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Samsungs Guaranty/Warranty

Afternoon all,
Last week i had to put in my phone for repair, fine cracks had appeared on the LED under the gorrila glass, thus making my screen blank and none responsive.
I wasnt holding my breath as i thought that it would come back with this answer, they came back saying this (this is though phones4u as that is who i purchased the phone with):
Unfortunately your phone appears to be Out of Warranty so we have raised the following estimate.
So i gave them a call to see how it could be out of warranty and they said even though it is inside the 12months as it is a cracked screen it isnt covered by the wrranty, this is classed as accidental damage.
Now this phone has never been dropped, it was got last april and is pretty much in perfect condition and have no idea how the cracks on the LED appered, after explaining all this i was told the same, it isnt covered as there is no way to prove it wasnt dropped or had extreme pressure put on it.
They gave me a quote of £71.99 to repair the phone and get it back to me, which i am paying. If i had cracked the screen by fault of my own i would think this a good price as i have seen replacement screens on ebay,ect for alot more.
I feel a little hard done by as i know nothing has happened to break my phone, i was just wondering how others feel. Do you think with the size and popularity of Samsung phones they should be offering something like apple loyalty replacement or something similar? or has anyone had better luck going though a different vendor?

Should have contacted Samsung directly instead of going through one of the rip off merchants.

Intratech said:
Should have contacted Samsung directly instead of going through one of the rip off merchants.
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I was told by the man in phones4u that it was being sent to Samsung but it seems to have gone to their repair people. :/
Do you think going to sammy direct would have gotten me a different answer or cheaper repair?

Crucio_ said:
I was told by the man in phones4u that it was being sent to Samsung but it seems to have gone to their repair people. :/
Do you think going to sammy direct would have gotten me a different answer or cheaper repair?
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They probably would have given it a more close inspection, as to signs of possible drops or accidents.
That sucks. I'll be sure and steer clear of phones4u in the future, thanks for the heads up.

Crucio_ said:
I was told by the man in phones4u that it was being sent to Samsung but it seems to have gone to their repair people. :/
Do you think going to sammy direct would have gotten me a different answer or cheaper repair?
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Dunno but I find it easier to deal directly with the manufacturer than the rip off merchants. When my tab had some dust under the screen within a few weeks of purchase PC World refused to exchange it and said I may need to pay for the repair. Told them to where to stick it and called Samsung directly and they sent a prepaid jiffy bag for the device and a form to fill and send it back to them. They repaired it free of charge and I got it back within a week of sending it off.

Thanks for the input Intratech, think this is a case of lesson learnt for any future problems (hoping there isnt any).

You are in that very difficult position accidental damage by user who of course claims not .Versus phone broke by itself
You could claim against the seller but after six months its up to you to provide the proof that its a manufacturing fault .
As said Samsung may well have been the best route as they will have a higher margin and better trained staff than retail outlets .
jje

Although I prefer to use the S2 as my daily phone, I also own an iPhone 4.
One thing I really love about Apple is their warranty. Pretty much no questions asked. I guarantee if I went in with a cracked LCD (not screen) they would have replaced it on the spot.
Although I love Sammy (S1 & S2) their warranty stinks. Also, no official invoice means no warranty.
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Thanks for the replies folks.
I also love what apple do for the customers warranty wise, being able to look up the age of a model instore is amazing.
Do you think that sammy should introduce something like this due to how much they are competing with apple now?
How hard would it be to incorporate this service in to the generic phone shops (CPW,Phones4u,ect).

The cracks maybe related to temperature differentiation? From very hot ambiance to very cold one? It is good to know this kind of stuff.

Crucio_ said:
Thanks for the replies folks.
Do you think that sammy should introduce something like this due to how much they are competing with apple now?
Yes and charge the premium that Apple charge for the phone .
jje
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i work in mobile sales, and i see this allllll the time, now i do believe you when you say that it was probably a manufacturing fault with the screen, but you have to keep in mind that probably 97% of the time with customers, it is the their own fault, and about 85% of those people will downright lie about it, ive had a customer come into my store shouting and screaming that it wasnt her fault the screen was cracked, that it was made badly and that she always was super careful about it, until her 5/6 year old son says 'but wait mommy, i saw you throw it up against the wall when you were shouting...'
fact is, people lie about it, all the time, same with water damage! 'sorry sir but its water damaged, theres not alot i can do about it'
'it hasnt been anywhere near water! it must be the humidity, or condensation, but it most defiantly hasnt gotten wet'
'but look sir... that looks alot like milk to me'
'ah...'
im sure if people were honest all the time, your phone would have been fixed no problem, but no, they arnt :/
sorry about the rant!

Gizoman said:
The cracks maybe related to temperature differentiation? From very hot ambiance to very cold one? It is good to know this kind of stuff.
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This was something that had crossed my mind, before it happened i was at my mums all warm lovely, then i went out and it was freezing was out for about 30min before i noticed what had happened.
I saw that article about how the s2 can work at low low temps the other day, but i dont think it said anything about the effect of a quick change in temps.
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Yes and charge the premium that Apple charge for the phone.
jje
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Just using o2.co.uk as an example (i know there are a lot of different prices out there i just used a popular place), our s2 is £449.99 on p&g and the ip4s is £499.99.
The £50 difference isn't much more of a premium for how long most people keep there phones for.

