KitKat + GEL launcher = slow piece of crap - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm running unrooted, stock KitKat with GEL launcher and it's slow as hell.
Screen transitions, any changes to icons, Google now everything is slow as hell.
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You might want to check other possibilities. I am using GEL launcher without significant slowing, a hitch here or there, but nothing too horrible.
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jodvova said:
I'm running unrooted, stock KitKat with GEL launcher and it's slow as hell.
Screen transitions, any changes to icons, Google now everything is slow as hell.
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Then don't use gel launcher. Use the stock one or nova beta which is themed like gel. There already threads about this. No reason to make a new one just to say it sucks. Anyways it's not meant for the nexus 10 so unless someone or Google optimizes it for our tablet it won't work well because of all the transparency
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mevensen said:
You might want to check other possibilities. I am using GEL launcher without significant slowing, a hitch here or there, but nothing too horrible.
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Well, you have nexus 5, you should know how fast it is running. Nexus 10 is not even close to that. It actually reminds me Samsung device bloated with touchwiz.
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Think about it this way. The device has to draw the entire screen 2 times one of those being a transparent layer while animating it... that will task any device... wouldn't be surprised to see the new N10 come out with 1080p just for this issue.. I don't think any SOC that can handle this resolution with transparency
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Use Nova Launcher beta with transculent. Working great and smooooth

I take my words back. After "S" update the tablet seems to back being responsive again, even with GEL launcher.
I've recently tried Note 10.1 2014 and even though it runs on latest hardware its dead slow 'cause of touchwiz overkill.
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Amiga4ever123 said:
Use Nova Launcher beta with transculent. Working great and smooooth
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Which zip did you flash to get translucent enabled?

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What launchers?

Using the default at the mo.
Any one using anything else?
Apex? etc?
Curious if the default has all the pinch-zoom capabilities of Xscope. I can zoom any mobile page with Xscope, the only browser I found that does that on all sites (like FB).
drsuave said:
Using the default at the mo.
Any one using anything else?
Apex? etc?
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tcat007 said:
Curious if the default has all the pinch-zoom capabilities of Xscope. I can zoom any mobile page with Xscope, the only browser I found that does that on all sites (like FB).
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He meant launcher, not browser lol.
OP, I started apex, but realized what a pita it would be to set up, and said "I'm out" and uninstalled. It works though.
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I stuck with the default one since "My Library" doesn't show your library in Apex.
upstandingcitizen said:
He meant launcher, not browser lol.
OP, I started apex, but realized what a pita it would be to set up, and said "I'm out" and uninstalled. It works though.
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I don't think it does right now. I tried configuring it and, unless I'm missing something, it's stuck in tablet mode. It won't let me get rid of the Tablet app launcher in the top right and the search bar in the top left. Also, all of the icons don't scale right, so they're tiny compared to the stock launcher.
I'm going to roll with stock until Apex updates for JB.
I use Apex. Its really fast and fluid on jellybean!
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I tried apex I dont like the way it works on my tabs screen. It leaves a gap at the top.
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I use Nova. It's pretty great.
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I use Nova. It's pretty great.
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i so wanna swat that bug on your post.. Make it stop...
please .
'My Library' does work in Nova. I'm using Apex at the moment.
Kidromulous said:
I tried apex I dont like the way it works on my tabs screen. It leaves a gap at the top.
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The vertical and horizontal margin options will fix this. Just change it to small or none.
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Nova Prime
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...uncher] Showcase your launcher's performance!
MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz
GoLauncher EX. I know there are newer ones, but it works, runs great, and is consistent with what's on my SGS2. Just never saw a reason to change.
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+1 for go launcher. Smoothest and most functional on jelly bean yet. Apex lags with a few icons on screen and nova has a few bugs that need to be ironed out for jelly bean. Go launcher never lags at all 6x10 grid. Plus themes work awesome And effects. Plus it has full features and its free.
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I've tried both nova and apex. Apex has some rescaling issues when redrawing icons in tablet mode. Nova is ok but it seems as if many of its features are reserved for the pay version.
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Which launcher??

