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I am a very picky phone owner, let me just say that right away. I always have a different phone cause I need to have the latest and greatest. After having the moto x I truly feel as if this is the best overall phone out right now for me.
The s4 was just too damn big and I felt like I always need to use both hands to do anything. Sure the camera was nice but it my daily use its not as big a difference as people make it out too be. Battery was OK, but my x is way better!!
The htc one def has the nicest screen out. But unless your staring at both of these phones side by side the difference is negligible. The camera on the one was absolutely horrible no matter what the conditions! Blurry and over processed colors. Battery life was good but again the x is way better.
I think that overall for what I use the phone for, the x is gonna be with me for a while. I love the size!!! Feel perfect, a good size screen and yet I don't need two hands to always use it. The active notifications are awesome!! Screen is good for me, I'm not one to purposely stare at the screen to try and see if I can see pixels etc. Battery life is awesome, I'm easily getting 4+ hours of screen on time. The camera is not nearly as bad as most reviews report, in my findings. Yes the s4 is better but the moto x holds its own!
I'd like more dev support cause I'm a crackflasher. I'm sure it will come. But if it doesn't happen I'm OK with it because the phone is pretty much the way I'd want a ROM to be anyways.
^^^^ i agree
^^^^^^ I agree x2
As someone who was a hardcore flashaholic this is the first phone I've had that I don't feel the need to immediately load a new ROM onto.
Agreed - I've had tons of android phones (G1, G2, evo and evo 3d, moto backflip, droid and droid 3, galaxy S2, nexus 1, nexus S, gnex, and even the kyocera echo), but once I went to an iphone 5, I swore I'd never go back.
Once ios7 was out though, android started looking more appealing to me again. Moto X is the phone that brought me back! I've gone to the store multiple times to play with the GS4 and the HTC one, but I could never pull the trigger.
The Moto X is the phone that brought me back to android. I love it
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I am a very picky phone owner, let me just say that right away. I always have a different phone cause I need to have the latest and greatest. After having the moto x I truly feel as if this is the best overall phone out right now for me.
The s4 was just too damn big and I felt like I always need to use both hands to do anything. Sure the camera was nice but it my daily use its not as big a difference as people make it out too be. Battery was OK, but my x is way better!!
The htc one def has the nicest screen out. But unless your staring at both of these phones side by side the difference is negligible. The camera on the one was absolutely horrible no matter what the conditions! Blurry and over processed colors. Battery life was good but again the x is way better.
I think that overall for what I use the phone for, the x is gonna be with me for a while. I love the size!!! Feel perfect, a good size screen and yet I don't need two hands to always use it. The active notifications are awesome!! Screen is good for me, I'm not one to purposely stare at the screen to try and see if I can see pixels etc. Battery life is awesome, I'm easily getting 4+ hours of screen on time. The camera is not nearly as bad as most reviews report, in my findings. Yes the s4 is better but the moto x holds its own!
I'd like more dev support cause I'm a crackflasher. I'm sure it will come. But if it doesn't happen I'm OK with it because the phone is pretty much the way I'd want a ROM to be anyways.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one. MOTO X is nice.
This phone with a few tweaks with Xposed is really really great. Battery is stellar. The camera is not the best however once the software is fixed it will be fine. The only thing I'm missing is t9 dialer. I'll find a way to push the CM apk.
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mpetruzz said:
I am a very picky phone owner, let me just say that right away. I always have a different phone cause I need to have the latest and greatest. After having the moto x I truly feel as if this is the best overall phone out right now for me.
The s4 was just too damn big and I felt like I always need to use both hands to do anything. Sure the camera was nice but it my daily use its not as big a difference as people make it out too be. Battery was OK, but my x is way better!!
The htc one def has the nicest screen out. But unless your staring at both of these phones side by side the difference is negligible. The camera on the one was absolutely horrible no matter what the conditions! Blurry and over processed colors. Battery life was good but again the x is way better.
I think that overall for what I use the phone for, the x is gonna be with me for a while. I love the size!!! Feel perfect, a good size screen and yet I don't need two hands to always use it. The active notifications are awesome!! Screen is good for me, I'm not one to purposely stare at the screen to try and see if I can see pixels etc. Battery life is awesome, I'm easily getting 4+ hours of screen on time. The camera is not nearly as bad as most reviews report, in my findings. Yes the s4 is better but the moto x holds its own!
I'd like more dev support cause I'm a crackflasher. I'm sure it will come. But if it doesn't happen I'm OK with it because the phone is pretty much the way I'd want a ROM to be anyways.
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How is the video recording? Have you used it to record any concerts with bass? I'm about to get the X in November. How does it record in comparison to the HTC One? I heard the One has really good speakers and recording.. Thanks!
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I agree. I also tend to always have the latest and greatest and waffle between ios and android. Most recently I came from the HTC One Developer Edition and although I really liked that phone the Moto X is much better for me. The ergonomics are just great, not much bigger than an iphone 5, and the battery is very good. The active notifications are just brilliant and with them I rarely need to use the power button, just a quick swipe and I'm were I need to be. Killer phone.
Agreed. I had the HTC One and then the GS4 Active shortly after that and now I have the Moto X. This thing runs circles around both those phones in every regard. Don't miss a single thing about either of them.
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Yeah same here. Best phone I've ever owned. I got over 5 hrs screen on today with 25% left. Came from the HTC one and no regrets. Haven't rooted Yet, probably won't. Exposed framework looks interesting though.