Crucio_ said:
Just using o2.co.uk as an example (i know there are a lot of different prices out there i just used a popular place), our s2 is £449.99 on p&g and the ip4s is £499.99.
The £50 difference isn't much more of a premium for how long most people keep there phones for.
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I scored mine for 275GBP including an extra battery, and a silicone case. 2 months old (used) not a scratch, delivered to my door (through pure coincidence). Sammobile.com claims that factory warranty runs until Sept 2013.

I suppose im lucky in the sense in that when i purchased my phone on eBay it came with a 2 year warranty and (touch wood) ive had no trouble with it at all and i have it 8 months now and it's running fine, ive heard some bad reports about Phones4U too, their sales assistants are seriously pushy as well the minute you step into one of their shops they are all over you like a rash firing questions at you desperate to make a sale, any wonder i rarely ever go there anymore when im in the UK.

sean is here. said:
I scored mine for 275GBP including an extra battery, and a silicone case. 2 months old (used) not a scratch, delivered to my door (through pure coincidence). Sammobile.com claims that factory warranty runs until Sept 2013.
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Mine was free on £40 p/m contract, i got it the day after it was released tho it has been in a silicone case from day one. I don't doubt that shopping around will find you our phone cheaper. i just think the majority of people would use a place like o2 or other retail chains.
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I suppose im lucky in the sense in that when i purchased my phone on eBay it came with a 2 year warranty and (touch wood) ive had no trouble with it at all and i have it 8 months now and it's running fine, ive heard some bad reports about Phones4U too, their sales assistants are seriously pushy as well the minute you step into one of their shops they are all over you like a rash firing questions at you desperate to make a sale, any wonder i rarely ever go there anymore when im in the UK.
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I don't think that i will be using them again, i didn't get really get any bad service and the staff were as helpful as they could be. I just want to move away from the whole tied to a contract thing, im signed up for 24 months and i regret that now. I will probably aim to do something like in your sig and go on gif gaf if they are still as good in 15months time.

O2 PAYG £405 first day of release
unlocked out of the box and a Giffgaff PAYG Sim .
jje

sean is here. said:
I scored mine for 275GBP including an extra battery, and a silicone case. 2 months old (used) not a scratch, delivered to my door (through pure coincidence). Sammobile.com claims that factory warranty runs until Sept 2013.
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Yeah my warranty card states that the device has a warranty of 24months starting from date of purchase. So Sept 2013 for me also lol

I saw warranty on SamMobile and it was of 1 year and 10 months from the date of purchase but the Samsung guy says he will only give it till 1 year from the date of purchase
P.S yesterday I got my screen replaced and my proximity sensor is not working
Such an idiot guy,I have to go again to service center tomorrow because today is Sunday and its closed
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Warranty may be dependant upon area of sales .
Usual in the UK with Samsung mobiles is that Samsung offer a limited warranty for twenty four months .
That is outside of the sellers responsibility for the phone which is usually a twelve month warranty .
jje

An Outrage. Samsung will NOT be replacing my malfunctioning Note

Hi guys. I have posted before about my faulty Galaxy Note in a few threads, but today i was in a shock when the employee of the eshop i bought my Note from informed me that my Note not only has bad hardware but that Samsung refuses to replace faulty devices and only offers to repair them.
The employee told me that the technician diagnosed a motherboard problem(i don't know how else to translate it) and it won't even recharge.
It stands to reason that repairs should cost more than a new note.
Do you think that Samsung will replace my phone?
Also do you find this policy of Samsung wrong or what?
I believe it's appalling, and i am not going to buy another Samsung phone or other product from such an irresponsible company ever again.
Anyway, has anyone have experience with this sort of thing? If yes can you recommend how i should play my cards? Thanks in advance

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Hi guys. I have posted before about my faulty Galaxy Note in a few threads, but today i was in a shock when the employee of the eshop i bought my Note from informed me that my Note not only has bad hardware but that Samsung refuses to replace faulty devices and only offers to repair them.
The employee told me that the technician diagnosed a motherboard problem(i don't know how else to translate it) and it won't even recharge.
It stands to reason that repairs should cost more than a new note.
Do you think that Samsung will replace my phone?
Also do you find this policy of Samsung wrong or what?
I believe it's appalling, and i am not going to buy another Samsung phone or other product from such an irresponsible company ever again.
Anyway, has anyone have experience with this sort of thing? If yes can you recommend how i should play my cards? Thanks in advance
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Well its quite a common thing in service center... the so called "engineers" will not make a replacement for ur faulty phone when they see deem fit that its repairable...
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Its a motherboard replacement, so no it does not cost more than the entire phone. It seems like you "want" a new phone due to the problem more than actually getting the problem resolved. I doubt samsung would utilize an effort in repair that would be more costly to them than replacing the phone itself. I personally don't think their methods are wrong and I love my Samsung products, I do however understand they are assembly line products and some will have defects, we get them fixed and move on.

joshua said:
Well its quite a common thing in service center... the so called "engineers" will not make a replacement for ur faulty phone when they see deem fit that its repairable...
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Are you suggesting that there can be gained some kind of profit from me(other that transporting expenses to the couriers)? No that's not the case if that is what you are implying; my guarantee makes all repair costs free.
So how would they gain from me?

