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Can we... CHANGE IT?
:|!!!!!!
Is there a difference with a microsd? I hadn't heard of "eMMC" before....
So that means we can manually expand internal memory? seriously, it'd be awesome!
Like I said last week when looking at the teardown pics, I knew it was an micro-sd card you could tell by the shape
shootomanUK said:
Like I said last week when looking at the teardown pics, I knew it was an micro-sd card you could tell by the shape
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****ing awesome... this got me really excited xD
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renatofontes said:
Can we... CHANGE IT?
:|!!!!!!
Is there a difference with a microsd? I hadn't heard of "eMMC" before....
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Here
helinhof said:
Here
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I googled it but still had doubt's, that's why I asked.
helinhof said:
So that means we can manually expand internal memory? seriously, it'd be awesome!
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I don't know if this should be so easy... This is info is from areamobile.de. In this page they comment this:
[UPDATE] On request, Motorola has confirmed the use of an eMMC memory card in the Moto G. A change of memory card would not help, because the operating system can not simply be transferred from the original memory card to a larger, new card. For this you need special hardware that the manufacturers flash their systems to the required memory, explained Mr Schnieth, technicians from the repair service Smartphone clinic in Berlin.
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Should be great if we could buy 8GB version and change the memory for a 64GB one...
There is no such thing as an eMMC card. eMMC are BGA chips normally. You can get eMMC chips on microSD boards but they wouldn't fit in the area shown on the mainboard. And even if it's a mistranslation and they really meant microSD card then a card would only fit upside down with the contacts pointing upwards. How would that work?
I think some wires have become crossed somewhere as the information doesn't make an awful lot of sense. The only way to be 100% sure is for somebody to remove the metal cover to see what exactly is underneath.
flibblesan said:
There is no such thing as an eMMC card. eMMC are BGA chips normally. You can get eMMC chips on microSD boards but they wouldn't fit in the area shown on the mainboard. And even if it's a mistranslation and they really meant microSD card then a card would only fit upside down with the contacts pointing upwards. How would that work?
I think some wires have become crossed somewhere as the information doesn't make an awful lot of sense. The only way to be 100% sure is for somebody to remove the metal cover to see what exactly is underneath.
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I want to open up my phone and see what is inside.... But sadly I have a very busy weekend ahead of me. I'll probably do it on monday. =)
renatofontes said:
I want to open up my phone and see what is inside.... But sadly I have a very busy weekend ahead of me. I'll probably do it on monday. =)
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You are rather brave
Emmc should be faster than a class 10 microsd
card.
So basically, (the one question we all wonder) can we replace this with a bigger one ?
Like American.Graffiti said, can we go from 8/16G to 32 for example ?
xmattjus said:
A regular eMMC card
costs A LOT of money (at ** Components the 32GB model costs €96!), and the one Moto G has probably costs more than a regular chip..
Is it worth it? I don't think so..
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We can try a regular cheap one to see if it actually works in the first place. Take out the old one, put it in a reader, copy files to a new one and replace
I'm a little confused.... so the microsd on the image was just for size comparison?
Yes, i guess so.
I got tricked too :shame: that's why i asked the question (i just thought to salvage my phone in order to replace the microSD card).
Kameo said:
Yes, i guess so.
I got tricked too :shame: that's why i asked the question (i just thought to salvage my phone in order to replace the microSD card).
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I think more, it's a Toshiba eMMC Chip with 8/16GB. I've seen eMMC-Cards..and they are much greater then the Micro-SD/MMC Formfactor.
http://goo.gl/6sP1tF << As far i understood the Tech of the Shop where i get my Stuff, is this the Chip Moto G uses. 8GB MMC v 4.51 with the Busarchitecture HS200 (200mb/sec, but capped per Hardware)
eMMC for Motorola G
eMMC production company?
Silly people....
eMMC is an IC and not a slot-load card like MicroSD is.
eMMC are used in just about every phone for their /system, /cache, /data etc. partitions.
The metal cover with the blue dot on the photos is just a shielding for an IC laying underneath, which is not even the eMMC IC lol.
I want the moderator to ban me.
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Hi,
I found this thing :
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6108
Anyone has that?
Does it work with MicroSDHC card (6 GB or 8 GB) ?
Thanks.
gogol said:
Hi,
I found this thing :
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6108
Anyone has that?
Does it work with MicroSDHC card (6 GB or 8 GB) ?
Thanks.
