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Buying MP3 from DINC. Can I...

There are apps like Amazon MP3 and other like Shazam if I purchase the MP3 on my Incredible is it copyrighted just to stay on my device/Incredible? I would like to copy the MP3 to my laptop as well as put it on my wife's ipod...
Pls no legal stuff I am not going to resale the MP3 I just want to add the song on other devices that I own...
So again what protection if any will be on those mp3 that I buy from Amazon or Shazam that would stop me from sharing it on my other devices/PC?
TIA

I do it the other way around. I purchase and store on my workstation using a network drive (share throughout the house) and then move what I want to the mobile devices.
I've got a lot more music on the network drive than I would ever put on the mobile.
I move most of the files one at a time as I want them using AndFTP (using SFTP to my server which is the network drive). If I need to move a lot of files, I just plug in and make the sdcard a usb drive.

From a legal point of view, you'd have to read the terms of use you agreed to when you installed/used the app. I've used the Amazon MP3 store on my PC and I don't think they say anything about only putting the files on one machine.
From a technical point of view, if it is a standard mp3 file then there is no DRM that ties it to a specific device.
In general, I think you're fine in putting the file on whatever device you want.

FYI, the money from downloads and CD sales goes to the record company. Your not hurting the artist. If you really want to support them, touring is where 70% of their money comes from. Think about it, they're paid before the record comes out. Just a little bit of info, take it how you want.

With the amazon app you can put the mp3 on to any other device you want to just like ripping it from an owned cd
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Google "Tunee music" (it's not on market) and forget about Amazon MP3

The final answer: Yes you can take the mp3s off the device. they are Mp3's. Totally. I did it today to test.

Fretless said:
The final answer: Yes you can take the mp3s off the device. they are Mp3's. Totally. I did it today to test.
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Where are they on my Incredible? What's the path to get to them?
Thanks.
EDIT: found it. Right on the SD card.

Acers Clear.fi software

Is this software preaty much busted for everyone? I have seen lots on net but not in these forums I am guessing not many people use it. well it loads and sees my n.a.s. device but wont files from it. or if it does load files will only load the picture files and not the movie or music.
Is anyone else having this problem with this software? If so go to market download upnplay as your client and mobo player as your media player unless you have updated to 3.1 then mobo player has stopped working with acers on 3.1 you will have to use rock player.
but with upnplay and rock payer the iconia is a strong wireless media server I stream movies from mu n.a.s. over wifi and plays perfect great for watching movies in bed. just wish acers software would work.
why is it all stock software is junk?
oh side note something very cool you can do with the iconia is use it as a n.a.s. media server I have one of the new samsung wifi enabled stero recivers and it picks up the iconia as a n.a.s device(once you enable it in the menu) so anything i have stored on the iconia will play right through the reciever wirelessly. is great i loaded the iconia up with music and then i can just leave it lay around anywhere and play all the music off it through the home stero with no wires. same with movies or pictures. I love tech

I have not gotten Clear.fi to see any of my DLNA servers, so yeah, I'd say it's more-or-less complete trash. Then again, I find the whole DLNA thing very, very limited and useless anyways.

Works absolutely fine here. What are you using for your DLNA server? I use Windows Media Player on Windows 7 and that works great.

Works for me but I have kid installed only windows machine that has the share maps.I also use this machine with my web hosting account.and can access the shared drives and info anywhere I can get net or my LAN/wifi. Linked to the latest media player updates and let it auto scan for all your media is the trick
But yes Acer clear fi is really useless
Wrong forum but Netflix rocked even tethered to my cheap zip cell phone on cricket carier

FloatingFatMan said:
Works absolutely fine here. What are you using for your DLNA server? I use Windows Media Player on Windows 7 and that works great.
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Mediatomb. Acer.fi doesn't even see the damn thing.

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Mediatomb. Acer.fi doesn't even see the damn thing.
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Well, I know it works fine with WMP and Windows 7, so it's probably an issue either with Mediatomb, or your OS not liking Clear.fi.