I find it quite normal that they only replace what needs to be...
When your car has a faulty wheel, do you ask the whole car to be replaced?

Bingoig11 said:
I find it quite normal that they only replace what needs to be...
When your car has a faulty wheel, do you ask the whole car to be replaced?
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probably yes, if its bought for less than a week.

skillz9669 said:
Its a motherboard replacement, so no it does not cost more than the entire phone. It seems like you "want" a new phone due to the problem more than actually getting the problem resolved. I doubt samsung would utilize an effort in repair that would be more costly to them than replacing the phone itself. I personally don't think their methods are wrong and I love my Samsung products, I do however understand they are assembly line products and some will have defects, we get them fixed and move on.
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I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone.
From what i've been told on this site it is supposed to be a very stable phone. I have been excited and then frustrated a lot with that phone and it has affected my mood on numerous occasions.
I think i am entitled to some anger against the company for not doing their job right.
I can understand assembly line defects but i don't understand indifference.
It seems like the whole business operates on an automatic assembly line and that frustrates me when i can't have a responsible company representative to solve my problem easily, quickly and effectively.
The only representatives i could reach on the phone were samsung calling center employees and they were vague as vague can be. They of course delegated the problem as much as they could.
I tell you friend, that's no way a responsible company acts. I will not be providing income to them anymore as a consequence of this behavior.

musashiro said:
probably yes, if its bought for less than a week.
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You wont get one though..You'll get a new wheel
It doesn't even make sense to me that someone would expect a new car if the wheel failed..Even if it was a mile from the lot you bought it from.
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I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone.
From what i've been told on this site it is supposed to be a very stable phone. I have been excited and then frustrated a lot with that phone and it has affected my mood on numerous occasions.
I think i am entitled to some anger against the company for not doing their job right.
I can understand assembly line defects but i don't understand indifference.
It seems like the whole business operates on an automatic assembly line and that frustrates me when i can't have a responsible company representative to solve my problem easily, quickly and effectively.
The only representatives i could reach on the phone were samsung calling center employees and they were vague as vague can be. They of course delegated the problem as much as they could.
I tell you friend, that's no way a responsible company acts. I will not be providing income to them anymore as a consequence of this behavior.
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Who is fixing it Samsung or some shop that fixes them for warranty? Sounds like whoever is fixing your phone is dropping the ball and doesnt know what they are doing.
I'm not sure what other manufacturor will do things different? They are all basically the same or worse.

"I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone."
That line, which was not included in your original post, changed everything. If you have been following their "policy" and have given them multiple attempts to repair your device and now its costing YOU time and effort, that's unacceptable. I assumed you brought it in with an issue, and that was their resolution, seemed fitting. This no longer seems the case, and yes I would demand a replacement phone. Not only will your problem most likely never get fixed but opening the device up and moving internal parts around over and over is not a good thing for the longevity of the phone. So as they say in the courts, I retract my previous statement, tell em to replace the damn thing!

I feel for you dude.... You buy a brand new device expecting it to work, not having to send it back and forth to fix a problem on a brand new product.
But things happen and personally I don't mind getting it fixed if it's guaranteed. At least it's still the one you bought and not a refurbished unit from someone else.
Of course you have the right to be angry. Anyone would after all that you've described.

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Who is fixing it Samsung or some shop that fixes them for warranty? Sounds like whoever is fixing your phone is dropping the ball and doesnt know what they are doing.
I'm not sure what other manufacturor will do things different? They are all basically the same or worse.
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I sent it to Samsung. Samsung has a company here in Greece that fixes them. They send it there for repairs. Now they saw the condition my phone was in, and they made a poor diagnosis(In my view it was a hasty/irresponsible diagnosis in order to get rid of me) that it was a faulty battery. They didn't even bother to check my phone if it was ok after they "fixed" it as it turns out.
Now with Samsung that's the problem, they delegate and compartmentalize their company as much as it is required to shift responsibility and make you feel lost and frustrated.
I hate that kind of shadowy situation they have built around themselves so they won't have to admit "yes we don't give a **** about the consumer, we just want to sell", and that's why i decided to not take from them anymore.

