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Hi all
Don't know how many of you guys are ipaq transferees like myself, but there is one piece of software on the ipaq that has not been adopted in the XDA series handhelds, namely REVO - the remote control tool.
Anybody into gadgets in the way that we are will have too many remote controls lying about. This tool allowed me to put them on a shelf, and use them very rarely.
So.....
Does anybody have a clue how to extract it from the ipaq ready to be placed on the XDA II. NAturally, owning both devices, one would assume that providing I use it with either one or the other, you can provide this useful information conscience clear!!!!
Look forward to any thoughts
JJ
jjcodex said:
Does anybody have a clue how to extract it from the ipaq ready to be placed on the XDA II.
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Unfortunately, the Himalaya infrared hardware is not capable of communicating with customer devices like TV sets. There is nothing any software could do about this - only some hardware change can help.
Cheers
Daniel
Also some Ipaq's Irda are just very powerfull made..have a range of 10-15 meters.
Normally pda Irda's have a range of 2-3 meters.
not sure why the ir would be 100% incompatible with the tv
if special software written for it was used
about the range issue
http://www.smarthome.com/8220A.html
http://www.homeautomationnet.com/Shopping/remote-control-accessories.asp
http://www.pdawin.com/irtranceiver.html
suppose one of these would inc the range
i had
http://www.pdawin.com/
this software running on my xda1
too bad the range was only 30cm
Thanks for the feedback guys.
I am surprised that the range is so different between devices. I understood that the infra red transmit distance was usually further than the receive. Would this be applicable to the XDA II I wonder. I will run some experiments with a phone to see if I can assess distances.
Had a look at the PDA Win software, looks quite functional, perhaps not as slick as the built ipaq version. 30cm range... doh!
They seem to have specifically excluded the XDA II. I wonder if this is a range issue as you guys have suggested.
Hmmm......
Sounds like an excuse to spend money on a very very very posh do-all remote control!!!!!!!!! (LOL)
Thanks for your thoughts anyway.
Cheers guys
Rudegar said:
not sure why the ir would be 100% incompatible with the tv if special software written for it was used
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Well, TVs use "consumer" infrared, while PDAs use "IrDA". See here for a more detailed explanation. It has nothing to do with the power or the range of the IR LEDs and phototransistors.
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Daniel
Well, TVs use "consumer" infrared, while PDAs use "IrDA". See here for a more detailed explanation. It has nothing to do with the power or the range of the IR LEDs and phototransistors.
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and yet i had pdawinøs software working ok on my xda1
and also used it to comm with my laptop so some infrared classify as
both IrDA and consumer
if the range is ok then the only difference i can think of is protocol and that should be possible to work out so that software would work on the xda2
i also had my trusting old hp48 calc working as a remote at a time
prob still have the software somewhere
Well, TVs use "consumer" infrared, while PDAs use "IrDA". See here for a more detailed explanation. It has nothing to do with the power or the range of the IR LEDs and phototransistors.
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I would have to side with Rudegar on this one, as I have not only used the Ipaq for several consumer devices but the extremely fundamental Palm III (aahhhh those were the days, when a calculator was considered to be a posh option.
I would say, however, that neither successfully worked with a sky remote, which I wonder may be due to two-way data transfer. I wonder if this is the IrDA vs Consumer difference.
I read the link to the Irda page, which as you suggest states that the two are different. I would agree that the two standards are different, but unless built-in hardware compatability is provided to the majority of pda's, there must be a way of emulating the consumer device within the IrDa protocols.
Hmmm... A little out of my depth on this one. Hopefully somebody else can explain!!
Cheers
JJ
The xda 1 I have works fine as a remote control for my tv and dvd etc, I use "learning2 mode to program the xda using the original remote handset. The xda 2 however is total crap as a remote, however if you wish to use it from one position, for instance the couch in your living room, there is a device called an infra red repeater, this allows you to operate an infra red device from a greater distance, I will see if I can find a name for manufacturer but I am sure this device exists, its selling point was enabling you to operate your cable/sattelite box from upstairs even when you had no line of sight to the box. It was a money saver because you could connect your cable/satellite to your upstairs tv instead of having to purchase a second box from the provider and be able to change channels from upstairs.
Guys,
I wouldlike to get inside the discusion because I have almost the same problem and I would like some help.
I also found the hard way that the XDA II does not work as a remote control, then I found this Total Remote software and module that really got myself impressed, I bought it and also the adaptor for the audio output.
Now I am able to output the signals without problem, the software works very fine and control the eletronic equipments without any problem.
But then I got to test the learning mode and then my problems started. The XDA II canot learn nothing! It wont recognize any kind of command that comes from any remote controler. To make sure it was not a problem of the software I tested to more diferent remote controler softwares and they also does not learn. What really make me disapointed is that even touching the controler IR led with the XDAII IRda port, the XDA II can´t learn anything.
I already tried to disable the "receive all incoming beans" and do a soft reset, but this also does not worked.
I am writing this in the hope I am forgetting something and one of you give me any more idea.