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This is ridiculously small. It's fantastic, I'm sold on getting one.
Your question was answered on the website at the bottom.
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The factory says yes but we don't have such card here to test for it. If you're intending to use it for 4GB tf only, then I suggest you to wait for our in-house test confirmation first.
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Just curious, does it matter at all that it doesn't say SDHC compatible? Will it slow down data transfers? I saw one similiar on mobileplanet, but didn't order because of that.
I got this one instead: http://sandisk.com/Products/Catalog(1385)-SanDisk_MobileMate_Micro_Readers.aspx
It has the same type of keychain, and is very small as well. But, it says microSD, microSDHC, and M2 compatible.
I've got a smaller one, £5 off ebay. Be careful though, they can bend and could cause damage to your MicroSD.
http://alfa-media.com/products/mccr.html
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gogol said:
Hi,
I found this thing :
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6108
Anyone has that?
Does it work with MicroSDHC card (6 GB or 8 GB) ?
Thanks.
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thats not the smallest one, also, it will fall apart easily, I had a few.
kms
vijay555 said:
I've got a smaller one, £5 off ebay. Be careful though, they can bend and could cause damage to your MicroSD.
http://alfa-media.com/products/mccr.html
V
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now this is the smalest one, mine is by adata, its also the fastest.
it's a shame you need to buy the adata one with a 1GB or 2GB.
do you have a link, I wanna get a few more, i had mine for about half a year, just want to have some more for spare.
kms
Yeah, I think it's the same hardware. It's extremely useful for sucking off data from pcs that you shouldn't be touching, as the device can be barely seen protruding from a USB port.
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vijay555 said:
Yeah, I think it's the same hardware. It's extremely useful for sucking off data from pcs that you shouldn't be touching, as the device can be barely seen protruding from a USB port.
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link please on ebay.
kms
Vijay,
But it does not say that it supports MicroSDHC, especially 6 GB and 8 GB.
However, it is really the smallest!
vijay555 said:
I've got a smaller one, £5 off ebay. Be careful though, they can bend and could cause damage to your MicroSD.
http://alfa-media.com/products/mccr.html
V
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kms,
Can you use your adata reader with 6GB and 8GB MicroSDHC?
kms108 said:
now this is the smalest one, mine is by adata, its also the fastest.
it's a shame you need to buy the adata one with a 1GB or 2GB.
do you have a link, I wanna get a few more, i had mine for about half a year, just want to have some more for spare.
kms
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I can't remember where I got it.
(see attached pic)
Been working great.
Here's links to something similar:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3032395&CatId=1579
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211154
http://www.amazon.com/DATA-MICRO-Reader-microSD-interface/dp/B000VE2PCG
berdinkerdickle said:
I can't remember where I got it.
(see attached pic)
Been working great.
Here's links to something similar:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3032395&CatId=1579
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211154
http://www.amazon.com/DATA-MICRO-Reader-microSD-interface/dp/B000VE2PCG
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thanks, I can get the adata one's in hong kong, but it's useless for me to buy the adata version with 1 GB or 2GB, i have no use for the memory card, to be honest , all my 1GB and 2GB microsd that I have , has all been given away, my smallest ones are 4GB now.
Vijay say's he got it from ebay for 5 USD, that's why i asked.
@gogol
it does not have to actually stated it for it to support it, search the forum for my test on micro sd, then you will get your anwser.
kms
kms
Only $0.01 per piece :
http://www.usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=282
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung...-10-1-30-pin-to-usb-30-pin-to-sd-slot-219891/
I haven't seen this any place else. Hope it helps someone....
EDIT- probably the wrong section-- sorry.
That looks great, thanks for the heads up.
Sure. I haven't seen them anyplace else.... just got email confirmation its Samsung oem
does anyone know where I can find only the SD adapter, I already have the usb adapter, look like the link above only sells a combo pack. I know I can probably buy a normal USB SD adapter, and connect that using the USB adapter, but i would rahter have a seprate USB SD adapter, not some really long thing sticking out of the tab
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not some really long thing sticking out of the tab
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The SD and USB adapters are the same size. It's two separate units that use the same cap to protect their 30 pin plugs for storage.
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does anyone know where I can find only the SD adapter, I already have the usb adapter, look like the link above only sells a combo pack. I know I can probably buy a normal USB SD adapter, and connect that using the USB adapter, but i would rahter have a seprate USB SD adapter, not some really long thing sticking out of the tab
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Try looking at Euro stores.... that's where Expansys told me they were getting theirs.