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Im also very picky in how I like my phone look and function both hardware/software. im still waiting for my moto x to get unlocked But so far I still need a new ROM.
Need to remove att garbage
Need quick toggles to be customizable. Add WiFi tethering/ flashlight etc. Also don't like how single click takes you to the menu on a specific toggle instead holding it toggles the feature.
Would like paranoid ROM, halo is a nice feature I got used to on my nexus 4
Id settle for quick toggles fix and halo (not that I have a choice) STOP SAYING YOU DONT NEED ROMS!!
That being said I like how minimalistic (ROM) Motorola is now and see myself buying more of their devices. Personally hate Samsung galaxy series. There is no need for a physical buttons on screen is the way to go.
Hope the moto x gets some good people working on Roms. I love the size of this phone and really want to stop jumping from phone to phone chasing that perfect combination. But my guess is the grass will always seems to be greener on the other side......nexus 5.
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Elsnake, I never said that I don't need ROMs. I said that I would like Dev support, once some issues get worked out. But I also said that I'm OK if we stay with the level of mods we have now.
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According to cnn it is the best android phone
http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/08/technology/moto-x/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Still getting used to the smaller screen from my S4 GPe. Just got the moto x on Tuesday so gonna stick with it for a few weeks.
If I HAD to decide today I would go back to my S4. Which is why I committed to at least two weeks. We'll see.
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Still getting used to the smaller screen from my S4 GPe. Just got the moto x on Tuesday so gonna stick with it for a few weeks.
If I HAD to decide today I would go back to my S4. Which is why I committed to at least two weeks. We'll see.
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Would you mind elaborating as to why. Thx
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Would you mind elaborating as to why. Thx
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The icons and fonts are much smaller than a s4 screen. Especially when you factor in the on screen buttons the actual usable screen is much less than than I was expecting. In fact I am not to sure if it is much bigger than my iPhone 5.
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After soft bricking my GS4, I had to get a new phone while i work on that. I had been eyeing the Moto X and it was cheap. But now that i have been playing with it for a few days, its great. For me the Software is great, I love the voice commands, coming from an iphone i sorely missed siri and I feel that Moto X realy handles this better then the GS4.
As for hardware, I miss my GS4. The bigger screen was nice, and I loved the IR blaster.
If I could get the Moto X Rom on to the GS4 ( after I unbrick it) that would be ideal.
I've been looking at this phone but the fact is Nexus 5 will be a better device in terms of hardware, software and future updates.
Also I love the people here saying this is the best phone they've ever used. I think they copy paste that from their post on their prior phones.
I'm sure moto x is a great phone but its momentary. When you get your next phone that'll be the best one yet.
Prove me wrong, keep your moto x for 1 year and I'll be impressed. Doubt many of you in this forum will do that.
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Coming from the Note 2 (and about every phone before that) I'm happy with my decision.
Something definitely feels off the first two days transitioning from the Note 2. Then I realized what it is: I'm not holding a mini-tablet anymore.
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I've been looking at this phone but the fact is Nexus 5 will be a better device in terms of hardware, software and future updates.
Also I love the people here saying this is the best phone they've ever used. I think they copy paste that from their post on their prior phones.
I'm sure moto x is a great phone but its momentary. When you get your next phone that'll be the best one yet.
Prove me wrong, keep your moto x for 1 year and I'll be impressed. Doubt many of you in this forum will do that.
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Man, what an asshole comment!!!
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I'm on Verizon and have a stunningly good plan (4 people unlimited data $10 - $10 for all 4 combined) so I have to buy off market phones.
I had/have a GNEX that I use with 2 extended batteries. It's starting to show it's age but it's still useful. I also use a Nexus 7 so I don't really depend on the phone.
I jumped on the Moto X developer edition deal even though I really wanted a Note 3.
It's unquestionably better but I'm current suffering from buyers remorse. There's not a lot it can do that I couldn't already. It's nice that it integrates better with my car and while I don't use voice much I could see myself doing it more (apart from that really annoying loud confirmation beep).
IT seems smaller, partly because it is and partly because of the extended battery I was using but it makes the screen feel smaller. I'm worried about the battery life.
Just rambling though and welcome any comments.
What were you looking for it to do? You never said. There's not much a GNex can't do compared to any other Nexus device
Give it a week. These days, phones are so similar, it's hard not feel underwhelmed at first. Felt the same way about my Note 3 and Nexus 5 when I first got them. Moto X has features that you'll grow to love and use.
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Give it a week. These days, phones are so similar, it's hard not feel underwhelmed at first. Felt the same way about my Note 3 and Nexus 5 when I first got them. Moto X has features that you'll grow to love and use.
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I hope so! Had my phone for 4 days now, still don't know if I truly love this phone vs a nexus 5...
It feels great and is faster than my old S2, but the N5 was/is so tempting.
MotoX is solid and I am starting to like active notifications. It is the same size as my S2 which I love, but still ehh, maybe I will like something bigger...
Grass is always greener right?
It's not surprising you feel buyer's remorse. You wanted a Note 3, which is much larger than the Moto X. I went from a Gnex to a Nexus 4 which is slightly larger, and then to a Moto X which is smaller but has the same screen size as the Nexus 4. Apart from the size, going from Gnex to Moto X should feel like a pretty good upgrade as Moto X is better than Gnex in almost every respect.
