[Q] Any working app/ kernel supports NTFS? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi. I've tried several apps on Google Play (Paragon exFAT, NTFS & HFS+, Ntfs Mounter, USB OTG Helper etc), but none appears to work with NTFS drive (using OTG cable off course).
Anyone know if there's any app or custom Kernel which support NTFS?
Note: My note 3 is N900.
Thanks.

NTFS is a usermount system, at least ntfs-3g is. It isn't built into the kernel but rather an ntfs-3g binary you put in /system/xbin, mount NTFS with:
ntfs-3g /dev/block/mmcblk1pX /mnt/external_sd
setting device and mountpoint as desired. Automatic mounting of ntfs filesystems needs to be patched into the ROM itself which is why it's only really found in CM ROMs that have NTFS support. I used the manual mount script on my Note 1 for a year before CM started actually supporting it nicely. For my Note 3 I just used exfat though.
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CalcProgrammer1 said:
NTFS is a usermount system, at least ntfs-3g is. It isn't built into the kernel but rather an ntfs-3g binary you put in /system/xbin, mount NTFS with:
ntfs-3g /dev/block/mmcblk1pX /mnt/external_sd
setting device and mountpoint as desired. Automatic mounting of ntfs filesystems needs to be patched into the ROM itself which is why it's only really found in CM ROMs that have NTFS support. I used the manual mount script on my Note 1 for a year before CM started actually supporting it nicely. For my Note 3 I just used exfat though.
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Thanks a lot.
1). It would be great if u can explain in simple wording on the use ntfs-3g binary as I'm not a programmer.
I know that one of the apps above uses ntfs-3g but it does not work either.
2). Use exfat. Do you mean you format your USB/ HDD device to exfat?

On my Note 1 I used the binary from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724078
Download it, open a terminal, and type:
Code:
su
mount -o rw,remount /system
cp /mnt/sdcard/Download/ntfs-3g /system/xbin
chmod +x /system/xbin/ntfs-3g
Assuming you downloaded it to sdcard/Download and that it's called ntfs-3g (may need to extract it from a zip/tar/etc archive first).
Then figure out what your device name is, SD card is /dev/mmcblk1 and figure out partition as well, such as /dev/mmcblk1p1. Create a mountpoint if it doesn't already exist and then mount it using the command in my previous post.
Exfat is another filesystem that is the default for SDXC cards. You can format your card as exFAT and it will work fine on the Note 3 stock ROM and most PC's. exFAT is not supported on older OS'es and maybe not Mac, but if you use MTP it doesn't really matter unless you're taking the card out.

You can use custom kernel of alexyuh. Find the latest kernel with NTFS,OTG,ondemand gevernor with power saving in Poppuri Rom thread. I can't give the link right now.
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https://hotfile.com/dl/256609052/a23b9dd/Kernel_exp.apk.html
ok.here ^ .install apk and touch the bottom below to install kernel
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I run the command in su mode but I get ntfs-3g-mount: mount failed: Permission denied.
Any help?

moisesmcardona said:
I run the command in su mode but I get ntfs-3g-mount: mount failed: Permission denied.
Any help?
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I am getting the same error message. I suspect that has something to do with knox. Either that or SELinux Enforcing.

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Format & Use MicroSD W/ ext4?

Hey guys, for a couple reasons I'd like to be able to format my micro SD card with the ext4 file system.
I can format my card using a computer running Ubuntu, but the card will not mount.
I'm running CM10 on my P3113.
Is there any simple way to do this?
It seems like it'd be best to use vold to mount the sdcard, but that doesn't support ext4 I guess?
Just wondering...
Ext4 support has to come from kernel.
???
Literally every other mounted filesystem on the CM10 ROM I use is ext4...
I'm gonna try mounting via an init.d script.
We'll see if that works...
Solved this one, it was easier than I expected.
You need to format the card, and then mount it at boot via a script.
CM9 and 10 support init.d scripts, so I have a script file at /system/etc/init.d/95sdcardext4
with this contents:
Code:
#!/system/xbin/sh
# Mount SD Card Ext4 Script
mount -rw -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /storage/sdcard1
This runs very early in the boot up process, and ext4 partitions mount basically instantly, so everything is working as expected so far.
More tests need to be done, but I'm fairly certain I can package this up in a flashable ZIP package.
Brilliant !
ext4 is anyways far better than fat32 except Windows/Mac compatibility.
Awaiting your stable work
It will work on a s5670 running cm10 jb4.1.1?
I just have to create a file with that lines and put it in /system/etc/init.d/95sdcardext4 ?????????
I cannot get link2sd to mount the ext4 partition.
Thx
DivinityCycle said:
Solved this one, it was easier than I expected.
You need to format the card, and then mount it at boot via a script.
CM9 and 10 support init.d scripts, so I have a script file at /system/etc/init.d/95sdcardext4
with this contents:
Code:
#!/system/xbin/sh
# Mount SD Card Ext4 Script
mount -rw -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /storage/sdcard1
This runs very early in the boot up process, and ext4 partitions mount basically instantly, so everything is working as expected so far.
More tests need to be done, but I'm fairly certain I can package this up in a flashable ZIP package.
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Sorry about that, I don't have one of these anymore. I had a P3113, but switched to a T869, which is a very similar device but has 4G and some different stuff going on under the hood.
My brief ext4 experiment was honestly not that big of a deal. I ended up going back to FAT32 because the benefits didn't outweigh the annoyances.
The biggest issue I had was I couldn't figure out how to make the file system permissions behave in the same highly permissive way that FAT32 does. I ran into several force closes and other things that resulted from apps not being to read / write stuff on the card that they should have been able to. I know you can CHMOD stuff, and a boot script could chmod everything on the card, but that seems like a bandaid.
Maybe there's a way to make the permissions behave a specific way via the mount parameters? I didn't investigate deeply enough because my life got busy, and during the changeover to the new tab it was just easier to go back to FAT32. Also my new tab has 16GB of internal storage, so I've been much less stressed about storage.
Ok folks.. ...reviving an ancient thread....from good ol days when it 'KISS' was common for Android.
What about android 7+ onward . All this stuff is deprecated. My 128gb is cut into 3 Ext4's.
(I need a journaled FS - that story a lil later )
I can mount easily but problem is apps cant see it and its all got to do with mount space concept.
I am Su'ed via Magisk
Can someone post a step by step guide to mount ext4 on 7+

