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Just returning my z1 due to issues with connectivity and poor camera results. How are people finding the g2, especially if they have any hands on experience with the z1 - speed, ui, camera, build etc?
Cheers peops
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Just returning my z1 due to issues with connectivity and poor camera results. How are people finding the g2, especially if they have any hands on experience with the z1 - speed, ui, camera, build etc?
Cheers peops
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Just returned my z1 because the camera was shocking and viewing angles are the worse I've ever had on any phone. Just ordered one of these so hopefully it will be an improvement as well
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manook said:
Just returned my z1 because the camera was shocking and viewing angles are the worse I've ever had on any phone. Just ordered one of these so hopefully it will be an improvement as well
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Yeh,,bit put off by no microsd though - may go for Note 3
Z1 viewing angles are bad?
Oh dear.. hasn't Sony learnt from the Z?
I heard it's pretty much the same. 20 mp on crap hw. Giant bezels all around. Very nice materials annoying flaps.
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I had pre-ordered Z1 then read the reviews, regarding its size being close to a Note 3, display being better than z but still not as good as a flagship has to be, then cancelled it and pre-ordered LG G2, the only thing which does not impress me about this phone is the speaker output. But rest, every aspect of this phone is amazing!
why does xperia sp score higher benchmark than nexus 4 even though xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs?
russelngo said:
why does xperia sp score higher benchmark than nexus 4 even though xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs?
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Dude what matters you, the benchmarks or the performance?
Performance yeah.. So why care for benchmarks?
What you get from the numbers?? Nothing.. So let them go to heck.!!
What benchmark do you get with Xperia sp? Bwt I will give more with my N4..
Why on earth do you buy phone base on benchmark score?
You can search for benchmark results of both devices on Google.
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Thermal throttle.
Xperia Sp Outshines nexus 4
russelngo said:
why does xperia sp score higher benchmark than nexus 4 even though xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs?
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My dear friend, who said you that xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs.
For your knowledge, xperia sp shares the same qualcomm chipset as nexus has(the snapdragon s4 pro), but with a different model designed for dual core cpu's(msm 8960T) than the nexus quad core designed(apq 8064), it has the very same adreno 320 gpu, but has half the ram nexus has.
The reason for xperia sp scoring way over nexus is because of its low resolution 720p screen rather than 1080p, so it has to process less pixels, hence less workload, and more benchmarks and performance,
But i agree in real life, nexus 4 has a better performance, due to its 2 gigs of ram which is awesome for multitasking, but that doesn't mean xperia sp is an "underdog"
Moreover, with usb otg, expandable storage, and the transparent illumination bar, xperia sp score much better overall in my perspective,
CellSmart! said:
My dear friend, who said you that xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs.
For your knowledge, xperia sp shares the same qualcomm chipset as nexus has(the snapdragon s4 pro), but with a different model designed for dual core cpu's(msm 8960T) than the nexus quad core designed(apq 8064), it has the very same adreno 320 gpu, but has half the ram nexus has.
The reason for xperia sp scoring way over nexus is because of its low resolution 720p screen rather than 1080p, so it has to process less pixels, hence less workload, and more benchmarks and performance,
But i agree in real life, nexus 4 has a better performance, due to its 2 gigs of ram which is awesome for multitasking, but that doesn't mean xperia sp is an "underdog"
Moreover, with usb otg, expandable storage, and the transparent illumination bar, xperia sp score much better overall in my perspective,
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The nexus 4 isn't 1080p...its 720p
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xfrancis14 said:
The nexus 4 isn't 1080p...its 720p
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Oops than, nexus 4 might be a crap, hehe:laugh:
Even moto g bypasses it in terms of benchmarking
I have just got my Nexus 5 few hours ago, and I thought I would give a quick comparison between the Nexus 5 and the Xperia Z1 while waiting for more in depth comparisons from tech sites. I will keep it short and informative.