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I don't understand what the OP was thinking. Moto X over the Note 3? They're 2 different phones that serve two different purposes. If you mostly use the Nexus 7, then what was the point in upgrading? If you simply had a itch to scratch, going to the store and toying around is infinitely better than this situation.
I have a Nexus 7 and now a Moto X and love the combination of the 2 together. I came from a Note 2 which was a great phone but I found my self wanting it to be larger and at the same time wanting it to be smaller. Multimedia is great now on my Nexus 7 and my Moto X is the perfect phone to compliment the tablet. I had a Nexus 5 but returned it for the Moto X and am glad that I did (not knocking the Nexus 5 because it is probably the 2nd best phone being sold now imo).
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I don't understand what the OP was thinking. Moto X over the Note 3? They're 2 different phones that serve two different purposes. If you mostly use the Nexus 7, then what was the point in upgrading? If you simply had a itch to scratch, going to the store and toying around is infinitely better than this situation.
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Try $350 over $759 ? At $750 I was not going to buy a new phone. When the Moto X deal came out I got excited and jumped on it
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I don't understand what the OP was thinking. Moto X over the Note 3? They're 2 different phones that serve two different purposes. If you mostly use the Nexus 7, then what was the point in upgrading? If you simply had a itch to scratch, going to the store and toying around is infinitely better than this situation.
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Exactly...not even close to being the same phones. First of all the Nexus was a piece of garbage, battery reception etc...X is a million times better in every way.
Seems like a bait thread to start a flame war. Bye
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Exactly...not even close to being the same phones. First of all the Nexus was a piece of garbage, battery reception etc...X is a million times better in every way.
Seems like a bait thread to start a flame war. Bye
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Wait... you say something inflammatory like "Nexus was a piece of garbage" and then say someone is baiting to start a flame war? Holy hipocrisy, Batman.
I think "ramblings" fits the original post well, though, since nothing about it is coherent.
There's nothing on it that you couldn't already do? Well, except for, you know, some of the main selling points like always-on voice control and active notifications. Anyway, there's arguably nothing meaningful on any phone you couldn't, in some way or another, already do.
Then a couple weird comments... It makes the screen feel smaller? The screen is not smaller. If it feels smaller, but isn't smaller, isn't that good? You're worried about battery life, but supply no reason why you are concerned?
Nothing wrong with rambling, I guess, but just be aware that people might look at this as bashing a phone without any substantive reason.
I love many things about the Moto X, but the Active Notifications feature is a game changer. After getting used to it I just can't imagine going back to another phone.
I had a Nexus 5, but went back to the Moto X. I also have a LG G2. I really like the X because of the active notifications and touchless controls. It also gives you somewhat of the vanilla android experience.
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Ha. I'll tell ya a few things the moto x can do the gnex couldn't:
Hold a signal. Ha. For real.
Make it through a day without a recharge
Active Notifications
Hold a signal.
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Ha. I'll tell ya a few things the moto x can do the gnex couldn't:
Hold a signal. Ha. For real.
Make it through a day without a recharge
Active Notifications
Hold a signal.
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How about...not feel slow, hah.
It's like upgrading computers back in the day, from a good ol 500mhz pentium to a 1ghz pentium. Sure, they perform all the same functions, but it moves so much more quickly and smoothly.
You're all so nice
I had no problems with GNex, no signal problems, no battery issues + I had an extended battery. Even last week I did not feel it was slow.
Moto X is definitely better, but my question (for me) is whether it's $400 better. Since I use the N7 for most stuff I'm not sure I need to spend $400 on a phone. Active Notifications are cool but I don't find them all that useful. I had an app for it before and quickly stopped using it. I think it's to do with how I use the phone. Voice Control is nice and I've been trying to use it but it's not really my nature to talk to my phone
Perhaps the best thing about it, and perhaps the reason I will keep it, is that it integrates really well with my new car. This means I am not using Assist but it's worth it since it will interrupt radio and other things with text messages, read them out and let me auto reply. GNex just did calls and audio.
I really like Assist for driving but it's not getting used.
Screen seems smaller means that the actual screen seems small to me, it's a visual thing based on having a larger phone. Having more trouble typing on it for some reason, again probably because I'm used to the bigger feel.
Battery life will be key since I used a large extended battery and carried a spare. Rarely used the spare but did sometimes.
So don't get too defensive, it's a better phone, just not sure if I want to spend the money.
I find this threat to be somewhat useful amd amusing for a couple of reasons. First, the devices I have owned:
1 OG Droid--First with GPS/Google Maps, and my first smartphone. For me, ground-breaking
2 Galaxy Nexus--Mt first Nexus device. Face unlock is new, and performance is a major, major jump over my OG Droid, and the OG was rooted and rom'ed. GNex rooted, until warranty replacement 6 months ago. Stock since.
Nexus 7 wifi tablet (2013)--tethered to GNex
3 Moto-X VZW Developer Edition-- Faster than the GNex, by far. Much, much better battery. Seemingly smaller dev community support, but smoother out of the box than my best days with the GNex rom'ed. NFC unlock (as soon as my skip arrives with wife's MotoMaker). Active notifications. Quick camera unlock (wrist twist). Always listening feature for Google Now/Search. Unexpected quick upgrade to 4.4,
So, yes the phone is better in all respects than the GNex it replaces, but the gap in performance between the OG Droid and the GNex is LARGER than the gap in performance between the GNex and the Mot0-X, in my opinion.
