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I'm going to be attending one of the biggest blogging conventions next week BlogHer 11 in San Diego. Samsung reached out to me with an offer to test drive the Galaxy Tab.Fedex delivered the Tab a couple hours ago. The Tab will be returned after testing,I purchased my TF on my own so my impressions and review will be objective.Looking forward to comparing the 2 in real life working situations and sharing my findings with you all.
Initial impressions? Galaxy Tab is light,very slim,build quality is excellent,charger goes together easily,cable is long. Screen quality is good but colors are somewhat oversaturated to my eye.
You can get a USB adapter from Samsung website, $20 USD. Interesting to see what can be connected to Samsung 10.1 using this accessory.
Unfortunately, the 7 inch Samsung will never be compatible with the USB adapter accessory. My Verizon Samsung 7 inch tablet is still Android 2.2 and I am very disappointed. Verizon is not doing anything to *encourage* Samsung tablet purchases with a data plan.
ASUS TF101 has the USB feature in the dock, e.g. two USB ports plus SD card slot. ASUS has not started shipping their USB adapter accessory for the tablet only.
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You can get a USB adapter from Samsung website, $20 USD. Interesting to see what can be connected to Samsung 10.1 using this accessory.
Unfortunately, the 7 inch Samsung will never be compatible with the USB adapter accessory. My Verizon Samsung 7 inch tablet is still Android 2.2 and I am very disappointed. Verizon is not doing anything to *encourage* Samsung tablet purchases with a data plan.
ASUS TF101 has the USB feature in the dock, e.g. two USB ports plus SD card slot. ASUS has not started shipping their USB adapter accessory for the tablet only.
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Evaluating both devices fairly,without fanboyish bias, doing the kinds of real work I normally do will be interesting. I love my TF but must admit my out of the box impression of the new G Tab is pretty favorable in terms of it's looks,weight and build quality.
The difficulty I would have is comparing them as tablets isn't quite right.
The Galaxy looks to have the advantage on the physical side with it's build quality and profile but the TF was always a "hybrid" concept and sacrifices have been made to make it a cheap dockable netbook replacement. So the TF is an incomplete package with out it's dock.
The Galaxy is not intended for the same use cases as the TF and it's seems unfair to compare it with a device that has a whole extra appendage.
So it's not quite comparing apples with apples. As a pure tablet the Galaxy looks to be the better of the two but does that make for a better overall experience or value for money proposition? I can't say.
At least we have choice in the market place
P.S - Cool job! Have fun with your review!
Yes, I am not bothered with looks.... It is how the two operate and run which what I am interested in.
I was going to purchase the 32GB Galaxy 10.1 here in the UK when released (early Aug) but no MicroSD made the decision to try the TF with Keyboard Dock.
Initially I am impressed with the fact the TF has more scope for hardware use and this is where the Galaxy 10.1 will have to come back in the running.
If you can show the Sammy as being the better of the two I will hand the TF over to my Wife and either take the 32GB or 64GB Sammy.
I have both a TF with keyboard dock and a 16gb Tab 10.1. I agree they are different animals, nothing beats the Tab for true portability in a tablet form factor. But if I'm going to be doing a lot of work (i.e. emails/docs/spreadsheets/etc.) the TF with the keyboard is my preference since I can type way faster and be more comfortable with the physical keyboard. The Tab 10.1 is the best pure tablet I've ever used, even like it better than my iPad.
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The difficulty I would have is comparing them as tablets isn't quite right.
The Galaxy looks to have the advantage on the physical side with it's build quality and profile but the TF was always a "hybrid" concept and sacrifices have been made to make it a cheap dockable netbook replacement. So the TF is an incomplete package with out it's dock.
The Galaxy is not intended for the same use cases as the TF and it's seems unfair to compare it with a device that has a whole extra appendage.
So it's not quite comparing apples with apples. As a pure tablet the Galaxy looks to be the better of the two but does that make for a better overall experience or value for money proposition? I can't say.
At least we have choice in the market place
P.S - Cool job! Have fun with your review!
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I agree whole heartedly with your thoughts,I would love to get my hands on the dock/keyboard for the Galaxy to make the comparision more of an orange against orange review. I think it will come down to what each user needs the tabletfor.I also think Kal-El being on the horizon should influence a lot of purchasing decisions.
