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Is my phone rootable?

I am running 4.2.2 with amf3. Is this rootable yet? Sorry for the dumb question. Haven't been on in a while

gwell1 said:
I am running 4.2.2 with amf3. Is this rootable yet? Sorry for the dumb question. Haven't been on in a while
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Yep look in the general section.
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It's rootable but you won't be able to flash ROMS, yet.
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r8revealed said:
It's rootable but you won't be able to flash ROMS, yet.
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n00b here...
Then what is the point of rooting?
I want to get 4.3. :crying:

You will be able to install root access apps and certain mods. I personally don't find if useful at the moment, so I'll be waiting for a bootloader unlock. (Which is what is actually needed for flashing ROMS).
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r8revealed said:
You will be able to install root access apps and certain mods. I personally don't find if useful at the moment, so I'll be waiting for a bootloader unlock. (Which is what is actually needed for flashing ROMS).
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That was my thought too.

John D'oh said:
n00b here...
Then what is the point of rooting?
I want to get 4.3. :crying:
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With Root (and a locked bootloader) you can do TONS of stuff.
- Install and use TiBu
- Change framework for unlocking many neat customizations
- Remove/disable bloatware
- Allow for wifi tethering
- Disable ads
- Change startup/shutdown/system sounds
- Change bootup animations
- etc..
Just because you have a locked bootloader does not mean you have no use for root.

John D'oh said:
n00b here...
Then what is the point of rooting?
I want to get 4.3. :crying:
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You can install the Xposed Framework and add a multitude of various mods to your setup. I used it when waiting for the original boot loader work around. Its quite nice actually. The amount of options have only expanded since that time. Check it out.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285074
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Mike said:
You can install the Xposed Framework and add a multitude of various mods to your setup. I used it when waiting for the original boot loader work around. Its quite nice actually. The amount of options have only expanded since that time. Check it out.
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Thanks!
BTW, is there a way to get this phone to check for updates from G instead of ATT so we can get 4.3 that way?

John D'oh said:
Thanks!
BTW, is there a way to get this phone to check for updates from G instead of ATT so we can get 4.3 that way?
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No

joeybear23 said:
With Root (and a locked bootloader) you can do TONS of stuff.
- Install and use TiBu
- Change framework for unlocking many neat customizations
- Remove/disable bloatware
- Allow for wifi tethering
- Disable ads
- Change startup/shutdown/system sounds
- Change bootup animations
- etc..
Just because you have a locked bootloader does not mean you have no use for root.
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But every time I boot up my phone it has an unlocked logo under the word Samsung. Why is that ?
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vividblu2020 said:
But every time I boot up my phone it has an unlocked logo under the word Samsung. Why is that ?
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Use the search function and search the forums for "sysscope" or "custom" or visually search for threads that have that subject in the title. You should find tons of information about it within the first page or two of the "general" and "Q&A" sub forums.

vividblu2020 said:
But every time I boot up my phone it has an unlocked logo under the word Samsung. Why is that ? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium
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There are several threads about it here on XDA. It's the Samsung screen notice that you've changed their OS. Sort of like the old triangle on the S2 when you trip the rom-flash counter.
I was able to eliminate the unlocked lock symbol using Chainfire's Triangle away (might be on XDA, but I bought it on Play).
Read the caveats and decide if you want to use it. . . worked for me on my i337 running SHOstock2.1!
Good Luck!

joeybear23 said:
With Root (and a locked bootloader) you can do TONS of stuff.
- Install and use TiBu
- Change framework for unlocking many neat customizations
- Remove/disable bloatware
- Allow for wifi tethering
- Disable ads
- Change startup/shutdown/system sounds
- Change bootup animations
- etc..
Just because you have a locked bootloader does not mean you have no use for root.
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Perfect answer.
People around me always ask for root their phone for non of above

markbc01 said:
There are several threads about it here on XDA. It's the Samsung screen notice that you've changed their OS. Sort of like the old triangle on the S2 when you trip the rom-flash counter.
I was able to eliminate the unlocked lock symbol using Chainfire's Triangle away (might be on XDA, but I bought it on Play).
Read the caveats and decide if you want to use it. . . worked for me on my i337 running SHOstock2.1!
Good Luck!
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So are you saying since I did this I may be able to flash something?
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vividblu2020 said:
So are you saying since I did this I may be able to flash something?
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If you are on mf3 you can't flash anything...you have no custom recovery as there is no way to get a custom recovery for mf3 at the moment
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vividblu2020 said:
So are you saying since I did this I may be able to flash something?
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The answer is "yes," UNLESS your stock rom is version is MF3, in which case the answer is "NO...for now," as mg2195 just mentioned and explained in the preceding post. . .