I've only had this Moto-X for 4 days so far. I like that the bootloader is unlocked, AND I still have some warranty protection. Though the screen size is the same as the GNEX (I think), the Moto-X fits in the hand better (for me), and in the pocket as well (lighter, thinner).
I also see more bars of 4G LTE with the Moto-X, though I doubt the bars are an accurate measure of reception. I do know that Motorola radios are typically heralded as among the best.
So far, I am thrilled with this device.
vespadaddy, I've followed the EXACT same path as you OG, GNex, N7, MotoX. So I know you know what I am talking/rambling about
Do you use bluetooth in the car? I'm finding the MotoX is having problems the GNex didn't.
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vespadaddy, I've followed the EXACT same path as you OG, GNex, N7, MotoX. So I know you know what I am talking/rambling about
Do you use bluetooth in the car? I'm finding the MotoX is having problems the GNex didn't.
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In moved from the N4 to the moto x and am quite pleased!
And don't forget, the moto x doesn't have to be $400 better than the galaxy nexus. The moto x is $250 better...because you can sell your GN for $150ish!
Typically I do sell gear but I had planned to keep the GNex just in case as a backup (my son has one also and he's likely to break his). I might find some media player use for it also.
I had thought of it in a similar way. I get to keep my super plan and it would have cost me at least $200 to get a new device and lose my plan.
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vespadaddy, I've followed the EXACT same path as you OG, GNex, N7, MotoX. So I know you know what I am talking/rambling about
Do you use bluetooth in the car? I'm finding the MotoX is having problems the GNex didn't.
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Ruh roh. I do use bluetooth in the car. I've got a Mitsubishi with a stock bluetooth-capable stereo. Given that the Nexus 7 is so much snappier than the GNex, I have been using the Nexus as my music source in the car, via bluetooth.
Are you having problems pairing the Moto-X? I have not yet tried this, as my wife left the car in an airport lot for a work trip. As soon as she brings it back (likely tomorrow), I'll try and pai my Moto X and see how google music works.
Dev Edition. Woot. Again. I talked to motorola after sending back my old one. The microphone just stopped working and they would not do an exchange. They agreed to help, but couldn't give me the sale price any more so they offered me 70 bucks in free accessories. Woot
Reveal case and Dock here I come. Ugh...so glad to be sending back the nexus 5. Moto x ftw.
Anyone else have a slightly stiff power button? I pray it is normal. lol
Yeah, I'd say my DE phone is pretty stiff on the buttons....especially compared to a GS3. Did you have a DE phone before? I couldn't recall....
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Dev Edition. Woot. Again. I talked to motorola after sending back my old one. The microphone just stopped working and they would not do an exchange. They agreed to help, but couldn't give me the sale price any more so they offered me 70 bucks in free accessories. Woot
Reveal case and Dock here I come. Ugh...so glad to be sending back the nexus 5. Moto x ftw.
Anyone else have a slightly stiff power button? I pray it is normal. lol
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Root, gravity box with the sleep menu in the drop down setting + active notifications. You'll never have to use your power button again... But it becomes a habit after a long time using the power button to turn on and off the phone.
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Root, gravity box with the sleep menu in the drop down setting + active notifications. You'll never have to use your power button again... But it becomes a habit after a long time using the power button to turn on and off the phone.
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Ahhhh Gravity Box. Honestly I don't know how it hasn't became the best thing in android. IMHO it's THE best thing.
Good idea! Yeah I really missed the active stuff... It really needs to became a stock android thing. Just like touchless.
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Yeah, I'd say my DE phone is pretty stiff on the buttons....especially compared to a GS3. Did you have a DE phone before? I couldn't recall....
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Yeah. DE all the way man. I don't want some ghetto AT&T logo making my phone look like garbage
welcome back ! why did u send ur N5 ? how do u compare them , cause im very hesitating between N5 and Moto X !
thanks in advance!
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welcome back ! why did u send ur N5 ? how do u compare them , cause im very hesitating between N5 and Moto X !
thanks in advance!
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I have both.
N5 if you like to flash stuff and want raw power, X if you want exclusive Moto features and probably the better quality phone.
They are pretty similar in most other categories.
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kj2112 said:
I have both.
N5 if you like to flash stuff and want raw power, X if you want exclusive Moto features and probably the better quality phone.
They are pretty similar in most other categories.
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yeah im a bit worried in terms of build quality , how do they compare, i mean is the moto way ahead ?
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yeah im a bit worried in terms of build quality , how do they compare, i mean is the moto way ahead ?
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Nah, they're fairly similar. If the exclusive Moto features aren't a concern....I think the devices are fairly equal. I'm even matching my Moto x battery life....tho I run very lean and mean.
Size is another difference. The n5 feels bigger in hand for sure. Not weight, but dimensions.
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I could use either one, but missed all the development, so gave wife my x, I have the n5.
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matching moto x's battery life with stock setup ?
thanks its very helpful !
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matching moto x's battery life with stock setup ?
thanks its very helpful !
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Not really stock. Slimkat, bricked kernel. Everything pretty much off. Greenified, etc. Same as I did with the x tho.
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kj2112 said:
I have both.
N5 if you like to flash stuff and want raw power, X if you want exclusive Moto features and probably the better quality phone.
They are pretty similar in most other categories.
