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[Q] S4 SGH-I337 or SGH-I337m? AT&T or Rogers?

Sorry moderators, put this in the wrong section last time! Feel free to delete previous post!
I spend 50% of my time in the US and 50% of my time in Canada and have a contract with both AT&T and with Rogers.
I am going to buy the S4 soon. Should I get the SGH-I337 variant with AT&T or the SGH-I337m variant with Rogers?
In about 14 months, I will be back in Canada (on Rogers) permanently. So far, I am leaning towards the AT&T variant due to greater rom availability, but I am worried about whether the S4 will work on Rogers 3G bands and LTE network.
The reason I am worried is that I am currently using an unlocked Sprint BB Tour 9630 Quadband on Rogers with specs:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 2100
CDMA/EVDO Rev A 800/1900
And the Roger's EDGE network barely functions on that phone (many disconnects).
I am a little unfamiliar with network bands, but can you let me know if the phone's 3G radio and LTE radio are identical across Rogers and AT&T?
I read somewhere that Rogers S4 uses 2600 MHz LTE Band and AT&T uses 700 MHz LTE. Is this true? Or does this phone have both LTE bands built in?
Thank you!

After a quick search, I believe both phones should have identical network capabilities.
So you should be able to get LTE and 4G access on either of the networks using either of the phone variants.
The 'M' after the model number is definitely a Canadian carrier thing and it makes no difference. I have a Galaxy S2 from Virgin/Bell which was sold in Canada as GT-i9100M but it was identical to the international GT-i9100. So much so, that I was able to flash the ROM for the international GT-i9100 on my phone without any modifications or complications.
Hope it helps! Or a more senior member can chime in and correct me!

i would recommend going with the rogers i337m. the only reason that there is more roms for at&t version is that there is a stronger demand for them. but any roms meant for i337 will also work on i337m.

Buddyjohn said:
i would recommend going with the rogers i337m. the only reason that there is more roms for at&t version is that there is a stronger demand for them. but any roms meant for i337 will also work on i337m.
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Why would you choose the Rogers version?

if you were thinking about getting the s4 soon i would go with att variant like you said because of the rom availability, but if you were going to wait, let say a few weeks to a month i would just get the i337m because samsung will probably push another update to ruin djrbliss work to unlock the bootloader. just keep checking back to see if any update gets pushed through and youll be good

vRoman Godv said:
if you were thinking about getting the s4 soon i would go with att variant like you said because of the rom availability, but if you were going to wait, let say a few weeks to a month i would just get the i337m because samsung will probably push another update to ruin djrbliss work to unlock the bootloader. just keep checking back to see if any update gets pushed through and youll be good
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Ah, the Rogers bootloader is unlocked, but AT&T is locked, correct?

golden_35 said:
Why would you choose the Rogers version?
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Unlocked boot loader.
Sent from my SGH-I337M using xda app-developers app

Hmmmmm. Thank you all! I may just end up getting the 32gb model from AT&T, since I know the AT&T model has the same radio bands built in for 3G and LTE. I'll just hope for an unlocked bootloader!

golden_35 said:
Hmmmmm. Thank you all! I may just end up getting the 32gb model from AT&T, since I know the AT&T model has the same radio bands built in for 3G and LTE. I'll just hope for an unlocked bootloader!
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AT&T has a locked bootloader, but you can get it in 32GB. However there are works underway to get around the locks.
Rogers has an unlocked bootloader but only comes in 16GB. Unfortunately there are no ways that I know of to get around the lack of internal space and JB does not let you install apps on external SDcards.

Perfect. I'm going to trade my Blackberry Q10 for the AT&T S4 32gb.
Thanks!

[Q] Lost Phone, Can I use Sprint LG G2 On verizon?

I had a little too much fun on new years eve .. I set my Verizon LG G2 down on a table and apparently either I left it or it was stolen .. I probably left it hahaha..
Now i'm trying to get another one .. I really loved the phone...
I'm scouring eBay ..
I'm in a 2 year contract with verizon ..... but, I wanted to know ... Can I use a Sprint based LG G2 on the verizon network ? Will I still get verizon LTE ?
Same thing with T-mobile versions ? Can I get all the bands and function I did out of my verizon LG G2 ?
Thanks for the heads up guys.