[Q] Symlink on /sdcard

hello there!
so im trying to symlink a subfolder to a folder on the root of my sdcard, and quite obviously i dont have a physical sd as i have a nexus 4, so the partition i created the symlink on is /data/media/0.
The story (just the reason behind it, not necessary to read):
here is why i want this symlink:
i want to use the helium backup app from the clockworkmod team, which creates a 'carbon' (old name of the app) folder on /sdcard.
i want to sync the local backup folder to my drive, for which i use the foldersync app which syncs everything found in /sdcard/drive, so i want to have the carbon folder in /sdcard/drive and create a symlink in /sdcard to it.
the reason i dont use heliums implemented drive backup option is that i have no idea where it stores all the backed up data and cant keep track of its storage usage and cant organize it the way i want to.
unfortunately helium has no option to move its local backup folder, and the dev team didnt answer my email about the backup location on drive.
whatever, back to topic...
i have created the symlink with this command:
Code:
ln -s /data/media/0/drive/carbon /data/media/0/carbon
this is working, when i use the /data/media/0 path, but when i try to look into the content of /sdcard/carbon (which obviously the app uses too), i get an error: function not implemented.
if i use this command:
Code:
ln -s /sdcard/drive/carbon /sdcard/carbon
i get the same error (function not implemented), and the symlink does not get created.
is there a way to create a working symlink for /sdcard?
i could try symlinking /sdcard to /data/media/0 (i would have to delete the existing /sdcard link, which i have no idea how is linked) with adb, but i dont know if it could work. has anyone tried that before?
ps: i have googled it and also looked for a solution on xda, havent found a solution yet...
bump
nobody? :/
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Not sure why symlink isn't working. You can try binding folders which works in many cases where symlink does not.
mount -o bind src_folder dest_folder
You might need to put this in init.d script so that the bind happens on every boot as it won't stick across reboots.
Most likely the problem you are facing is because of unified filesystem that's implemented. i.e. a single physical partition acts as two virtual partitions one containing /data and other /sdcard
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You can't symlink on sdcard because the /sdcard is formatted either fat32 or fatx (can't remember which). Neither of which supports symlinks
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Alex240188 said:
You can't symlink on sdcard because the /sdcard is formatted either fat32 or fatx (can't remember which). Neither of which supports symlinks
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The sdcard on nexus isn't FAT as its not mounted as USB mass storage but over MTP.
Phones which support mounting as USB drives use FAT formatted sdcard partitions so that it can be read by Windows natively.
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That's interesting because my previous phone. HTC one x /sdcard was 100% formatted fat because it was mtp in android. But you could still Mount as ums in recovery
OK, just had a quick look. guess you are right, /sdcard/ is formatted as EXT4 so symlinks should work fine.
edit
its mounted as ext4 in recovery.
in android its mounted as fuse which is why the symlink doesnt work
confirmed.
i just booted into recovery
Code:
adb shell
~ # ln -s /sdcard/carbon/ /sdcard/drive/carbon/
ln -s /sdcard/carbon/ /sdcard/drive/carbon/
~ # cd /sdcard/carbon
cd /sdcard/carbon
/sdcard/carbon # ls -l
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jul 1 21:35 carbon -> /sdcard/drive/carbon/
however upon rebooting the symlink is lost as it is no longer been mounted as ext4
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atulalvenkar said:
Not sure why symlink isn't working. You can try binding folders which works in many cases where symlink does not.
mount -o bind src_folder dest_folder
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unfortunately, this doesnt work, i get this:
/system/bin/sh: bind: -o: unknown option
i also tried mount --bind src dest, but that doesnt work either.
so there is no way to create a symlink or any other way to link a folder to another?
zakoo2 said:
unfortunately, this doesnt work, i get this:
/system/bin/sh: bind: -o: unknown option
i also tried mount --bind src dest, but that doesnt work either.
so there is no way to create a symlink or any other way to link a folder to another?
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I tested and it was working fine. Looks like you just typed bind -o instead of mount -o bind. It should be "mount -o bind src_folder dest_folder".
There is an app which does this for you. I haven't used it personally but you can try. Check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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atulalvenkar said:
I tested and it was working fine. Looks like you just typed bind -o instead of mount -o bind. It should be "mount -o bind src_folder dest_folder".
There is an app which does this for you. I haven't used it personally but you can try. Check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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I am looking for a solution as well as my links on my n10 no longer exist. Nothing works including factory flashing the device back to stock.

