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I'm having some problems with my phone and customer care told me to just switch it out through the buyers remorse policy at a T-mobile store. I know you have to erase all signs of having rooted the phone before sending it to HTC under the limited warranty or else they charge you. Do I also have to set it back to stock before returning it directly to T-mobile through buyers remorse?
Rooting the phone voids the warranty
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I would just to make things easier. It's easy enough to do, why make more problems than you need?
I know it voids the warranty but what exactly does that mean in terms of consequences when I return the phone to T-mobile via buyers remorse given they take it back without noticing? It's actually the mytouch and we don't have the stock recovery for it yet and I already put a custom recovery on it so I can't get it back to stock (yet)
Thanks for the help
I think the insurance may be handled differently, but when I had to return my G1 for an insurance replacement I didnt bother to un-root it.
I never heard anything about it.
My only guess is that they won't repair your phone and say, "Oh, you voided the warranty by rooting so we can't help you."
Or maybe they will and charge you for it. Not sure, but my guess is that they won't be much of help.
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Sv3nt3k said:
My only guess is that they won't repair your phone and say, "Oh, you voided the warranty by rooting so we can't help you."
Or maybe they will and charge you for it. Not sure, but my guess is that they won't be much of help.
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I was just gonna exchange it since I'm still in my buyers remorse without even bringing up the rooting.
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carlsbad0331 said:
I think the insurance may be handled differently, but when I had to return my G1 for an insurance replacement I didnt bother to un-root it.
I never heard anything about it.
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Not that I recommend it or anything, but back in the G1 days my 2nd and 3rd replacements were rooted. One of them I undid, one I didn't. I never heard anything about it from T-Mobile.
When you send a phone back, they usually check to see that a) the screen isn't broken and b) the water damage stickers are ok. Beyond that, they don't do much besides toss them on a pile to be sent back to the manufacturer.
c_licious said:
I know it voids the warranty but what exactly does that mean in terms of consequences when I return the phone to T-mobile via buyers remorse given they take it back without noticing? It's actually the mytouch and we don't have the stock recovery for it yet and I already put a custom recovery on it so I can't get it back to stock (yet)
Thanks for the help
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Why didn't you backup your stock rom through recovery before flashing a custom one? Would make everything a cinch
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If anything, maybe you can not mention it and see where that takes you and proceed to feign ignorance, haha.
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Sv3nt3k said:
If anything, maybe you can not mention it and see where that takes you and proceed to feign ignorance, haha.
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Root? What is this root you speak of? I assure you I have not attempted to water my phone.
Just send it back and see if they even notice.
hawaiian.monzta said:
Why didn't you backup your stock rom through recovery before flashing a custom one? Would make everything a cinch
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It's not the rom but the recovery that I can't restore. It's all good though. I'm just gonna return it to the store with ClockworkMod recovery installed. They won't notice. I was just wondering how HTC will handle it once it gets shipped back to them but since the return wasn't processed through them it shouldn't be a problem. Thanks for the input guys!
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If u got the insurance it doesn't matter. If not then u better go back to stock or they'll charge u for the phone
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I can't say for the G2, but when I had my Nexus One, I had it replaced through HTC under factory warrant and the bootloader was unlocked (which is suppose to void warrant). They never said anything about it and never charged me anything.
Correct, they won't really care unless u bricked it. Otherwise it was faulty hardware or remorse. N if u bring it n have warranty, I'm not sure, but they probably replace it for a fee.
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c_licious said:
I'm having some problems with my phone and customer care told me to just switch it out through the buyers remorse policy at a T-mobile store. I know you have to erase all signs of having rooted the phone before sending it to HTC under the limited warranty or else they charge you. Do I also have to set it back to stock before returning it directly to T-mobile through buyers remorse?
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Hi, i worked for a tmobile licensed retailer for a year and continue to have contacts within corporate locations as well as other licensees and the truth is as follows:
The employees don't care a whole lot to see if the software is rooted or not, more often than not, a fistful of people have heard of rooting but dont know exactly how to root or what it means, and a smaller fistful are people like myself.
If youre terribly worried, just put on the stock boot animation or flash it to stock (ish) rom. If its a brick, its a brick, just dont walk in announcing that its something you did; they should swap it out there and then with a minimum of questions asked. If they ask what happened, you dont know. We're only instructed to check the water damage stickers and warranty voiding screw stickers just to make sure its not user error, we were/are in no way trained to discern the software's integrity and are instructed to do little more than factory reset it. The end
I cant speak for the corporate locations but our exchanged phones would be sent at the end of each month to some tertiary company that refurbishes the phones. Even if HTC wanted to send agents with laptops out to check on all the HBOOTs and Roots, they would have to do it at a store level, or next up, the refurb centers; at which point these phones are out of your hands and theres not a whole lot they could possibly do to trace it back to you.
tl;dr
Do not worry, play it cool
PS:
And if they dont want to swap it out within your 14 days (30 if youre in CA), dial customer care right there and tell em youre at a store and they wont do the exchange; the CC rep will put his indignant face on and harass the rep at the store, making threats to file complaints and whatnot.
