So basically, I'm on PA 4.0 LS980 and I noticed that Riptide GP2 was lagging pretty badly last night. I checked the temps and it was near 67c. I know that's perfectly safe for the device, but I think it exceeded the limit, as it was throttling down to 300MHz or so. Also my Antutu was 28K, then 20K right after, so there is clearly massive throttling. I've seen talk of a fix in the custom kernel thread, but I was wondering if this had ever been figured out? Thanks!
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So since there is a thermal throttling problem going on with this device, that occurs during benchmarks, i was wondering if anyone has ever experienced performance dropping due to this throttling in real life usage (e.g. playing some performance-heavy games / using complex apps or whatever).
Just wondering, as I can't test this myself, because the phone isn't available anywhere.
I played Minecraft on my phone for about 2 hours the other day and didn't notice any performance drop off
NFS MW def drops frames.
custom kernels do help by setting the cpu low and then your manual edits on thermald conf to prevent too aggressive throttling on GPU.
Hello Guys, i registered to XDA developers to ask this question so please reply. i heard many say GPU of Nexus 4 is very bad because after 20 mins of gameplay the phone gets heated and the GPU performance is Dramatically Reduced to cooldown. I am going to buy Nexus 4 thats y im asking, i didnt hear this from my neighbours..., i saw someone say this in youtube comments. Anyone Experiencing this Issue? or its a defective product?.
This is a good thread to read about Thermal Throttling: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2144652
I am not sure about the GPU actually reducing it's power when the nexus is getting hot. I know the CPU will clock lower when it has reached 70 degrees so it can cool down. Most kernel's have the ability to up this to about 100 degrees so you won't have the thermal throttling as fast. You are also able to remove the throttling completely with a commando.
I've played alot of Dungeon Hunter 4/GTA Vice City/Real Racing 3 and I have never experienced severe FPS drops because of it getting hotter. The only thing you will experience is a battery that will be empty within 2 hours.
PS: This is based on what i've read on the forums, I do not have my nexus 4 for that long and I am not a developer, someone might be able to give you more accurate information.
The thermald.conf sets the battery threshold to about 40-41C before it begins to underclock aggressively (hence why it feels sluggish). I forget the exact number. It starts reading "Overheating" status when it reaches about 46C. Max rated temperature for the battery is 60C.
At that battery temperature ~41C, the CPU is no more than about 50C, so it's not the CPU overheating.
If you feel so inclined, you can modify the thermald.conf with root to modify how aggressive the thermal throttling acts, within reason. Otherwise you'll cook your phone.
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The thermald.conf sets the battery threshold to about 40-41C before it begins to underclock aggressively (hence why it feels sluggish). I forget the exact number.
At that temperature, the CPU is no more than about 50C.
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or you can run a custom kernel(like trinity) that disables the battery thermal throttle and not worry about it.
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or you can run a custom kernel(like trinity) that disables the battery thermal throttle and not worry about it.
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YMMV with that. My nominal binned SoC overheats really easily. With the way I use my phone, it'd be overheating way too often.
I modified my thermald.conf so it's less aggressive. It's not that hard to figure out.
The phone throttles its clock speed like a PC. It's not a big deal.
Hi, i am facing a problem regarding performance and RAM usage of LG G2 (D802). I have noticed a considerable degradation of performance with rising temperature of phone. At one time, after playing EA real racing i ended up scoring 28700 at Antutu and after i let the phone rest for a while for cooling down the CPU (i literally refrigerated the phone) it came up with 33.5K at antutu. I did the same with my SGSIV (i9500) but it remained consistent with score ranging between 28-29K. I am using stock firmware on my LGG2 and its not rooted even... Can some one explain why is so and what can be the solution...
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Hi, i am facing a problem regarding performance and RAM usage of LG G2 (D802). I have noticed a considerable degradation of performance with rising temperature of phone. At one time, after playing EA real racing i ended up scoring 28700 at Antutu and after i let the phone rest for a while for cooling down the CPU (i literally refrigerated the phone) it came up with 33.5K at antutu. I did the same with my SGSIV (i9500) but it remained consistent with score ranging between 28-29K. I am using stock firmware on my LGG2 and its not rooted even... Can some one explain why is so and what can be the solution...
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The reason why your SGS4 didn't change scores was because for certain benchmarks like Antutu, Samsung disabled thermal throttling completely where as the LG G2 doesn't have thermal throttling disabled during those tests.
Hi,
I know that thermothrotteling is a feature to protect the cpu against damage. But what I notice that the temperature on my Note 910F is raising quire fast and that I am running into performance issue quite easily. Just playing arround the internet , watching something at youtube is bringing the device into the throtteling mode and than everthing is in slow motion (no hardcore games are neccessary). On my Note 3 I was never aware about such a situation.
Im using the Echoe rom 1.1 with the Ecoe kernel 3.5 (and fairly conservative power saving settings), but it is not kernel related because on stock it is the same.
Anybody facing a simelar situation?
Best regards,
dingolino
Thats not normal :/ i guess sd being 28nm and clocked at 2.7ghz does generate some heat
Your not alone. That is the very reason why I rooted my phone yesterday. The Samsung DVFS is very aggressive on my note 4 with 4.4 kittkatt.