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I agree 100%. I had both for a while, ended up keeping the X instead. I definitely miss flashing stuff all day but I just don't have the time. I spend too much time on xda as it stands
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
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Nah, they're fairly similar. If the exclusive Moto features aren't a concern....I think the devices are fairly equal. I'm even matching my Moto x battery life....tho I run very lean and mean.
Size is another difference. The n5 feels bigger in hand for sure. Not weight, but dimensions.
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I could use either one, but missed all the development, so gave wife my x, I have the n5.
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Looks like the creator of omnirom has figured oqut how to use the snapdragon 800 processor on the n5 to have touch less control... Still in beta be on the lookout. Along with dynamic notifications you got yourself the moto x on the n5.
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Looks like the creator of omnirom has figured oqut how to use the snapdragon 800 processor on the n5 to have touch less control... Still in beta be on the lookout. Along with dynamic notifications you got yourself the moto x on the n5.
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Call me old fashioned, but I'm liking the led notification light. With light flow app I've changed colors for different notifications and what not. Pretty cool.
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welcome back ! why did u send ur N5 ? how do u compare them , cause im very hesitating between N5 and Moto X !
thanks in advance!
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Better feel in hand, solid feel. MUCH BETTER SPEAKER. I mean my god. Feels just as fast as the N5. Screen isn't as sharp...BUT you get AMOLED colors, which I love.
Battery life is GOD LIKE at least for me. Moto x is much better
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Better feel in hand, solid feel. MUCH BETTER SPEAKER. I mean my god. Feels just as fast as the N5. Screen isn't as sharp...BUT you get AMOLED colors, which I love.
Battery life is GOD LIKE at least for me. Moto x is much better
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Every time I come closer to deciding I see another point of view...X)
I really like the X but I in Europe there is only the unlocked version no DE ,no moto maker , and for the same price .plus the lenovo deal is really worrying me I really like moto under Google's lead ...what do you guys think ?
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Every time I come closer to deciding I see another point of view...X)
I really like the X but I in Europe there is only the unlocked version no DE ,no moto maker , and for the same price .plus the lenovo deal is really worrying me I really like moto under Google's lead ...what do you guys think ?
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I don't have an unlocked version I'm on at&t. I came from a 32 gig gs4 to a 16 gig moto x. I do admit there's times when I wish I had more gigs because I would love to keep more music on my device for maybe going to the gym or on car rides, but I have Pandora so that compensates for that. The things I love is active notifications, coming from an iPhone where you had your notifications on the lock screen its really useful in the end, paired up with touch less control saying what's up? And it reads your messages for you. On the nexus 5 you have to be on the homescreen and you have to have the Google now launcher to use the "OK Google" voice command. On moto x it has touch less control with the phone off you can just say "OK Google now" and it responds.. Say I'm driving and here in California its illegal to text and drive and I need directions or need to text or make a call touch less control helps with that. Also active assist is awesome! While your driving if you get an incoming text or call it will read your message to you and you can respond back or pick up a call for you. Pair this up with great headphones with a mic and your good to go. I'm using my gs4 headphones and it works great with it.
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Every time I come closer to deciding I see another point of view...X)
I really like the X but I in Europe there is only the unlocked version no DE ,no moto maker , and for the same price .plus the lenovo deal is really worrying me I really like moto under Google's lead ...what do you guys think ?
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As far as my experience with the N5 and Moto X, I prefer the Moto X for a few variables. Of course, the big things that appealed to me in general with the first few hours of usage was the quality over the Nexus 5. Specifically the phone's speaker and sound card. Also, the phone takes less work in order to maximize battery. I ran stock rooted for the first few months I owned my Moto X until I saw Faux make his kernel, and that is the only reason I decided to even flash. Other than that, I just enjoy an AOSP experience with a few extra add on that makes the phone a much more pleasurable experience.
As far as 1080P resolution vs 720P resolution, I've always wanted manufacturers to opt for 720P as I understand the screen is a bit clearer, but you gain so much more battery life!
Driving Mode/Driving Assist is one of the biggest features for me as I drive quite a bit with incoming text being read out to me, and allowing me to respond back via my voice. As well as the ability to just continue driving, and suddenly your device plays your current music from your specified app that you prefer music to stream from!
The biggest thing that Moto X has to offer is the fact that this phone is the closest thing to AOSP with extra goodies that make the phone unnecessary to root, unless you're a flashaholic, which you are still able to with this phone. Just overall, this phone is a +3 more on a scale of 1 to 10 of N5 experience.
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As far as my experience with the N5 and Moto X, I prefer the Moto X for a few variables. Of course, the big things that appealed to me in general with the first few hours of usage was the quality over the Nexus 5. Specifically the phone's speaker and sound card. Also, the phone takes less work in order to maximize battery. I ran stock rooted for the first few months I owned my Moto X until I saw Faux make his kernel, and that is the only reason I decided to even flash. Other than that, I just enjoy an AOSP experience with a few extra add on that makes the phone a much more pleasurable experience.
As far as 1080P resolution vs 720P resolution, I've always wanted manufacturers to opt for 720P as I understand the screen is a bit clearer, but you gain so much more battery life!
Driving Mode/Driving Assist is one of the biggest features for me as I drive quite a bit with incoming text being read out to me, and allowing me to respond back via my voice. As well as the ability to just continue driving, and suddenly your device plays your current music from your specified app that you prefer music to stream from!