PPS:
I remember instances where the 1.6 OTA was bricking phones, and if i remember correctly an update just rolled out recently.
(probably a soft brick that could have easily been resolved with some fastboot shenanigans, but i didnt care enough to install adb+fastboot on 3 computers)
N31N said:
Hi, i worked for a tmobile licensed retailer for a year and continue to have contacts within corporate locations as well as other licensees and the truth is as follows:
The employees don't care a whole lot to see if the software is rooted or not, more often than not, a fistful of people have heard of rooting but dont know exactly how to root or what it means, and a smaller fistful are people like myself.
If youre terribly worried, just put on the stock boot animation or flash it to stock (ish) rom. If its a brick, its a brick, just dont walk in announcing that its something you did; they should swap it out there and then with a minimum of questions asked. If they ask what happened, you dont know. We're only instructed to check the water damage stickers and warranty voiding screw stickers just to make sure its not user error, we were/are in no way trained to discern the software's integrity and are instructed to do little more than factory reset it. The end
I cant speak for the corporate locations but our exchanged phones would be sent at the end of each month to some tertiary company that refurbishes the phones. Even if HTC wanted to send agents with laptops out to check on all the HBOOTs and Roots, they would have to do it at a store level, or next up, the refurb centers; at which point these phones are out of your hands and theres not a whole lot they could possibly do to trace it back to you.
tl;dr
Do not worry, play it cool
PS:
And if they dont want to swap it out within your 14 days (30 if youre in CA), dial customer care right there and tell em youre at a store and they wont do the exchange; the CC rep will put his indignant face on and harass the rep at the store, making threats to file complaints and whatnot.
PPS:
I remember instances where the 1.6 OTA was bricking phones, and if i remember correctly an update just rolled out recently.
(probably a soft brick that could have easily been resolved with some fastboot shenanigans, but i didnt care enough to install adb+fastboot on 3 computers)
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Wow thanks for the information thats helpful... I am not saying I am going to brick my phone and try it out but I will definately remember this when a hinge breaks or something
N31N said:
Hi, i worked for a tmobile licensed retailer for a year and continue to have contacts within corporate locations as well as other licensees and the truth is as follows:
The employees don't care a whole lot to see if the software is rooted or not, more often than not, a fistful of people have heard of rooting but dont know exactly how to root or what it means, and a smaller fistful are people like myself.
If youre terribly worried, just put on the stock boot animation or flash it to stock (ish) rom. If its a brick, its a brick, just dont walk in announcing that its something you did; they should swap it out there and then with a minimum of questions asked. If they ask what happened, you dont know. We're only instructed to check the water damage stickers and warranty voiding screw stickers just to make sure its not user error, we were/are in no way trained to discern the software's integrity and are instructed to do little more than factory reset it. The end
I cant speak for the corporate locations but our exchanged phones would be sent at the end of each month to some tertiary company that refurbishes the phones. Even if HTC wanted to send agents with laptops out to check on all the HBOOTs and Roots, they would have to do it at a store level, or next up, the refurb centers; at which point these phones are out of your hands and theres not a whole lot they could possibly do to trace it back to you.
tl;dr
Do not worry, play it cool
PS:
And if they dont want to swap it out within your 14 days (30 if youre in CA), dial customer care right there and tell em youre at a store and they wont do the exchange; the CC rep will put his indignant face on and harass the rep at the store, making threats to file complaints and whatnot.
PPS:
I remember instances where the 1.6 OTA was bricking phones, and if i remember correctly an update just rolled out recently.
(probably a soft brick that could have easily been resolved with some fastboot shenanigans, but i didnt care enough to install adb+fastboot on 3 computers)
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Why thank you sir for taking the time to post this. It's nice to have some first hand information on this. Gave me peace of mind.
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N31N said:
Hi, i worked for a tmobile licensed retailer for a year and continue to have contacts within corporate locations as well as other licensees and the truth is as follows:
The employees don't care a whole lot to see if the software is rooted or not, more often than not, a fistful of people have heard of rooting but dont know exactly how to root or what it means, and a smaller fistful are people like myself.
If youre terribly worried, just put on the stock boot animation or flash it to stock (ish) rom. If its a brick, its a brick, just dont walk in announcing that its something you did; they should swap it out there and then with a minimum of questions asked. If they ask what happened, you dont know. We're only instructed to check the water damage stickers and warranty voiding screw stickers just to make sure its not user error, we were/are in no way trained to discern the software's integrity and are instructed to do little more than factory reset it. The end
I cant speak for the corporate locations but our exchanged phones would be sent at the end of each month to some tertiary company that refurbishes the phones. Even if HTC wanted to send agents with laptops out to check on all the HBOOTs and Roots, they would have to do it at a store level, or next up, the refurb centers; at which point these phones are out of your hands and theres not a whole lot they could possibly do to trace it back to you.
tl;dr
Do not worry, play it cool
PS:
And if they dont want to swap it out within your 14 days (30 if youre in CA), dial customer care right there and tell em youre at a store and they wont do the exchange; the CC rep will put his indignant face on and harass the rep at the store, making threats to file complaints and whatnot.