Ya works here as well.
Launch Clear.fi - start WMP, navigate to a500 and everything on the tab is accessible. Music, video, pictures... (depending on how you set it up of course)
You can also r-click a file, select properties, get the address to that file (IP+PORT+FILENAME) and open it in your browser.

Thank you all for the kind feedback. But, I think you over looked one point to my question and that is that i cant get clear.fi to see media over wireless on a n.a.s. (network attached storage device). It sees the media server (linksys router) and the attached mass storage device. It will also see all the picture files on the storage unit but if you try to open video or music it syas the device is disconected?
No other device on my network has any problems seeing the hard drive attached to the routers media server except the acer CLEAR.fi software.
But like I said before other clients like upnplay see and play the media files just fine on the acer. so must be the clear.fi software.
IM not using a comp as the server like the other replys IM useing a wireledd networ attached storage device and clear.fi is suppose to be able to work with wireless servers. It sees it but wont access the files so.....

I'm confused.
My understanding is that the Clear.fi application on our tabs is the streaming source for the media on the tab. It's pitched as a media sharing service. So, using it on the tab just means that the media on your tab is accessible from networked PC's and other devices - not the other way around (unless they too have Clear.fi installed)
At least, that's my understanding.
It reads to me that you're trying to get Clear.fi to 'see' media outside of the tablet environment and I don't believe it's suppose to do that.

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I'm confused.
My understanding is that the Clear.fi application on our tabs is the streaming source for the media on the tab. It's pitched as a media sharing service. So, using it on the tab just means that the media on your tab is accessible from networked PC's and other devices - not the other way around (unless they too have Clear.fi installed)
At least, that's my understanding.
It reads to me that you're trying to get Clear.fi to 'see' media outside of the tablet environment and I don't believe it's suppose to do that.
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Hmm. Here "Clear.fi" on the A500 was advertised as a DLNA-client. If it's a client then it should obviously play media. That's why I'm so confused; why advertise it as a client if it isn't one? And what's the point in sharing media ON the tablet when it's got so little storage, wouldn't it make more sense to play the media stored on your other devices on the tablet instead? I mean, you can HARDLY store much media on it, but you can easily store hundreds of gigabytes of stuff on any consumer-grade DLNA-server.
Meh. I feel so confused.

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Hmm. Here "Clear.fi" on the A500 was advertised as a DLNA-client. If it's a client then it should obviously play media. That's why I'm so confused; why advertise it as a client if it isn't one? And what's the point in sharing media ON the tablet when it's got so little storage, wouldn't it make more sense to play the media stored on your other devices on the tablet instead? I mean, you can HARDLY store much media on it, but you can easily store hundreds of gigabytes of stuff on any consumer-grade DLNA-server.
Meh. I feel so confused.
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That's the thing though - I think it 'can' be a client but only within the Clear.fi environment - that is to say, unless another device (say, a network connected PC) has Clear.fi installed and is streaming, the tablet can't connect to it to browse media files via Clear.fi.
I don't think Clear.fi is available as a stand alone application/download yet. It seems to me it's only bundled with Acer hardware for the time being.

Clear.fi works both ways, you can stream from the tab to the pc or from the pc to the tab. I have a home built pc with win7 on it and it will stream movies,pics and music to and from the tab. In win7 you need to go to "network and sharing" and "allow" it

I use clear.fi all the time both as a server and client. I can access my A500 on both my Windows 7 machines through WMP and can access media stored on both comps with my A500. All I had to do was set up Homeshare through WMP on my PCs, give access to my media files and I was up and running. As far as accessing my NAS drive, I have the drive mapped on my comps and shared so I can access it. I never could access it directly with clear.fi, but no big issue since I worked around it. I use it fairly often for watching videos in bed on my tablet. Of course, with netflix now working, I suspect that I'll do most of my late night viewing through it.

