Hi, I am new here. I hope I don't post something too obvious but I don't think it is since there are many specifics. I also hope this is in the right section of the forum, feel free to move it elsewhere if it is not. There is so much information going on that I'm a bit lost.
So I bought this samsung galaxy note 4 on kijiji a couple months ago. I noticed strange memory anomalies when I started to really understand the phone. I had to take it to a repair center because I thought I didn't have access to the full memory. The guy said this phone was either not from here (I'm from canada/quebec and I bought it in montreal) or it was a clone. It is so identical to a real one I would not have doubted it because it was the first time I had one in my hands. Yesterday I googled a bit on differences between real and fakes and I think it is a fake according to this youtube video from techmagnet: Fake vs Real Samsung Galaxy Note 4 - New Version - Best chinese 1:1 Replica for 150$ ? [HD]
Sorry I can't post the link since I'm new. Just copy paste the tilte.
It is pretty much identical to his fake so I guess it's the same. They have almost same informations. So first thing is it had only 16gb when I bought it instead of the 32 announced and is stuck on kitkat 4.4.4 while there is supposed to be a lollipop update I believe, maybe even marshmallow I'm not sure. So now that I know that, it doesn't bother me too much that it is fake because it runs very smoothly and properly. Now what I am wondering is how can I indentify what's really under this cover and can I update it. According to the video, the guy says there should be no problem. But I have never updated a galaxy note 4, my last one was a optimus black so nothing to compare. I have also never flashed or used custom rom or rooted a phone but I heard they can be faster, more stable (not that the one I have is not, it is perfectly stable) and with more options. I don't know if someone can confirm the real benefits of upgrading my phone.
Now if it is possible to do so I would gladly share the necessary information to help find the right firmware. So what information do I need, how do I find it and which rom should I run on this phone. There seems to be a lot of them and I don't know any of them actually. I have already the apps used in the video(cpuz, geekbench 3, and android assistant if this is what I need but they give different informations on some of the phone infos.. From what I learned from the repair store, the canadian firmware should be SM-N910c if I remember correctly but I'm not sure. But this phone says N910F which is why I thought it was simply a european model at first that was maybe stolen and sold back here because the IMEI was good. The guy at the repair store told me he was reluctant to change the firmware himself because he feared he might break the device with the wrong stock firmware, something I think should not happen with a custom one? Anyway he just reset my phone and I ended up losing memory because now it shows 4gb instead of 16 that should have been 32 in the first place, but I assume since it is a clone it must simply have 16.
Last thing I want to know is the guy who sold me the phone told me he had unlocked it for it to work on every network companies. I'm currently with koodo/telus. Can updating my firmware block it again, like erase the unblocking? Or is it safe? I assume it is possible that custom roms just unlock the phone anyway but I am a noob at this.
From what I can tell you at first those are the information I think might be usefull but I don't know if I need more. I'll just take the lead and share what I think might be useful:
Cpu z says I have qualcomm Snapdragon 800 3.00 ghz but Geekbench says I'm not actually going that fast.
It says 4 cores, should be 8 if it was a real note 4 I think
krait 400 architecture
revision r0p3
Gpu: Adreno (TM)330
(SM-N910F)
Board: APQ8084
Hardware: MT6582
Kernel Architecture: armv7l
Kernel version: 3.4.67 (N9100ZCU1ANIF)
System says 3000 of RAM but geekbench says I'm not actually reaching that.
And system, android assistant and Cpu z doesn't seem to agree on the amount of internal memory I have. Cpuz does say I should be having 16gb so I think a firmware update should give me back those extra gb right?
Sorry there are lots of questions but I need proper guidance to get me in the right direction. I hope this is enough information. Once I get to know which rom to use and the proper steps of installation I should be able to find my way.
matrix_drumr said:
Hi, I am new here. I hope I don't post something too obvious but I don't think it is since there are many specifics. I also hope this is in the right section of the forum, feel free to move it elsewhere if it is not. There is so much information going on that I'm a bit lost.