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The SD and USB adapters are the same size. It's two separate units that use the same cap to protect their 30 pin plugs for storage.
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Actually, they aren't both the same size. They both stick out from the tablet the same distance (length) but the SD card reader is wider than the USB reader.
The SD card reader is for a full size SD card.....
pdxrealtor said:
Actually, they aren't both the same size. They both stick out from the tablet the same distance (length) but the SD card reader is wider than the USB reader.
The SD card reader is for a full size SD card.....
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This is correct. The SD reader is slightly larger.
pdxrealtor said:
but the SD card reader is wider than the USB reader.
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I stand corrected...
@pdxrealtor:
Excellent find, just ordered one for myself, though I think that the 10.1 will soon be replaced with the Transformer, dunno why is the Transformer is selling like hot cakes when compared to the 10.1, there must be a REASON!
Glad it helped.
I'm frustrated not with the 10.1 specifically but the tabs in general.
I tried to take an excel spread sheet in the field today- none of the office programs support check boxes.
Tried to take some pictures and then insert them into a pre formatted word document- no dice--
Think I might need a net book
Willy318is said:
@pdxrealtor:
Excellent find, just ordered one for myself, though I think that the 10.1 will soon be replaced with the Transformer, dunno why is the Transformer is selling like hot cakes when compared to the 10.1, there must be a REASON!
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Duh price, people dont care about anything but how much sonething costs
For what it's worth. I was at best buy on sunday and they had at least 6 of the USB adapters..
can the tab benefit from a class 10 SD card or is that overkill?
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I stand corrected...
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Dude, your manicure is crazy good.
Thanks, but not my hand....
First of all hi, I'm new here
I'm searching for the Micro SD Card already installed in my LG G2(16GB), I know that this phone doesnt have Micro SD Slot, but there !MUST! be a Micro SD Card. For example same situation was with my HTC Surround, there was no additional SD Card Slot, but when I dissambled the phone i found the slot, chandet SD card with new 32 GB card and everything worked very well.
so please help, and sorry for my English, I know I made a lot of mistakes
Don't think it's like that in the G2. Internal memory is not an SD card but a memory module soldered directly onto the motherboard.
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I know that this phone doesnt have Micro SD Slot
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I think you got it right in that sentence I'm afraid. Memory is usually soldered straight to the main board in the phone.. Not removable or replaceable.. I may be wrong but that's 99% likely from what I know..
So sorry but you're stuck with what you've got!
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robogo1982 said:
Don't think it's like that in the G2. Internal memory is not an SD card but a memory module soldered directly onto the motherboard.
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th3ant said:
I think you got it right in that sentence I'm afraid. Memory is usually soldered straight to the main board in the phone.. Not removable or replaceable.. I may be wrong but that's 99% likely from what I know..
So sorry but you're stuck with what you've got!
Sent from my LG-D802 using XDA Free mobile app
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thanks
i'm not stuck because i found this phone in airport
gurasa said:
thanks
i'm not stuck because i found this phone in airport
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And I bet you haven't been able to reach the recent call history or anything in order to try to return the device?
khaytsus said:
And I bet you haven't been able to reach the recent call history or anything in order to try to return the device?
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it was in box and totally new, asked few people and then brought home
Lol okay i guess if you keep it have fun with it i guess
Sorry for my English first of all, based on what you have said, you just randomly "picked" it up in the airport out of nowhere, which probably not your fault, ethically.
Now, about the SD card, I'm sure it's there inside the phone, probably right underneath of the PCB board or maybe it's even inside one of those layers. Rip it apart and check it out.
votinh said:
Sorry for my English first of all, based on what you have said, you just randomly "picked" it up in the airport out of nowhere, which probably not your fault, ethically.
Now, about the SD card, I'm sure it's there inside the phone, probably right underneath of the PCB board or maybe it's even inside one of those layers. Rip it apart and check it out.
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thats the thing i'm going to do, i'll rip it apart, cause i already have G3, and if i could manage and change sd card, it would be great gift for my sister
votinh said:
Sorry for my English first of all, based on what you have said, you just randomly "picked" it up in the airport out of nowhere, which probably not your fault, ethically.
Now, about the SD card, I'm sure it's there inside the phone, probably right underneath of the PCB board or maybe it's even inside one of those layers. Rip it apart and check it out.
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Agreed. But make sure you take all of the shields etc off to make sure it's not hiding under one of them.