Well, I can't get Clear.fi to see my Mediatomb DLNA-server no matter what I do. PS3, XMBC and even my mobile phone however sees it just fine so the problem clearly lies in Clear.fi. Not that I'm too surprised, Acer isn't known for making quality software.

LOL I have always found if funny how threads go off on thier own direction and never answer or address the original question. Yes clear.fi is an acer only program as it made by acer. yes it is supose to be both server and client. Yes it can and will see media out side clear.fi only software and devices (or at least it is suppose too) acording to the web page. but none of these were my question.
Has anyone else tried to access media on a n.a.s. (network attached storage device) ? My clear.fi sees the device and gains access but will only play back picture files. If I try to access movies or music it justtells me the device is disconnected!
From what I am reading here everyone is juststreaming media to and from thier p.c's that aspect of mine works. what im wanting to know is if anyone here uses a stand alone media server on a wireless network? NOT a computer!
I have a linksys router wireless n dual band That you connect a hard drive to and it runs a media server from the router so all wireless devices can access media on the hard drive right through the router no need for a computer.
Everything i have sees the server and media just fine xbox,ps3,computer, nook color yes my nook color even sees it and plays the media. my wifi stereo and t.v all see and play the media just fine everythig except the iconia's clear.fi
I called acer and the confirmed it is suppose to be able to as well but mine does not. mine sees he server and will read picture files but that is it, so as it sees the server and does read some files i know its not my settingas on my network.
I really just wanted to know if anyone else has and luck with streaming media from a network storage device not other computers.
if you are having this same problem the solution i found is to not use clear.fi as I cant get it to work. I downloaded upnplay as the client and it works perfect so i know its not the iconia either it has to be the clear.fi software.
anyway if you have this same problem use pnplay instead as your client and if your on 3.1 stock rom mobo player dosent work on acer anymore so you'll have to use something different like rockplayer as your media player.

harlaquin said:
Has anyone else tried to access media on a n.a.s. (network attached storage device) ?
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Sorry, I don't own anything such and can't help you.

I have two different N.A.S devices, a Linksys and D-Link and having the same problem here, the Clear.fi software can see both of them but says it cannot connect to them.
Going to mess around with some settings later and see if I can get something to work, since Upnplay works perfectly I really haven't messed around with Clear.fi much

What OS are you guys (trying to get Clear.fi to access NAS) using?
I might be wrong but I think Clear.fi can only access NAS in a W7 environment.
btw, a little google search and I found a way to properly access files on my PC via Clear.fi on the tab.
You have to have WMP running and under each tab in the left dropdown pane make sure you map the approrpiate folders - so, for Music - r-click Music > Manage Music Library and Add the folder(s) you want to be able to access from the tab. Same for Pictures, Videos etc...
Make sure the Stream (tab in the top toolbar) is setup accordingly, then launch Clear.fi and it should see everything you 'Added'.
So the only caveat here is that you have to have the PC on and WMP running with the correct folders added and sharing setup correctly.

gammaRascal said:
What OS are you guys (trying to get Clear.fi to access NAS) using?
I might be wrong but I think Clear.fi can only access NAS in a W7 environment.
btw, a little google search and I found a way to properly access files on my PC via Clear.fi on the tab.
You have to have WMP running and under each tab in the left dropdown pane make sure you map the approrpiate folders - so, for Music - r-click Music > Manage Music Library and Add the folder(s) you want to be able to access from the tab. Same for Pictures, Videos etc...
Make sure the Stream (tab in the top toolbar) is setup accordingly, then launch Clear.fi and it should see everything you 'Added'.
So the only caveat here is that you have to have the PC on and WMP running with the correct folders added and sharing setup correctly.
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Gammarascal your missing the point same as all the other replies. we are not tring to access files on a pc. os is irrelavant. we are tring to access files from the network storage from our android tablets. the network stroage is not hook to any pc that is why it is called a network attached storage device. and clear .fi is suposse to access N.A.S devices weather or not you even have a P.C. in the house.
The P.C. is not a factor here.
I have come to the conclusion clear.fi is junk. should not be all that trouble to set something up and still have it not work. downloaded upnplay and all i did was open it and there was my files no setting up needed easy peasy... upnplay works on my nook color as well.
Have never understood why one small software developer can make a app that just works right out the gate but these big compaines make software that needs to be set up, tweeked, fooled with, crashed, reloaded, unistalled, reinstalled, re tweeked and then it might work.
Oh well thansk guys but im done with clear.fi..... upnplay does what I want and no setup required or software on comps.