markbc01 said:
The answer is "yes," UNLESS your stock rom is version is MF3, in which case the answer is "NO...for now," as mg2195 just mentioned and explained in the preceding post. . .
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That sucks. Well hopefully the developers will be able to figure out a way
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mg2195 said:
If you are on mf3 you can't flash anything...you have no custom recovery as there is no way to get a custom recovery for mf3 at the moment
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There's a post in the general section talking about flashing carrier Roms. So if I rooted and say installed a twrp using ROM toolbox to flash these Roms, including "loki'd" and my carrier kernel wouldn't that work ?
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vividblu2020 said:
There's a post in the general section talking about flashing carrier Roms. So if I rooted and say installed a twrp using ROM toolbox to flash these Roms, including "loki'd" and my carrier kernel wouldn't that work ?
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If you're on the mf3 firmware you can't install twrp. And don't try as you will probably brick your phone. Do you know what firmware you're on?

Bootloader status

Is there any word on whether or not the bootloader is encrypted? If so does anyone have any idea on what the chances of it being unlocked is, as this is the only thing stopping me from buying this phone.
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I suspect we will end up with loki. At least i hope so.
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I'm ready for the complete package so I can start flashing
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bri315317 said:
I suspect we will end up with loki. At least i hope so.
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I'm unfamiliar with loki, what is that?
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soapinmouth said:
I'm unfamiliar with loki, what is that?
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Basically it is an exploit to bypass the bootloader to flash roms and kernels. DJRBLISS found it for the S4 and it is working with the G pro. Read more about it here
Other options would be Hash's safety strap or if they can figure out flash gordon for roms. But I still hope for a full unlock sometime...

Is there a way to check if the bootloader is locked? I'm getting a T-mobile version and am curious if they have it locked as well.

bri315317 said:
I suspect we will end up with loki. At least i hope so.
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Loki is old. Most manufactures stopped using as soon as Dan Bliss posted how he exploited it.
I am fairly confident this is not going to be Loki. I hope I am wrong but...
Its easy to test if you are rooted.
Pull a system dump, mod the boot.img (Decompile it, maybe just put a simple line in the default.prop then recompile), then run it through loki. After loki just DD it back in place.
If you phone boots then its loki! And I run to AT&T to buy one no questions asked...
If your phone doesnt boot... you bricked it but did so for a noble cause! And for that I would salute you!
All of the above is true and accurate... But with a grain of angry sarcasm... Im pretty sure this is not going to be Loki. If so it would have recovery and ROMS by now.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Basically it is an exploit to bypass the bootloader to flash roms and kernels. DJRBLISS found it for the S4 and it is working with the G pro. Read more about it here
Other options would be Hash's safety strap or if they can figure out flash gordon for roms. But I still hope for a full unlock sometime...
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You mean WAS working with the S4...
Samsung changed the method 100% and no longer works with ANY Samsung device that is up to date.
Sorry guys, not trying to be a downer... I really want this phone... Very angry with the games carriers play.

scrosler said:
Loki is old. Most manufactures stopped using as soon as Dan Bliss posted how he exploited it.
I am fairly confident this is not going to be Loki. I hope I am wrong but...
Its easy to test if you are rooted.
Pull a system dump, mod the boot.img (Decompile it, maybe just put a simple line in the default.prop then recompile), then run it through loki. After loki just DD it back in place.
If you phone boots then its loki! And I run to AT&T to buy one no questions asked...
If your phone doesnt boot... you bricked it but did so for a noble cause! And for that I would salute you!
All of the above is true and accurate... But with a grain of angry sarcasm... Im pretty sure this is not going to be Loki. If so it would have recovery and ROMS by now.
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I think it's aboot.img that gets modded for Loki on this phone.
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djkinetic said:
I think it's aboot.img that gets modded for Loki on this phone.
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No, thats not correct.
When the system boots, it looks at aboot and verifies its signed. Then from there, it verifies that boot.img is signed, then on...
aboot is just first in the chain, and if hacked appropriately, would eliminate the need for any and all loki methods...
However, hacking the aboot is not something I recommend anyone trying to do... Unless of course they have done it before...
Didint you just brick your phone because of a hack attempt at aboot?