So I bought this samsung galaxy note 4 on kijiji a couple months ago. I noticed strange memory anomalies when I started to really understand the phone. I had to take it to a repair center because I thought I didn't have access to the full memory. The guy said this phone was either not from here (I'm from canada/quebec and I bought it in montreal) or it was a clone. It is so identical to a real one I would not have doubted it because it was the first time I had one in my hands. Yesterday I googled a bit on differences between real and fakes and I think it is a fake according to this youtube video from techmagnet: Fake vs Real Samsung Galaxy Note 4 - New Version - Best chinese 1:1 Replica for 150$ ? [HD]
Sorry I can't post the link since I'm new. Just copy paste the tilte.
It is pretty much identical to his fake so I guess it's the same. They have almost same informations. So first thing is it had only 16gb when I bought it instead of the 32 announced and is stuck on kitkat 4.4.4 while there is supposed to be a lollipop update I believe, maybe even marshmallow I'm not sure. So now that I know that, it doesn't bother me too much that it is fake because it runs very smoothly and properly. Now what I am wondering is how can I indentify what's really under this cover and can I update it. According to the video, the guy says there should be no problem. But I have never updated a galaxy note 4, my last one was a optimus black so nothing to compare. I have also never flashed or used custom rom or rooted a phone but I heard they can be faster, more stable (not that the one I have is not, it is perfectly stable) and with more options. I don't know if someone can confirm the real benefits of upgrading my phone.
Now if it is possible to do so I would gladly share the necessary information to help find the right firmware. So what information do I need, how do I find it and which rom should I run on this phone. There seems to be a lot of them and I don't know any of them actually. I have already the apps used in the video(cpuz, geekbench 3, and android assistant if this is what I need but they give different informations on some of the phone infos.. From what I learned from the repair store, the canadian firmware should be SM-N910c if I remember correctly but I'm not sure. But this phone says N910F which is why I thought it was simply a european model at first that was maybe stolen and sold back here because the IMEI was good. The guy at the repair store told me he was reluctant to change the firmware himself because he feared he might break the device with the wrong stock firmware, something I think should not happen with a custom one? Anyway he just reset my phone and I ended up losing memory because now it shows 4gb instead of 16 that should have been 32 in the first place, but I assume since it is a clone it must simply have 16.
Last thing I want to know is the guy who sold me the phone told me he had unlocked it for it to work on every network companies. I'm currently with koodo/telus. Can updating my firmware block it again, like erase the unblocking? Or is it safe? I assume it is possible that custom roms just unlock the phone anyway but I am a noob at this.
From what I can tell you at first those are the information I think might be usefull but I don't know if I need more. I'll just take the lead and share what I think might be useful:
Cpu z says I have qualcomm Snapdragon 800 3.00 ghz but Geekbench says I'm not actually going that fast.
It says 4 cores, should be 8 if it was a real note 4 I think
krait 400 architecture
revision r0p3
Gpu: Adreno (TM)330
(SM-N910F)
Board: APQ8084
Hardware: MT6582
Kernel Architecture: armv7l
Kernel version: 3.4.67 (N9100ZCU1ANIF)
System says 3000 of RAM but geekbench says I'm not actually reaching that.
And system, android assistant and Cpu z doesn't seem to agree on the amount of internal memory I have. Cpuz does say I should be having 16gb so I think a firmware update should give me back those extra gb right?
Sorry there are lots of questions but I need proper guidance to get me in the right direction. I hope this is enough information. Once I get to know which rom to use and the proper steps of installation I should be able to find my way.
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I had S4 clone,and it just not good
Never buy clones,but never.You have 4GB memory,not 16GB.