Same thing here. I have a LaCie NAS and a TwonkyMedia dlna server under Fedora 15. Clear.fi see both of them but is unable to connect.
I guess clear.fi can only connect to a windows computer.

App update: MX Video Player

Just a heads up - MX video player has officially updated and now has native Honeycomb support, many more decoding options, a much better user interface, and generally is the most well rounded video player I have ever used.
Give it a shot if you find yourself using your Iconia for video playback!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad&hl=en

I was wondering...
I have been changing ROMS this week and I couldn't remember which players I had. I hated not being able use one player, imagine my surprise when MX Video played all my files.
I have two sports files that could not be... not sure of the word, but they had to be watched from beginning to end, couldn't skip the commercials. Now I can.
The improvements are substantial.

scottw714 said:
I was wondering...
I have been changing ROMS this week and I couldn't remember which players I had. I hated not being able use one player, imagine my surprise when MX Video played all my files.
I have two sports files that could not be... not sure of the word, but they had to be watched from beginning to end, couldn't skip the commercials. Now I can.
The improvements are substantial.
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Glad to remind you. It plays pretty much every video file I have thrown at it.

just installed it and holy crap it's damn smooth. Not a bit of lag when jumping through the movie and it picked up every file i had immediately, now if it could play files from my pc on the tab ....

That's the best videop player for playing 720p mkvs so smooth. Plus it's free.

irishmoe said:
just installed it and holy crap it's damn smooth. Not a bit of lag when jumping through the movie and it picked up every file i had immediately, now if it could play files from my pc on the tab ....
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It can! Snag a copy of es file explorer, make sure pc is set to allow sharing for guest user for the folder containing the video files, click the LAN button up top, menu, new, new scan - this will show you all network devices on your lan. Find the correct system, open the video folder, tap the file you wanna watch, open with mx video player
Hope that made any sense

entropy.of.avarice said:
It can! Snag a copy of es file explorer, make sure pc is set to allow sharing for guest user for the folder containing the video files, click the LAN button up top, menu, new, new scan - this will show you all network devices on your lan. Find the correct system, open the video folder, tap the file you wanna watch, open with mx video player
Hope that made any sense
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Now that is good to know, I've gotten as far as scan and finding my laptop but it says login failed try new login and password, which I'm presuming is my user account or admin password on windows but I can't remember the damn thing! I haven't set up pc to allow access from my tab ( haven't figured out how to do that yet) could that be a problem too?

irishmoe said:
Now that is good to know, I've gotten as far as scan and finding my laptop but it says login failed try new login and password, which I'm presuming is my user account or admin password on windows but I can't remember the damn thing! I haven't set up pc to allow access from my tab ( haven't figured out how to do that yet) could that be a problem too?
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Yup. You need to futz around with filesharing a bit - enable the guest annount, and when sharing the folder make sure it is shared with the group "everyone"
Also on newer versions of windows, make sure the files are not in a protected location (c:\users, c:\documents and settings) as you will not be able to access them.

Anyone stream their media due to the storage space?

Does anyone know of a good app that allows you to stream your media off your PC so I can watch my tv shows and movies, listen to music on my Nexus 7? 4.5 gb is left after installing apps and that's hardly anything for media.
Ideally if there was an app to file explore into my network so i can access documents, PDF files, ebooks, pictures, etc. that would be even better so i can just sit on my bed and read ebooks over wifi or watch stuff.