Iv noticed in benchmarks once my phone heats up a little it drops the GPU and CPU down to about half speed and im only getting half the score and in gaming after a few minutes I would start to notice a little lag and my cpu speed would be staying at 1297. It slowly drops down to that then stays around there.
I disabled the Samsung DVFS and use setcpu aswell to keep it at the full speed while gaming and it works great now and the temps are hardly any different.
Many thanks for the feedback.
I have switched off Touch boost und set Max cpu to 1.9GHz
Will see how it works.
Best regards
dingolino
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It is quite annoying have such a fast phone but it downclocks both the cpu and gpu after a few mins of gaming.
A good test is GTA vice city with the settings cranked up.
With DVFS enabled once it hits about 56 degrees it starts to throttle and downclocks the gpu and cpu to about half and the game becomes a laggy mess.
With DVFS disabled its as smooth as butter but the temp goes up to about 70 degrees. Whats the max safe temp for this phone?
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It is quite annoying have such a fast phone but it downclocks both the cpu and gpu after a few mins of gaming.
A good test is GTA vice city with the settings cranked up.
With DVFS enabled once it hits about 56 degrees it starts to throttle and downclocks the gpu and cpu to about half and the game becomes a laggy mess.
With DVFS disabled its as smooth as butter but the temp goes up to about 70 degrees. Whats the max safe temp for this phone?
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I do not know the safe setting.
I am using the echoe kernel and this kernel offers the “intellithermal“ feature from faux. You can set the temperatures when frequency throttling should start as well as kernel throttling. They give in the faux app also some recommendations.
Maybe you give out a try.
But I am disappointed because the throttling is affecting “normal“ life not only hard core gaming and this is for me somewhat a design fault.
At least on my Note 4 F
I never had this on my previous devices that I cannot watch a movie which is stored at my sd card. I have a number of tutorial and maintenance videos which are handy to watch on the device.
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dingolino
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I can confirm this on the N910W8. As soon as the device heats up the frame rates drop dramatically. I also don't game. Just day to day usage. It's strange that some fairly simple tasks can heat things up so much.
I removed my ScanDisk 64GB Class 10 SD card which seemed to improve the heat problem.
Also, when its cool it smokes through GeekBench 3. After it heats up it runs slower then a Galaxy S3.
Just you my friend, I don't have that problem
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Donkon....can you let me know what your idle phone cpu temp is? you can use the CpuTemp app and just let me know what it idles at on your homescreen and what it heats up to in a demanding game. Just make sure its the CPU temp and not the battery. thanks
It would be good to compare.
Also I was just doing some tests and these are my results.. im curious to know if these are normal temps.
My phone idles at around 34-38 degrees c.
With DVFS enabled it never goes above around 56 degrees as that's when it starts throttling down.
Iv never had any slowdowns in youtube or videos or anything like that. Its only gaming really and benchmarks where it starts to throttle once it heats up and in a game like gta it starts to lag abit once it throttles as it takes the gpu and cpu down to about half speed.
With DVFS disabled im able to run the full 2647 cpu speed when gaming and its as smooth as butter. My temp in riptide goes up to 58 degrees. In GTA vice city it goes up to around 70 degrees and in the unreal benchmark demo it goes up to about 74/75 degrees. Do these sound like normal temps when your running the full speed of the cpu?
Yeah, it is ok.
The Exynos start throttling at 80°C.
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Also I was just doing some tests and these are my results.. im curious to know if these are normal temps.
My phone idles at around 34-38 degrees c.
With DVFS enabled it never goes above around 56 degrees as that's when it starts throttling down.
Iv never had any slowdowns in youtube or videos or anything like that. Its only gaming really and benchmarks where it starts to throttle once it heats up and in a game like gta it starts to lag abit once it throttles as it takes the gpu and cpu down to about half speed.
With DVFS disabled im able to run the full 2647 cpu speed when gaming and its as smooth as butter. My temp in riptide goes up to 58 degrees. In GTA vice city it goes up to around 70 degrees and in the unreal benchmark demo it goes up to about 74/75 degrees. Do these sound like normal temps when your running the full speed of the cpu?
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Which kernel are you using and what means “DVFS“?
Which app are you using for the kernel settings?
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dingolino
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Im using the stock Kernel. Iv only rooted. I haven't installed a custom rom or Kernel yet.
the DVFS is samsungs own voltage and frequency control program. Its what causes the aggressive thermal throttling in kittkatt 4.4. Its been there for along time but in 4.4 its pretty much too aggressive.
When you disable it the phone wont throttle back the GPU and CPU and a silly 56 degrees so it wont start to lag in games after a few minutes.
If anyone has GTA vice city or the epic citadel unreal demo can they run it and tell me what there CPU temp goes up to in those.. I just want to make sure mines normal as it gets very hot. With DVFS it should go up to about 55-60 and without it will be around 70.
Does anyone have freezes followed by restarts when disabling DVFS for just some apps (using blacklist)? I have this problem and disabling DVFS for the whole system really annoys me (opening app speed is slowed down + power saving mode requires a restart). I'm using the exynos C version.
So yeah, I'm still new for G2 and I found thermal throttling issues to be very bad. I enabled temperature property but it throttles on 70c and does it fast. I'm not a huge gamer but still would like to fix this. Is it possible to increase the limit or something? Talking about stock LG ROM.
Thanks.