I know that the Verizon one can use Sprint, but I am not sure about the other war around. I think the global one works on Verizon's LTE band, although I am not sure an that either. If you can afford it, get the Verizon model (VS980) off contract. You can check the bands and other specs on phone arena.
The T-Mobile one seems to share frequencies of Verizon's though.
Hope I helped.

Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers and run on compatible CDMA frequencies and technologies (1xRTT, EvDO) and both their branded phones can roam on/off each other's network for both voice and data.
Having said that, the fact that they're primarily CDMA carriers means that you cannot just bring a phone onto their respective networks. The ESN/MEID of the phone has to already be in their database for them to activate.
So, taking a Sprint LG G2 and walking into a Verizon store or calling Verizon to activate it will get you a big fat NO, and vice versa.
Is it technically possible? Of course.
Worth the effort/hassle? No.
T-Mobile is a GSM carrier, no CDMA, so that's out of the question, same with AT&T, or any GSM variant of the G2.
Get a Verizon LG G2. Just keep looking carefully and you'll find a good deal.
I got my Sprint LG G2 mint in box for 325, clean ESN, no funny business. Love it to bits.

You can use Sprint LG G2 on Tmobile, takes about 20 minutes
LordLugard said:
Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers and run on compatible CDMA frequencies and technologies (1xRTT, EvDO) and both their branded phones can roam on/off each other's network for both voice and data.
Having said that, the fact that they're primarily CDMA carriers means that you cannot just bring a phone onto their respective networks. The ESN/MEID of the phone has to already be in their database for them to activate.
So, taking a Sprint LG G2 and walking into a Verizon store or calling Verizon to activate it will get you a big fat NO, and vice versa.
Is it technically possible? Of course.
Worth the effort/hassle? No.
T-Mobile is a GSM carrier, no CDMA, so that's out of the question, same with AT&T, or any GSM variant of the G2.
Get a Verizon LG G2. Just keep looking carefully and you'll find a good deal.
I got my Sprint LG G2 mint in box for 325, clean ESN, no funny business. Love it to bits.
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In response to this assessment I have to correct these "facts"
You CAN use Tmobile's network on Sprint LG G2 Variant. See Younggunners forum on Sprint-Tmobile rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639165
I am currently getting 4G speeds at around 14 mb on the down and 4 on the up, very workable.
I can attest that it works; I have also performed the flash on other sprint LG G2 LS980 Variants as well.
I am using Justin's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639165&page=11,
It's an awesome stock experience!

twill1987 said:
In response to this assessment I have to correct these "facts"
You CAN use Tmobile's network on Sprint LG G2 Variant. See Younggunners forum on Sprint-Tmobile rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639165
I am currently getting 4G speeds at around 14 mb on the down and 4 on the up, very workable.
I can attest that it works; I have also performed the flash on other sprint LG G2 LS980 Variants as well.
I am using Justin's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639165&page=11,
It's an awesome stock experience!
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I think you missed what he was saying. He was saying that the T-Mobile and ATT variants do not support any CDMA so they will not work at all. The sprint variant supports Verizon CDMA but verizon will not activate a sprint device on their network. In any case the sprint device does not support Verizon LTE bands. Even if Verizon activated a sprint g2 on their network it would be 3G only.
Sent from my LG-VS980 using Tapatalk

Question regarding G2 and Bad Esn sprint one.

After reading stuff i figured that all G2's are world phones.
Im From india and my question is that if i get a G2 of ebay sprint one with a bad ESN, since it cant be activated on sprint again which is a given.
Now my question is can buy the phone and use it with a regular GSM sim card from india ?
If yes what would i need to do to use the phone if it has a Bad ESN.
Any kind of answer would be helpful thanks a ton

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I don't think a Sprint G2 would work in India, sorry. Sprint is a US carrier and uses CDMA instead of GSM. However, the international D802 model should work fine. The ESN is attached to the phone and not the carrier anyway, so no matter what carrier your on it won't activate.