For upgrading ROM,search on google MTK ROMS- you have MT6582,first u need proper recovery,than MTK tools(root and backup old system) and finily ROM(You need to copy aome files from ur currnet ROM in new one-files like drivers for wifi,camera,bt etc)
It complicated,YOU CAN BRICK DEVICE-and no,memory stay 4GB it real one
Ps Just check again if it for sure MT 6582(download app Genuine Galaxy - Phone Info)
And here is ROMS for you(each off this must be ported for your device-have instuction on site): http://www.mtkroms.com/p/custom-roms-for-mtk6582.html?m=1
Jovan1997 said:
I had S4 clone,and it just not good
Never buy clones,but never.You have 4GB memory,not 16GB.
For upgrading ROM,search on google MTK ROMS- you have MT6582,first u need proper recovery,than MTK tools(root and backup old system) and finily ROM(You need to copy aome files from ur currnet ROM in new one-files like drivers for wifi,camera,bt etc)
It complicated,YOU CAN BRICK DEVICE-and no,memory stay 4GB it real one
Ps Just check again if it for sure MT 6582(download app Genuine Galaxy - Phone Info)
And here is ROMS for you(each off this must be ported for your device-have instuction on site): xxxxxxxxxx
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I think I have one of the best clones there is so it's not that bad. I have a 64gb SD card so I don't complain about internal memory.
So does upgrading rom erase the network unlocking?
And how do I choose between all those roms? There are so many! I guess a marshamallow one would be nice but is it stable and fast with this device?
Should I go with a rom that's like the one I already have? I don't know which one it is. Is there a way to find out?
Edit: Genuine galaxy says my IMEI is one of a Mobi SM55.
It says the cpu hardware is Qualcomm MSM 8974.
It also says I should have 16GB rom. I'm confused now
And CPU model says: ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l)
Install the app like the above user mentioned, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo&hl=en
ithehappy said:
Install the app like the above user mentioned,
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I did it's in my reply
matrix_drumr said:
I think I have one of the best clones there is so it's not that bad. I have a 64gb SD card so I don't complain about internal memory.
So does upgrading rom erase the network unlocking?
And how do I choose between all those roms? There are so many! I guess a marshamallow one would be nice but is it stable and fast with this device?
Should I go with a rom that's like the one I already have? I don't know which one it is. Is there a way to find out?
Edit: Genuine galaxy says my IMEI is one of a Mobi SM55.
It says the cpu hardware is Qualcomm MSM 8974.
It also says I should have 16GB rom. I'm confused now
And CPU model says: ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l)
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May be u have good clon,but nvm it just not easy FLASH and UPGRADE like original one..If u brick device and not have backup,you cant do nothing
Seems there no MM(marshamallow) for mt 6582(last is 5.1.1 i think,or 5.0.1).Clone is never locked network,so you dont need to worry about that.But it just not easy to find& flash recovery and ROM :/ It will work so much faster,but i dont recommend if u dont know what doing...You will probalby lost AirComand(but have solution for that)
And yea,CPU-Z need to show correct info about CPU and chip ,or just try to find some 3hrd app on play store to be sure it is MT 6582(hardwer info,CPU / RAM / DEVICE Identifier,samsung phone info etc)
If you decide to flash,just root and use MTK Tools for backup(it very important)
Jovan1997 said:
May be u have good clon,but nvm it just not easy FLASH and UPGRADE like original one..If u brick device and not have backup,you cant do nothing
Seems there no MM(marshamallow) for mt 6582(last is 5.1.1 i think,or 5.0.1).Clone is never locked network,so you dont need to worry about that.But it just not easy to find& flash recovery and ROM :/ It will work so much faster,but i dont recommend if u dont know what doing...You will probalby lost AirComand(but have solution for that)
And yea,CPU-Z need to show correct info about CPU and chip ,or just try to find some 3hrd app on play store to be sure it is MT 6582(hardwer info,CPU / RAM / DEVICE Identifier,samsung phone info etc)
If you decide to flash,just root and use MTK Tools for backup(it very important)
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So CPU-Z says hardware is MT6582 and board is APQ 8084 but it also says Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 on the first Soc tab
Hardware info says the chipset is Qualcomm MSM 8974 and cpu hardware is APQ 8084
Genuine galaxy phone info says CPU hardware is Qualcomm MSM 8974 but no chipset information.