OR
To also ask for the more experts, if it is possible to substitute the IRda port with a common IR led found on any remote controler (of course doing some soldering). If there is compactibility between them, I think I will give it a go, since I really whant a remote control on my XDA II.
Thanks a lot
Felipe
thats what i've been saying all along
the xda2's ir modules is not the default ir module which all the remote software is written for
the remote applications would have to be written directly for the modules ir in the xda2 for it to work
i've come across no such applications as of yet
I know most PDAs only have a small IR range. Has anybody tried the wizzard with one of the many pocket pc remote control software? What was your range like?
I tried noviiremote deluxe and right when i opened up the app it told me that the wizards device is incompatible with the program. so i guess wait for an update on that app, but they're many more remote control apps. give some of them a shot and see for yourself maybe?
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I tried noviiremote deluxe and right when i opened up the app it told me that the wizards device is incompatible with the program. so i guess wait for an update on that app, but they're many more remote control apps. give some of them a shot and see for yourself maybe?
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No other remote app will work - none of them supports the TI CPU. You may want to check out http://pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17874 for more info.
THat's annoying. On my old SE P800, the tv remote worked srom as far away as I could get, come 8 meters!
There is also something else why remote control software won’t work.
IR-DA hardware is not compatible to work as a remote control transmitter because it is mend to be for data communication between two IR-DA devices.
But if your PDA can do it anyway then there is extra hardware build in to do this.
The HP2210 can do this and it worked wonderful.
I’ve been in several waiting room where televisions where shouting all the time. And with the 2210 I could switch them off or lower there volume
Cheers,
Drifter
It will be nice to have an app that can capture the code from any controller.
The on board application is too limited .
The use it could be for example : to capture air condition controller code so you can control you air condition and make your galaxy the true multi (universal) remote controller.
It will be nice if we can export - share the codes.. :good:
note: if i can i will like to help in development of the app... please p.m.
I had a short test with the light sensor from test mode, this should be possible.
However I'm not a developer.
ALexander
what do you mean? What test? There must be evidence it can receive IR orders not only transmit them. And to have SDK for sensors, does anybody know if samsung released the SDK for sensors? I read that somewhere but maybe Im wrong and it was about HTC One. THX
open dialer
type *#0*#
choose sensor
choose light sensor
Hold remote next to the sensor and see the values changing.
So I suppose I it possible to record and play back via the IR diode.
There is no explicit IR receiving diode onboard.
ALexander
if you want SGS4 to learn codes from original dedicated IR blasters (e.g. air conditioning), you need IR receiver in it! For control home electronics you need IR sender (transmiter). So, if it has no receiver, it cannot receive commands and learn, so the only option is to load it from a file or some online code source...undwerstand?
are you crazy? The light sensor is not IR its only for automatic brightness change!!! LOL
there are two IR sensors one above display on the front side for air gestures and one on the top side for the TV, DVD,...control...learn smth about it and read manual!!! Its not a shame LOL
i am not sure but i think that if it isn't a receiver we could use the camera as receiver.
correct me if i'm wrong..
too difficult and complex ...or not possible...somebody has to confirm if it has or doesnt have IR receiver, if so than its only the matter of simple apk...
kultus said:
are you crazy? The light sensor is not IR its only for automatic brightness change!!! LOL
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Did you try what I wrote?
ALexander
if im not wrong air gesture is nothing but ir receiver right? why not use it for learning function if in case the blaster dosent have ir receiver diode.
It doesn't have to be a receiver (front) for the air gestures to work..it can be a transmiter.
But the front camera hase to be able to read the signal for thr gestures to work ( trasmiter project and camera read the projection that translate to object to complete the gesture)
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Did you try what I wrote?
ALexander
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Yes and what? it only changes the values as you cover it by your hand there is less light to receive and thats all. According to this phone is minimising/maximising the display brightness..very simple principle...useless because it has nothing to do with IR.
It is also able to detect the color of the light received, the only question left over is whether the detection is quick enough to be able to get the full signal out of the IR-signal.
Alexander
Think you are all flogging a dead horse!
You cannot use the camera to decode IR signals!!! You need a dedicated IR receiver which is something the S4 does not have afaik. I am pretty sure if Samsung had one in there they would have marketed the S4 as a learning remote.
On another note from playing with the S4 I think the IR emitter is pants! It has a very short range and has to be in direct line of site of the receiver on your equipment. You would all be better off purchasing a wifi connected IR emitter and downloading the appropriate app if you are really set on using the S4 to control anything but believe me the novelty will wear off very quickly.
ir Remote
I remember a Symbian software > ir Remote < , to which could be added the codes, also manually from file, of many device...
So, should develop an app or porting to Android...
HTC ONE has it!
Guys, the HTC ONE has the ability to read IR codes from remotes and repeat them with its built-in app. I tested it myself, my bro has one. I have S4 and it would have been nice to be able to do that also. Any updates on this matter?