The Sprint G2 is not factory unlocked for international GSM usage. It is an international capable device though (GSM 850/900/1800/1900). If the seller is not specifically stating that the phone has been unlocked for international use then it will not work in India. Only Sprint can unlock the phone and if your not the owner of the phone with an active line with Sprint they wont unlock it for you plain and simple. I would recommend to save your self a big hassle and buy the international G2 D802.

daCLOUD said:
The Sprint G2 is not factory unlocked for international GSM usage. It is an international capable device though (GSM 850/900/1800/1900). If the seller is not specifically stating that the phone has been unlocked for international use then it will not work in India. Only Sprint can unlock the phone and if your not the owner of the phone with an active line with Sprint they wont unlock it for you plain and simple. I would recommend to save your self a big hassle and buy the international G2 D802.
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Cool thanks a ton

berz said:
Cool thanks a ton
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No problem, I forgot to mention that the Verizon G2 is factory unlocked for GSM service. You could buy a BAD ESN Verizon G2 and put in your India GSM sim card and it would work with no unlocking necessary. I'm not sure what band you need for LTE, but HSPA+ should work.

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[Q] Which LG G2 variant will work with metropcs without any problems?

Hello guys, Newbie here, i'm currently looking to buy an LG G2 for my girlfriend and would like to know which variant has 4G LTE on metropcs, because i noticed that people have issues with unlocked ATT models, but the international version doesn't have the frequencies that metropcs works on, so any help? i noticed that the Verizon is the most likely and it also has Qi wireless charging, so any help please?

blebron said:
Hello guys, Newbie here, i'm currently looking to buy an LG G2 for my girlfriend and would like to know which variant has 4G LTE on metropcs, because i noticed that people have issues with unlocked ATT models, but the international version doesn't have the frequencies that metropcs works on, so any help? i noticed that the Verizon is the most likely and it also has Qi wireless charging, so any help please?
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Well MetroPCS has been gobbled up by T-Mobile, and they're shutting down their CDMA network and going all GSM (T-Mobile frequencies), so the T-Mobile version would be your best bet.

LG V20 Unlocked (US996) vs TMobile LG V20?

Hey Guys,
So I am seriously interested in this phone but cant decide what the difference is between these 2 variants?
It seems that TMobile LG V20 has no support for CDMA and support for AWS-3 spectrum (Band 66)
The unlocked version seems to support CDMA but I dont know if it has support for Band 66.
Source TMobile LG v20 : http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/lg-v20.html
LG v20 Unlocked: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1285961-REG/lg_lgus996_ausasv_lg_v20_4gb_ram.html
Can someone please shed some light on this? Will the unlocked version include all the bells and whistles of TMobile variant?
Thanks.

adit07 said:
Hey Guys,
So I am seriously interested in this phone but cant decide what the difference is between these 2 variants?
It seems that TMobile LG V20 has no support for CDMA and support for AWS-3 spectrum (Band 66)
The unlocked version seems to support CDMA but I dont know if it has support for Band 66.
Source TMobile LG v20 : http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/lg-v20.html
LG v20 Unlocked: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1285961-REG/lg_lgus996_ausasv_lg_v20_4gb_ram.html
Can someone please shed some light on this? Will the unlocked version include all the bells and whistles of TMobile variant?
Thanks.
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Has there been confirmation that the t-mobile variant is locked?

You'll have to look around but I thought it was confirmed the unlocked version B&H is selling is not Band 66 compliant.

CHH2 said:
You'll have to look around but I thought it was confirmed the unlocked version B&H is selling is not Band 66 compliant.
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Thanks! Do you have any link that confirms that?

US996 is USCC (US Cellular) version which does not have B4 HSPA.

I can confirm that, unfortunately, the T-Mobile LG V20 will not come with an unlockable bootloader. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this something I got straight from the top-level guys @ TMO.
Possible good news, see two post below.

What... "top level guys"? What's your connection? Hmmmm
Sent from my awesome T-Mobile LG V10!