[Tutorial/HOWTO] Convert Your External SD Card from FAT/exFAT to EXT4! (3 ways!)

Hello guys.
I was looking for a similar guide to link to my friend but didn't find anything, so I decided to write my own.
Personally I didn't find any good guide regarding partitioning from android itself, so I think it's also more unique guide because you can easily make your own partition layout without using PC at all.
Why I should use EXT4 instead of FAT/exFAT?
1. We're running Android, Android is based on Linux. EXT4 is native linux-proposed filesystem, while FAT/exFAT is not.
2. All our internal partitions (/efs /data /system /cache /preload) use ext4, natively.
3. CM has poor exfat support, while fat32 is not recommended for big file systems (over 2 GB) because it doesn't work well with them, thus microsoft implemented exfat.
4. EXT4 has better stability and performance, especially on Android devices, compared to exfat and fat.
When you should not use ext4 over fat/exfat?
- When you for whatever reason use your external sd card in windows environment physically. Android works in MTP mode, you'll use your ext4 external sd card the same way as you use internal one under windows. But if you for whatever reason puts your external sd card f.e. in usb adapter connected with windows then it won't work. So yeah, if you keep your external sd card in your phone then you're fine.
Expert Way (Requires fdisk/mke2fs utilities (busybox), works always):
1. Launch any terminal from Android environment (f.e. Android Terminal Emulator or adb shell through PC)
2. Make sure you have root (su command)
3. Make sure you have all required utilities. Type fdisk --help and mke2fs --help, both commands should print usage. If you get "command not found" then you don't have required utilities. Either install Busybox or CM-Based ROM with native busybox support (tested on ArchiDroid 2.X)
4. Unmount your external sd card (umount /storage/sdcard1)
5. Launch fdisk partitioning program on your external sd card (fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk1)
6. Destroy partition table (o), create new partition , make sure it's primary (p) and first one (1).
7. You can check if you're satisfied with your partition layout (p). When you're done exit and save changes (w)
8. Create ext4 filesystem on your partition (mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1)
9. Reboot
Android should automatically detect and mount external sd card in ext4 after reboot.
Here you can find a short movie which shows going through expert way recorded by me
Intermediate Way (Requires USB Adapter and some patience, should work like a charm):
1. You'd need USB Adapter or any device which can read micro sd cards on PC
2. Open any linux-supported partitioning program (f.e. partition magic, gparted, parted), it needs to support ext4.
3. Delete all partitions from your external SD Card (typically, one fat/exfat) and create one ext4 partition.
4. In case you'd also want hardswap create 2 partitions, one primary ext4 one and second primary swap one.
Newbie Way (Requires PhilZ Touch Recovery, may not work):
1. Launch PhilZ Touch Recovery
2. Select "Mounts & Storage" => "format /external_sd"
3. Select "ext4" as a filesystem
4. Please note that it can take some time. This way you should get running ext4 filesystem, but personally I didn't test this method, as I prefer more advanced ones .
This guide is more or less universal but I'm using sgs3 external sd card paths so I want to make sure nobody bricks other phones . Personally I suggest using expert way, as it's probably the easiest one.
Hit thanks if it helped, I hope it did .
@JustArchi thanks for the tutorial. Now for the sake of sdcard wearing. I would like to disable Journaling. How do you do that?
EDIT: also i noticed after formatting the externalsd card there is 3 GB occupied by nothing (?) This is normal?
cba1986 said:
@JustArchi thanks for the tutorial. Now for the sake of sdcard wearing. I would like to disable Journaling. How do you do that?
EDIT: also i noticed after formatting the externalsd card there is 3 GB occupied by nothing (?) This is normal?
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tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 should do the trick. You can put it in init.d if needed.
Also no, you should get full size of your sdcard. Are you sure that you've firstly destroyed partition table (o) and then created new full-size partition , as showed in the video?
You can use fdisk also to get information about your external sd card and find why is it smaller than it should be.
HI, My 64gb is two partitioned one hardswap and other primary.
Will I lose data on both partitions if I delete partition and format to EXT4?
golti said:
HI, My 64gb is two partitioned one hardswap and other primary.
Will I lose data on both partitions if I delete partition and format to EXT4?
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You will lose data contained in the partition you are formatting. If you leave the other partitions untouched, you won't lose their data.
golti said:
HI, My 64gb is two partitioned one hardswap and other primary.
Will I lose data on both partitions if I delete partition and format to EXT4?
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Just don't use (o), as it will destroy everything. Use an option to delete selected partitions (d, if I remember correctly) and create them through n.
System Data
Hi, thanks for te help, but now a have a 1 gb lost by system data or 0.8gb if i disable the journaling, that is right??? Thanks
vazio said:
Hi, thanks for te help, but now a have a 1 gb lost by system data or 0.8gb if i disable the journaling, that is right??? Thanks
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It depends on your rom and also if you created ext4 properly. I've formatted my 2 GB SD Card to EXT4 and I got 1,80 GB free (yes with journaling). This is because 5%-10% is reserved for "super blocks". Read more -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
problem using expert method
Hi Guys,
I am new fairly new to rooting and using terminal emulators.