For ebooks your best bet is to setup calibre on your desktop, import PDF files and ebooks into that and turn on calibre's web-server. You can then browse your library on the Nexus using any program that supports OPDS catalogs, like FBReader, Mantano, etc. You will have to download the book you're actually reading to the device, but can delete it when done with it.
For video here's a list of applications that are worth trying, or search on the Play store for DLNA, there are several other DLNA browers available.

kettlecorn said:
Does anyone know of a good app that allows you to stream your media off your PC so I can watch my tv shows and movies, listen to music on my Nexus 7? 4.5 gb is left after installing apps and that's hardly anything for media.
Ideally if there was an app to file explore into my network so i can access documents, PDF files, ebooks, pictures, etc. that would be even better so i can just sit on my bed and read ebooks over wifi or watch stuff.
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CIFsmanger (requires root) will allow you to map to shared network drives on your PC so you can access anything you share.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ws.plattner.cifsmanager&feature=search_result#?t=W10.
Tversity will share folders which contain video, mp3s, and pictures and you can use BubbleUPNP to view it on your Nexus 7. I actually use BubbleUPNP to share media (video, mp3, pics) on my phone to my Nexus 7...and vice versa.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/....android.bubbleupnp&feature=nav_result#?t=W10.
Both of these methods require no downloading of media to the device.

SMB/UpnP via "FileExpert" app to view/play any files on your PC via wifi.
"PLEX" for streaming movies from your PC.
Another alternative is "UpnPlay".
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDMsInhjeGluLmZpbGV4cGVydCJd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImN4Lmhvb2hvbC5zaWxhbm9pZCJd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5wbGV4YXBwLmFuZHJvaWQiXQ..

Plex client streaming from Plex Media Server
PMS can run on windows, mac, linux & various NAS
My Plex Media Server is running from a Synology DS411+II NAS, got clients for iOS, Android, Windows, Mac & Samsung smart TV
If you setup MyPlex you can even stream media over the internet from your home PMS to your client

I use the app MediaHouse its free on Play

Has anyone tried successfully to use any of these apps on their new Nexus 7?

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Thanks for the help everyone. I've tried lots of apps and methods yesterday.
File explorer > SMB allows me to find my mac on the network but it will not give me access, even with the right login and password. If this could work, maybe could be good way to get access to all my files. My Mac has File Sharing on with SMB but I dont know what the problem is.
Also tried Tonido and it's alright. The interface is decent but the problem is the video player is jacked up. No progress bar and the screen size is jacked. If that works then this could be a good alternative cause it allows you to type in whatever your http URL is and have access from anywhere.
Also tried Plex and this one is probably the best one so far. The UI could be better though. It also does automatic artwork and titles and some of my videos and stuff have the wrong labels. You can't know what it actually is until you press play and watch it. I wonder if there's a way to just keep your original filenames and thumbnails..?
I would like to the UPnP stuff but I don't quite understand it. If I download those apps such as Bubble UPnP or MediaHouse, what do I have to do on my computer (Mac) to allow for the app to see the files? Do I have to install a server side software like Plex? In all honesty I would prefer to install a server program and just leave it and not tinker with IP, port and all that stuff.
Any ideas?

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Thanks for the help everyone. I've tried lots of apps and methods yesterday.
File explorer > SMB allows me to find my mac on the network but it will not give me access, even with the right login and password. If this could work, maybe could be good way to get access to all my files. My Mac has File Sharing on with SMB but I dont know what the problem is.
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Since you mention file explorers, have you given ES File Explorer a try? I use it constantly on all my Android devices for its good interfaces with SMB, FTP, GDrive/Dropbox, and a lot of other cloud/server options. It works great on my Win7 box's SMB share (under its LAN share option), and it has the ability to connect to FTP servers as well, which should be relatively easy to find step-by-step guides on setting up on a Mac. ES -can- stream files and play them with either its built-in media player or any other on your tablet, but I find it more useful for quick and easy copying media to my tablet for watching/listening then deleting.