Am enjoying the Galaxy Tab 10.1 as an e-reader, it's really light so holding the tab in one hand is not straining or uncomfortable. Also noticing that the sound quality is surprisingly good
can the Galaxy note 10.1 rom can be a Source for the ICS Rom for our GT 10.1?
Release Date of Galaxy Note 10.1 is unknown
ICS for Galaxy Tab 10.1 should be out by Q1
This means, most likely, that ICS made for Tab 10.1 will be out BEFORE galaxy Note 10.1
Catch my drift?
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can the Galaxy note 10.1 rom can be a Source for the ICS Rom for our GT 10.1?
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How would anyone here know this? The Galaxy Note 10.1 has yet to be finalized. My guess would be no.
I think the question here is not to get the Sgt note 10.1 rom to tab 10.1 for the sake of ICS which was already promised to be released, the issue is how possible is bringing the s-pen capabilities to the Sgt. if this happened, the note would be of no greater use even with better processor and micro SD port.
From what I can recall, the "pen" part needs an hardware sensor on the tab also, so without this sensor, the pen (and software) is useless
Anyway, any standard touch screen pen with TouchScreenTune would work just as well
The note has an exynos chipset so no.
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From what I can recall, the "pen" part needs an hardware sensor on the tab also, so without this sensor, the pen (and software) is useless
Anyway, any standard touch screen pen with TouchScreenTune would work just as well
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Yes, the Note series has special digitizer hardware from Wacom not present in non-Note devices.
given that the note 8 is pretty much just a shrunken down galaxy note 10.1 (and so is the g note 2) it pretty much proves that the 30 pin connector the gn10.1 an all the other galaxy tablets use is just a big money grab. there isn't a faster charge rate with the 30 pin vs the mUSB nor is transferring files any faster. it's possible that in the future the 30 pin will have some benefits (i doubt it since usb 3.0 is pretty dang nice), but for now mUSB cables are working pretty fine. i've never had a transfer saturate the USB 2.0 cable anyways.
for ref, my gn10.1 generally charged ~1600mAh and transferred files around 10MB/s through usb 2.0, same as my gn8, gn2 and s4.
The Note 8.0 is an over grown Note 2.0
The Note 10.1 is an overgrown Note 1.0
30 pin is dead, long live micro usb. The NEW tab 3s also use Micro USB.
30 pin was unreliable at anything more than 3 feet. Try finding a good 5 foot one for sync and charge at the same time.
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The Note 8.0 is an over grown Note 2.0
The Note 10.1 is an overgrown Note 1.0
30 pin is dead, long live micro usb. The NEW tab 3s also use Micro USB.
30 pin was unreliable at anything more than 3 feet. Try finding a good 5 foot one for sync and charge at the same time.
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Agree with you 100%:good:
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What are you talking about the note 2 and note.8.0 don't use.30 pin connectors. Do you even own either of these because if you did you'd know.
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If you reread the OP you will "hopefully" see that he is referring to the Note 10.0 and previous Samsung Tablets that had the 30 pin connector.
He is basically saying ( a month ago ) what everyone knew all along, that proprietary connectors are used mainly to get you to buy the same companies accessories. Cables, Docks ext.
Must say the micro usb connection was the thing that swayed me to sell my Note 10.1 and replace it with the Note 8.0. I use the 8 much more since its smaller and easier to carry around too.
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Must say the micro usb connection was the thing that swayed me to sell my Note 10.1 and replace it with the Note 8.0. I use the 8 much more since its smaller and easier to carry around too.
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I was actually on the verge of buying another 10.1 but decided to see what comes next. I hope it's gonna use musb and USB 3.0 since it'll charge faster via USB then. until those details pop up I'll hold on to the spare 30 pins I have.
I just bought a sero 7 pro and it's about the same size as the gn8. I haven't had a 7 in tablet in a while and iI'm surprised how usable they've become in the last 2 years. I also got my daughter a memo pad HD 7.
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I've had a Tab 10.1 since it's introduction in 2011. On an impulse, last Friday I purchased a Note 12.2 from Best Buy. I'm not real thrilled with the 12.2 behemoth. It's too heavy and unwieldy to hold and be comfortable. I'm taking it back. I've decided that 10.1 is the size for me.
So, I'm torn. Should I get the Note 10.1 (2014) or the Tab Pro? I want 32gb not 16gb so I'd have to wait for the Tab Pro version with 32Gb to be released (only the 16gb is being shipped now.)