I have a rooted samsung galaxy note 2 with superSU, busybox and shell terminal emulator. I verified fdisk and mke2fs
(fdisk --help and mke2fs --help) but then when I tried the command
"umount /storage/extSdCard"
I get the error message "Operation not permitted"
Can anyone tell me why this might be?
Thanks
/storage/extSdCard is the path to the external sdcard on my device.
Hottot2 said:
Hi Guys,
I am new fairly new to rooting and using terminal emulators.
I have a rooted samsung galaxy note 2 with superSU, busybox and shell terminal emulator. I verified fdisk and mke2fs
(fdisk --help and mke2fs --help) but then when I tried the command
"umount /storage/extSdCard"
I get the error message "Operation not permitted"
Can anyone tell me why this might be?
Thanks
/storage/extSdCard is the path to the external sdcard on my device.
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Did you login as root before? (su)
JustArchi said:
Did you login as root before? (su)
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I did not.
However, I did try again and got the sane result. I used these commands in shell terminal emulator:
su -
mount
umount /storage/extSdCard
result: "Failed: Operation not permitted"
I have verified root with root checker...and after typing the command "su -" I was prompted by supersu to "allow"
I believe this issue will likely be something simple that I am not aware of.
I have tried this on my galaxy note 2 and my tab3 8.0 with the same results.
I really appreciate any help offered.
Hottot2 said:
I did not.
However, I did try again and got the sane result. I used these commands in shell terminal emulator:
su -
mount
umount /storage/extSdCard
result: "Failed: Operation not permitted"
I have verified root with root checker...and after typing the command "su -" I was prompted by supersu to "allow"
I believe this issue will likely be something simple that I am not aware of.
I have tried this on my galaxy note 2 and my tab3 8.0 with the same results.
I really appreciate any help offered.
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Try to execute su -c "umount /storage/extSdCard"
It worked flawlessly in my case.
Thanks Archi. I was wandering around looking for a solution to the problem with my sd(I'm nooo0b if it goes about Linux/Android ). My Archidroid 2.3.3 did not recognized/mount my external card, so after following your instructions (using the terminal in android) now I can enjoy my 64gb sd card.. Great job!
JustArchi said:
Try to execute su -c "umount /storage/extSdCard"
It worked flawlessly in my case.
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Ok. That worked. Thanks.
I then tried (su -c "fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk1")
Then...press m for help...or pressing "o" gets me a syntax error.
I have attached a screenshot.
Thanks again
Ryan
Hottot2 said:
Ok. That worked. Thanks.
I then tried (su -c "fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk1")
Then...press m for help...or pressing "o" gets me a syntax error.
I have attached a screenshot.
Thanks again
Ryan
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Okay, you're user, not root. This is a weird android shell, that's why.
Try to use "su -i" to get root shell, then use fdisk (without su).
JustArchi said:
Okay, you're user, not root. This is a weird android shell, that's why.
Try to use "su -i" to get root shell, then use fdisk (without su).
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Still didnt work. After typing "su -I" the next line still says "[email protected]:/$"
I was thinking I could try a reinstall of shell terminal emulator...or perhaps you could recommend a different one to use.
I will try again later tonight.
Thanks
Ryan
Hottot2 said:
Still didnt work. After typing "su -I" the next line still says "[email protected]:/$"
I was thinking I could try a reinstall of shell terminal emulator...or perhaps you could recommend a different one to use.
I will try again later tonight.
Thanks
Ryan
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Try android terminal emulator, you must gain root shell. Typically "su" command does that, "su -l" should as well.
JustArchi said:
Try android terminal emulator, you must gain root shell. Typically "su" command does that, "su -l" should as well.
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Alright...typed su and gained root....got through ttothe last step.
I typed "mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1"
and the result was: "mke2fs: invalid option -- t"
I have trying to read about mke2fs and the -t option but no luck so far.
Thanks
Ryan
Hello Archi and thanx for the tutorial
I followed all the steps, done it to the end, but after reboot I couldn't make any folder on SD card.
Card is recognized, formated as EXT4, but for some reason there is no way to put anything to it
Tried again with gparted, ended with same result.
Tried to change ownership, but that also didn't work out...
Now i reverted card to fat32...
Any idea what could be wrong?
btw, using NeatROM 4.4.2 with boeffla kernel and Philz 6.00.8
thanx in advance
Tom-Tom07 said:
Hello Archi and thanx for the tutorial
I followed all the steps, done it to the end, but after reboot I couldn't make any folder on SD card.
Card is recognized, formated as EXT4, but for some reason there is no way to put anything to it
Tried again with gparted, ended with same result.
Tried to change ownership, but that also didn't work out...
Now i reverted card to fat32...
Any idea what could be wrong?
btw, using NeatROM 4.4.2 with boeffla kernel and Philz 6.00.8
thanx in advance
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Ext4 support is broken in your rom.
Hottot2 said:
Alright...typed su and gained root....got through ttothe last step.
I typed "mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1"
and the result was: "mke2fs: invalid option -- t"
I have trying to read about mke2fs and the -t option but no luck so far.
Thanks
Ryan
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Your rom doesn't support mke2fs properly.