Its invisable.
before you mess up the device
<common sense mode on>
don't you think someone would already found it and post the image on the internet and the news would be allover the android portals? (xda, android central ...)
<common sense mode off>
which variant of the g2 is it?
because i think that only korean variant has a separate micro sd cart slot
anyway, let us know how it went
are you guys being trolls or have no common sense. Only the Korea model has the SDcard slot and removable battery. Since you found it laying in it's original box, read the manual that came with it.
Khant said:
are you guys being trolls or have no common sense. Only the Korea model has the SDcard slot and removable battery. Since you found it laying in it's original box, read the manual that came with it.
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Clearly we're trolling a phone thief. Stop ruining our fun.
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Clearly we're trolling a phone thief. Stop ruining our fun.
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he isn't a thief he found it. maybe he should have turned it in but he didn't steal it.
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he isn't a thief he found it. maybe he should have turned it in but he didn't steal it.
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returned the phone to its owner jane smith after 2 weeks (someone posted a thread on droidforums.net), it was a birthday gift, for her husband
they showed the bill for the phone and the imei number was the same as on the box
now please with my uncles G2 here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257421&page=2653#post62074967
sorry for the late answer
Is there any chance to upgrade memory or add extra microsd slot for LG G2 16 GB version?
I am running out space and this is only one thing which I dont like with my phone, I spend lots of time to find best ROM and to customize everyting for my need.
I was thinking about upgrading to galaxy s7 but I havent got time to customizing again everything, and I guess original ROM will be slower and slower with time, even on such a new phone like S7.
thanks for help
feeling7 said:
Is there any chance to upgrade memory or add extra microsd slot for LG G2 16 GB version?
I am running out space and this is only one thing which I dont like with my phone, I spend lots of time to find best ROM and to customize everyting for my need.
I was thinking about upgrading to galaxy s7 but I havent got time to customizing again everything, and I guess original ROM will be slower and slower with time, even on such a new phone like S7.
thanks for help
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You spend a lot of time to find best ROM and customize everything for your need, and yet you haven't got time to customize an S7, if you got one?!
And which phone doesn't get slower and slower with time?
You don't need a phone!
rdasante said:
You spend a lot of time to find best ROM and customize everything for your need, and yet you haven't got time to customize an S7, if you got one?!
And which phone doesn't get slower and slower with time?
You don't need a phone!
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No I havent got time for this,
which one is not getting slower and slower ? my LG G2 is same like it was in 2014 but only when I am using my ROM, on the original one probably would be different.
Ok so I dropped my LG G2 and the Otterbox Defender didn't do **** all to prevent the phone from promptly turning off, stop responding to charging and literally wouldn't turn on except for every now and again the camera flash would turn on for no reason.
So I replaced the motherboard, good as new, BUT all my stuff is gone, so obviously it was all stored on the MB, I was wondering if I could melt off the old memory module and put it onto my new MB? Just don't know which is which. We're talking irreplaceable years of my son's life here, will stop at nothing
NAND chip must be located under the back keys pad:
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NAND chip must be located under the back keys pad:
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The big black one? Could someone that knows what they're doing desolder that and put it onto a working MB? Would that work? What do you think would be the best course of action to recover the data from it? On the back of the MB there's a metal casing with something thin inside it, and it looks VERY much like a micro SD card, do you think the data is there instead?
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The big black one? Could someone that knows what they're doing desolder that and put it onto a working MB? Would that work? What do you think would be the best course of action to recover the data from it? On the back of the MB there's a metal casing with something thin inside it, and it looks VERY much like a micro SD card, do you think the data is there instead?
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(Ignore the red circle, just happens to be the pic I found of the other side of the board.)
It looks like the memory is on the other side. Hynix is a known memory chip maker. Also, it looks like a BGA (from the low res pic it is hard to tell, but very likely). You cannot simply "desolder" a BGA chip. If it is that important to you, you need professional help. Even then, it will likely be pricey.
Toshiba chip is the NAND, memory chip on the other side of the board is the RAM, and it's placed on top of Snapdragon 800 SoC. BGA NAND package is possible to replace in theory, using an IR soldering station with precise temperature control. If overheated, the chip will get damaged. First, the boards must be thermo-shielded to protect other components, then both chips have to be removed from main boards, then boards and chips must be cleaned thoroughly (from old solder and flux, there is a technique to do that), then the good chip must be re-balled (special stencil for re-balling the NAND is needed) and soldered in place using the same IR station. I used to do this on computer motherboards in the past, but phone main board is much smaller. Not sure if the standard BGA replacement method will work on it. No repair center will give you any warranty on this work. There is a good chance to end up with 2 dead boards. You need to start making backup copies of everything that is important to you.