scrosler said:
No, thats not correct.
When the system boots, it looks at aboot and verifies its signed. Then from there, it verifies that boot.img is signed, then on...
aboot is just first in the chain, and if hacked appropriately, would eliminate the need for any and all loki methods...
However, hacking the aboot is not something I recomend anyone trying to do...
Didint you just brick your phone because of a hack attempt at aboot?
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Ah ic
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scrosler said:
No, thats not correct.
When the system boots, it looks at aboot and verifies its signed. Then from there, it verifies that boot.img is signed, then on...
aboot is just first in the chain, and if hacked appropriately, would eliminate the need for any and all loki methods...
However, hacking the aboot is not something I recommend anyone trying to do... Unless of course they have done it before...
Didint you just brick your phone because of a hack attempt at aboot?
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Yup the devs on irc have me testing various aboots
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djkinetic said:
Ah ic
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Trust me man, I played this game on Samsung... Then quit it and went back to HTC.
With Samsung they dropped the loki method of kernels. So now, they have yet to have an unlocked bootloader...
I can only SUSPECT this phone is using the same method the Samsungs are now using...
Otherwise we would have lokied the ***** and we would all be crack flashing :highfive: :angel:

djkinetic said:
Yup the devs on irc have me testing various aboots
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Yeah, they are going one route to unlock... Which would be the most optimal, yet most risky...
Although on other Samsung devices they closed this loop hold...
Unless someone has an aboot that has been leaked by LG for the device that does not have the checks involved this may prove as impossible as it does for the Samsung devices..
I hope I am wrong...

scrosler said:
Yeah, they are going one route to unlock... Which would be the most optimal, yet most risky...
Although on other Samsung devices they closed this loop hold...
Unless someone has an aboot that has been leaked by LG for the device that does not have the checks involved this may prove as impossible as it does for the Samsung devices..
I hope I am wrong...
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Yeah... swapping for an HTC One is looking better and better as time goes on. I know it's only been a few days since launch, FYI.

DeaconBoogie said:
Yeah... swapping for an HTC One is looking better and better as time goes on. I know it's only been a few days since launch, FYI.
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Sad isnt it?
I will only be buying international phones going forward.
No more carrier subsidies for me :good:

scrosler said:
Sad isnt it?
I will only be buying international phones going forward.
No more carrier subsidies for me :good:
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My problem is that VZW is the only LTE carrier in my area that doesn't completely suck. Their coverage is just too good...

DeaconBoogie said:
My problem is that VZW is the only LTE carrier in my area that doesn't completely suck. Their coverage is just too good...
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Yeah, AT&T Finally got LTE turned on a couple weeks ago.
I said, If I have to I will go back to Sprint 2G to have an unlocked phone.
And if you buy Int phones you cant run them on Verizon.
THEY rule they air

scrosler said:
Yeah, they are going one route to unlock... Which would be the most optimal, yet most risky...
Although on other Samsung devices they closed this loop hold...
Unless someone has an aboot that has been leaked by LG for the device that does not have the checks involved this may prove as impossible as it does for the Samsung devices..
I hope I am wrong...
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Yea hope so too, but its a shame that its locked down, the device itself is awesome, Sadly ill prolly get a nexus 5 for my crack flash addiction lol

scrosler said:
Yeah, AT&T Finally got LTE turned on a couple weeks ago.
I said, If I have to I will go back to Sprint 2G to have an unlocked phone.
And if you buy Int phones you cant run them on Verizon.
THEY rule they air
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Think we'll have a definitive answer in a week as to the prospects of unlocking?