Mount EXT4 MicroSD Card

I've given up on reformatting the internal memory as EXT4 (my last post). However now, I want to mount an external SD card that is EXT4 (or any file format that has UNIX permissions). I can't get my device to mount the card, it says the filesystem is unsupported. Now, that's bull**** since Android has built in support for EXT. After searching threads here on XDA and Google, and even purchasing EzyMount as recommended, I can't get it to mount. I've tried BusyBox and mount commands (as root), with various errors such as "mount operation not supported on transport endpoint". I'm at my wit's end by now, trying to get some filesystem which has support for symlinks and UNIX permissions... any ideas?
kcattakcaz said:
I've given up on reformatting the internal memory as EXT4 (my last post). However now, I want to mount an external SD card that is EXT4 (or any file format that has UNIX permissions). I can't get my device to mount the card, it says the filesystem is unsupported. Now, that's bull**** since Android has built in support for EXT. After searching threads here on XDA and Google, and even purchasing EzyMount as recommended, I can't get it to mount. I've tried BusyBox and mount commands (as root), with various errors such as "mount operation not supported on transport endpoint". I'm at my wit's end by now, trying to get some filesystem which has support for symlinks and UNIX permissions... any ideas?
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you fully rooted with custom kernel or only with rdlv etc?
First you gotta figure out how to mount this damn thing, gotta be possible.
Then you need to get this done on bootup, either in init.rc or init.d or smth.
You probably just use wrong commands? But I could be wrong, didnt try that yet but would also be interested. Having the file permissions also on SD would be nice, but it could cause trouble with mtp maybe?
zroice said:
you fully rooted with custom kernel or only with rdlv etc?
First you gotta figure out how to mount this damn thing, gotta be possible.
Then you need to get this done on bootup, either in init.rc or init.d or smth.
You probably just use wrong commands? But I could be wrong, didnt try that yet but would also be interested. Having the file permissions also on SD would be nice, but it could cause trouble with mtp maybe?
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I am rooted, but stock ROM and kernel. MTP is for connecting to a computer? If it is, I don't need that. I have tried
mount -rw -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /storage/extStorageCard
and variants switching the flags and options.
Interesting... I just typed that command in to make sure I didn't make any typos.... and my phone crashed and rebooted. I typed it again to see if it would cause another crash and it appears to have mounted the card! Whwn I type "df" at the prompt it now shows a 28.6 GB filesystem at that location, which has to be my sd card.
Why, how, I don't know. It works, it's all I can say.