Look, Feel and size
The Nexus is alot lighter and smaller but the Z1 is more premium. This doesn't mean that the Nexus looks cheap. the Nexus is very good and the Z1 is excellent in the feel but the Nexus is better when looking at the size or weight.
Performance
Benchmarks
I know it means nothing bla bla bla, but people still wants to see them
antutu benchmark X nexus ~26000, Z1 ~35000
quadrant nexus ~8700, Z1 ~21000
sunspider nexus 745ms, Z1 694ms
I am not sure why the nexus 5 scored less (consideribly less for antutu and quadrant) but I think it has to do with ROM stability as the nexus 5 was turned on for the first time few hours ago.
Real life
just done few tests on opening various websites and apps. the Nexus was milliseconds faster on opening almost all websites except one or two where both phones were as fast. However, opening apps were of the same speed for both phones. (keep in mind that the Z1 has alot going in the background while the nexus was clean)
Screen
I tried viewing various photos and videos but couldn't really say which is better. Some photos were better on the Nexus while other were better on the Z1.
the viewing angle were significantly better in the Nexus, but not perfect though.
The brightness of both devices are almost equal.
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Camera
This is quite hard, I do need some more time to say which is better. But initially, the Nexus has better low light image (the images are softer which has advantage of less noise and disadvantage of less details) but the colors are more accurate in the nexus as well. in good light conditions, the Z1 is better in every way.
Speaker
tried playing various sounds in youtube and the Z1 is Alot louder and of better quality than the Nexus.
Battery
I didn't have time to test the battery life of the nexus of course. However, during testing the previous things, the Z1 dropped ~%25 while the Nexus dropped ~%40. Again, I know that the battery tends to get better after couple of charges but the Z1 had lots of apps installed and lots working in the background while the Nexus was clean. Additionally, the Nexus was in airplane mode while the Z1 had the radio working. all in all, I would say the Z1 battery would be better as expected by the battery size and hopefully it will get better after getting 4.4
I should mention that the Nexus 5 was warmer than the Z1 after finishing these tests.
Advantages of the Z1
Better Battery life
Better camera images in good light conditions
Louder speaker
SD card
more premium feel
doesn't get warm as fast
Advantages of the Nexus5
Android 4.4
Better camera images in low light conditions
better viewing angel
smaller and lighter
Both were as good in
Screen quality
Performance
Here is video showing detailed comparision between the Nexus 5 and the Z1 by shem2409 who came up with similar conclusion.
I don't see the nexus 5 significantly better in anyway compared to my Z1 or SGS4. And the 4.4 update doesn't seem to add much (the Z1 doesn't lack anything compared to the nexus 5) 4.3 and 4.4 mostly added performance improvements which won't really benefit us (Z1 users). The Z1 is already powerful enough and I didn't see it lag or stutter not even once. and I couldn't see any differences between the Z1 and Nexus 5 overall performance. 4.4 will benefit low end and mid range phones more than high end ones. We might benefit from battery improvement more than performance improvement.
One more thing...
You did interesting thing but...
4.4 Android is optimised whole lot better than 4.2.2 and you'll get better results when Sony release 4.4 for Z1.
So, if you now think they are similar devices - you can be sure that Z1 powered by KitKat will be faster and smoother than Nexus.
That's all theoretically for now but I'm 100% sure Z1 will become even better device on 4.4...
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I have just got my Nexus 5 few hours ago, and I thought I would give a quick comparison between the Nexus 5 and the Xperia Z1 while waiting for more in depth comparisons from tech sites. I will keep it short and informative.
Look, Feel and size
The Nexus is alot lighter and smaller but the Z1 is more premium. This doesn't mean that the Nexus looks cheap. the Nexus is very good and the Z1 is excellent in the feel but the Nexus is better when looking at the size or weight.
Performance
Benchmarks
I know it means nothing bla bla bla, but people still wants to see them
antutu benchmark X nexus ~26000, Z1 ~35000
quadrant nexus ~8700, Z1 ~21000
sunspider nexus 745ms, Z1 694ms
I am not sure why the nexus 5 scored less (consideribly less for antutu and quadrant) but I think it has to do with ROM stability as the nexus 5 was turned on for the first time few hours ago.