Hi guys,
Just wondering what launcher you guys are using?? I used to use Apex on my One X which was awesome but it seems pretty laggy on the note 2 as does Nova and Holo.
Cheers,
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Go ex
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Stock, what's wrong with the stock launcher?? It seems pretty fast and smooth.
zero.fx said:
Stock, what's wrong with the stock launcher?? It seems pretty fast and smooth.
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No offense, but the stock launcher sucks....I hate being stuck with big icons and low grid arrangement
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Ive tried them all. And always come back to go launcher ex.
Reasons to switch from stock. Landscape homescreen view and customise grid layouts and my main two. Add a clock/weather widget from beautiful widgets and happy days.
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Go Launcher Ex here too... Though it seems a little less smooth as the stock launcher, I prefer a custom grid (I use 5x6) and icon resizing over a 4x4 grid with too much empty useless space. Why else would you have a 5,5" screen.
A few good improvements on TouchWiz on the Note2 though, are the ability to sort the application list in the app drawer, and a 5 icon dock when running stock.
Yeah, stock launcher sucks donkeys balls for the reason already mentioned- crappy grid arrangement that you can't change. Have tried Ex, it's pretty cool, very smooth. I do prefer Apex but I'd rather have a launcher nice and smooth than laggy.
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I'm using Nova. On the Note 2, it's the smoothest launcher I've ever used.
For those who doesn't know, the transparency bug in nova is already fixed
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I use tsf shell...amazingly innovative and zero lag
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Nova launcher pro and 6x5 grid, but i miss the context screen on touchwith. When i have some time spare, i test again Go launcher, on my previous phone (Arc S), it unusable, cause it's use too much memory.
I have a page here with a few Android launchers on it, if you fancy trying a few others.
Nova Launcher Premium with Circles theme > than all
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zabaknilesh said:
I use tsf shell...amazingly innovative and zero lag
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Tsf is actually pretty cool. Takes some time to get used to..but what awesome look and feel. And works amazing on this beast.
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I hated TW on my Galaxy S and Note 1, so I used Go Launcher, Launcher Pro and ADW EX. But on the Note 2, TW seems the smoothest for me switching between screens and opening apps and the app drawer.
I'm using the TW mod that gives me a 5x4 grid plus the dock on the home screen and a 6x5 grid in the app draw.
There's a 6x5 grid mod for the homescreen too.
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americasteam said:
I'm using Nova. On the Note 2, it's the smoothest launcher I've ever used.
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Yes, the Nova launcher are the best:good:
Go Launcher Ex All The Way!
Here's Why:
I've also found it to be very smooth and the least glitchy on Jelly Bean.
James Harrison said:
Here's Why:
I've also found it to be very smooth and the least glitchy on Jelly Bean.
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ahh my fellow Perth buddy
your reviews are awesome..
it's just me or go launcher EX isn't as smooth as TW?
Feeling_Free said:
it's just me or go launcher EX isn't as smooth as TW?
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I just grabbed my note II and compared them, honestly it's really hard to tell but you may be right. TW is the tiniest bit smoother, but it's negligible

How much would you miss tablet UI?

Apparently it's going. I will really miss it. I don't think there is any need for two thick black bars on a 7 inch device. I like having the extra space and I like the aesthetics of the tablet UI, especially with a reduced nav bar. I don't know why they are removing tablet UI and if the devs can do anything about it. I hope they can! Will you miss it too or is it just me?
Edit: Turns out it's just a rumour, phew!
Most will miss the 10" tablet UI but honestly, I don't expect that I will. The centered buttons are not that big a deal and the "Odd" way the Nexus 7's notification system lurks around, unobtrusive enough that I probably won't care.
I will be more interested in things like Miracast support and web browsing performance than I will be in the UI changes.
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StrangerWeather said:
Apparently it's going. I will really miss it. I don't think there is any need for two thick black bars on a 7 inch device. I like having the extra space and I like the aesthetics of the tablet UI, especially with a reduced nav bar. I don't know why they are removing tablet UI and if the devs can do anything about it. I hope they can! Will you miss it too or is it just me?
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There are a bunch of ROMs with tablet UI actually. I'm using smooth ROM with it and its irreplaceable
I know, I'm on PA, but once the update kicks in the ROMs won't have tablet UI. Correct me if I'm wrong!
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I will miss it alot. I do not see why they would get rid of something like that.
Btw where did you see it was removed and are we talking about the 4.2 update?
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I thought I would hate it when I first saw it
But honestly, I like it. I was forced to use it for the first month before I rooted my n7, and I got used to it. Then I installed a tabui ROM and imo it doesn't work properly on a 7 inch screen. I know a lot will disagree but I am just sayin
I use the normal phone ui now, its just more consistent and easier to use for me. If I want more screen space, I will remove the bars with 'expand desktop' on the ROMs I use
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Devs will port it over it's not going anywhere
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DirtyShroomz said:
Devs will port it over it's not going anywhere
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things i hate about standard nexus 7 UI
no quick access to brightness. in tablet UI i can quickly tap the time in lower left hand corner and adjust brightness on the fly.. cant do that with nexus 7 UI
i hate how i dont get Tablet APPs and instead get the phone app for youtube gmail etc..
those are the only things that make me to to tablet ui..
if i could have quick access to Brightness AND native tablet youtube and gmail apps in the standard nexus 7 UI then id be fine.
i really do love the expanded youtube app in tablet UI 4 nice rows in portrait mode compared to phone youtube app. yuck.
Yea the tablet mode is supreme. If it doesn't "work" right then it isn't implemented right. EOS has it so stupidly simple that it is a godsend. You can enable/disable it on the fly and it doesn't screw with your other apps. Just combines the bars into 1.
The notification pulldown menu on the stock UI is horrible. Needs fullscreen or something. Looks tacked on like an afterthought.
I will be disappointed once 4.2 hits and it goes away. Remember tablet UI has to be present to unlock it. Google may remove it completely to streamline their OSs.
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player911 said:
Yea the tablet mode is supreme. If it doesn't "work" right then it isn't implemented right. EOS has it so stupidly simple that it is a godsend. You can enable/disable it on the fly and it doesn't screw with your other apps. Just combines the bars into 1.
The notification pulldown menu on the stock UI is horrible. Needs fullscreen or something. Looks tacked on like an afterthought.
I will be disappointed once 4.2 hits and it goes away. Remember tablet UI has to be present to unlock it. Google may remove it completely to streamline their OSs.
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Someone somewhere will find a way...
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xopher.hunter said:
I will miss it alot. I do not see why they would get rid of something like that.
Btw where did you see it was removed and are we talking about the 4.2 update?
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Yes, apparently the update doesn't allow for tablet UI. I read about it over on the PA thread.
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StrangerWeather said:
Yes, apparently the update doesn't allow for tablet UI. I read about it over on the PA thread.
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Link?
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It's all over the place in the ROMs threads but there is a discussion kinda starting here in the PA thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33692765 . Reading this again there seems to be some uncertainty about it. So that's something I guess...
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No one knows what Google have done with the code and the xml layouts until they release 4.2 sources. Until then your guess is as good as mine.
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Full 4.4 KitKat experience