+1 on what MrDSL said. Have you bought your device from an official dealer? In Bulgaria we have many small electronic stores where they get devices from eBay or God knows from where, the sell these devices 50-100 bucks cheaper and their warranty is linked to some crappy repair services and not to the official one (or authorized one). Some years ago I got my first smartphone Orange branded from such a shop. I would never do that mistake again.
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skillz9669 said:
"I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone."
That line, which was not included in your original post, changed everything. If you have been following their "policy" and have given them multiple attempts to repair your device and now its costing YOU time and effort, that's unacceptable. I assumed you brought it in with an issue, and that was their resolution, seemed fitting. This no longer seems the case, and yes I would demand a replacement phone. Not only will your problem most likely never get fixed but opening the device up and moving internal parts around over and over is not a good thing for the longevity of the phone. So as they say in the courts, I retract my previous statement, tell em to replace the damn thing!
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The employee of the eshop called them today and was firm on replacing the device, the problem is that they were firm themselves about NOT replacing it.
What can i do against a big company like them?
If they decide i don't get another phone what the hell can i do?

drkalo said:
+1 on what MrDSL said. Have you bought your device from an official dealer? In Bulgaria we have many small electronic stores where they get devices from eBay or God knows from where, the sell these devices 50-100 bucks cheaper and their warranty is linked to some crappy repair services and not to the official one (or authorized one). Some years ago I got my first smartphone Orange branded from such a shop. I would never do that mistake again.
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I bought it from a small electronics online shop here in Greece. They buy the phones from Germany and the guarantee is linked to the German Market. If all else fails i have to take my case there.
But they employee tells me that it's the company's policy(as well as many others besides Apple) that they don't replace devices, end of story.
So again, even though my guarantee is solid, the COMPANY is NOT.

So they will charge you for replacing the mainboard? If samsung has representative office in your country, go there and directly talk with them about your problem. If not i think you're out of luck.
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liltennisdudexx said:
So they will charge you for replacing the mainboard? If samsung has representative office in your country, go there and directly talk with them about your problem. If not i think you're out of luck.
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Nobody has made any talk about extra charges, that is covered by the guarantee.
If that was the case i might be convinced to move legally against them.

Its simple, cost of part and installing cheaper then replacement of whole phone then replace part. Logic no?
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This is not a Samsung specific issue all phone manufactures work like this. Next replacing the motherboard is more or less getting a new phone as the phone is roughly motherboard + screen and very little else.
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It might be different in other countries but i work for Ford in the uk and know alittle about the way guarantees and warranty work my note is on contract with 02 and to date i have had 3 new notes from 02 two because i scratched them and just said there was problems with the software on them. Also you have a 28 day no quibble returns policy in the u.k with electronic things. Also if ya good at blagging you can get anything of big companys i upgraded to a nexus in january and the software went into bootloop before i even had time to root it so i kicked off and this happened twice so ended up kicking off and telling them i wanted a note otherwise i was going to trading standards cos they werent fit for purpose and guess what i got a brand new note 3 months after an upgrade. I was always told shy kids get no sweets so try ya luck
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Interesting this .I myself have just taken in my note 3 ( I brought direct from Samsung) which is completely dead into a Samsung approved repair centre. They told me the phone needs to be sent away for a motherboard replacement which will take between 7-10 days. I am a little putout as to the time without my Note but I suppose at least I'll get it back fully functional.
Now last year I took my wife's Iphone into one of there Genius centres with a problem (dead phone again) and guess what we were given a nice new shiny replacement there and then.
They do say you only know how good a manufacture is when you need them most !
Think Samsung may need to up there game.
You pay top dollar or a phone it should come with top dollar service

Badly cracked frame replaced under warranty!

Hi everyone I just had my phone replaced under manufacturing fault. The frame had started cracking about a month ago, it got so bad there where about 15 cracks along volume side and 2-3 around all other edges.
I was told it is a recognized problem!!!!
The build quality of the new one is alot better the gap around the screen is a lot smaller, and there is a nicer feel to all the buttons.
Maybe they have revised the internals because I believe when the phone gets hot the insides expand and cause the cracking along the weld lines of the PC frame
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Did you contact Samsung service directly ?
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can I ask you to keep all documentation for this, as it could be very useful to other UK users, now they have set a precedent.

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Frame cracked near the USB port.
Hi,
Even my SIII frame got cracked near the charging port after using for 5 months, This crack i noticed last week, I havent dropped a single time and its in silicon case from the day i bought. Still its cracked near the charging port. FYI, I am from India. I have even attached the pic of my phone with the cracked area highlighted.
can you please let out the information of your service location with the service request ID, so that i can show this as proof which servicing in my location.
Chappac said:
Hi everyone I just had my phone replaced under manufacturing fault. The frame had started cracking about a month ago, it got so bad there where about 15 cracks along volume side and 2-3 around all other edges.
I was told it is a recognized problem!!!!
The build quality of the new one is alot better the gap around the screen is a lot smaller, and there is a nicer feel to all the buttons.
Maybe they have revised the internals because I believe when the phone gets hot the insides expand and cause the cracking along the weld lines of the PC frame
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potential heat fractures? haven't been keeping your phones in variable temperatures have you?