Real life
just done few tests on opening various websites and apps. the Nexus was milliseconds faster on opening almost all websites except one or two where both phones were as fast. However, opening apps were of the same speed for both phones. (keep in mind that the Z1 has alot going in the background while the nexus was clean)
Screen
I tried viewing various photos and videos but couldn't really say which is better. Some photos were better on the Nexus while other were better on the Z1.
the viewing angle were significantly better in the Nexus, but not perfect though.
The brightness is so much better on the Nexus 5. 100% in the Z1 = 40% in the Nexus 5. I am not sure if this because of the recent update which brought the brightness down for the Z1. Anyway, this is not big issue for me, I have my Z1 at 25% all of the time. But again this would probably mean better viewing in sunlight for the Nexus.
Camera
This is quite hard, I do need some more time to say which is better. But initially, the Nexus has better low light image (the images are softer which has advantage of less noise and disadvantage of less details) but the colors are more accurate in the nexus as well. in good light conditions, the Z1 is better in every way.
Speaker
tried playing various sounds in youtube and the Z1 is Alot louder and of better quality than the Nexus.
Battery
I didn't have time to test the battery life of the nexus of course. However, during testing the previous things, the Z1 dropped ~%25 while the Nexus dropped ~%40. Again, I know that the battery tends to get better after couple of charges but the Z1 had lots of apps installed and lots working in the background while the Nexus was clean. Additionally, the Nexus was in airplane mode while the Z1 had the radio working. all in all, I would say the Z1 battery would be better as expected by the battery size and hopefully it will get better after getting 4.4
if anyone wants me to test anything else, please let me know as I will probably be sending this phone tomorrow as I don't see it significantly better in anyway compared to my Z1 or SGS4. And the 4.4 update doesn't seem to add much (the Z1 doesn't lack anything compared to the nexus 5) 4.3 and 4.4 mostly added performance improvements which won't really benefit us (Z1 users). The Z1 is already powerful enough and I didn't see it lag or stutter not even once. and I couldn't see any differences between the Z1 and Nexus 5 overall performance. 4.4 will benefit low end and mid range phones more than high end ones. We might benefit from battery improvement more than performance improvement.
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Thanks for the review/... It seemed to confirm quite a few things about it... BTW, are you in the UK? I'm willing to buy it off you
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One more thing...
You did interesting thing but...
4.4 Android is optimised whole lot better than 4.2.2 and you'll get better results when Sony release 4.4 for Z1.
So, if you now think they are similar devices - you can be sure that Z1 powered by KitKat will be faster and smoother than Nexus.
That's all theoretically for now but I'm 100% sure Z1 will become even better device on 4.4...
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I totally agree with you Z1 runs 4.2 while Nexus runs 4.4 and both are using the same chipset. So there is advatage for the nexus but the Z1 performs on the same level.
I do agree that the Z1 will get faster with 4.4 but I am not sure about smoother because it is already smooth to the highest level, I am not sure if it can get any smoother. in the past we used to look for performance boost from the hardware and the software sides to get smoother phone. But now we won't notice any improvement to the smoothness. what we will get from better software or hardware is just faster loading time of apps, websites, movies ... etc. But still your point is valid +1
Sean473 said:
Thanks for the review/... It seemed to confirm quite a few things about it... BTW, are you in the UK? I'm willing to buy it off you
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you are more than welcome. I am in the UK, and ordered two nexus 5 and willing to sell both unopened
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you are more than welcome. I am in the UK, and ordered two nexus 5 and willing to sell both unopened
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What colour and size? I just need 1 and looking for 32GB one...
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The brightness is so much better on the Nexus 5. 100% in the Z1 = 40% in the Nexus 5. I am not sure if this because of the recent update which brought the brightness down for the Z1. Anyway, this is not big issue for me, I have my Z1 at 25% all of the time. But again this would probably mean better viewing in sunlight for the Nexus.