Which one is the right info haha!
I know what I'm doing as far as I won't do anything blindfolded. I don't know a lot about phones, I have more knowledge of computers but I figure there's a start for everything. Somehow this phone may be a blessing in that it'll make me learn about all this stuff. I'll just make sure to know which one is my actual hardware and which rom to take. I'm in no hurry, don't worry. I'll take the time to learn about every step. I know the risks.
I was also wondering which step can actually brick the phone? Is it the rooting access or the flashing of a new rom?
And should I bother with kernel versions?
matrix_drumr said:
So CPU-Z says hardware is MT6582 and board is APQ 8084 but it also says Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 on the first Soc tab
Hardware info says the chipset is Qualcomm MSM 8974 and cpu hardware is APQ 8084
Genuine galaxy phone info says CPU hardware is Qualcomm MSM 8974 but no chipset information.
Which one is the right info haha!
I know what I'm doing as far as I won't do anything blindfolded. I don't know a lot about phones, I have more knowledge of computers but I figure there's a start for everything. Somehow this phone may be a blessing in that it'll make me learn about all this stuff. I'll just make sure to know which one is my actual hardware and which rom to take. I'm in no hurry, don't worry. I'll take the time to learn about every step. I know the risks.
I was also wondering which step can actually brick the phone? Is it the rooting access or the flashing of a new rom?
And should I bother with kernel versions?
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Hmmm :/ try to delete and download again CPU Z,but i think it MT6582(or download antutu bench just for info)
No,with rooting process all is safe(not 100% safe but ),but flesing recovery is complicated,must 'port' recovery by ur self..When u have fleshed good recovery,u have done 80%job
Whatever,I warn you but if u really want,you can send me PM with ur nimber phone and I will contact on viber or wp...I can help you trough TeamViewr
*bad eng sorry
This thread is dedicated to those users with a Sprint compatible (Sprint, Boost, Virgin Mobile USA, TextNow) Moto G3 (xt1548) who wish to convert their device into a Virgin Mobile Data Done Right variant by means of a full partition flash. In other words, a complete partition dump from a Data Done Right Moto G3 can be flashed to a Sprint, Boost, TextNow, or Virgin Mobile USA variant for full conversion to a Data Done Right variant. This conversion, due to MEID and other device IDs, is limited in terms of its ability to be activated on the Virgin Mobile DDR network. In other words, a converted device will not register in Virgin Mobile's system as a DDR device. However, your converted device can nevertheless connect to the DDR network with a properly provisioned and paired UICC. (Note: this method does not alter, modify, edit, change or otherwise clone any device IDs such as MEID, IMEI, MAC Address, etc, and is otherwise fully compliant with XDA rules and state & federal law). This thread is also dedicated to general topics regarding the xt1548 Moto G3 Virgin Mobile Data Done Right variant, which is a separate variant from the Moto G3 Virgin Mobile USA device.
Also, as this thread grows, so will the abundance of information and available firmware files needed for this task. This thread is not geared toward instruction or guidance on the notorious Data Done Right loophole. Upon converting your device to a DDR variant, connecting to the DDR network, UICC provisioning, etc., is entirely up to the user. I will not provide information on subjects regarding the DDR loophole. However sparse, there are a few threads here on XDA which provide information on that particular subject.
Sent from my MotoG3 using XDA Forums
First, it is noteworthy in opening this thread to point out that the APN Settings for Internet and MMS for the Data Done Right network are not the same settings as the Virgin Mobile USA variant. Your Data Done Right (hereinafter "DDR") APN Settings for LTE/4G Data and MMS should be set as such:
Virgin Mobile LTE
APN: n.ij.ispsn
Username: Sprint
Password: *
MMSC: http://mms.sprintpcs.com
MMS Proxy: 68.28.31.7
MMS Port: 80
APN Type: mms,default,fota,supl,hipri,dun
APN Protocol: IPv4
APN Roaming Protocol: IPv4
Bearer: LTE
(Any fields not noted should be left blank or default).