The biggest thing that Moto X has to offer is the fact that this phone is the closest thing to AOSP with extra goodies that make the phone unnecessary to root, unless you're a flashaholic, which you are still able to with this phone. Just overall, this phone is a +3 more on a scale of 1 to 10 of N5 experience.
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I agree! i don't wh it feels like the moto x's forums r dead ! what do u think of the build quality between both ?cameras ?
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I agree! i don't wh it feels like the moto x's forums r dead ! what do u think of the build quality between both ?cameras ?
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I'd take a snippet for you for each of the cameras but all in all. To stack up against each other, I find that the iPhone 5S camera is superior to the mobile world, aside from the Note 3's camera which is INSANE! But comparison of the N5, Moto X, and 5S. I think that the 5S > Moto X > N5. I agree the N5 camera is good, but it doesn't capture as much true colors as I find that it struggles to carry colors. I'd take the Moto X's camera any day, it's just consistent and the colors are generally quite close to my DSLR I use.
As far as build quality, hands down again, the Moto X takes the steals vs the N5! But compared to the iPhone 5S, I'm not sure, because the two are made out of two completely different material, and I find that I like metal phones, but it's not as a big of a deal with the Moto X because I enjoy the experience very much!
I think these forums feels dead, because there are very little users on it anyways. It's not that it's a bad phone, but it wasn't a popular phone either because many of my mobile friends weren't interested in it for the fact that it lacked in hardware, and they don't care for the software very much. Or they find that they prefer the hardware over software. I feel that people haven't given this phone a chance to impress them is all. All well! I hope the next Moto generates a lot of commotion, because it is in my honest opinion, the best phone of Android hands down. Simplistic, and it just works!
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Do you guys think there'll be a surge of orders from Nexus users who don't want to upgrade to a phone as big as the Nexus 6?
The new Moto X is the closest to a Nexus phone now (not phablet).
I think it's more likely that they stick with the Nexus 5 and pray Google comes back down to earth next year. I can't imagine that releasing a 5.9" phone as your one and only is going to pay off.
Yeah, I think the Moto X might pick of a few Nexus users (myself included) if the next Nexus device really only offers a 6" screen. But I suspect the reasons people want a Nexus device go deeper than that. The 1st Gen. Moto X got almost no development. If you want the roms and the hacks and all that, nothing is like the Nexus (and the Moto X is far from 2nd runner up, in terms of amount of development). So the near stock rom on the Moto X is a bit of a mirage. I'm still not sure I'm ready to make the jump and lose out on the development options (as well as the increased control and potential privacy offered by something like Cyanogen, over any manufacturer maintained rom).
Also the price on the Nexus has always been at least $100 lower than what a Moto X goes for. That's going to be a big deciding factor. Nothing talks like money.
But for people who aren't into the roms and just like the stock Android experience and don't care about price so much, maybe some of them will jump ship from the Nexus.
Severely doubt a 5.92" screen... 5.2" is more likely. Otherwise, the other released and confirmed specs look good. Just depends on battery life for me.
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Severely doubt a 5.92" screen... 5.2" is more likely. Otherwise, the other released and confirmed specs look good. Just depends on battery life for me.
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Literally everything is pointing to a 5.9" screen. No one is even acknowledging that a 5.2" device is even in the works any more. More likely the 5.2" phone everyone was talking about was the Droid Turbo.
Are the Nexus 5 and Moto X using the same size sim?
EDIT: Nope. Curses.
Yea cause I'm most likely one of them. I think the better speakers is what I want most. Weak speakers is the only thing I don't like about the Nexus
I hope I don't offend some people, but it seems a sizable percentage of Nexus people look down on the Moto X because they think it's an overpriced stock Android phone and think it cost too much. This is also true with OPO users. They think just because a phone use stock Android it automatically worth less. They don't take in consideration the difference in hardware design and add-on features. I just think installing CM on the X just take away all the great things about it.
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I hope I don't offend some people, but it seems a sizable percentage of Nexus people look down on the Moto X because they think it's an overpriced stock Android phone and think it cost too much. This is also true with OPO users. They think just because a phone use stock Android it automatically worth less. They don't take in consideration the difference in hardware design and add-on features. I just think installing CM on the X just take away all the great things about it.
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I was a Nexus 4 user, and why I got the Moto X is because my n4 was dying on me. Also, it's a nice phone, and the added hardware and software tweaks is worth enough for the price imo. I just want a clean stock experience, and that is why I like both the Nexus and Moto X
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Nexus user here - owned every Nexus phone since the original. I've picked up a Moto X simply because this year's Nexus is too large. But I agree with the analysis here - the X is a good substitute, but it isn't quite the same thing and I hope we won't see any negatives from that. If we don't get L pronto I will be complaining all over Twitter :crying:
I bought the nexus 5 first and the moto x after but sold my nexus 5 and used the moto x exclusively. My wife got a new iphone so now i'm using her nexus 5.
Things i like since moving to the Nexus 5
larger crisper screen.
snappier performance (very noticable) whether in games, browsing, and using google now voice commands, everything just comes quicker and faster.
willingness to take more pictures because it has a better camera
Things i REALLY miss from the moto X
Active display. LED light from N5 doesn't cut it for me anymore
Touchless controls. I can't wake my phone from sleep. I don't use it much but when I want to I can't with the N5
--mics Moto's mics are awesome. I don't have to raise my voice like I do with the N5 when using the OK google command.