@planetbeen That would be Mr. Lucero and Miss Viola, director's in their respective divisions.
Anyways... I might have some good news.
I was called this morning and included in a conversation between TMO and LG. LG is now saying the bootloader will not be "locked down". I tried asking about fastboot and they were being a bit shady and gave me a vague answer.
Take this how you will.

Well we now have a couple people who have received their v20.. Hopefully we'll know very soon!
Sent from my awesome T-Mobile LG V10!

Specs for the US996:
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US996-Unlocked-v20-titan
CDMA 1.9 GHz CDMA PCS/800 MHz CDMA; GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; LTE Bands 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25
EVDO, EVDO Rev A, 1xRTT, LTE, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+, HSPA

What is the bloatware situation on the T-Mobile vs unlocked? And can all of the bloat be deleted? (Especially any anti-virus software!)

Despite my phone will be arriving on monday, Let me ask you a question that might make you get your choice. do both of then offer great promotions? and which one has the frequencies more suitable to your needs?
I pre ordered the tmobile variant because im currently on tmobile. But that's not the only reason, i grabbed all the offers too and the phone ended up being $520 (+ 49.99 down payment + 53.90 of taxes) thanks to the $200 dollars when you trade-in a 4g phone (any phone that is 4g (preferably 4g lte), and also i get the free H3 earphones (i have to redeem it on LG website). And also, i get the opportunity of the free tablet (sure, at a cost of having to add an extra line but that is only 10 dollars more for 24 month and also is optional). In additon, Tmobile variant has unlocked bootloader, no other variant has reported that as far as i know.

How do you know it has an unlocked bootloader? I got mine yesterday. Is there any way we can check I recovery or something to see if it's locked?

Paradoxumical said:
I can confirm that, unfortunately, the T-Mobile LG V20 will not come with an unlockable bootloader. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this something I got straight from the top-level guys @ TMO.
Possible good news, see two post below.
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I take it you are the master of all that is holy?

thatisandwas said:
How do you know it has an unlocked bootloader? I got mine yesterday. Is there any way we can check I recovery or something to see if it's locked?
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because there was someone who already did it. it doesnt come unlocked, but it is unlockable , at least for the Tmobile version.
Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv20/comments/58568e/v20unlockable_bootloadervery_simplesame_as_g4g5/
also there are some posts around in XDA LG V20 section, the first 3 sub-sections. Right now @bountyman334 has tried several methods to root it however he hasnt hit the spot yet. But im sure there are also quite a few people who haven't spoken but are trying to root it. You will have to ask them how did the manage to do it, but at least we know that if we have the Tmobile variant, we have unlockable bootloader. :good::good:

Oh man that is awesome to hear! I was just saying the only thing that could make this phone the best in years would be if I could install custom roms like the old days!

thatisandwas said:
Oh man that is awesome to hear! I was just saying the only thing that could make this phone the best in years would be if I could install custom roms like the old days!
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But remember, unlocked bootloader doesnt mean you will get root and roms. (I will soon be an owner of the V20 tmobile variant so is not like i m not expecting for a rooting method and roms soon after) . On the other hand, we are closer than any other variants

ice5192 said:
I take it you are the master of all that is holy?
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Holy, light, pure, good and just.

No guarantee.....but......
joseguillen1994 said:
But remember, unlocked bootloader doesnt mean you will get root and roms. (I will soon be an owner of the V20 tmobile variant so is not like i m not expecting for a rooting method and roms soon after) . On the other hand, we are closer than any other variants
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I am hoping that with an unlocked Bootloader more devs will jump on-board; especially with Samsung no longer being dev friendly for US models. I am very pleased with the V20. I wasn't sure I would find something I was happy with to replace my TMobile Note 4. But so far this is an excellent choice.

FAUguy said:
Specs for the US996:
CDMA 1.9 GHz CDMA PCS/800 MHz CDMA; GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; LTE Bands 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25
EVDO, EVDO Rev A, 1xRTT, LTE, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+, HSPA
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This is the same as the unlocked LG G5. It won't work on Sprint. Why would any company make an unlocked cell phone that works on three of the four US carriers? Phones that work on Sprint can be used on RingPlus who offer free phone/data plans.
LG's unlocked phones are an abortion done with pliers.