PPS:
I remember instances where the 1.6 OTA was bricking phones, and if i remember correctly an update just rolled out recently.
(probably a soft brick that could have easily been resolved with some fastboot shenanigans, but i didnt care enough to install adb+fastboot on 3 computers)
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This is one of the most intelligent and complete posts I have had the pleasure to read. My logic and previous experience told me the same thing, but to have a person with "better than first-hand" experience confirm my beliefs is huge.
Kudos for taking your time to give back to the community
N31N said:
Hi, i worked for a tmobile licensed retailer for a year and continue to have contacts within corporate locations as well as other licensees and the truth is as follows:
The employees don't care a whole lot to see if the software is rooted or not, more often than not, a fistful of people have heard of rooting but dont know exactly how to root or what it means, and a smaller fistful are people like myself.
If youre terribly worried, just put on the stock boot animation or flash it to stock (ish) rom. If its a brick, its a brick, just dont walk in announcing that its something you did; they should swap it out there and then with a minimum of questions asked. If they ask what happened, you dont know. We're only instructed to check the water damage stickers and warranty voiding screw stickers just to make sure its not user error, we were/are in no way trained to discern the software's integrity and are instructed to do little more than factory reset it. The end
I cant speak for the corporate locations but our exchanged phones would be sent at the end of each month to some tertiary company that refurbishes the phones. Even if HTC wanted to send agents with laptops out to check on all the HBOOTs and Roots, they would have to do it at a store level, or next up, the refurb centers; at which point these phones are out of your hands and theres not a whole lot they could possibly do to trace it back to you.
tl;dr
Do not worry, play it cool
PS:
And if they dont want to swap it out within your 14 days (30 if youre in CA), dial customer care right there and tell em youre at a store and they wont do the exchange; the CC rep will put his indignant face on and harass the rep at the store, making threats to file complaints and whatnot.
PPS:
I remember instances where the 1.6 OTA was bricking phones, and if i remember correctly an update just rolled out recently.
(probably a soft brick that could have easily been resolved with some fastboot shenanigans, but i didnt care enough to install adb+fastboot on 3 computers)
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Can confirm the same will happen at a corporate store. Especially if you go with the same person who sold it to you. They will be more worried about you canceling what you did because you will mess with their money lol.
If I wipe the memory using the recovery mode, will I get rid of everything except the recovery software?
I want to get rid of every single file in phone, except the recovery mode.
matheussousuke said:
If I wipe the memory using the recovery mode, will I get rid of everything except the recovery software?
I want to get rid of every single file in phone, except the recovery mode.
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Using recovery mode returns phone to "clean ROM" status. Your data from internal card will be erased, installed apk's as well, however all data on external card will remain. However, the data can be (relatively easily) recovered... so if you're looking for something what would erase your phone, I'd recommend to perform erasing in recovery mode, then encrypting phone, filling it with several apks and random data and... re-erase it, with de-encryption.
spamtrash said:
Using recovery mode returns phone to "clean ROM" status. Your data from internal card will be erased, installed apk's as well, however all data on external card will remain. However, the data can be (relatively easily) recovered... so if you're looking for something what would erase your phone, I'd recommend to perform erasing in recovery mode, then encrypting phone, filling it with several apks and random data and... re-erase it, with de-encryption.
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Look, there is this site that looks like ebay, but it is related to South America, and a seller is selling this device, this is a trustable seller, with more than 2700 sales and a 99% of positive feedback. But he said he would make no invoice for me, and I need the invoice to prove that I'm the new owner of the phone.
I'm worried if he track the phone after I receive it in home, so he may say it was stolen.
Here is the phone's page: produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-584770140-samsung-galaxy-s4-i9500-16gb-octacore-pronta-entrega-_JM
matheussousuke said:
Look, there is this site that looks like ebay, but it is related to South America, and a seller is selling this device, this is a trustable seller, with more than 2700 sales and a 99% of positive feedback. But he said he would make no invoice for me, and I need the invoice to prove that I'm the new owner of the phone.
I'm worried if he track the phone after I receive it in home, so he may say it was stolen.
Here is the phone's page: produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-584770140-samsung-galaxy-s4-i9500-16gb-octacore-pronta-entrega-_JM
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DO NOT accept this phone. DO NOT buy it. You will have no evidence if the phone was stolen elsewhere in the world and is blocked in some countries. And: Yes, it MAY happen. Some gray zone guys are making the temporary fake IMEI tricks, which will return your phone to its original state as soon as you'd upgrade ROM. In such case, you will have a stolen by someone brick.
I have no idea how it looks in Brazil (unfortunately) but in the country where I live, invoice is legally required by law.
One more advice: require that the phone's IMEI shall be on the invoice (as it is printed on the box, it shall be not a problem for seller, right?).
Yeah, I asked 3 times, he refused the 3 times, I even said I'd pay for the invoice if I had to, and he refused. What should I do then to buy an used galaxy phone on the web?
matheussousuke said:
Yeah, I asked 3 times, he refused the 3 times, I even said I'd pay for the invoice if I had to, and he refused. What should I do then to buy an used galaxy phone on the web?
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Just use a reputable website that has strong buyer protections in place.