Hi there,
I recently purchased my nexus 7. I used to have an XDA account from years ago.
Basically, tonight I installed the AOSP ROM released for the nexus 7 on rootzwiki forums and I found that it had the normal launcher so it seemed like a jelly bean ROM with a white theme to it. Since then I discovered I was able to download and install Google Home and that enabled me to use the new UI with the transparent status bar and nav bar. So far I like it a lot. Its quite stable with a few bugs and it will get better.
And a video on YouTube of the ROM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8cRaxw7e1E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Partially working Gapps http://d-h.st/EIM
I would add screenshots but the xda app doesn't let me
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The keyboard comes out when going to home
The keyboard comes out when going to home. Do you know how to disable it? As it's annoying.
carbon dioxide said:
The keyboard comes out when going to home. Do you know how to disable it? As it's annoying.
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Nope, haven't been able to find out how to either. And for me landscape mode messes up icon labels for me
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carbon dioxide said:
The keyboard comes out when going to home. Do you know how to disable it? As it's annoying.
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I believe it's the launcher. As you can see, the Search Bar is out of place too, I have the Google Experience launcher on my n4, and it doesn't look like that. I believe this launcher wasn't N7.2 ready.
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I believe it's the launcher. As you can see, the Search Bar is out of place too, I have the Google Experience launcher on my n4, and it doesn't look like that. I believe this launcher wasn't N7.2 ready.
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Nope its not, it is the one from the nexus 5 system dump.
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That's why I'm waiting for the official release for Nexus 7 :victory:
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That's why I'm waiting for the official release for Nexus 7 :victory:
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That's exactly what I am waiting for as well. As much as I want to flash a 4.4 ROM, I'm just gonna patiently wait for an official release....can't wait!!!
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[HELP ME][GNL]Google Now Launcher 1.0.16.1154249 fps drops/lags on Nexus 4!!! 4.4.2

Recently i updated gnl to this new version, and i can see fps drops/lag only during transition from app drawer to home screen..i have been using gel/gnl since it was released for nexus 4...i already did a cache partition wipe... There is no problem with my device or os, its very smooth n fast.. It only lags when i move from app drawer to home.. I tried reinstalling wiping cache,etc. Plz help,
os - stock 4.4.2
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Also its unrooted
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UPDATE- UPDATED OS TO 4.4.3. BUT STILL LAGS..PLZ HELP...
STORY FROM START-Recently i updated gnl to this new version, and i can see fps drops/lag only during transition from app drawer to home screen..i have been using gel/gnl since it was released for nexus 4...i already did a cache partition wipe... There is no problem with my device or os, its very smooth n fast.. It only lags when i move from app drawer to home.. I tried reinstalling wiping cache,etc. Plz help,
os - stock 4.4.3
I am pretty sure theres no problem with os..cz it was lagging even on 4.4.2 n 4.4
According to me only the first version of GNL, ie, GEL was smooth rest all updates lag.
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Why don't you try Nova launcher or some other launcher. You might get a better experience.
Try reducing animations speed to .5x
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sachin.parmar100 said:
Try reducing animations speed to .5x
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why use something ugly as GEL....
Mashed_Potatoes said:
why use something ugly as GEL....
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What is the free space available on your phone? are you getting same issue with other launchers as well?
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nitin.chobhe said:
What is the free space available on your phone? are you getting same issue with other launchers as well?
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i dont use GEL
while it was installed there was no lag. i had app drawer close animation lag on old version but not anymore
i use Nova now, no lag
Found The Fix!!!
Guys i found the problem:laugh:.. the problem is hotword detection... Disable it and my god its like nexus 5... works beautifully.. btw guys this is also called google now launcher voice lag.. i dont know how to fix it but yeah.. Now its smooth animations... pls try this and then post results..

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