* on the N5 i have the google voice detection turned on for all screens and it drains the battery a little more. When plugged in, i leave the screen on so I have somewhat of touchless control.
Speaker - The moto's speaker is super loud compared to the N5.
Moto Assist - I use "AGENT" for the N5 but it's just not the same. The text reading and replying is very similar but with the Moto's mics the experience is better on the moto, but agent works very well as an alternative. Incoming calls aren't read out loud to you in Agent but they are in Moto Assist. AGENT relies on connecting to a trusted device in order for drive mode to come on while moto assist is able to detect when you're driving even w/o connecting to the trusted bluetooth device.
Battery life - i consistently get an hour more of SOT time with the moto over the N5 with just about the exact same type of usage.
There are a few other quirks between the two but these are the major ones for me.
The Moto X 2014 seems to blend both of these phones together and that's why I'm really wanting it, despite the battery life complaints. If it's equal to or greater to the moto x 2013 I'll probably get it. ESPECIALLY if the moto nexus doesn't have the moto tweaks. I doubt it does but i'm holding onto that small sliver of hope it does. These moto enhancements are very very very usual and i wish Google would bake these into Android but then Moto wouldn't be as unique any longer.
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Things i REALLY miss from the moto X
Active display. LED light from N5 doesn't cut it for me anymore
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Dynamic Notifications is a nice substitute to use on the N5.
The N6/X at 5.9" is too big.
My take on it is that Motorola provides the nearest to Nexus experience (aside from GPE editions), with some extras in the sensors/software. The new Moto X is of the same hardware generation as the Nexus 5, so I think most will stick with the 5 unless they want a larger phone, and those will go to the 6 (which is about 1/2 generation newer if we believe the Snapdragon 805 [I almost called it a dragonball - now that will show my age in the mobile chip world] rumor). The phone jumpers will end up trying both the X and the 6, and may end up back at the 5.
I've been scratching my head between a Nexus 5 and Moto X to replace my work-supplied blackberry (company started to support Android in August) and think I am about to pull the trigger on the X. I thought about the M8 GPE, but holding both the new X and the M8 yesterday, the X definitely won out in-hand.
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Dynamic Notifications is a nice substitute to use on the N5.
I have an N5, OPO and Moto X 2014. The N6/X at 5.9" is too big.
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It's actually has some better features but it was ugly to look at from an angle since the n5 doesn't have the best viewing angles. Plus the turn screen on when pulling out of the pocket didn't work as well as the moto. Another feature I really like. Saves that power button.
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It's actually has some better features but it was ugly to look at from an angle since the n5 doesn't have the best viewing angles. Plus the turn screen on when pulling out of the pocket didn't work as well as the moto. Another feature I really like. Saves that power button.
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Also, the battery drain will be a little bit more since the n5 screen is LCD. Having an active display like feature is made for amoled screens if you want to conserve battery
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I'm considering the Moto X but I am waiting to see if a root method (an prefereably an easy way to unlock the bootloader like the first gen Moto X) appears for the non-pure edition devices. If that doesn't happen by January, I may just have to rock a stupidly huge device. Being able to root and customize/backup/automate to my heart's desire is the most important feature of a phone to me. Second is stock Android and fast updates (so obviously the Moto X meets that).
For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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wow you're still rocking it? You're a glutton for punishment.
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For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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Even after the most recent GPU update lol I still own mine and play with it occasionally
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wow you're still rocking it? You're a glutton for punishment.
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I know. Almost 3yrs at this point. But what was I gonna do? We have unlimited data on our two phones, and get a nice discount through my wife's work. And she travels in places like Kentucky and West Virginia so the Verizon coverage is a big deal. If it was just me I would've switched to T-Mobile already. So, considering that....what could I do but keep the Galaxy Nexus? I couldn't stand Samsung's crapware etc, and nothing else interested me. The new X is the first thing that seems like a real option.
I hope it lives up to my expectations.
My wife is still rocking a Motorola Droid Razr. If you think the Galaxy Nexus struggles to function now you should try her phone....she gave up before me, and she still uses a Blackberry Curve for work.
Which do you find more disappointing or will be more likely to keep you from getting the Nexus 6, the size or the price?
They made it 6 because they did not want itnto hurt moto x sales i guess and a phone in phablet section
Size!!! Because I think everyone can agree when I say that the specs are worth every top dollar except for the size...
The size is my favorite part. I don't think it's badly priced for what it brings to the table either.
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That was never an issue for the past two Nexus phones made by LG that had same sized LG counterparts.
They wanted a phablet so developers could develop for phablets. Why they did not also make a smaller Nexus 6 for the huge number of people who hate the size, I do not know, but I think their reasoning was stupid whatever it was.
that damn size.....OMG! worst move ever...
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The size is my favorite part. I don't think it's badly priced for what it brings to the table either.
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Yeah, I can live with the price. It would be nice if it's cheaper. But I don't buy a new phone every year, so I can scrape together the money for the awesome specs (much better specs than the Moto X).
But I just don't want a huge phablet. Super disappointing to me. My sense is that the majority of users don't want a phablet (they currently only make up 14% of the global market).
I do understand though that there are many people who like phablets and so for them the Nexus 6 is an amazing device, really the best Nexus device yet and the nicest design since the Nexus One (LG and Samsung just make cheap designs, as far as I'm concerned).