A common misconception of Virgin Mobile USA and Virgin Mobile DDR is that the two are the same network and utilize the same APN & Network Settings. In fact, Virgin Mobile DDR is a completely separate network from Virgin Mobile USA and the two are not compatible or transferrable from one to the other. Although both are MVNO subsidiaries of Sprint, they are two separate and distinct entities in regards of networks. So, a Virgin Mobile USA account on a Moto G3 can not be transferred to to a Virgin Mobile DDR account and vice versa. Although the DDR line of devices were discontinued from retail sales from Walmart around a year or so ago, the network itself is still in full operation and its plans are still fully available. As such, Virgin Mobile retailed two variants of its Moto G3 xt1548: the Virgin Mobile USA variant and the Virgin Mobile DDR variant. Owners of the DDR variant can reach Customer Service at 1-844-326-1261.
MotoJunkie01 said:
APN Type: mms,default,fota,supl,hipri,fun
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APN Type 'fun' ?!?! lol... I think you mean 'dun', I have never heard of a APN type of fun, although it was enough to give me a chuckle reading it.
https://tamingthedroid.com/apn-type
acejavelin said:
APN Type 'fun' ?!?! lol... I think you mean 'dun', I have never heard of a APN type of fun, although it was enough to give me a chuckle reading it.
https://tamingthedroid.com/apn-type
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I'm sure it's a Typo.
By the way, is the topic interesting enough to you, where you'd like to help out and be a contributing force to it.
I've read a few of your undertakings and your GOOD :good:
would be a pleasure to see your expertize and talent here in helping out with the thread.
Me (I'm) a nobody here or anywhere, but I've PM'ed MotoJunkie01 much, and he's knowledgeable and helpful - just as you are, as I've read your Threads and helpful posts. So how about it, would that sound like something you'd be interested to do in helping develop this thread. I know MotoJunkie01 was looking for help to co-chair this topic along I think you're just that person he's looking for.
Thanks for considering it. . .
ResistanceIsFutile said:
I'm sure it's a Typo.
By the way, is the topic interesting enough to you, where you'd like to help out and be a contributing force to it.
I've read a few of your undertakings and your GOOD :good:
would be a pleasure to see your expertize and talent here in helping out with the thread.
Me (I'm) a nobody here or anywhere, but I've PM'ed MotoJunkie01 much, and he's knowledgeable and helpful - just as you are, as I've read your Threads and helpful posts. So how about it, would that sound like something you'd be interested to help develop this thread. I know MotoJunkie01 was looking for help to co-chair this topic along
Thanks for considering it. . .
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Projects like this interest me... swapping ROMs, tweaking settings, etc... So that lead me to read the thread, and I would help where I could. My issues is I don't have a CDMA Moto G, in fact I don't even have Sprint service in my area without traveling 200 or so miles, so I don't know how much help I would be.
Under the hood princples
acejavelin said:
Projects like this interest me... swapping ROMs, tweaking settings, etc... So that lead me to read the thread, and I would help where I could. My issues is I don't have a CDMA Moto G, in fact I don't even have Sprint service in my area without traveling 200 or so miles, so I don't know how much help I would be.
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I'm sure this is better discussed with @MotoJunkie01 through PM's, though you both share the love for Moto's, and any knowledge brought to light will help that part of Moto users on the CDMA side. Besides anything you guy's could learn/exchange between yourselves would help all Moto users - Yes?
acejavelin said:
Projects like this interest me / I would help where I could / I don't have a CDMA Moto G, so I don't know how much help I would be.