Link2SD on Amazon Fire TV

Problem statement
The Amazon Fire TV has a limited memory sotrage of less than 5GB.
FolderMount allows for moving App data/obb to a USB device. Remaining components of the App, which sometimes are the larger part of the app, can't be transfered using
These remaining components can be 100s of MB and even above 1GB (Sine Mora is 292MB, Walking Dead is 1.14GB)
Solution
Link2SD allows for moving these components to an external SD card in the phone world. Below I'll describe how to do this on the Amazon Fire TV with a USB device.
This post heavily relies on tweaking a post by sashavasko. Major kudos to him. Up to finding his post I was not successful in mounting in a way that Link2SD could see the mount. This was due to a change in Android 4.2+ where one App's mounting isn't seen by others.
Below is a step by step guide for running this. I've posted a script for automating this here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54601505&postcount=33
Requirements: Root, Mouse, Terminal Application
Step 0 - Preparations : Format a USB device to the Ext4 File system and install Link2SD
Ext4
Link2SD refers to parititoning your SDcard to both Ext4 and FAT, this is not required on our USB device. All we need is an Ext4 partiton we can mount for Link2SD.
I had a high end USB device I used for FolderMount. For testing, I got a 16GB Lexar Jump Drive, which got decent reviews. $8 at Staples ( even less with the right coupon. Other sizes are also cheap). Both went into my Powered USB hub.
You can also partition a single FAT32 USB device to two partitons - FAT32 and Ext4. I have verified both options. Please note that for this second option, if you already have files on your FAT32 USB device, you'd have to first copy them to a backup, as the partitioning trashes your data. You will then need to restore the backed up files to the FAT partition.
Format/Partition your USB device to Ext4 using free MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition on your Desktop/Laptop. Below is a nice post on this (Refer only to step 1), you can find others. Please note that this refers to an SDCard. We will be doing this on a USB device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37405779&postcount=1
In partitioning, please verify the partitions are created as Primary. Also, not sure is this is required, but I didn't name my partitions.
There are also linux commands to do this - I didn't investigate these.
Stick the Ext4 partitoned USB device into your Amazon Fire TV and power it up. We will need the device in for Step 2.
Link2SD
Download Link2SD from the Google Play store, or sideload it
Make the directory Link2SD requires
Code:
su
mkdir /data/sdext2
exit
Step 1 - Fix adb localhost
Follow step 1 in sashavasko's post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45102645&postcount=1
Note1:
You will need a terminal app for this
Note2:
This step should only be run once. Running multiple times can mess the /data/misc/adb/adb_keys file as the key values will concatenate with sashavasko's method. This will cause mounting at boot not to work. If you did this or not sure if you've done this, just erase the duplicate keys from the /data/misc/adb/adb_keys file (the end of a single key is "[email protected] ). Or, better yet, if you aren't seeing any other different keys there - simply su and copy /sdcard/.android/adbkey.pub onto this file.
Step 2 - Install scripts
Follow step 2 in sashavasko's post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45102645&postcount=1
Note 1
Look for your Ext4 partitoned device after running:
Code:
adb shell cat /proc/partitions
You should find the Ext4 device under /device/block starting with sd.
For example: My first USB device is sda1, the Ext4 partitoned one was sdb1 (sdb2 when the Lexar drive was partitoned to FAT32 and Ext4).
You should be able to recognize the devices according to their partition sizes.
Note 2
The msd2.sh file should be changed to be:
Code:
#!/system/bin/sh
mount -t ext4 [COLOR="Purple"]/dev/block/[/COLOR][COLOR="Red"]sdb1[/COLOR][COLOR="purple"] /data/sdext2 [/COLOR]&& sleep 5 && /system/bin/vold
where the sdb1 device should be replaced by the device you located in Note 1.
Step 3 - Test the script and grant su permissions
Run this (no su command required, no path to the sd.sh file is required)
Code:
sd.sh
Verify you aren't seeing any errors. You will be granting SU permissions.
Run Link2SD. Go to the menu at the top right. Select "Storage Info" - Verify Link2SD recognizes the Ext4 partiton in the third line (under SD Card 2nd Part. ).
Step 4 - Auto Mount at initialization
For this I'm using the /system/etc/install-recovery.sh script which you should already have. This script loads at boot and calls /system/etc/install-recovery-2.sh (a non existent file).
Create a file at /sdcard/install-recovery-2.sh which contains
Code:
#!/system/bin/sh
/system/xbin/sd.sh
Now move the file to its place:
Code:
su
mount -o rw,remount /system
cp /sdcard/install-recovery-2.sh /system/etc/
chmod 755 /system/etc/install-recovery-2.sh
mount -o ro,remount /system
exit
Now Reboot (Long press remote Select + Play)
Step 5 - Link2SD ready to go
Open Link2SD to verify (as you verified before) that after boot Link2SD sees the Ext4 partiton.
Start moving files using Link2SD :
Select an App
Go to "Create Link" - You will be asked which file types to move. Check them all (not the paid option if you haven't paid).
Link2SD will show "Creating Link...", then an advert (in the non payed version) and then: Application files linked and moved to SD card
Note the expected storage change in the Amazon Fire TV's "About" menu option will be seen after Rebooting.
"Remove Link" works properly
"Move to SD card" is not relevant
Final Words
Don't use this to move system apps, or system-like apps
Responsibly for running this is solely on you. I am only describing what works for me.
Works great thanks
I'd love to see a standalone app for installing this.
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The msd2.sh file mentioned in Step2/Note2 is used to create a fake external SD Ext4 partition for Link2SD.
