe thats because i am using a case? Do you feel the touchscreen very hot when doing the tests?
But normal temp is still high for me. It is 46 to 56 degrees doing just light tasks like browsing and gmail. Will try to factory reset. Maybe a nasty app causing it.
Thx again
anyone else having heat issues?are all snapdragon 801 phones that hot? I am considering selling my s5... I only had it for a few months... It's the first flagship device I bought and I am amazed that it has that kind of issues. (I also get a can't wake up issue).. unbelievable...
I have noticed this phone underperforms compared to other Snapdragon 821 devices and I have found a method to majorly increase the speed of this device.
After the following changes the device remains running at cool operating temperatures and performance is increased over the board about 50%
Doing these changes will disable the useless thermal limits set by Xiaomi on this device. Xiaomi set the limits far to low unlike other manufacturers.
The device still has hardware thermal protection by Qualcomm so there is no chance these changes will damage your device.
Your will need:
ES File Explorer
Kernal Auditor
Root Access
Open ES File Explorer and navigate to System/etc
Scroll to the bottom and find file thermal-engine-8996.conf
Copy this to your sd card for a backup and delete this file. ( This will not take effect immediately )
Go to Kernal Auditor and change the big core CPU Governor to OnDemand and set the Maximum CPU frequency to 2150MHz.
Set the LITTLE core CPU Governor to interactive and Max Frequency to 1593MHz.
Go to GPU and change the GPU Max Frequency to 560MHz.
Restart your device for these changes to take effect, the changes are astounding and matches the performance of a stock Snapdragon 835 device while still running at standard operating temperatures.
are u sure, we will have same thermal sensation ? i mean in hand ?
Wont it make the device very hot and will have very fast battery drain?
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The device doesn't get any hotter than usual with these settings.
It is important to under clock a bit so it can keep this sustained performance without breaching it's thermal limits.
The performance gains are very noticeable especially with Dolphin and PPSSPP.
You can see how hot the device gets with Kernal Auditor. Compare the heat listings before the changes and after these are done to check for yourself.
As long as you use these settings the device will not get hotter than stock.
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Wont it make the device very hot and will have very fast battery drain?
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The device doesn't get hot if you underclock the cores and battery life is even better because you are underclocking the GPU and LITTLE core which don't need to go up to 2.1GHz for standard tasks.
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The device doesn't get hot if you underclock the cores and battery life is even better because you are underclocking the GPU and LITTLE core which don't need to go up to 2.1GHz for standard tasks.
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So there are no downsides? :silly:
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There are always down sides to system modifications that haven't been extensively tested, his mileage may not be what you get - be very careful changing core restrictions / settings.
I find there can be considerable variation based on the ROM. I have found EPIC to give the most consistent results. By results I mean Antutu, since general performance is hard to measure.
I set the cores to their max and the boost frequencies to max too. Governor is on demand for both. Response after touch is set to 100ms. In the thermal settings I have Temperature Throttle on and the GPU governor to performance. I get 155k In Antutu almost every pass. Sometimes it'll top 160k, other times down to 150k.
I don't care about the heat since I almost always use the included case and I'm not concerned with battery life. The main thing that still bugs me is the temp figure in Kernel Auditor. It'll show high 60s after Antutu, but other temp apps like CpuTemp show it never gets above 45C. What does your temp get up to?
From what I've read, even in the 60C+ range it's still within safe/reasonable working temps for the CPU. I've used these settings for around two weeks and I've gone out of my way to game when I rarely did before (sometimes 1-2 hours in PPSSPP which taxes it). Never had it freeze/lock/reboot once. My Nexus 6 would occasionally do that when I had it pushed to the limit.
If I didn't use the case then I probably would back off it a little as you have outlined as the temps when holding the bare phone can be pretty hot.
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I find there can be considerable variation based on the ROM. I have found EPIC to give the most consistent results. By results I mean Antutu, since general performance is hard to measure.
I set the cores to their max and the boost frequencies to max too. Governor is on demand for both. Response after touch is set to 100ms. In the thermal settings I have Temperature Throttle on and the GPU governor to performance. I get 155k In Antutu almost every pass. Sometimes it'll top 160k, other times down to 150k.
I don't care about the heat since I almost always use the included case and I'm not concerned with battery life. The main thing that still bugs me is the temp figure in Kernel Auditor. It'll show high 60s after Antutu, but other temp apps like CpuTemp show it never gets above 45C. What does your temp get up to?
From what I've read, even in the 60C+ range it's still within safe/reasonable working temps for the CPU. I've used these settings for around two weeks and I've gone out of my way to game when I rarely did before (sometimes 1-2 hours in PPSSPP which taxes it). Never had it freeze/lock/reboot once. My Nexus 6 would occasionally do that when I had it pushed to the limit.
If I didn't use the case then I probably would back off it a little as you have outlined as the temps when holding the bare phone can be pretty hot.
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Kernal Auditor gets the actual CPU/GPU temps , I'm not sure where apps like CPUZ or CPU Temp get their readings.
Even after running Dolphin or PPSSPP for a couple hours the CPU temp gets into the low 70's but that's as high as it goes.
These chips are safe to run up to 95 C for CPU , 100 GPU and 110 C for the battery.