The problem with what your original post asked about wiping data is what it would not even remotely come close to protecting you from a stolen phone. The original owner doesn't,t need access to the device to kill the imei. The imei is already bad when he gives it to you.
And his refusal to provide the original imei on a written invoice makes this an OBVIOUS fraud.
Skipjacks said:
Just use a reputable website that has strong buyer protections in place.
The problem with what your original post asked about wiping data is what it would not even remotely come close to protecting you from a stolen phone. The original owner doesn't,t need access to the device to kill the imei. The imei is already bad when he gives it to you.
And his refusal to provide the original imei on a written invoice makes this an OBVIOUS fraud.
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I didn't even know that I had to ask for the IMEI to be inserted on the invoice, I only knew about that now in this topic. I found other two sellers on the same website, with the same product, they said they'd create the invoice and that it's fine, they will insert the IMEI on the invoice. The problem now is that their phones are only 250 - 300 bucks cheaper than the brand new, at least shipment is already included. You guys think I should buy it?
No. We do not think you should buy it.
Its $300 cheaper than anywhere else. There is a reason for that.
Skipjacks said:
No. We do not think you should buy it.
Its $300 cheaper than anywhere else. There is a reason for that.
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Why not? they already said they would make an invoice.
matheussousuke said:
Why not? they already said they would make an invoice.
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Its your money. Go ahead.
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Its your money. Go ahead.
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But you said I shouldnt. If he's going to make an invoice, why did you say that? There is gotta be a good reason, you're the expert here and I'm sure that the knowledge you have to share with us is really important, please say it.
matheussousuke said:
But you said I shouldnt. If he's going to make an invoice, why did you say that? There is gotta be a good reason, you're the expert here and I'm sure that the knowledge you have to share with us is really important, please say it.
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Its been said plenty in this thread.
The imei can be faked temporarily.
The imei can be totally legit but the phone can still be stolen. It might not even be reported stolen yet. One of the scams is to sell a phone, then report it stolen which gets the imei blocked, then get a new phone through insurance.
The phone is half the price of anyplace else you can find it! That is just not how the free market works. A price that low is suspicious.
Everything you have described about this raises red flags.
Unless the place you are buying it from has ironclad buyer protection policies that are verifiable, you are taking a big risk.
If you don't agree, I don't care. Its not my money. Its not my decision. I'm offering an honest opinion as a disinterested third party. If you buy it I hope it all works out for you. But the odds are much higher that its a scam than if you bought a slightly more expensive one that comes from a more established store.
Skipjacks said:
Its been said plenty in this thread.
The imei can be faked temporarily.
The imei can be totally legit but the phone can still be stolen. It might not even be reported stolen yet. One of the scams is to sell a phone, then report it stolen which gets the imei blocked, then get a new phone through insurance.
The phone is half the price of anyplace else you can find it! That is just not how the free market works. A price that low is suspicious.
Everything you have described about this raises red flags.
Unless the place you are buying it from has ironclad buyer protection policies that are verifiable, you are taking a big risk.
If you don't agree, I don't care. Its not my money. Its not my decision. I'm offering an honest opinion as a disinterested third party. If you buy it I hope it all works out for you. But the odds are much higher that its a scam than if you bought a slightly more expensive one that comes from a more established store.
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I got your point and I respect your opinion, but 955 is not the half of the price. The new one is 1300. Anyway, I'll buy the new one. Thx again for your help, I really appreciated it.
I have a 2014 Moto X, 16 GB with the bamboo back, on Verizon. The back is peeling off, and I've just finished speaking with Motorola.
I didn't buy the device - it was traded. Despite the fact that I have the box, the IMEI, and everything except the original order information, they refuse to help me. If I had the order info, I'd be well on my way to a new one, but without it, they're happy to leave me completely swinging by myself.
So if you're thinking about buying one used, or giving one as a gift... I wouldn't recommend it. They don't care, and couldn't be bothered to try and find a solution. Last motorola product I'll ever buy.
Not exactly Motorola's fault.
In what way? Tell me of another company that doesn't honor their warranty if you gift a device. It's not like I don't have the serial number, IMEI, and every other bit of info for the thing. Every other company on the planet uses serial numbers for warranties. It shouldn't matter who owns the device or if they kept their receipt. This isn't a pair of headphones from Best Buy, here.
Not only that, but it's a 2014. It can only be so old. It's not like this might somehow be out of warranty.
most if not all items for electronics.... from my past experience that the warranty is only for the original purchaser, its usually in the warranty policy, I buy and sell a lot of used phones, and I know that`s the chance I take of buying used.
below is from moto website
MOTOROLA MOBILITY INC.
LIMITED GLOBAL WARRANTY
MOBILE PHONES
FOR CONSUMERS WHO ARE COVERED BY CONSUMER PROTECTION LAWS OR
REGULATIONS IN THEIR COUNTRY OF PURCHASE OR, IF DIFFERENT, THEIR COUNTRY OF
RESIDENCE, THE BENEFITS CONFERRED BY THIS LIMITED WARRANTY ARE IN ADDITION
TO ALL RIGHTS AND REMEDIES CONVEYED BY SUCH CONSUMER PROTECTION LAWS
AND REGULATIONS.