Hi guys,
Apparently I purchased a counterfeit LG V20 and I can't get it fixed by LG. The charging port is no good. So you either have to find someone who can micro solder it or buy a new motherboard.
LG sent me a pic of what is no good. I have downloaded CPU-Z and have identified the cpu, gpu, storage and camera. However I don't know what they are pointing to in the photo. It is between the rear camera and the front camera. It has a little notch in it like the one in the above photo. Does anybody know what that is. I am posting here because it appears this thread is familiar with this board. Thank you so much.
<img src="https://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx41/joedirt42/A018C6711261_1.jpg" border="0" alt="LG v20 photo A018C6711261_1.jpg"/>
not sure why I can't post this photo
WARNING : DOING THIS WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY. I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG WITH YOUR DEVICE DURING THIS PROCESS.
Hi all, today I disassembled my Elephone S8 to add thermal paste and got a nasty little surprise.
there is in fact a micro SD card slot (like the pre-release rumors ) hidden underneath the motherboard. I put a Samsung 64GB card in there and It worked
I can't say for sure that every Elephone motherboard has it.
Here's my motherboard model No. : L9708-MB-V3
If you do this, let me know if it worked or not.
WARNING : THIS WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY
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That's completely amazing bepari. Can you provide some step by step details for how you go about disassembling/reassembling the phone? I have no idea where to begin!
Plowmanx said:
That's completely amazing bepari. Can you provide some step by step details for how you go about disassembling/reassembling the phone? I have no idea where to begin!
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search on YouTube "Elephone S8 Teardown"
you don't have to take out the battery, just the part you see on my picture (assuming you have the proper tools to disassemble, thin pry tool heat gun etc).
also if you're careful when removing the back cover, you can reuse it.
Wow! This is amazing! I wonder why they chose not to provide an external slot for it.
Too bad I don't have the tools to do this.
Works fine on mine.[emoji106]
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nice
should've put a bigger one in there since it won't be easily accessible.
I don't have the tools or skills but I bet my local phone repair shop does ...
texhno04 said:
nice
should've put a bigger one in there since it won't be easily accessible.
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I didnt do it in lack of space. Just beacuse i could.
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Hidden micro SD slot on Elephone S8
bepari220 said:
WARNING : DOING THIS WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY. I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG WITH YOUR DEVICE DURING THIS PROCESS.
Hi all, today I disassembled my Elephone S8 to add thermal paste and got a nasty little surprise.
there is in fact a micro SD card slot (like the pre-release rumors ) hidden underneath the motherboard. I put a Samsung 64GB card in there and It worked
I can't say for sure that every Elephone motherboard has it.
Here's my motherboard model No. : L9708-MB-V3
If you do this, let me know if it worked or not.
WARNING : THIS WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY
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Works fine on mine too. thanks
Thank you that you shared your expertise!
Very nice! Mine has a cracked display. I did not repair it and buy a Xiaomi Redmi 5 Plus instead. The display pricec are down to 30 bucks by now though wich is why I will revive my S8 nevertheless. Especially since there is an update comming by elephone if the official forum is right. I might as well put a memory card in there while I am at it.
It works!!!
Yes there is a hidden card slot. I put an 64 gb card and everything was fine. Thanks for the post. You have updated elephone s8!
I can't read this, because of xda's ads. They redirect me to a "you have won a iPhone x a iPhone 7 and a unicorn you stupid idiot!" site. So what the f*ck XDA?!
Works!!!?
how big SD card?
Hi - Do you have an idea of how big a SD card it can take?
Do I have to remove the board from the phone? Is it not accessible to insert the SD Card when the back panel and the plastic covering underneath it are removed?
BragaisG said:
Do I have to remove the board from the phone? Is it not accessible to insert the SD Card when the back panel and the plastic covering underneath it are removed?
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you have to remove the board, the slot is located underneath it.
bepari220 said:
you have to remove the board, the slot is located underneath it.
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I see... Thanks! Hopefully I can find the right tools and pull this off.
Worked for me.
In the event that the back cover gets wrecked, does anyone know of anywhere the actually stocks replacements. I have been looking for a week or so without success