I didnt do anything abnormal, which made this crack, I used to play games for an hour everyday, may be playing games would have dissasipated more heat. which lead to crack near the port, some times i have even noticed my charger ports gets heated whiel charging even that could lead to this crack.
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potential heat fractures? haven't been keeping your phones in variable temperatures have you?
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I just realised I have a crack in the exact same spot! Who did you approach for a replacement? Samsung or your phone company?
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I have contacted customer care and also mailed technical support regarding this problem, But the samsung guys just replied tha ti have to repair by myself and it costs around 7200 Indian rupees , I have again raised the complaint and highlighted them its a known issue by Samsung but they are failing to repair in warranty. they asked me to send me a pic of the cracked area whic hi have sent it , expecting reply from them, I am not gonan leave these samsung guys, wil lfile a consumer case if they fail to repair, paying a huge price for this 38900 Rupess and stil i have to pay 7200Rs for thier own mistake, absolute bull****!.... Every one please join hands and write letters to samsung regarding these issue. failing this i will be posting this in each and every forum not to get samsung phones anymore!...
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I just realised I have a crack in the exact same spot! Who did you approach for a replacement? Samsung or your phone company?
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In the UK the retailer is generally responsible for the product for the first year. So I'll be contacting Vodafone in the next few days... But I know Samsung will also randomly fix stuff for you as well, so I guess I'll try sending them an email too...
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I have contacted customer care and also mailed technical support regarding this problem, But the samsung guys just replied tha ti have to repair by myself and it costs around 7200 Indian rupees , I have again raised the complaint and highlighted them its a known issue by Samsung but they are failing to repair in warranty. they asked me to send me a pic of the cracked area whic hi have sent it , expecting reply from them, I am not gonan leave these samsung guys, wil lfile a consumer case if they fail to repair, paying a huge price for this 38900 Rupess and stil i have to pay 7200Rs for thier own mistake, absolute bull****!.... Every one please join hands and write letters to samsung regarding these issue. failing this i will be posting this in each and every forum not to get samsung phones anymore!...
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Wishing you luck on getting the issue resolved with ease.. :good:

Useless Samsung!...(I wont buy anymore)
I got a reply from Samsung that its damaged done by me and i have to bare the charges for it, Even though i argued its a matter of build quality, they still said you have used for 4 months, and its broken bcos of you, They dont care about what the person says, All they need is money. WTF....even without a songle drop in ground how can it break. Any Samsung users from india is expereincing the same problem as me. (cracked near the charging port). This Samsung india is lying that none of the users from india has complained about this issue. I wanna show them this is not the damage done by me. This will be my last product from Samsung. I won't go for any of their products in future.. Request all to stay away from Samsung Products in future. I feel ashamed i was a samsung fan for past 4 years I have used Wave, S, SII now SIII. They have started to cheat customers...All they need is your money!.
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In the UK the retailer is generally responsible for the product for the first year. So I'll be contacting Vodafone in the next few days... But I know Samsung will also randomly fix stuff for you as well, so I guess I'll try sending them an email too...
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My local authorised dealer said they would change the casing no problem but now it has to go to Samsung due to other issues they have said I may get charged

Premindia87 said:
I got a reply from Samsung that its damaged done by me and i have to bare the charges for it, Even though i argued its a matter of build quality, they still said you have used for 4 months, and its broken bcos of you, They dont care about what the person says, All they need is money. WTF....even without a songle drop in ground how can it break. Any Samsung users from india is expereincing the same problem as me. (cracked near the charging port). This Samsung india is lying that none of the users from india has complained about this issue. I wanna show them this is not the damage done by me. This will be my last product from Samsung. I won't go for any of their products in future.. Request all to stay away from Samsung Products in future. I feel ashamed i was a samsung fan for past 4 years I have used Wave, S, SII now SIII. They have started to cheat customers...All they need is your money!.
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It is not a samsung fault ...yea they have a bad material in starting but the contractors in every country are responsible for warranty service some give good service and some are worse
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A story of a rooted phone, sent for repairs.

Dear Readers,
I am about to tell you my story of myself a current Galaxy Note user and the unfortunate episode when my phone had problems. I have been a long time user of xda, but a first time poster of this wonderful forum.
First of all I want to tell you I currently reside in Australia, Sydney and I am a Vodafone customer. I have been using this phone for about 6 months without any problems whatsoever, until a couple of weeks ago my phone started to inconsistently charge. At first I thought it was a cable issue, so I isolated the problem with a different cable and it didn't work. Fear and doubt crept into my mind for the next couple of days, if I should return the phone to Vodafone for repairs because as you may have guessed, my phone is rooted with a custom rom called, "AllianceROM_N7000_ICS_v2.1" with the wonderful "SpeedMod Kernel".
I searched through google and I found out that I wasn't the only person to have this problem with this charging issue. From further research I also found out that some people have claimed that sending a rooted phone into repairs will void your phones warranty, and some other people say that it won't void your warranty. Rather confused with this conflicting information, what other better way to confirm this issue than to call up Samsungs service centre. When I asked, the gentlemen on the other end just simply answered, "Yes".
So with this new information, I finally decided to unroot my phone and installed a stock official rom called N7000BDULR5_N7000BVAULR4_VAU. But before I did all this, from further research through XDA's forums I found out that I needed to reset my Binary count with Triangle Away by Chainfire. But with the issue of the phone not charging properly, it did not help with the issue of unrooting the phone, because the battery was constantly flat. After painstaking hours I finally unrooted my phone.
As I came home after handing my phone into Vodafone, a thought crept into my mind. Will they void my warranty, if I did not have the bloatware in which Vodafone has pre-installed into the phone? Because the stock rom in which I installed did not carry the bloatware.
Through the following week of praying that they will not void my warranty because of this issue, I got a message from Vodafone to pick up my phone. I called Vodafone customer repair centre and they told me that they have fixed the issue by replacing the micro usb connector which the pins was dislodged and also the UNIT-SUB PBA- which is the motherboard. Vodafone told me that this is a rare case in which the both of these hardware issues occur in the Galaxy note. Phew..
As of right now I am charging my phone without any problems so far. I will keep you guys updated if I have any other further issues with the repairs done on my phone.