Who is Covered?
This Limited Warranty extends only to the first consumer purchaser of the Product, and is not transferable.
It sucks, but I have never owned an electronic device where the warranty extends to the second hand market
You say it is the last Motorola phone you will ever buy, perhaps a wiser choice would be to make this the last second hand phone you ever buy.
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Can you not glue the back?
At the minimum you could send it in and they can reglue it or replace the back cover. It will cost you but it's better than nothing. You might be able to negotiate a deal.
You never get warranty coverage without proof of purchase, it's basically Warranty 101. My advice would be to contact the original seller and ask them if they can do a warranty return for you.
I have never heard of a company that warrants an item with no proof of purchase. Even with proof of purchase, the warranty on most consumer goods is not transferable.
Factory warranties on cars is the only case I can think of where they don't care about proof of purchase (because they already know when it was purchased).
One thing to keep in mind is that sometimes your experience will vary from rep to rep.
And also your attitude going into it is important as well.
I have a friend that gets no help ANYWHERE, and it's because of the manner in which he speaks. He's not outright rude, but he's a bit socially inept, so he comes off very abrasive. You can hear kindness. People like to help nice people.
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In what way? Tell me of another company that doesn't honor their warranty if you gift a device. It's not like I don't have the serial number, IMEI, and every other bit of info for the thing. Every other company on the planet uses serial numbers for warranties. It shouldn't matter who owns the device or if they kept their receipt. This isn't a pair of headphones from Best Buy, here.
Not only that, but it's a 2014. It can only be so old. It's not like this might somehow be out of warranty.
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The micro USB port on my black 16gb X broke. I took it to my local brick & mortar Verizon store and they ordered a replacement device, no questions asked. They never asked to see any paperwork.
It sounds like you've got nothing to loose by trying the same thing?
dg4prez said:
I didn't buy the device - it was traded. Despite the fact that I have the box, the IMEI, and everything except the original order information, they refuse to help me. If I had the order info, I'd be well on my way to a new one, but without it, they're happy to leave me completely swinging by myself.
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Ask the seller for the info. I think it's good Motorola doesn't accept warranty without this information because thiefs will not have this info, only people who honestly bought it...
(btw it's very stupid for a company to not honor warranty, within the normal warranty period, for owners after the first owner because this severly impacts resell price and thus selling price)
You are correct.
Apple don't need proof of purchase for warranty, they have their own database based on IMEI/SN.
So if you purchase iPhone from Craigslist and it is still under warranty, Apple will still honor the warranty.
No Android OEM has this kind of customer service, not HTC/Motorola/Samsung/Google as far as I know.
I have read reports from some folks who successfully applied a small amount of glue under the peeled up wood, might be worth a try
dg4prez said:
I didn't buy the device - it was traded.
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Um. This is standard operating procedure for most companies.
sxp123731 said:
You are correct.
Apple don't need proof of purchase for warranty, they have their own database based on IMEI/SN.
So if you purchase iPhone from Craigslist and it is still under warranty, Apple will still honor the warranty.
No Android OEM has this kind of customer service, not HTC/Motorola/Samsung/Google as far as I know.
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My Nexus S that I bought used off eBay needed a screen replacement, and Samsung did so - no questions asked. Great experience. I haven't had to deal with an OEM for warranty since.
PhilDX said:
I have read reports from some folks who successfully applied a small amount of glue under the peeled up wood, might be worth a try
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You can either remove the whole back and re glue it or just use a very fine felt brush to apply glue to the edge of wood. Worked for me. Sent mine back because a different corner peeled. @dg4prez
Fix it your self, It does suck they wont honor a product under warranty.
I know a lot of companies who follow this rule but there are many companies who don't.
I always try and buy product from companies who have exceptional customer service and warranties, its worth it, even if you pay a little more.
I bought a Moto X for a friend of mine, my card, my email, my delivery address. He broke his screen a week later, he called them up and they asked him to send it in, charged him $120 for a new screen and sent him back a new phone, he never needes the order number or anything.
Last week i tore the leather on my moto x, called motorola, they asked for order number, email, address, charged me $25 and sent me a new phone and i will be sending back the one that has the torn back.
Guess it depends on who you speak with.
Also, as was mentioned earlier Apple warranties extend to any owner of the phone, since their proof of purchase comes up when the IMEI/SN is entered (you can even check warranty status on their website)
Only company that got close to this is samsung, i used to work in a cellphone shop and wed brick ALOT of phones testing things out, including note 3, s5 etc and samsung out always unbrick them for free even though we were not the original buyers.
2003vstrom said:
most if not all items for electronics.... from my past experience that the warranty is only for the original purchaser, its usually in the warranty policy, I buy and sell a lot of used phones, and I know that`s the chance I take of buying used.
below is from moto website
MOTOROLA MOBILITY INC.