If I get the Note 10.1 will I be buying older technology? Will it be laggy as some have said? What are the advantages/disadvantages of the Note 10.1 compared to the Tab Pro 10.1?
One thing I do like about the Note 12.2 is that the speakers are LOUD, something I didn't have with the Original Tab. Are the speakers good in the Note 10.1?
(Don't sell me on the pen, I won't use it. I had a Note 2 and now a Note 3 and the pen never comes out.)
Well, if you never use the pen, the tabPro may be for you. However, given the identical price points, the note 10.1 has better specs AND the added value of the spen, it may make the note a better overall value.
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We know for sure the N10.1-14 is getting both M-UX and 4.4. Since it's not a "Pro" it probably won't get the additional Pro features which are Hancom Office, 6 months of WebEx, SideSync 3.0, Remote PC, and e-Meeting. You can side load Hancom Office as explained in the apps sub-forum. You can download WebEx yourself so the value's in the six free months. Samsung's announced SideSync 3.0 is going to be free to all Samsung Android device owners. RSUPPORT makes Samsung's remote PC app and you can download it free from Play. So the only Pro "exclusive" is e-Meeting which only works with other Pro devices. So in the end, the N10.1-14 and Tab|Pro 10.1 will/can be almost identical s/w wise.
They are identical h/w wise with the exception being the N10.1-14 has an additional 1GB of RAM. But all the inking and S Pen related stuff you said you don't use probably consumes the extra memory. The N10.1-14 has a menu capacitive button which will probably be carried over in 4.4 so the new task button on the Tab|Pro is the only physical difference. The N10.1-14 with 4.4/M-UX and Tab|Pro 10.1 should perform exactly like the N12 you had because while the display on the latter's bigger the PPI's been reduced so all three are pushing an identical amount of pixels and use identical h/w.
So it comes down to availability and price. With the price being so similar between the N10.1-14 and Tab|Pro 10.1 I think a lot of people will go for the former; especially once the s/w's upgraded. I'd question the volume of Tab|Pro's sold at the iPad prices Samsung's asking so that could affect development support.
Good luck deciding...
Well, the Tab pro only has 2gb of ram compared to 3gb on the Note. The Note will get Kitkat soon. Processors seem to both be 1.9ghz. I'm not really seeing a difference here except for the pen. Personally I don't use the pen either and I also have a Note 3.
Ram is only relevent on having more apps open at the same time which is needed with notes multitasking abilities.
If u dont need the pen go ahead and get the tab pro. It has better gpu i believe.
S pen was a seller for me since i love it for use for school
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I've had a Tab 10.1 since it's introduction in 2011. On an impulse, last Friday I purchased a Note 12.2 from Best Buy. I'm not real thrilled with the 12.2 behemoth. It's too heavy and unwieldy to hold and be comfortable. I'm taking it back. I've decided that 10.1 is the size for me.
So, I'm torn. Should I get the Note 10.1 (2014) or the Tab Pro? I want 32gb not 16gb so I'd have to wait for the Tab Pro version with 32Gb to be released (only the 16gb is being shipped now.)
If I get the Note 10.1 will I be buying older technology? Will it be laggy as some have said? What are the advantages/disadvantages of the Note 10.1 compared to the Tab Pro 10.1?
One thing I do like about the Note 12.2 is that the speakers are LOUD, something I didn't have with the Original Tab. Are the speakers good in the Note 10.1?
(Don't sell me on the pen, I won't use it. I had a Note 2 and now a Note 3 and the pen never comes out.)
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I had the 12.2 from BB as well, went to the 8 which turned out to be too small so I'm getting the Note 10.1 2014. I will say though I sometimes miss that 12.2. Yes it was heavy, yes it was a bit awkward, but it really felt like a beast of a machine. It felt as if you could actually get stuff done on it versus just doing some browsing/reading. The Note 8 just has such tiny text in places and the UI elements on some things are just not designed for that resolution/screen size. The 10.1 seems like an ideal size, but if that 12.2 had cellular as an option (like my 10.1 will have) I probably would've kept it. Also, 16gb yes, it's not enough. With the note 8 I was getting low mem warnings and didn't really have it long, so 32gb would be the minimum.