I'm in Malaysia and I had the similar problem with you as well.
Initially I sent in my phone with the stock ROM but I forgot to reset the binary count and the 3rd party service center voided my warranty.
I took back my phone and installed "triangle away" by chainfire which reset my custom binary count and this time I sent it in to Samsung for a warranty claim and after the next day. They called me to collect my phone and my mother board + micro usb was replaced.
I did a little research myself and I've came to this conclusion and incompatible external battery packs messed up the system as I never had an issue with my phone charging till I bought myself a cheap external batter pack charger which then i guess messed up my board.
conclusion for me:
invest in a proper external batter pack which is compatible with the N7000 battery.

Congrats on getting your phone repaired without getting caught. Same thing had happened to me when I gave my phone to ssc. I had unrooted and used triangle away but unfortunately forgot to uninstall it. My phone was repaired and it still had triangle away in it. I guess they don't look into the phone that closely.
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without getting caught.
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the hardware is faulty, the pins don't last, apparently it's even a known issue at Samsung.. This repair has nothing to do with firmware. The phone boots, it runs, it can have different firmwares flashed to it, the issue is purely a hardware issue and so the warranty should cover the repair even with the custom binary... i dont like the loophole use by the warranty center when, as with this guy, the user clearly hasn't damaged the device... That would just be wrong.
Paranoid V. 5 | Hydracore 4.3 OC
GT-N7000

TopOfNewYork said:
the hardware is faulty, the pins don't last, apparently it's even a known issue at Samsung.. This repair has nothing to do with firmware. The phone boots, it runs, it can have different firmwares flashed to it, the issue is purely a hardware issue and so the warranty should cover the repair even with the custom binary... i dont like the loophole use by the warranty center when, as with this guy, the user clearly hasn't damaged the device... That would just be wrong.
Paranoid V. 5 | Hydracore 4.3 OC
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Dear Mr TopOfNewYork,
You maybe correct about the correlation with software Vs hardware issue that may render your phone having problems. But no legal terms and conditions will release the manufacturer of any legal liabilities with the products being offered to the public. (In Australia it is called the Australian Consumer Law 2010, Please check with your local countries consumer protectionism law.)
On another note, the phone has a random automatic reboot issue at random times, and as of now wont even boot to Touchwiz UI. The only way I can use the phone is to directly charge the phone, while using it. I have had the phone for two days from the date of it was returned to me, and I have complained (in a logical, non violent yelling manner) to Vodafone and they have agreed to send me a new Samsung Galaxy S3 16gb White.
I am absolutely satisfied to receive a new phone, and will update the situation about the new phone on the S3 forum.
Thank you for reading and have a happy and prosperous year.

Glad to know you got your problem solved.
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I sent my phone to samsung while it was still rooted and had a custom rom on it, they mustnt even check if its a hardware fault cause i had it back within 5 days with a new screen.

Alexanderbooth said:
I sent my phone to samsung while it was still rooted and had a custom rom on it, they mustnt even check if its a hardware fault cause i had it back within 5 days with a new screen.
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Well I just sent my Note 2 in and it took the service center 2 weeks to enter my phone...during that time Samsung cancelled my claim because the service centre in Quebec didn't enter it in time.
I called Samsung and they called the center and set them straight and now I just got a reply that my phone, while rooted, has never had a custom ROM on it and never had anything but stock...I rooted it only to kill the rogers bloatware that I could not uninstall.
I just got a reply and they told me the repair will cost $672 to repair the screen due to it being rooted....wtf
Reason it was sent in was in woke up, unplugged my phone from charging and noticed a stuck red dead pixel on the screen...wasn't there the night before....so how does root on a stock phone cause an hardware issue....time to call and complain to Samsung.
This is unreal....

I too had the problem! First I thought it was lint, etc, so I prodded etc. It would charge for5 min then stop.
In the end I got a new daughter board for£10 with the USB socket, new mix and antenna. Took less than ten mins to fit. It's been like new since.
I've the same issue on my Kindle HD, but that's another tale........
Box 13.

I unrooted my phone before giving it to the "Samsung" repair shop, which in my town is just a dodgy phone shop with a big Samsung sticker on the window. I got it back the next day with an untested bad ROM update so the keyboard just typed nonsense.
In the end I spent ages fixing the damage they caused and never got to the bottom of the original issue.
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Never had to warranty repair any of my Samsung devices until now...hope I never have to again as they suck!
Respect lost.