DeaconBoogie said:
Think we'll have a definitive answer in a week as to the prospects of unlocking?
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Once again... On pure speculation...
Impossible to know!
I just know the S4 has been re-locked for a couple months and no one has made any posted progress. I am "assuming" this phone uses the same method as Samsung. LG has always tended to play "follow Samsung."
So with that said... I would be watching the S4 forums for an answer...

Cyanogen mod/aokp??

Anyone know of any word on these two roms making a appearance here soon?
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There's like 8 of these threads already but long story short, no.
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akellar said:
There's like 8 of these threads already but long story short, no.
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Link me to the long story please
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Jeremiah_1988 said:
Link me to the long story please
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Here's your long story short:
Until we get the bootloader unlocked, NONE of those ROMs will make it to this phone. Period.

carlz28 said:
Here's your long story short:
Until we get the bootloader unlocked, NONE of those ROMs will make it to this phone. Period.
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Why do people keep saying this? I came from Droid Razr MAXX, locked bootloader. and officially supported by CM and AOKP.
If you dont believe me go here and select Razr Maxx and see. This is CM official download site. Not trying to argue, just sayin'. Dont be so sure we will not see that type of development.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title=Devices#vendor=;

willjohnson said:
Why do people keep saying this? I came from Droid Razr MAXX, locked bootloader. and officially supported by CM and AOKP.
If you dont believe me go here and select Razr Maxx and see. This is CM official download site. Not trying to argue, just sayin'. Dont be so sure we will not see that type of development.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title=Devices#vendor=;
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Kind of what I thought, just going to try and wait patiently for more development
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Again, they all use kexec or loki and neither will work on this device. Please read the other threads about this. They are all the same.
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akellar said:
Again, they all use kexec or loki and neither will work on this device. Please read the other threads about this. They are all the same.
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This.
Safestrap (at least at the moment) doesn't support kexec or Loki for this device, which is the way those other devices manage to run custom kernels. Not saying its impossible, but likely improbable.

carlz28 said:
This.
Safestrap (at least at the moment) doesn't support kexec or Loki for this device, which is the way those other devices manage to run custom kernels. Not saying its impossible, but likely improbable.
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All i was saying, is that our device is way to new to be saying what it will or wont have development on in the future. Thats just my opinion.

i have an unlocked developer edition where is my cm/aosp then haha

oneandroidnut said:
i have an unlocked developer edition where is my cm/aosp then haha
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Apparently there are a lot of problems getting it working on this device. If you will notice, none of the note 3's have it, not even the international. I think part of it is knox, part of it is the bootloader, part of it is the hardware on the device. Samsung went above and beyond to keep this phone running their system.

shiftr182 said:
Apparently there are a lot of problems getting it working on this device. If you will notice, none of the note 3's have it, not even the international. I think part of it is knox, part of it is the bootloader, part of it is the hardware on the device. Samsung went above and beyond to keep this phone running their system.
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i dont know what the issue could be. tmobile and dev editions are unlocked bootloaders and you dont have to run knox so idk unless knox is baked in somewhere where you cant get around it

oneandroidnut said:
i dont know what the issue could be. tmobile and dev editions are unlocked bootloaders and you dont have to run knox so idk unless knox is baked in somewhere where you cant get around it
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Unlocked does not equal aosp, at least functioning. Ril is likely an issue.
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Sbrissen said he'd make it happen if he were to obtain a device...... Dev Edition....

TechSavvy2 said:
Sbrissen said he'd make it happen if he were to obtain a device...... Dev Edition....
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i have a friends bricked note 3 he can get haha

Geohot creates root method that does not trip knox!!!!

Found this thread regarding Geohot's new root method for the ATT and Verizon S5 variants and can confirm that it works with our phone. Link below to thread titled " I'm throwing a party and you should come **GS5 ROOT THREAD**" by Geohot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
This method did not trip Knox, which is still at 0x0! Not sure if flashing a custom rom or recovery will though.