Cheers!
tzuik said:
Guys, the HTC ONE has the ability to read IR codes from remotes and repeat them with its built-in app. I tested it myself, my bro has one. I have S4 and it would have been nice to be able to do that also. Any updates on this matter?
Cheers!
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What built-in app? Can't find it on my HTC ONE GPe
IR Remote SOFT
NaviRamyle said:
What built-in app? Can't find it on my HTC ONE GPe
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My first PDA Dell Axim X3 a couple of years ago .....6-7 on Windows Mobile , had an App (don't remember anymore the exact name),
with a learn function. Means I was pushing Power button in the app and the Power Button on the original remote control while the IR from the remote was facing the IR of the Dell. and he learned exact to swich on and off the Digital TV receiver.... and I did the same for all buttons
, volume , programs up and down etc. ..
Do we have also an app like this for IR powered Androids ?
Need IR remote Code
Can someone help me with a IR remote code for an AirCo named Airwell
the remote name is YX1F.
Thank you in advance
Dintisor said:
My first PDA Dell Axim X3 a couple of years ago .....6-7 on Windows Mobile , had an App (don't remember anymore the exact name),
with a learn function. Means I was pushing Power button in the app and the Power Button on the original remote control while the IR from the remote was facing the IR of the Dell. and he learned exact to swich on and off the Digital TV receiver.... and I did the same for all buttons
, volume , programs up and down etc. ..
Do we have also an app like this for IR powered Androids ?
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Also had this on iPaq rx3715, ten years ago, haha.
guys what about those IR recievers that samsung includes with some tvs (it's an extension if u have something placed in front of tv's main reciever
i think it has a 3,5mm jack so it could go inside the s4/note 3's jack and we can use it to get the codes?
Hi,
Is there any IR Blaster apps out there that work like the harmony remotes where you can point a remote that is not supported and get the button presses assigned manually on the blaster?.
I am not looking for it to control a TV, in my workplace some of my workmates have a small ir device with one button that is used to open and close a road barrier when driving in and out from work, i need to jump in and out of a car to punch in some numbers to get by.
I don't even know if this would be possible, just wondering if anyone thinks this could be done?
Cheers!
jpopgt said:
Hi,
Is there any IR Blaster apps out there that work like the harmony remotes where you can point a remote that is not supported and get the button presses assigned manually on the blaster?.
I am not looking for it to control a TV, in my workplace some of my workmates have a small ir device with one button that is used to open and close a road barrier when driving in and out from work, i need to jump in and out of a car to punch in some numbers to get by.
I don't even know if this would be possible, just wondering if anyone thinks this could be done?
Cheers!
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Nope, our Note 4 can't READ IR.
pedmond said:
Nope, our Note 4 can't READ IR.
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Thanks for the reply!
Has anyone had any success with the IRBlaster? I've tried the AnyMote app, but none of my devices have worked so far.
My Sony TV works just fine with the stock app.
badmoj0 said:
My Sony TV works just fine with the stock app.
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Thanks. This is a dumb question, but what is the stock IR Blaster called? I can't find one.
anybody try for Skybox uk, Openbox, Pioneer Music system and philips TV?
onlinejobwork said:
anybody try for Skybox uk, Openbox, Pioneer Music system and philips TV?
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For me it works on Pioneer TV, DVD player too, but music system no. I have no experience with other.
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The stock IR blaster app on the phone (called "Smart Controller") works fine without any problems with my Samsung Ultra HD Smart TV UE48HU7505XXE
Smart controller works on my Samsung UE55Fxyz, but you really have to point straight at the IR receiver.
But the selection of devices is extremely limited; no AVR at all for instance.
SmartControllers works Ok, but not perfectly
It works great on my philips tv ( no smart ), but it doesnt work very great with samsung tv
Has anyone got any other IR apps to work? I tried IR Universal Remote and couldn't get anything to work.
One User mentioned that Zaza remote works well.
In my case all buttons work well except the number buttons. They jump and have multiple presses.
So it is not possible for me to select, say Channel 451. The moment I press 4 for the first number, it auto presses 2 more times and I get 444. If I press 1, it will select 111.
I have a Sony TV
I've tried quite a lot of apps from the store but none works so far.
luckily the default apps work fine with my LG tv & satellite tv decoder
Hou van teach the stock app IR signaal so you van actually make every remote work.
Nopes, teaching the Smart Controller did not work. Infact since I have an Airtel STB which is not there in the default, I had to teach the remote in the first place to make it work partially
Has anyone tried Peel app? That worked well for IR remote on my Samsung S4
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IR Transmitter?
Hi,
Can IR sensor record signals and then play back it (for remote controls that are not on app's list)
There was such feature in my previous m8, I think there should be an IR transceiver in device instead of IR Blaster (transceiver can send and receive, blaster only can send)
The stock app works great, especially the IR learning feature.
Here is a tip though, sometimes following the instructions (To hold down the remote button for 2 seconds) is not good enough.
I find that the best results come when you press the button on the remote rapidly, using this method, I have managed to copy 10+ remotes in my house without with all buttons working.