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Did you untick adapt lighting condition in the settings on the Z1? makes a big difference...
Thanks for review, Xperia z1 is a really good device
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pham077 said:
Did you untick adapt lighting condition in the settings on the Z1? makes a big difference...
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Thanks for the tip. I always use auto brightness (forgot to turn it off). Now the brightness is almost equal and will the update the original topic
Sean473 said:
What colour and size? I just need 1 and looking for 32GB one...
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I have 16 and 32gb black ones
ahomad said:
Thanks for the tip. I always use auto brightness (forgot to turn it off). Now the brightness is almost equal and will the update the original topic
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Thanks! Got me worried a little if the difference was that huge lol
Thanks for testing!
Great to see that the Z1 is still the fastest Snapdragon 800 phone around (and yes: I am one of those benchmark lovers ).
The performance difference in Antutu really is impressive though, and that's although the Z1 has a slightly lower maximum clock than the Nexus (2,15 vs 2,3 GHz). It is probably for the same reason as with the LG G2: Thermal management.
Sony allows for the Z1 to run quite hot and the phone is bigger and does better at dissipating the heat, therefore the CPU is not clocked down during benchmarks.
You could try placing both phones in your refrigerator and repeat the Antutu test just for the fun if it, scores should be up by some 100 points
That was the case with the Nexus 4 too, due to thermal management it scored lower than the Z despite having the same hardware.
Thanks for the nice review btw.
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I have putted 64Gb SDcard in my Z1 - now everything is fine , also damn huge Akku! I think Z1 is best choise for snapdragon 800 atm imho
Z1 is with your last update? I ask because the camera has received some improvements.
As for me I didn't even considered getting nexus 5. No sdcard slot is a huge deal-braker for me...
Imagine that you want to watch full hd video on your mobile. Thats 11GB, where am I going to put my music in the end?
Its even worse than no led in XZU.
Another thing is that if it wouldnt come out for my ISP in Poland till 27'th then I just wouldn't be able to get it.
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I purchased the Nexus 5 as well. If it somehow trumps the Z1 then I'll just give this phone to my mom, if not: she'll get the N5 as intended
When it came down to it, it was either the Galaxy Note 3, Z1, or the N5. The GN3 suffered from touchwiz and the N5 is still up for debate since I have yet to really use it (used it for a bit when a Google rep came into my best buy store) but I think the Z1 is definitely the way to go. I just can't imagine myself ever using something that doesn't feel as solid as the Z1 in the future. I'm excited to see what Sony does with Kit Kat (hopefully we get it!) But till then, it's a bit pointless to compare the two phones IMO. One is running superior hardware but inferior software (not that 4.2.2 sucks or anything) while the other is running superior software with average hardware (save for the processor).
Both phones are amazing at the end of the day in their own right. But I'm willing to bet that we'll all see the same things said about them when these two phones are compared: people will rave about kit kat and how cheap the N5 is and will complain about viewing angles and price for the Z1.
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I'm really torn between the N5 and the Z1 at the moment... pretty much narrowed it down to those two, since I don't want any Touchwiz/LG crapware on my phone (2 years with an SGS2 is enough). Number one priority is battery life for me, and I thought the Z1 would be great since it had the large 3000 mAh battery, but from what I read that's not really the case. On the other hand my girlfriend's N4 actually has a very decent battery life, despite her using facebook and stuff extensively, so maybe the N5 is actually in a way equal to the Z1. And then of course I don't know when/if Sony releases updates, and do they bring all the 4.4 software goodness?
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Camera
This is quite hard, I do need some more time to say which is better. But initially, the Nexus has better low light image (the images are softer which has advantage of less noise and disadvantage of less details) but the colors are more accurate in the nexus as well. in good light conditions, the Z1 is better in every way.