Too bad I joined the 0x1 bandwagon haha.

omgpk said:
Too bad I joined the 0x1 bandwagon haha.
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+1 No way I would wait that long.
Gotta stay crack flashing lol
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It's been a long time since I've played with custom stuff. I rooted my Evo LTE 2 years ago, and haven't been able to afford a new device since.
I'm liking the "stock" experience as I no longer like dealing with bugs. When I get my GS5 tomorrow, can I root and then just use root things like Titanium without bothering to install a custom ROM? I'm sure the answer is yes, but I've never left a phone "stock rooted" before so I'm not sure.

detox702 said:
It's been a long time since I've played with custom stuff. I rooted my Evo LTE 2 years ago, and haven't been able to afford a new device since.
I'm liking the "stock" experience as I no longer like dealing with bugs. When I get my GS5 tomorrow, can I root and then just use root things like Titanium without bothering to install a custom ROM? I'm sure the answer is yes, but I've never left a phone "stock rooted" before so I'm not sure.
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Yep, long as SU is installed on your system, you can do what we're you'd like, even on a stock rom. You can also use the Xposed engine for certain mods, if you don't want a custom.
Jsut depends if the if the modules that you pick work or not.
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yglup said:
Found this thread regarding Geohot's new root method for the ATT and Verizon S5 variants and can confirm that it works with our phone. Link below to thread titled " I'm throwing a party and you should come **GS5 ROOT THREAD**" by Geohot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
This method did not trip Knox, which is still at 0x0! Not sure if flashing a custom rom or recovery will though.
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Wrong section to post this in... Geohot is a beast though
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popimpg said:
Wrong section to post this in... Geohot is a beast though
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You're right, wrong section. If possible, Mods please move to correct section.
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Flashing a custom recovery/kernel/ROM will trip Knox so IMO it doesn't matter about that. Plus the fact I tripped Knox on the first day!

It Works on non rooted Sprint S5

I love this guy! Geohot always goes the extra mile with his exploits. 1 click and done. No PC necessary. I've used this on several previously "unrootable" ATT phones. Freaking awesome!!!

Is the the great man from the ps3 scene?

All we need now is Wifi Calling and the phone is perfect with Knox at 0x0

That and decent signal strength! I have been waiting for a non knox trip root because I so want to return this POS to sprint. Now with root I may keep it!!!

texasredrider said:
That and decent signal strength! I have been waiting for a non knox trip root because I so want to return this POS to sprint. Now with root I may keep it!!!
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Sounds like you should just return it
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Used towelroot method on my friend's S4, which was on a locked down 4.4.2, to see how it worked. Simple install of two apks and you're rooted with SuperSU; couldn't be any simpler. Kudos to that guy.
Not the only way to root the Verizon S4, but by far the simplest.

Now if we could find a way to de-knox without tripping it in the first place.

Shiftlock said:
Now if we could find a way to de-knox without tripping it in the first place.
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I hear that bro!
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SHYZZA said:
Is the the great man from the ps3 scene?
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Yup and first Iphone JB! This kid is truly a genius!! 4 real.
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Where is the link for the files? Been looking around for the last half hour and can't locate them
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BubZX said:
Where is the link for the files? Been looking around for the last half hour and can't locate them
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Just go to towelroot.com and follow the instructions. Basically click the lambda symbol, install the app, run the app.

ALL THINGS ROOT, BOOTLOADER, ETC

Good day all,
I noticed several cluttered threads in Q&A that are becoming more of a discussion than question and answer format.
I wanted to make this thread as a one stop shop for all things Root and Bootloader related for the G-930T (Tmobile Galaxy Note 7).
Please discuss root, bootloader and work with each other in here.
Please do not discuss the bounty in here, and do not clutter the bounty thread with casual conversation about root.
Cheers,
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Well we know the Bootloader is locked and can only be unlocked by Samsung( That's not gonna happen).
Based on what happened and is continuing to happen with the S7 there is a possibility of achieving Root on the N7(ENG) which I will not be a guinea pig and try. I'm sure others will if and when it's available.