I'm gonna definitely have to say the price.. my bank account is crying right now:crying:
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that damn size.....OMG! worst move ever...
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Yeah, I'm with you on that. And nice to see someone from Berkeley!
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Yeah, I'm with you on that. And nice to see someone from Berkeley!
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Heyyyy
I was honestly hoping for a second set of handset with smaller size...heck, it did not even have to come with those killer specs. I just wanted an upgraded nexus 5 lol with maybe 5.5 inch to make my debute into the nexus line...now im caught in a loop about big devices
Price. But I don't care. Still gonna get it. Haha.
There's no reason it had to be 10.1mm thick at its deepest points. Other similar phones have spaced in identical or larger batteries in a significantly thinner frame.
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Heyyyy
I was honestly hoping for a second set of handset with smaller size...heck, it did not even have to come with those killer specs. I just wanted an upgraded nexus 5 lol with maybe 5.5 inch to make my debute into the nexus line...now im caught in a loop about big devices
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Yeah, I was definitely hoping there would be a second smaller Nexus 6. I would be happy with basically a Nexus version of the Moto X that it's based on, with the 5.2" screen. Although the OIS and the stereo speakers are nice, that's definitely an improvement over the Moto X. That said, I guess the best alternative for a smaller screen is the Moto X, though it will never get all the development and roms a Nexus device will have (the 1st Gen Moto X basically had no development).
Maybe you can just save your money and spend it at Moe's Books and Gordo's Burritos instead. There are more important things in life, right?
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There's no reason it had to be 10.1mm thick at its deepest points. Other similar phones have spaced in identical or larger batteries in a significantly thinner frame.
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I think because it's so thin at the edges, there's less space for the components, which have to be more in the middle, than with a phone that has one even thickness edge to edge. I'm pretty sure that's why the battery in the 2nd Gen Moto X is relatively small, even though it's a pretty large 5.2" screen device. It's not about thickness at the middle, it's about overall internal volume and geometry of the phone.
My Note 3 already feels a tiny bit small.....the extra screen size will be welcome. Especially with front facing stereo speakers. It's like my wifes HTC One M8 but much nicer. The Note 4 moved back to a rear facing single speaker.......screw that noise. Price? I'll be edge'ing up to the N6 so it won't matter.
Neither. When looking at the complete line up, starting from the Nexus 5, Moto x (2nd gen), Nexus 6, Nexus 9.. Google caters to all tastes. As for the price, it is STILL competitive considering specs and materials. Google+Motorola+HTC did a great job by having something for everyone.
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My Note 3 already feels a tiny bit small.....the extra screen size will be welcome. Especially with front facing stereo speakers. It's like my wifes HTC One M8 but much nicer. The Note 4 moved back to a rear facing single speaker.......screw that noise. Price? I'll be edge'ing up to the N6 so it won't matter.
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Yeah, it's a great upgrade from the Note 3. If you're already happy with that size phone, then there's nothing to complain about.
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Neither. When looking at the complete line up, starting from the Nexus 5, Moto x (2nd gen), Nexus 6, Nexus 9.. Google caters to all tastes. As for the price, it is STILL competitive considering specs and materials. Google+Motorola+HTC did a great job by having something for everyone.
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The Nexus 5 is a year old phone with year old specs. I do not count that as part of the current "lineup." It does not have a 64 GB option; it does not have 3 GB of RAM; it has last year's Snapdragon chipset with a slower CPU and GPU; it does not have Wifi Direct; it does not have stereo speakers; it has crappy noise cancellation. The Nexus 5 is a perfectly good phone, but it's last year's phone, and it's only going to get older and more out of date, while waiting for the next Nexus phone and hoping it has a smaller option.
The 2nd Gen Moto X is not a Nexus phone and will get zero development (like the 1st Gen Moto X). It will also be dependent on Motorola for Android updates, with inevitable (if hopefully short) delays, and will not work properly with direct updates from Google (which would disable the special Motorola features like active notifications and Moto voice). That definitely does not count as part of the Nexus lineup.
I think the only honest way to look at it is that the Nexus 6 is the new king of hill Nexus device. It has lots of great upgrades. It is one of the best phones currently out there. And if you don't like the screen size you are out of luck.
I agree with most of what you said, although the Nexus 5 is still and will probably be amazing for several upcoming months. Hell, I would reccommend people to upgrade to it - those that need an upgrade but are turned off by the Nexus 6.
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I agree with most of what you said, although the Nexus 5 is still and will probably be amazing for several upcoming months. Hell, I would reccommend people to upgrade to it - those that need an upgrade but are turned off by the Nexus 6.
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Yeah, the Nexus 5 is great (except for the crappy noise cancellation), no doubt about it. But it is a fary cry from the Nexus 6. It is in no way a smaller but otherwise equivalent device.
The size is just too damn big! Couldn't they stay at a 5" screen!
In another thread someone pointed to a more complex poll with more respondents on this question (size and price) at Reddit. So if you like voting in polls, here's another chance.
Poll:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1mLrlUA7RrwTE7n5_E0u3Kk9bD93QclhMT4pynNPh3BY/viewform?usp=send_form
Poll Results:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1mL...lhMT4pynNPh3BY/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm
Thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2jdr40/meta_nexus_device_poll_for_randroid/
Interestingly, despite have many more respondents, its results are similar to my poll.