Changing these settings keeps the device well within it's thermal limits.
I have had my phone set like this for months after running it many other configurations.
I just had to tell everyone about it because it beats my buddies OnePlus 3T quite a bit when it comes to gaming.
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So there are no downsides? :silly:
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Give it a try and see for yourself.
I recently upgraded to the latest epic ROM version and found my phone to be running extra slow and battery wasn't lasting as long.
Turns out the update had reverted my settings so I decided to post this thermal "fix"
I highly recommend everyone make this change really , there is a reason that OnePlus decided to underclock their OnePlus 3T and why it runs much faster than the Xiaomi Mi Mix before this fix is completed.
It's all because the thermal throttle kicks in much too early on the Mix due to the extra heat at max Mhz for the GPU and large cores.
The only way to change this and get the performance enhancements is the remove the thermal file as I posted and follow the steps to ensure good thermals.
Thanks. Done here. It got REALLY REALLY fast but so warm for now. I'll wait to see if it get colder...
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Tried these mods right now.
Simply wonderful.
Antutu from 130.000 to over 157.000
Increased speed
Now all is very smooth
But the temperatures, incredibly, are gone down...this smartphone now is more fast and more cold.
Xiaomi/Qualcomm thermal control is so bad?
But there's a strange issue with Kernel Adiutor: I set the frequency, governor etc but, after reboot, I see these settings returning to original values. Is it normal?
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alberto8523 said:
Tried these mods right now.
Simply wonderful.
Antutu from 130.000 to over 157.000
Increased speed
Now all is very smooth
But the temperatures, incredibly, are gone down...this smartphone now is more fast and more cold.
Xiaomi/Qualcomm thermal control is so bad?
But there's a strange issue with Kernel Adiutor: I set the frequency, governor etc but, after reboot, I see these settings returning to original values. Is it normal?
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I also have this problem.
I have set everything and the "Apply on boot" is on but everything is going back to the original values.
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alberto8523 said:
Tried these mods right now.
Simply wonderful.
Antutu from 130.000 to over 157.000
Increased speed
Now all is very smooth
But the temperatures, incredibly, are gone down...this smartphone now is more fast and more cold.
Xiaomi/Qualcomm thermal control is so bad?
But there's a strange issue with Kernel Adiutor: I set the frequency, governor etc but, after reboot, I see these settings returning to original values. Is it normal?View attachment 4181218
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Really? It was so warm here. Like 80 degrees celsius. Would it be cause im using RR?
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I had the same temperatures with miui, RR and Lineage.
If I delete that file in every rom, i think I have the same results: more speed, less temperatures
I will try this settings on My MIUI ROM...
@ all...
Tips to have Kernel Adiutor to apply @ boot value (on MIUI ROM i mean)
Go to security center and manage permissions for this apps like auto startup authorized after restart i see a notification with time which say, i will aplly your value in xx seconds... and it works...
@NGP-1001
Thx for your feedback and tips, will make some test on my daily usage and send my feedback too...
Cheers
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Even after running Dolphin or PPSSPP for a couple hours the CPU temp gets into the low 70's but that's as high as it goes.
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Dolphin the browser? The only other Dolphin I know of is the one for GC/Wii emulation.
Low 70s is as high as mine gets too but it can get uncomfortably warm without the case. Maybe it's just when the CPU and GPU are both being pushed that the heat builds more. If I just use a CPU-only benchmark, like GeekBench, the phone only ever gets moderately warm at most.
I was really disappointed with the general stutter and performance (just in the UI, not even gaming) before I noticed your old thermal post. I can't recommend this method enough. Getting rid of the thermal.conf makes a massive difference no matter if you underclock it or push it to the max, even if you're taking a hit on battery life.
For those on the latest EPIC, the integrated Kernel Auditor is gone, so it needs installed from the Play store. Even then it won't work on boot like the old one did. You need to go into Settings > App Settings > Permissions > AutoStart and toggle it on.
Great result with performance governor
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Dolphin the browser? The only other Dolphin I know of is the one for GC/Wii emulation.
Low 70s is as high as mine gets too but it can get uncomfortably warm without the case. Maybe it's just when the CPU and GPU are both being pushed that the heat builds more. If I just use a CPU-only benchmark, like GeekBench, the phone only ever gets moderately warm at most.
I was really disappointed with the general stutter and performance (just in the UI, not even gaming) before I noticed your old thermal post. I can't recommend this method enough. Getting rid of the thermal.conf makes a massive difference no matter if you underclock it or push it to the max, even if you're taking a hit on battery life.
For those on the latest EPIC, the integrated Kernel Auditor is gone, so it needs installed from the Play store. Even then it won't work on boot like the old one did. You need to go into Settings > App Settings > Permissions > AutoStart and toggle it on.
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O, i need agree, device is much smoother then before, if u don't play, u will have a standard temp ° but i try to play Battle Bay... Got damn, baby...
Hot like a woman in video clip from old west coast sound... 84.2°... based on demande request, if u play, device come hot, other it's cold...
Will try more time to check if i can adjust temp limit to reduce speed based on temp limit...
Cheers
If anyone is still getting higher temps I would try underclocking a bit more. You will still get the speed increase even at much lower MHz. I wouldn't use the performance Governor as it's a huge battery drain.