I had a rooted N7000 go into Samsung service with a hardware & a software issue & both issues were sorted under warranty for free & no mention of it being rooted, (it came back unrooted).
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I had unrooted device with blue hotpixel, these dumbasses first tear it down, then realized the receipt is not enough for proof so they want an invoice from seller stating where he got phones from. And because seller was a retard he didn't send me it in time, they reassembled the phone and sent it back (leaving a hair between frame and screen - proves that it was disassembled) I wonder for what they got grade A from Samsung...
From the same private service center, once they tried to prove that non-rooted and untouched phone was flashed (it was aftermath of failed Kies/Odin update), intervention in Samsung Poland helped, they sent a new phone.
In any case of imbeciles at service senter, contact Samsung, their people usually have more knowledge and are willing to help

Gambolputty said:
I had unrooted device with blue hotpixel, these dumbasses first tear it down, then realized the receipt is not enough for proof so they want an invoice from seller stating where he got phones from. And because seller was a retard he didn't send me it in time, they reassembled the phone and sent it back (leaving a hair between frame and screen - proves that it was disassembled) I wonder for what they got grade A from Samsung...
From the same private service center, once they tried to prove that non-rooted and untouched phone was flashed (it was aftermath of failed Kies/Odin update), intervention in Samsung Poland helped, they sent a new phone.
In any case of imbeciles at service senter, contact Samsung, their people usually have more knowledge and are willing to help
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Phones are under warranty by the date of manufactur ... you don't need reciepts or anything, it doesn't matter if its been sold to ten different people with no reciepts its still under Samsung Warranty.
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Unfortunately not in Poland, they still require at least receipt, but new internal procedures of service center require shop's invoice, especially since they see phone was bought in service/second hand shop (still it was brand new, untouched etc.), maybe they're just too dum dum to handle their internal stuff or are afraid it was serviced somewhere else, I must speak with Sammy about this

Gambolputty said:
Unfortunately not in Poland .........
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Why Samsung would tell you that I have no idea.

Samsung here in Canada asked for a copy of my receipt to be faxed within 5 days or the claim would be void.

morabass said:
I unrooted my phone before giving it to the "Samsung" repair shop, which in my town is just a dodgy phone shop with a big Samsung sticker on the window.
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Personally, I would strongly suggest to find authorised local service centres from the Samsung website of one's respective country/region. Alternatively, one could either call or send an e-mail to the customer support of one's respective country/region to enquire about the details of authorised local service centres.
For illustrative purpose, I would find the Samsung website for my country/region from, http://www.samsung.com/uk/function/ipredirection/ipredirectionLocalList.do, and I would then proceed to find authorised local service centres by using the Find Service Locations found under the Support menu.
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Udonitron said:
Samsung here in Canada asked for a copy of my receipt to be faxed within 5 days or the claim would be void.
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OK, I've been looking at a few countries warranty wording & yes it does say "Original purchase reciept" required for repairs so strange as it sounds they abide by different rules depending where you live.
I've not been asked for anything other than my personal details & address for collection. Yes that's right Samsung (I'm in UK) arrange to collect the phone & then deliver it back afterwards without any proof of purchase or reciepts. I have friends who have done the same & several of these phones including mine were bought secondhand but still in warranty (2yrs on some phones).

I want to share my warranty claim experience too (indonesia):
1. Galaxy S3, broken camera hardware. Clear binary, Flashed stock JB, sent to SSC. Asked for original purchase receipt, didn't have it. So i asked her to check the phone by serial number, warranty granted, fixed in 3 days and whooaa got extra 3 month warranty. I bought it when S3 launching event at June 12, extended to 31 sept 2013
2. Broke my Galaxy Nexus usb ports pin so usb cord can't plug properly and sometimes not detected in PC. I was too lazy to flash stock.. So with unlocked bootloader & Paranoid Android rom installed i went to same SSC, haha asked again for receipt and i didn't have it also. Granted, and got it fixed less than 1 hour
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Change to note 5?

Hi, so far my experience with the s6 edge plus is not so good. It overheats and sometimes is laggy. My friend who also bought the same model g928c from the same shop in UAE said his s6 edge plus broke because it overheated too much. I like the look and design though. If I sell my current s6 edge plus should I change to note 5 like my friend did? Or should I buy another working s6 edge plus? I can't return my current one because I live in the UK.

Never had any overheating or lag related to stock ROM so couldn't help you. I've heard the note tends to have more software lag due to specialized SPen programs and that the Edge+ is smoother. That's just hearsay though.

No heating here even after heavy gaming and never faced lag issues
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Wrong thread buddy.........snapdragons across the street

Never felt mine get even close to hot?
Lag.. a little.. but that seems to be more because the apps keeps closing

Should I just sell my 64gb g928c and buy a dual sim 32gb g9287 or 32gb g928f?
Or note 5?