You can also use it to create a fake external SD FAT partition at /storage/sdcard1 for FolderMount.
FolderMount automatically recognizes this partition and suggests this as the initial path for its destination path suggestion.
In my case - sda1 is the FAT partition (For me - a USB stick fully formatted to FAT32), and sdb1 is the ext4 formatted USB stick. The same should work with a single partitioned USB stick (but different sd* device names - see original post).
The updated msd2.sh file looks like:
Code:
#!/system/bin/sh
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]mount -t vfat /dev/block/[COLOR="Red"]sda1[/COLOR] /storage/sdcard1[/COLOR] && mount -t ext4 [COLOR="Magenta"]/dev/block/[/COLOR][COLOR="Red"]sdb1[/COLOR] [COLOR="Magenta"]/data/sdext2[/COLOR] && sleep 5 && /system/bin/vold
SaltyCookie_OnLoan2FM_SVE said:
The msd2.sh file mentioned in Step2/Note2 is used to create a fake external SD Ext4 partition for Link2SD.
You can also use it to create a fake external SD FAT partition at /storage/sdcard1 for FolderMount.
FolderMount automatically recognizes this partition and suggests this as the initial path for its destination path suggestion.
In my case - sda1 is the FAT partition (For me - a USB stick fully formatted to FAT32), and sdb1 is the ext4 formatted USB stick. The same should work with a single partitioned USB stick (but different sd* device names - see original post).
The updated msd2.sh file looks like:
Code:
#!/system/bin/sh
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]mount -t vfat /dev/block/[COLOR="Red"]sda1[/COLOR] /storage/sdcard1[/COLOR] && mount -t ext4 [COLOR="Magenta"]/dev/block/[/COLOR][COLOR="Red"]sdb1[/COLOR] [COLOR="Magenta"]/data/sdext2[/COLOR] && sleep 5 && /system/bin/vold
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The one annoying thing about this is during boot it will read the entire partition. This in turn in my case makes booting the Fire TV really slow. Lets hope I dont have to reboot much because it now takes around 2-3 minutes to boot up.
MadFlava said:
I'd love to see a standalone app for installing this.
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I 2nd this. This is as close as we're gonna get to downloading Apps, ets., straight to an attached external drive but I know enough about this stuff to be somewhat intimidated by the initial instructions. Not that they're not clear, it just looks like I'd have too many avenues to brick my box.
Still...very good work OP. Thanks again.
MarkBP said:
I 2nd this. This is as close as we're gonna get to downloading Apps, ets., straight to an attached external drive but I know enough about this stuff to be somewhat intimidated by the initial instructions. Not that they're not clear, it just looks like I'd have too many avenues to brick my box.
Still...very good work OP. Thanks again.
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Come on guys, this is XDA developers
OK, I have this brewing. Should post it by tomorrow.
awesome. how easy is it to reverse this entire process? I'd really like to know the risks before I take the plunge
I think the process can be greatly simplified. On my computer I created install-recovery-2.sh with the two lines below:
#!/system/bin/sh
mount -t vfat /dev/block/sda1 /storage/sdcard1 && mount -t ext4 /dev/block/sda2 /data/sdext2 && /system/bin/vold
Then I connected via adb to the fireTV from my computer.
Then an adb push of install-recovery-2.sh to /sdcard and then did an adb shell to the fireTV from my computer and su once there.
Copied from install-recovery-2.sh from /sdcard to /system/etc
Did a chmod 755 on the file to make it executable and then rebooted and all seems to be working well with partitions recognized.
tselling said:
I think the process can be greatly simplified. On my computer I created install-recovery-2.sh with the two lines below:
#!/system/bin/sh
mount -t vfat /dev/block/sda1 /storage/sdcard1 && mount -t ext4 /dev/block/sda2 /data/sdext2 && /system/bin/vold
Then I connected via adb to the fireTV from my computer.
Then an adb push of install-recovery-2.sh to /sdcard and then did an adb shell to the fireTV from my computer and su once there.
Copied from install-recovery-2.sh from /sdcard to /system/etc
Did a chmod 755 on the file to make it executable and then rebooted and all seems to be working well with partitions recognized.
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Just tried this, didn't work for me (mount not detected).
- tselling, is Link2sd working with this ?
- If someone is working succesfully with Link2sd using tselling's method please report back. This is indeed a shorter route.
failed for me for tselling method
SaltyCookie_OnLoan2FM_SVE said:
Just tried this, didn't work for me (mount not detected).
- tselling, is Link2sd working with this ?
- If someone is working succesfully with Link2sd using tselling's method please report back. This is indeed a shorter route.
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Link2sd found ok and I linked sevzero without problems. Should note that I use sda1 and sda2 for fat32 in first primary partition and ext4 on second primary pzrtition of same usb flash drive. Any other setup would need to have different script to match your drive setup.
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why does this need more than 1 partition to work anyways? Is it just because the app requires it for some weird reason?
edit: also which partition needs to be the bigger one? do the sizes matter? and does stickmount need to be disabled for this to work?
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meadtj said:
why does this need more than 1 partition to work anyways? Is it just because the app requires it for some weird reason?
edit: also which partition needs to be the bigger one? do the sizes matter? and does stickmount need to be disabled for this to work?
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why does this need more than 1 partition to work anyways? - Link2sd description in play store:
What you need for linking apps:
● root permission.
● a second partition on your SD card.
You should have two partitions on SD card and both should be primary.
The first FAT partition is your standard SD card storage. The second partition is used for application files and can be ext2, ext3, ext4, f2fs or FAT.
You need to use a non-FAT file system (ext2, ext3, ext4 or f2fs) on your second partition in order to link app's private data files. Because the FAT file system (FAT16, FAT32 or exFAT) does not support UNIX file ownership or permissions and will cause a security breakdown of app's private files.
Link2SD Plus can move app's private data files if you have a non-FAT partition
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So we may be able to use FAT (haven't tried it) but we will lose some moving capabilities.
From my testing - FolderMount does work with the ext4 partiton, so I need two partitions (or 2 usb sticks).
also which partition needs to be the bigger one? - No restriction. Allocate as per your decision and experience with storage costs of apps.
do the sizes matter? - Don't believe her. It does.
Sorry. Uncalled for. Apologies. Not personal. I just had to.
and does stickmount need to be disabled for this to work? - No, it doesn't
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tselling said:
Link2sd found ok and I linked sevzero without problems. Should note that I use sda1 and sda2 for fat32 in first primary partition and ext4 on second primary pzrtition of same usb flash drive. Any other setup would need to have different script to match your drive setup.
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Ok, let's try and minimize this. Could it be due to tselling using a single partitioned USB drive, while I'm using two drives ?
I need a report back from someone with a single USB drive who tried tselling's simpler approach. If it failed - Maybe tselling added something along that he wasn't aware of. If it passed - Maybe that's a requirement for the simpler approach.
In other news, the script to automate this is take slightly more than I thought, due to unix-android differences (I come from a unix background). That, and the fact that we may have a simpler solution is delaying me. Oh, also had to stay late at work yesterday, Oooh and the dog ate my laptop.
What about Foldermount?
What about FolderMount for Data and OBB files? Can I still use it with Link2SD on same card?
SaltyCookie_OnLoan2FM_SVE said:
Ok, let's try and minimize this. Could it be due to tselling using a single partitioned USB drive, while I'm using two drives ?
I need a report back from someone with a single USB drive who tried tselling's simpler approach. If it failed - Maybe tselling added something along that he wasn't aware of. If it passed - Maybe that's a requirement for the simpler approach.
In other news, the script to automate this is take slightly more than I thought, due to unix-android differences (I come from a unix background). That, and the fact that we may have a simpler solution is delaying me. Oh, also had to stay late at work yesterday, Oooh and the dog ate my laptop.
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I think it has to do with the mount points. I have the ext4 partition mounted to /data/ext2 where I think link2sd looks. I think that you could use an entire usb stick with one partition as ext4 mounted to /data/ext2 but your script would change
FROM
##############################################################################################
#!/system/bin/sh
mount -t vfat /dev/block/sda1 /storage/sdcard1 && mount -t ext4 /dev/block/sda2 /data/sdext2 && /system/bin/vold
#############################################################################################
TO
###################################################
#!/system/bin/sh
mount -t ext4 /dev/block/sda1 /data/sdext2 && /system/bin/vold
###################################################
However, I have not tried this. I may try this later today since I have a second fireTV and usb stick arriving today.
also, I am planning to use foldermount with the first fat32 partition I created, but I haven't gotten that far as I want to use the Pro version but need the play store loaded first.
OOPS, I did forget one part "mkdir /data/sdext2" (otherwise the mount fails).
tselling said:
I think it has to do with the mount points. I have the ext4 partition mounted to /data/ext2 where I think link2sd looks. I think that you could use an entire usb stick with one partition as ext4 mounted to /data/ext2 but your script would change
FROM
##############################################################################################
#!/system/bin/sh
mount -t vfat /dev/block/sda1 /storage/sdcard1 && mount -t ext4 /dev/block/sda2 /data/sdext2 && /system/bin/vold
#############################################################################################
TO
###################################################
#!/system/bin/sh
mount -t ext4 /dev/block/sda1 /data/sdext2 && /system/bin/vold
###################################################
However, I have not tried this. I may try this later today since I have a second fireTV and usb stick arriving today.
also, I am planning to use foldermount with the first fat32 partition I created, but I haven't gotten that far as I want to use the Pro version but need the play store loaded first.
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tselling said:
OOPS, I did forget one part "mkdir /data/ext2" (otherwise the mount fails).
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i did that too but still didnt work, maybe bc i have 3 partitions. Fat then Ext2 then NTFS
meadtj said:
i did that too but still didnt work, maybe bc i have 3 partitions. Fat then Ext2 then NTFS
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Sorry, the directory is /data/sdext2
Your mount command is:
mount -t ext4 /dev/block/sda2 /data/sdext2 && /system/bin/vold
Also I am not 100% sure that ext2 filesystem works. ext4 works for sure.

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