LIMITED GLOBAL WARRANTY
MOBILE PHONES
FOR CONSUMERS WHO ARE COVERED BY CONSUMER PROTECTION LAWS OR
REGULATIONS IN THEIR COUNTRY OF PURCHASE OR, IF DIFFERENT, THEIR COUNTRY OF
RESIDENCE, THE BENEFITS CONFERRED BY THIS LIMITED WARRANTY ARE IN ADDITION
TO ALL RIGHTS AND REMEDIES CONVEYED BY SUCH CONSUMER PROTECTION LAWS
AND REGULATIONS.
Who is Covered?
This Limited Warranty extends only to the first consumer purchaser of the Product, and is not transferable.
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That rule definitely would't survive here in Europe. No matter either written or not. It's against consumer protection regulations. And what is even more weird is that the provision is in direct conflict with freedom of contract principle. Neither state nor any third party could interfere with the contract without clear legal basis. Warranty refers to the sold good not to the person who bought it.
dg4prez said:
In what way? Tell me of another company that doesn't honor their warranty if you gift a device. It's not like I don't have the serial number, IMEI, and every other bit of info for the thing. Every other company on the planet uses serial numbers for warranties. It shouldn't matter who owns the device or if they kept their receipt. This isn't a pair of headphones from Best Buy, here.
Not only that, but it's a 2014. It can only be so old. It's not like this might somehow be out of warranty.
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Companies warranty to the original purchaser except if it is a gift. Did you register the device with them or did the original purchaser?
My Verizon 10 has formed a yellow band on the right side of the screen. I would like to send it in for repair, but I bought the phone second hand and am not using it on the verizon network.
1) Would Verizon accept my warranty claim without a receipt or VZW account?
2) Would HTC repair it under warranty as if I bought it from them?
3) if the answer to 2) is no, would HTC repair it at a cost, and does anyone know how much a screen replacement costs?
Getting in touch with the original owner is not possible either. Any help would be appreciated!
Update: Just finished speaking with htc, they will accept my warranty claim directly! Hope they don't surprise me with a cost quote now!
Verizon won't do anything for you. The only way they would is if you are the original purchaser, in which case they will replace the device if it's within the manufacturer's 1 year warranty. HTC *might* do something for you, but I'm not too knowledgeable on their warranty policy. There's a good chance they will restrict warranty service to the original purchaser, or tell you that since it's a Verizon phone, you'll have to go through them. HTC does offer a one-time "uh-oh" protection, but that's limited to people who purchased their phone through HTC.com.
You can try it yourself, the digitizer runs around $70 on eBay, but it isn't a simple repair. Otherwise, most screen repair services charge in the $150-$200 range.
Here's the HTC warranty information. It looks like you'll want to have the phone 100% stock with locked bootloader and s-on. http://dl4.htc.com/Web_materials/Ma...evA.PDF?_ga=1.178459428.1435750642.1485623721
From the Warranty disclosure:
"A copy of the original invoice, receipt or bill of sale for the purchase of the Product or Accessory. You
must present a valid proof of purchase upon making any claims pursuant to this Limited Warranty. If no valid proof of purchase is supplied and the Product or Accessory was manufactured more than fifteen (15) months prior to the date the claim is made, HTC has no obligation to provide support under the Limited Warranty."
pastorbennett said:
Verizon won't do anything for you. The only way they would is if you are the original purchaser, in which case they will replace the device if it's within the manufacturer's 1 year warranty. HTC *might* do something for you, but I'm not too knowledgeable on their warranty policy. There's a good chance they will restrict warranty service to the original purchaser, or tell you that since it's a Verizon phone, you'll have to go through them. HTC does offer a one-time "uh-oh" protection, but that's limited to people who purchased their phone through HTC.com.
You can try it yourself, the digitizer runs around $70 on eBay, but it isn't a simple repair. Otherwise, most screen repair services charge in the $150-$200 range.
Here's the HTC warranty information. It looks like you'll want to have the phone 100% stock with locked bootloader and s-on. http://dl4.htc.com/Web_materials/Ma...evA.PDF?_ga=1.178459428.1435750642.1485623721
From the Warranty disclosure:
"A copy of the original invoice, receipt or bill of sale for the purchase of the Product or Accessory. You
must present a valid proof of purchase upon making any claims pursuant to this Limited Warranty. If no valid proof of purchase is supplied and the Product or Accessory was manufactured more than fifteen (15) months prior to the date the claim is made, HTC has no obligation to provide support under the Limited Warranty."
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Thanks, everything that you said is about what I was expecting myself. But htc surprised me by accepting it as an in-warranty claim. We'll see how it goes.
Tarima said:
Thanks, everything that you said is about what I was expecting myself. But htc surprised me by accepting it as an in-warranty claim. We'll see how it goes.
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That's good to hear. I'd wager it's because the date of manufacture is well within the 12 months, since I don't think the HTC 10 has even been out a year. It says a lot about a company that they're honoring their warranty when, technically, the don't have to.
That's awesome and it definitely says a lot about what type of company HTC is. They have been my go to for years and I'm so happy to continue backing them when they make business decisions like these.
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That's awesome and it definitely says a lot about what type of company HTC is. They have been my go to for years and I'm so happy to continue backing them when they make business decisions like these.