SBERG117 said:
Well we know the Bootloader is locked and can only be unlocked by Samsung( That's not gonna happen).
Based on what happened and is continuing to happen with the S7 there is a possibility of achieving Root on the N7(ENG) which I will not be a guinea pig and try. I'm sure others will if and when it's available.
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I second this. Just wish we could keep samsung pay after root. Not gonna happen but wishful thinking.
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Just want to note that you may not want to take any updates if you plan on rooting in the future (if an exploit is available).

dirtymindedx said:
I second this. Just wish we could keep samsung pay after root. Not gonna happen but wishful thinking.
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Not true on my Nexus 6 we could not use Android pay with root. But someone came up with a walk around systemless root and it worked.
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jason504 said:
Not true on my Nexus 6 we could not use Android pay with root. But someone came up with a walk around systemless root and it worked.
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he said Samsung pay...two separate paying system

Chord_Hugo87 said:
he said Samsung pay...two separate paying system
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No I know what he said but if there can be a walk around for one (should) be able to do one for the other.
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jason504 said:
No I know what he said but if there can be a walk around for one (should) be able to do one for the other.
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not possible if you trip knox and in order to get root you need to trip knox.

jason504 said:
No I know what he said but if there can be a walk around for one (should) be able to do one for the other.
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One of them is from Google and doesn't care about Knoxx and the other is from Samsung and does care about Knoxx. Two completely different things. The Samsung Pay not working after Knoxx is tripped has been going on for a year as of tomorrow. The systemless root that doesn't trip Knoxx is one thing but as soon as you start flashing, kiss Samsung Pay goodbye.

Yep, and worst of all. Once it's tripped, Samsung pay will never work again on that device
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Luckily for me, if root becomes available its a no-brainer. Samsung pay doesn't support my bank, and I won't have a credit card. Even if Samsung Pay would work for me, it would still be an easy choice to have root instead. I would like to play around with altering the speaker volume, deleting bloatware, making tweaks, ad blocking, etc.

Did anyone ever get the files that Beans asked for over to him?

Why can't those of us with t variants just flash the unlocked w8 bootloader? Seems like we've been left an out? Yes?
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Rx8Driver said:
Why can't those of us with t variants just flash the unlocked w8 bootloader? Seems like we've been left an out? Yes?
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In order for you to flash anything to any bootloader, it needs to be unlocked. With it locked Odin says it can't. So till the note 7 gets unlocked (in time) we have to wait. Phone only few days old, be work around soon.

drum747 said:
Did anyone ever get the files that Beans asked for over to him?
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Good question
@BeansTown106 did you ever get a Tar?
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It appears this guy is in the process of getting the stock firmware uploaded
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3444003
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ethanscooter said:
Just want to note that you may not want to take any updates if you plan on rooting in the future (if an exploit is available).
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That is true. Android 7 Nougat will have more security features that Samsung is going to take advantage of with the Galaxy Note 7. That may make unlocking bootloader and rooting even more difficult.
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It looks like the sprint guys have obtained an engineering bootloader/kernel. Someone may be able to do something with this for us..
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I got the stock n930t boot.img but im wondering is how would i go by making a kernel "engboot". I also removed dm-verity but that didn't work. All i get is a failed message through odin. Another testing i have done is I even just modified one simple thing in the stock kernel say in default.prop ro.secure=1 to =0 and i still get a failed messsge. Once i flashed the stock unmodified version of the kernel i would get a success message and works which means any modification to the kernel will cause it to fail i just have to see what in the kernel checks for md5 changes or it may be something else if more devs can help together, then we can get this working.

jovy23 said:
I got the stock n930t boot.img but im wondering is how would i go by making a kernel "engboot". I also removed dm-verity but that didn't work. All i get is a failed message through odin. Another testing i have done is I even just modified one simple thing in the stock kernel say in default.prop ro.secure=1 to =0 and i still get a failed messsge. Once i flashed the stock unmodified version of the kernel i would get a success message and works which means any modification to the kernel will cause it to fail i just have to see what in the kernel checks for md5 changes or it may be something else if more devs can help together, then we can get this working.
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Bro, please stop trying. This is obviously far above your skill level.
1. There is no way to convert a kernel to an "engboot."
2. The bootloader is LOCKED, so anything you do to the kernel's ramdisk will obviously not work because the whole point of dm-verity and a locked bootloader, among other things, is to stop the modification of system images, including the kernel ramdisk. Surely you didn't think it would be as easy as unpacking the boot.img, changing the ro.secure value from 1 to 0, then repacking..... did you?
3. The kernel doesn't "check" for anything MD5 related.
4. The bootloader is rejecting your changes, not the kernel.
5. Nothing you do to the boot.img, no matter how many devs you have, will do any good.
Hang tight, guys. We're trying everything we can.