With respect to the Plex metadata being incorrect, according to the plex wiki you can get it to use "local media assets".
Again according to the wiki, you do have the ability to edit the metadata yourself, something I wasn't aware of, got lots of updates to do on my library now!

I just found an app last night that I really liked using on my N7. It's called aVia media player. It was easy to set up and I haven't found a movie I can't play using it on my tablet. I use Plex to stream throughout the house and also have it on my N7, but I set up multiple user accts for the tablet and didn't want to have to buy Plex app again so i found this instead. It found my Plex MS from my WHS2011 box and connected using dlna no probs. Might be what you're looking for. It'll find any device on your network and stream from it provided you have everything configured properly.

I've had excellent success streaming HD movies from my home network to my n7 using as file explorer to navigate to my windows 7 share d network drive and MX player to open the files and stream. I also have wireless streaming working from my phones sd card to my n7. Need a rooted phone...1. connect n7 to WiFi hotspot on phone 2. On phone open es role manager go to settings>remote Settings> check remote manage and ,make phone ftp server 3. Es file explorer on n7 and select connect to ftp server, enter server address that is displayed on phone, navigate to movie files on phone sd card, play, stream to N7 begins.

One app I use is PlayOn. You do have to pay for it, but you can get a free trial for a couple of weeks I think.
It will stream video, pics, and music. After you connect once from your home WiFi, it will then connect from the Internet thereafter - Almost no set up required. A bonus is you can stream REGULAR Hulu. You can use it with PS3, Xbox, and Roku to your TV as well.
They have a lifetime subscription available, and often put it on sale

Using the cloud to stream movies etc - How?

Since the Nexus doesn't come with an SD slot I was wondering what the best way is to use the cloud as a storage medium for movies and stuff like that. I know Google has things such as Google Music but those aren't available in my country.
I'm planning on getting an OTG cable and an app to mount an USB Flash Drive but if there's other ways I'd love to hear them.

The idea with the streaming movies is to buy them from the Play Store and stream them that way. I'm sure there are other websites, but the problem is with the flash player not being built in, you have to side load it which can be tricky sometimes.
If you want to use Google Music outside the US, there is a thread here about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757991
I recommend using tunnelbear. I tried various proxys for an hour and couldn't get any to work. Tries tunnelbear and sorted it in a few mins. Already uploaded 3,000 songs to it

Jon565G said:
The idea with the streaming movies is to buy them from the Play Store and stream them that way. I'm sure there are other websites, but the problem is with the flash player not being built in, you have to side load it which can be tricky sometimes.
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I see, well guess OTG it will be than. The day I start paying for a stream of bytes without actually getting to own that stream of bytes is the day hell freezes over. I have an extensive movie (DVD) collection and I'm not about to buy everything again.
If you want to use Google Music outside the US, there is a thread here about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757991
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Yea I tried that (using a SOCKS proxy to my hosting server in California), I could access music.google.com but apparently you need to install an application on your PC to use it, which might be a problem (linux user). Gonna look at it again later tonight.

Amon_Re said:
I see, well guess OTG it will be than. The day I start paying for a stream of bytes without actually getting to own that stream of bytes is the day hell freezes over. I have an extensive movie (DVD) collection and I'm not about to buy everything again.
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I agree totally. I've converted some of mine to AVI so that I can watch it on my PS3 external HDD without having to use the disc. So it's quite easy to just copy them to the N7 and use MX Player.
I do have another option for you if you own a Wifi direct phone. (Mainly android 4.0 +). It's called Wifi Shoot! : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.budius.WiFiShoot&hl=en. You can just pick the file you want off your phone and transfer it to the N7, like you would Bluetooth a file
If you can't do that, like me (Stupid Sony deleting that feature from ICS) you could use Airdroid. Get your phone to act as a Wifi Hotspot and connect to it with the N7. You can then transfer files as to your tablet the same way you would your PC if you use Airdroid. (It doesn't use any data and can transfer very fast). I used this when I was on Holiday and didn't have a laptop.

That app looks very cool, thx!