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True, I was also impressed when I had my m7 and they offered to fix my purple-tinted camera for free way after the warranty was over (I didn't go for it because they said I would absolutely have to pay to fix my screen at the same time even though I didn't want to). But I've also heard bad things about their customer service (for example at the launch of the 10). This is my first time dealing with a warranty claim with HTC so I'll cross my fingers it goes well.
Update for anyone in a similar situation: HTC replaced the screen and shipped the phone back to me from Texas to Montreal, Canada overnight at no charge. The whole process including my own shipping took only 8 days, pretty impressive. And not a single dent/scratch or other trace of the repair. Very impressed with this service.
Only downside is having to pay 40$ shipping with insurance for a faulty device, but considering I didn't have a receipt I won't complain too much here!
I bought mine via craigslist. Warranty is still good for another year but it was not transferred to me. How can I convince Google to send me an unlocked bootloader? Phone is in perfect condition with everything working. Came with original box.
So you are basically asking us how to defraud Google?
fiffan86 said:
So you are basically asking us how to defraud Google?
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And is not it necessary for Verizon to ask for an unlock? I'm also interested in this
Should have bought a unlocked version to start with.
godrick15 said:
I bought mine via craigslist. Warranty is still good for another year but it was not transferred to me. How can I convince Google to send me an unlocked bootloader? Phone is in perfect condition with everything working. Came with original box.
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A warranty replacement will most likely end up giving you the same device but refurbished as the purpose of warranties is to fix your device/item with the exact one but without the defect.
To me it looks like your asking if google can give you a non-verizon one in exchange for your Verizon edition. That's not how a warranty exchange works. As much as I would like to change the color of my 2 XL, I'm stuck with what I CHOSE.
Why not try calling Google themselves and ask them so you can speak with them directly?
Travisdroidx2 said:
Should have bought a unlocked version to start with.
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I hate this answer bro. No offense. Not everyone can afford $900 upfront. And their finance option isn't that easy to get approval.
slogar25 said:
I hate this answer bro. No offense. Not everyone can afford $900 upfront. And their finance option isn't that easy to get approval.
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You can get an unlocked one for the same price as the Verizon model.
It doesn't make it okay to buy a red car through a private seller and then ask the dealer to give you a blue one because you don't like the blue, although the red one is perfectly fine. He chose the Verizon one, he's stuck with it.
richii0207 said:
You can get an unlocked one for the same price as the Verizon model.
It doesn't make it okay to buy a red car through a private seller and then ask the dealer to give you a blue one because you don't like the blue, although the red one is perfectly fine. He chose the Verizon one, he's stuck with it.
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Point taken. Your previous statement had nothing to do with his situation. He bought it off of Craigslist because I'm assuming didn't want to pay out right for it from Google. And Verizon doesn't sell unlocked ones. Like I said I have good credit and still couldn't get approved through Google financing but because I'm a Verizon customer in good standing all it took for me was to walk in the door
godrick15 said:
I bought mine via craigslist. Warranty is still good for another year but it was not transferred to me. How can I convince Google to send me an unlocked bootloader? Phone is in perfect condition with everything working. Came with original box.
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The warranty on the device is valid only for the person who originally bought it. Since you are not the original buyer, the warranty is null and void. Requesting an exchange because of the bootloader being locked would not be honored even if you were the original purchaser of the device; bootloader locking is not a defect.
You're not going to be able to convince Google to swap devices. So, you either deal with what you have, or sell it on Swappa and get something else.
What have we learned from this boys and girls? Never to buy smartphones off Craigslist. Because if you get lucky, you just end up not being able to unlock a bootloader. If you get really lucky, the IMEI is blacklisted and the police confiscate the device because it was stolen, leaving you out of pocket the amount you spent, with nothing to show for it.
I very much made this mistake in Australia with getting a nexus 6P... It had the horrendous battery issue and the person I bought it off would NOT give me a receipt... So even though the phone was under warranty... It was null and void. I made numous calls to google... To the place the device was bought from... But they couldn't do anything. I bought myself a pixel xl 2 and I got the guy to give me the receipt and proof of purchase. You will not be able to swap the device for an unlocked model... If you have the receipt and it needed to be replaced, they would give you the exact same model/locked to Verizon. Even if it would not a new device... Sorry mate, you are out of luck indefinitely
nevermind....
godrick15 said:
I bought mine via craigslist. Warranty is still good for another year but it was not transferred to me. How can I convince Google to send me an unlocked bootloader? Phone is in perfect condition with everything working. Came with original box.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The warranty on the device is valid only for the person who originally bought it. Since you are not the original buyer, the warranty is null and void. Requesting an exchange because of the bootloader being locked would not be honored even if you were the original purchaser of the device; bootloader locking is not a defect.
You're not going to be able to convince Google to swap devices. So, you either deal with what you have, or sell it on Swappa and get something else.
What have we learned from this boys and girls? Never to buy smartphones off Craigslist. Because if you get lucky, you just end up not being able to unlock a bootloader. If you get really lucky, the IMEI is blacklisted and the police confiscate the device because it was stolen, leaving you out of pocket the amount you spent, with nothing to show for it.