On my G298F no lag and no overheats. @hayat55 hard reset your terminal and update it to the latest firmware via OTA, if not enough bring it to a customer service and keep your GS6+.
Regards

cyberz said:
On my G298F no lag and no overheats. @hayat55 hard reset your terminal and update it to the latest firmware via OTA, if not enough bring it to a customer service and keep your GS6+.
Regards
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Samsung WON'T honor the warranty because it is only valid in ASIA. I LIVE IN THE UK

Not had 1 problem with heating and had no lag since I got phone on release. Best Samsung yet just a shame it looks like we not going to get much developing action. I lime flashing new roms and with this phone it ain't gonna happen anytime soon

hayat55 said:
Samsung WON'T honor the warranty because it is only valid in ASIA. I LIVE IN THE UK
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One classic reason when I make such an expensive purchase is to ensure I have customer protection.
If you think about this no UK shop or outlet will willingly touch your phone as you have not made the purchase through them, however, .........unless Samsung has changed its policy you will find your phone has an international warranty. THE problem for you will be finding a Samsung outlet that will deal with your mobile. The problems are compounded as nearly all outlets use one technical shop to repair all their mobiles, don't think for one second when any Mobile goes wrong it is returned to the importer its not. iPhone maybe the one exception?
May I suggest you contact Samsung UK directly and request assistance. They may either request you send them your phone or give you the name of an outlet where your phone can be examined for problems.
I live in Southern Europe and very often the mobiles here are vastly more expensive than they are in Amazon.de, for example. On times I will take a chance as Amazon have a cast iron reputable returns policy. Other times if the financial difference is small I suck it up and purchase here. I bought my Edge+ here to avoid return problems.
One thing you will always need is your dated receipt and on said receipt it must have the serial number or IMEI of the mobile. I doubt you will find much joy with dealing with outlets etc as they have not made a profit on the sale.
Samsung UK may even be 'grumpy' about it BUT I am confident if you get to a person who knows the law and is a decent enough member of staff they will help you. Hey, I purchase such items here sometimes have a problem and call the UK office and they have, to date, always answered my questions. Do NOT let the switchboard operator prevent you from speaking to the service or customer relations department.
I know for sure such international companies used to include in the box an international warranty, Sony certainly still do even listing world wide head offices for customers to contact. I cant recall if Samsung now include in the box such a warranty?
One thing for sure this mobile is a bloomin good one. I often purchase four mobiles a year I have now the S6, S6 Edge+, iPhone 6, Sony Xperia Z2 and Ultra etc. Though I have found all those mentioned to be superb mobiles the Samsung's appear to have developed extremely fast in a very short space of time. Hell, this Edge+ is micro engineered like a Swiss watch. Gone are those awful days of plastic metals and plastic leather etc.
Oh. I guess you could pay DHL or UPS and have it returned to the shop of origin, Postal cost would be about £10 to £15.00? Only enclose a photo copy of your receipt.
Let us know what progress you make. I do hope you resolve your situation. Best of luck. :highfive:
Ryland

Ryland Johnson said:
One classic reason when I make such an expensive purchase is to ensure I have customer protection.
If you think about this no UK shop or outlet will willingly touch your phone as you have not made the purchase through them, however, .........unless Samsung has changed its policy you will find your phone has an international warranty. THE problem for you will be finding a Samsung outlet that will deal with your mobile. The problems are compounded as nearly all outlets use one technical shop to repair all their mobiles, don't think for one second when any Mobile goes wrong it is returned to the importer its not. iPhone maybe the one exception?
May I suggest you contact Samsung UK directly and request assistance. They may either request you send them your phone or give you the name of an outlet where your phone can be examined for problems.
I live in Southern Europe and very often the mobiles here are vastly more expensive than they are in Amazon.de, for example. On times I will take a chance as Amazon have a cast iron reputable returns policy. Other times if the financial difference is small I suck it up and purchase here. I bought my Edge+ here to avoid return problems.
One thing you will always need is your dated receipt and on said receipt it must have the serial number or IMEI of the mobile. I doubt you will find much joy with dealing with outlets etc as they have not made a profit on the sale.
Samsung UK may even be 'grumpy' about it BUT I am confident if you get to a person who knows the law and is a decent enough member of staff they will help you. Hey, I purchase such items here sometimes have a problem and call the UK office and they have, to date, always answered my questions. Do NOT let the switchboard operator prevent you from speaking to the service or customer relations department.
I know for sure such international companies used to include in the box an international warranty, Sony certainly still do even listing world wide head offices for customers to contact. I cant recall if Samsung now include in the box such a warranty?
One thing for sure this mobile is a bloomin good one. I often purchase four mobiles a year I have now the S6, S6 Edge+, iPhone 6, Sony Xperia Z2 and Ultra etc. Though I have found all those mentioned to be superb mobiles the Samsung's appear to have developed extremely fast in a very short space of time. Hell, this Edge+ is micro engineered like a Swiss watch. Gone are those awful days of plastic metals and plastic leather etc.
Oh. I guess you could pay DHL or UPS and have it returned to the shop of origin, Postal cost would be about £10 to £15.00? Only enclose a photo copy of your receipt.
Let us know what progress you make. I do hope you resolve your situation. Best of luck. :highfive:
Ryland
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I say get a squaretrade warranty and be done with it.

I have decided that i used my Note more than i thought, i thought that i didnt want the s-pen but it seems i miss it and used it more than i thought i did. I randomly find myself reaching for it and to no avail its not there lol. This is a grea fast phone with the best display on the market but im going back to a Note.