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{Please forgive me for taking your words out of context}
In the areas of tweaks and of their under the hood principles related to all Moto's, in a threads structure and content to it's beneficial coverage for the reader, answering of questions where your knowledge is greater, I see many areas you could be very helpful. Then think about some friends or far off relatives that may have need to the knowledge that this thread will cover. In that of Data Done Right.
acejavelin said:
APN Type 'fun' ?!?! lol... I think you mean 'dun', I have never heard of a APN type of fun, although it was enough to give me a chuckle reading it.
https://tamingthedroid.com/apn-type
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Good catch on my "fun" entry. Great eye for detail
acejavelin said:
APN Type 'fun' ?!?! lol... I think you mean 'dun', I have never heard of a APN type of fun, although it was enough to give me a chuckle reading it.
https://tamingthedroid.com/apn-type
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Your contributions to this thread would be invaluable, and enlightening to many. Would love it if you were on board. Thanks for your consideration regardless of your decision.
Sent from my MotoG3 using XDA Forums
Moto G3 Virgin Mobile DDR Modem [Radio) Firmware Files
As always ....you flash these files at your own risk. ALWAYS make a full Nandroid backup before proceeding with firmware flashing or major configuration changes.
The following link is for the Modem [Radio] Firmware which comes stock on the Virgin Mobile DDR variant of the Moto G3 (xt1548). More specifically, this modem firmware is from the final Stock Android 5.1.1 Lollipop Build - the build next preceding the Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow OTA. (Android 5.1.1 LPI23.72-32-S.28_cid9) Included in this link are three raw partition .img files: /modem & /fsg (classified as modem [radio] firmware) and /persist, which encompasses vital network and telephony configurations specific to the Virgin Mobile DDR network, including unrestricted enabling of Mobile Hotspot, USB Tethering and Bluetooth Sharing of your high speed 4G/LTE Data. There are also telephony configurations in /persist which are unique to DDR. Again, it should be noted that these particular firmware partitions and network configurations are specific to the DDR variant, and are not the same as those partitions and configurations on the Virgin Mobile USA variant.
DOWNLOAD LINK:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4PvIFOs0G3jVmF1dXloWFpLZzA
These partitions may be flashed via a number of different methods. Flashfire by @Chainfire, Partition Backup & Restore by @wanam, and Rashr are all capable of flashing these partitions. Preferably, and arguably the best method, is to install Minimal ADB & Fastboot on your PC (and also the most current version of Motorola Device Manager, to ensure the correct and most current USB drivers for your Moto G3 are installed on your laptop or PC). Put your device into AP Fastboot Mode by powering off your device, and then holding the Power button and Volume Down button of your device simultaneously until the fastboot menu appears. Connect your Moto G3 to your PC or laptop with an OEM or equivalent in quality micro USB to USB charge/sync cable. Place the three .img files you downloaded in your adb/fastboot directory and open a command window in that directory. Execute these commands:
First, type fastboot devices. Your device Serial Number will appear in the command window if you are properly connected with the requisite USB drivers installed. If you do not see the Serial Number or if you see a message "Waiting for Any Device" in the command window, try switching USB Ports, reinstall the Motorola Device Manager, and/or try a different sync cable. Execute these commands to install the DDR Modem Firmware on your device:
fastboot oem fb_mode_set
fastboot flash modem modem.img
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
fastboot flash fsg fsg.img
fastboot oem config fsg-id virgin
fastboot oem config carrier virgin
fastboot flash persist persist.img
fastboot oem fb_mode_clear
Your Moto G3 will now be running the DDR modem firmware and is configured to the carrier specific parameters of the DDR network. Again, these firmware dumps are from Stock Android 5.1.1 (LPI23.72-32-S.28_cid9). This firmware can be used while running any stock or custom ROM and, to the best of my knowledge and experience, on any version of Android. However, if any members want the more recent Android 6.0.1 modem firmware, just request it and I'll post a link.
This firmware can be used while running any stock or custom ROM and, to the best of my knowledge and experience, on any version of Android.
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While still keeping in mind that of a Sprint compatible (Sprint, Boost, Virgin Mobile USA, TextNow)-Variants- of the Moto G3 (xt1548) is needed here.