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Z1 is F2.0 and N5 is F2.4. That's a half stop difference. So Z1 has a 50% bigger aperture size than the N5.
Thus Z1 will get away with shots with 50% faster shutter speed so action shots as well as better low light pics will go to the Z.
You can zoom to about 1.8x with Z1
N5 only has a 2 axis OIS which isn't all that great. Digital stabilisation can beat a 2 axis OIS.
Check this photo comparison between 5s & N5. (scroll down a bit till you see the starbucks coffee) Now check the lobby shot. At first glance the N5 looks better, but zoom into the garden behind and you can see the 5s doing a better job there.
Al this is not to say you cannot get good shots with the N5 or any other camera for that matter.. You can and its a definite improvement over the N4.
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Thanks for testing!
Great to see that the Z1 is still the fastest Snapdragon 800 phone around (and yes: I am one of those benchmark lovers ).
The performance difference in Antutu really is impressive though, and that's although the Z1 has a slightly lower maximum clock than the Nexus (2,15 vs 2,3 GHz). It is probably for the same reason as with the LG G2: Thermal management.
Sony allows for the Z1 to run quite hot and the phone is bigger and does better at dissipating the heat, therefore the CPU is not clocked down during benchmarks.
You could try placing both phones in your refrigerator and repeat the Antutu test just for the fun if it, scores should be up by some 100 points
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That was the case with the Nexus 4 too, due to thermal management it scored lower than the Z despite having the same hardware.
Thanks for the nice review btw.
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I repeated antutu test on the Nexus 5 today morning while it is cold (left it next to the window where it is so cold here in the UK) and it managed to get higher score ~29500, but still no where near the Z1. I should mention that the nexus 5 got warmer than the Z1 during yesterday and todays tests (although the nexus was colder when I started doing antutu test today as I was using the Z1 to check e-mails and other things before reading you comment and decided to repeat antutu test on both devices).
Hello i am new here.. I had lg g3 and i sold it and bought z2.. I found that g3's camera and battery was much better than z2.. I dunno if i missed something or the g3 much better than z2
In your opinion is the lg g3 better or the z2 is a beetrr smartphone all around?
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Battery on z2 should outperform the G3, try manual settings for camera as in less than optimum conditions auto settings struggle.
I went from g3 to z2 as well and thought the same thing, g3 takes great shots when there's a lot of sunlight and it tends to sharpen the pictures more. The z2 is more subtle in the picture that it takes.
Video on the other hand, comparing videos from both phones, the z2 is better.
Overall performance, z2 is better again. There's strange intermittent lag on the g3, you don't get any lag on the z2. The way I see it, the z2 is basically a Nexus 5 with an awesome camera
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Overall performance, z2 is better again. There's strange intermittent lag on the g3, you don't get any lag on the z2. The way I see it, the z2 is basically a Nexus 5 with an awesome camera
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And an SD slot, & decent battery.
Sorry i have both z2 is all round better device lg has loads of lag
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600.php
Well sad for low light performance
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It's fine in low light. I took this photo with one lamp on at the other end of the room for the watch photo. No lights on for the Pringles (there was a window about 6 ft away), and a 60watt bulb over head on the V20 phone photo.
Thanks for the infohow about the heat? Especially in terms of gaming?
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Since the XZ Sony's haven't been as hot as the z5. The z5 got really hot. So the XZ & the XZs warms up but it is not much hotter than say, the galaxy s7, V20 or M9. Gaming is smoother and looks better on the XZ & the XZs--- it's a litter better than any other device i've played on , that includes, S7, M9, Iphone 6s plus. I thought the s7 would have looked better with it's Amoled display, but it isn't. Colors are great but not as good as the XZ or XZs.
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Thanks for the infohow about the heat? Especially in terms of gaming?
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Thanks for the help. Hows the slow mo is it really good?
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I'ts remarkable . However, it is you should know that it has a shorter zoom and records at 720p. I t also looks better in good lighting.
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Thanks for the help. Hows the slow mo is it really good?
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