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Warranty on pixel 2 does not even go by the owner. It goes by the imei. So long as that number is not out of warranty from the original date of purchase and the phone has not been blacklisted by verizon or google the warranty is not void. They will only ask your name and address and such if they are going to send a replacement. They will ask for a first name when tou are first begin to conversate with them, but will not ask full name unless they are going to replace phone.
They will not do it just to unlock your bootloader. There needs to be a legitimate problem with the phone.
@smartymcfly: Google makes a copy of the device warranty available on their support pages. The Pixel 2 XL warranty reads, in part...
This Limited Warranty is only valid and enforceable in locations the Phone is sold and will apply only if you purchased your Phone from Google or its authorized resellers.
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The OP did not buy the phone from Google, Best Buy, Verizon, or any other authorized reseller and thus the warranty is null and void. The only value the IMEI has is determining the phone's date of manufacture. The warranty however starts on the date of purchase, which could be months later.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@smartymcfly: Google makes a copy of the device warranty available on their support pages. The Pixel 2 XL warranty reads, in part...
The OP did not buy the phone from Google, Best Buy, Verizon, or any other authorized reseller and thus the warranty is null and void. The only value the IMEI has is determining the phone's date of manufacture. The warranty however starts on the date of purchase, which could be months later.
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This is not true because many phones are purchased by one person and given or purchased by another. I know this because I purchased a phone for my sister with my credit card and then she paid me for it, so she bought it from me and she had to send it in for an RMA.
When you call google they want imei number. That is what detirmines if a phone is under warranty or not. Google uses imei to verify the phones end of warranty date.
Think about the process if younhave ever RMAd a device that was google nexus or pixel. They want the imei number and then only ask for your full name when they ask for a mailing address.
While what you say is true, the truth is not always black and white.
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While what you say is true, the truth is not always black and white.
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In your case you bought direct from Google and gave the device as a gift, even if you did get paid back, which is why the warranty still applied to your phone. The OP bought his secondhand, off Craigslist. The moment money exchanged hands the warranty became null and void. The OP pointed out the warranty did not transfer over in his opening post. He therefore must have contacted Google, who then told him the warranty was invalid.
Google being liberal with the warranty does not invalidate its existence. We are all bound by its terms and conditions.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
In your case you bought direct from Google and gave the device as a gift, even if you did get paid back, which is why the warranty still applied to your phone. The OP bought his secondhand, off Craigslist. The moment money exchanged hands the warranty became null and void. The OP pointed out the warranty did not transfer over in his opening post. He therefore must have contacted Google, who then told him the warranty was invalid.
Google being liberal with the warranty does not invalidate its existence. We are all bound by its terms and conditions.
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Which means whoever the seller on Craigslist was probably wasn't the orinal owner with original receipt of sale. Or more than likely the imei isn't clear
That may be, but we simply don't know for sure. All we do know is that the OP's warranty is void. The warranty for the phone itself specifies that the warranty only applies if purchased from Google or one of its authorized resellers, e.g. Best Buy, Verizon, or Amazon. Since Craigslist is not an authorized reseller, the warranty is void, period.
On a side note, if you head to Google's support pages and start the process of a RMA, they require an order number. This is to ensure that the phone was purchased from Google or an authorized reseller. So is Google being nice and not verifying the phone was even purchased before authorizing the RMA, or are people simply omitting the fact the order number is required when mentioning that they received a RMA?
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
That may be, but we simply don't know for sure. All we do know is that the OP's warranty is void. The warranty for the phone itself specifies that the warranty only applies if purchased from Google or one of its authorized resellers, e.g. Best Buy, Verizon, or Amazon. Since Craigslist is not an authorized reseller, the warranty is void, period.
On a side note, if you head to Google's support pages and start the process of a RMA, they require an order number. This is to ensure that the phone was purchased from Google or an authorized reseller. So is Google being nice and not verifying the phone was even purchased before authorizing the RMA, or are people simply omitting the fact the order number is required when mentioning that they received a RMA?
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Craigslist isn't a seller... As much as it sells stuff... If OP had got a receipt and signed into there name..legally the device is owned by them. But because they didnt. It's not even technically there's as no receipt was made or anything. If they wanted to they could report the device as stolen and there would be nothing you could do about it.
Which leads back to my life lesson about Craigslist in my first post in this thread.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
That may be, but we simply don't know for sure. All we do know is that the OP's warranty is void. The warranty for the phone itself specifies that the warranty only applies if purchased from Google or one of its authorized resellers, e.g. Best Buy, Verizon, or Amazon. Since Craigslist is not an authorized reseller, the warranty is void, period.
On a side note, if you head to Google's support pages and start the process of a RMA, they require an order number. This is to ensure that the phone was purchased from Google or an authorized reseller. So is Google being nice and not verifying the phone was even purchased before authorizing the RMA, or are people simply omitting the fact the order number is required when mentioning that they received a RMA?
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I got my P2XL from eBay... When i called Google about the AA issue, i even told them i got it from eBay, even emailed them the purchase receipt...
They still were going to RMA my phone and told me the warranty was still good. So I'm not totally sure if the see an eBay seller as an authorized dealer, but they surely treated it as such