ResistanceIsFutile said:
While still keeping in mind that of a Sprint compatible (Sprint, Boost, Virgin Mobile USA, TextNow)-Variants- of the Moto G3 (xt1548) is needed here.
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Yes. This thread is focused on the Sprint compatible variant of the Moto G3, the xt1548 Variant -- Virgin Mobile USA, Virgin Mobile Data Done Right, Boost Mobile, Sprint, TextNow, FreedomPop, etc. For members that need it, I will be posting a download link in the next day or so of the stock Android 5.1.1 ROM shipped on the DDR variant.
ResistanceIsFutile said:
While still keeping in mind that of a Sprint compatible (Sprint, Boost, Virgin Mobile USA, TextNow)-Variants- of the Moto G3 (xt1548) is needed here.
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By the way, glad you finally drummed in with some input. Haha. Good to hear from you as always.
MotoJunkie01 said:
Yes. This thread is focused on the Sprint compatible variant of the Moto G3, the xt1548 Variant -- Virgin Mobile USA, Virgin Mobile Data Done Right, Boost Mobile, Sprint, TextNow, FreedomPop, etc.
For members that need it, I will be posting a download link in the next day or so of the stock Android 5.1.1 ROM shipped on the DDR variant.
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That's good - but maybe @acejavelin and yourself, and others might consider if it's possible to do this mod on any device variant, that would be of a VM USA, Boost, Sprint, TextNow, FreedomPop, with the Snapdragon 410, msm8916 Baseband used.
It's way over my head, but wouldn't any device (branded from any of the above) with the Snapdragon 410, msm8916 Baseband work for this? This ideal then ported to them? I know it's drifting away from your "Virgin Mobile Data Done Right Moto G3" - thread title, maybe you could add others too, in the title - if this application fits.
EDITED - Removed content not being directly related to the Threads Title.
MotoJunkie01 said:
By the way, glad you finally drummed in with some input. Haha. Good to hear from you as always.
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But Friend, I had posts #4, and #6 before post #10- eerie of that addition factor to math. . . adds up to the post you've quoted
I highly doubt this would possible with any other device that doesn't have a DDR variant... The Moto G 2015 is kind of unique in that we have the radio firmware and other vendor specific files for the DDR variant and a way to flash them. Few other devices could fit that criteria.
acejavelin said:
I highly doubt this would possible with any other device that doesn't have a DDR variant... The Moto G 2015 is kind of unique in that we have the radio firmware and other vendor specific files for the DDR variant and a way to flash them. Few other devices could fit that criteria.
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I agree. The msm8916 baseband seems to be significant to the data loophole yet it is not. I once thought this myself until I discovered the single thread that makes the loophole possible. It lies in the network itself -- and the DDR Moto G3 can connect to this loophole --- as @acejavelin noted --- due to the unique nature of the radio firmware. I have the radio firmware to other DDR devices as well -- the G3 just happens to be my favorite.
MotoJunkie01 said:
I agree. The msm8916 baseband seems to be significant to the data loophole yet it is not. I once thought this myself until I discovered the single thread that makes the loophole possible. It lies in the network itself -- and the DDR Moto G3 can connect to this loophole --- as @acejavelin noted --- due to the unique nature of the radio firmware. I have the radio firmware to other DDR devices as well -- the G3 just happens to be my favorite. But I must admit I once thought the exact same thing on the msm8916 Snapdragon 410 devices.
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Your analysis is exactly what I once theorized -- that the "trick" was in the construction of the device -- That the msm8916 was necessary for the loophole to work. In fact, many DDR devices have the msm8916 under the hood. But there are also others with different basebands which also attain connectivity.
MotoJunkie01 said:
I agree. The msm8916 baseband seems to be significant to the data loophole yet it is not. I once thought this myself until I discovered the single thread that makes the loophole possible. It lies in the network itself -- and the DDR Moto G3 can connect to this loophole --- as @acejavelin noted --- due to the unique nature of the radio firmware. I have the radio firmware to other DDR devices as well -- the G3 just happens to be my favorite.
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Slowly this is sinking into some logic for me, as I've never rode a twisting, turning, bucking bull - I guess I'll have to learn to stay on this too, as the wild ride that bull would of been.
Ok radio firmware then - is anyone on XDA up to understanding fully the principles here, and if any mod's are possible to that kind of a nature in porting any values out? Looking at it another way is there a possibly of a DDR firmware porting in (changing) the value in that firmware to be used on a different msm8916 baseband device variant? Someone with a good knowledge could compare different DDR radio firmware to other DDR or NON-DDR devices and see common points of interest in them? What's possible here?
MotoJunkie01 said:
But there are also others with different basebands which also attain connectivity. /-\ It lies in the network itself.
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Others as in what kind of reference - non DDR devices? What are the other basebands that are useful to the network?
I know I can come up with the questions, but I have no knowledge to find the answers yet. Hopefully my line of questions spurs someone into thinking along these lines and then does have some knowledge to experiment.
Radio firmware is not open source, it's binaries... You can't really just open and compare it to another radio. Radio firmware is proprietary, it just talks to the RIL and kernel, it's part of Android we don't get get the source for.
acejavelin said:
Radio firmware is not open source, it's binaries... You can't really just open and compare it to another radio. Radio firmware is proprietary, it just talks to the RIL and kernel, it's part of Android we don't get get the source for.
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That's interesting and a good point made Sir.
If it's talking to the RIL and kernel - can one trap this conversation?
If it's talking in binaries then is it possible to be converted to something understandable or at least viewed? Does it talk differently to both or say
more less the same thing to both (RIL and kernel) ?
Thanks
ResistanceIsFutile said:
That's interesting and a good point made Sir.
If it's talking to the RIL and kernel - can one trap this conversation?
If it's talking in binaries then is it possible to be converted to something understandable or at least viewed? Does it talk differently to both or say
more less the same thing to both (RIL and kernel) ?
Thanks
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The communication by the firmware isn't relevant to the loophole. Trust me when I say the loophole lies in the network itself. The DDR devices can connect to this loophole due to known configurations in radio firmware.
Good afternoon ladies and gents,
I am here today seeking your guidance on compiling the stock rom for the lg v20 h910 (AT&T) variant. I was able to grab the rom source and the kernel source from here .... as far as that being the right rom is beyond me lol... but it matches the model number so i thought i would give it a try. and i am wondering if anyone can show me the right direction in do so myself. i have a desktop pc running win10 64 pro build 1607 ( redstone 2 ), but i also have a macbook pro if i cannot use my pc. if i have to install linux i will do so. any guidance would be much appreciated.
I want to lock the bootloader after the dirty santa exploit and also return the device to at&t for an upgrade, i want to get the s8+ . The reason i want to lock it and unroot ( stock it basically ) is because i am afraid of at&t coming after me for the full price of the device, especially that i have the NATF mega rom with the static boot screen and i am also afraid that they would think the device is not functional. The extrior of the device is flawless, no scratches nor dents or anything of that sort.
Nothing?
Can you not use google to search the forums for the answers on using LGUP to maybe restore your phone to stock, thus negating the need to possibly install multiple operating systems, or compile code?
I do not use your variant of this device (i am on the LS997) so my answer should be immediately discarded, but by and large more devices can be restored to factory utiluzing LGUP than can not be restored.
Good night, and good luck.
elijah420 said:
Can you not use google to search the forums for the answers on using LGUP to maybe restore your phone to stock, thus negating the need to possibly install multiple operating systems, or compile code?
I do not use your variant of this device (i am on the LS997) so my answer should be immediately discarded, but by and large more devices can be restored to factory utiluzing LGUP than can not be restored.
Good night, and good luck.
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If there was an available kdz for my variant I would have used lg flash tool. Or lgup. Thats why i asked for a guide in the right direction when it came to compiling. Because the source code is available for h910 which is the at&t variant but no available kdz. So i was simply asking to learn how to compile a kdz from source code.