You may want to think on that 12.2 a bit more. The 12.2 also has the USB 3.0 and the now standard button layout (across their pro line). The 10.1 will get upgraded, but who knows when and what that will actually look like. There's also the charging times. I've been reading about 6+ hour charge times fro the note 10.1-14, not sure about the 12.2, but with the USB 3 it probably charges faster.
To put it simply, if you plan on writing hand written notes, go with the the note. It's great for students or productivity. If not, get the tab. The specs are almost identical.
i have the 2014 note 10.1 and it is great - portable but still a good size - i buy too many devices and i went to purchase the pro 8.4 on sunday from best buy but they wouldnt sell it to me - told me it was not available for sale until this friday ( i was at the cashier with the tablet in my hand lol ) i guess that is a good thing cause i really wanted the 12.2 - i was going to buy that one as well when it arrived at best buy this friday ( i am in canada btw ) i think the 12.2 would be perfect i had the asus 18.4 android / windows 8 tablet before that was massive but the screen was not good - they should have not sold it with a 1080p screen with that size it didnt look good at all ! on a side note i have the lenovo yoga 2 pro windows 8 ultrabook and that has the best screen i have ever seen on laptop or tablet - really wish it was android rather then windows though then it would have been awesome instead of just great
I'll add my input. I bought the 8.4 on release day and used it for a week. Having a note 3, I thought the 8.4 was too close to the size and felt pointless to me. I am now using the note 10.1 2014. Bought it yesterday and was going to box it up and return it today and buy the 8.4 again. Lol. So here I am using the note still and actually liking it now. I want the 4.4 on this before I can really make a decision ( thank god for best buy elite). I felt the extra gig of ram was worth it for me as I felt the 8.4 was sluggish when I pushed it. My note 3 is a champ. Will I see a real difference I don't know.
I thought maybe getting the pro 10.1 but I figured for the ram and the pen IF I ever use it it's there and same price. Gosh don't we have such problems deciding on a tablet.
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The Note. It has triple the ram and the stylus with Wacom digitizer all for the same price. Sort of a no brainer imo. Not sure who would be the Tab Pro.
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The Note. It has triple the ram and the stylus with Wacom digitizer all for the same price. Sort of a no brainer imo. Not sure who would be the Tab Pro.
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It's 3Gb vs. 2Gb, that's not triple.
I do have Note 10.1 2014 since release day, great device. It doesn't take 6 hours to charge, and USB 3.0 does not make difference in charging. I got also the 8.4, to replace Note 8.0, nice combination of large screen for work and a smaller one for reading.
Ah, I keep thinking the Tab Pro only has 1gb. Don't know where my brain is.
Thanks for your replies. I returned the Note Pro 12.2 and purchased the Note 10.1 (2014). It feels much better albeit physically smaller than my original Tab 10.1.
I have the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 which charges and syncs using a USB 3 port. I have an old 1-gen Galaxy Tab 10.1 which use to read documents and sometimes read news like on my Note 3. Then I use these two devices while I travel I have to carry two chargers with me the old Samsung non-USB charger for my GT 10.1 and the USB 3 charger for my Note 3.
Some say that the only thing you get from buying this tablet insteed of Note 10.1 2014 is that the Note Pro 12.2 has the larger screen and the USB 3 port. Is that true? Regards if I buy the Note 10.1 2014, I still have to carry two chargers around with me a mini USB 2.0 an mini USB 3.0. What would you Guys surgest that I buy?
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I have the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 which charges and syncs using a USB 3 port. I have an old 1-gen Galaxy Tab 10.1 which use to read documents and sometimes read news like on my Note 3. Then I use these two devices while I travel I have to carry two chargers with me the old Samsung non-USB charger for my GT 10.1 and the USB 3 charger for my Note 3.
Some say that the only thing you get from buying this tablet insteed of Note 10.1 2014 is that the Note Pro 12.2 has the larger screen and the USB 3 port. Is that true? Regards if I buy the Note 10.1 2014, I still have to carry two chargers around with me a mini USB 2.0 an mini USB 3.0. What would you Guys surgest that I buy?
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I have both the note 3 and note pro, I personally like the extra few inches on screen because it is good for textbook reading and good for note taking. The note 10.1 2014 is a lot cheaper, so if you use cost as a factor, get the note 10.1 2014. I got the note pro 64GB when it was 849, now it is down to 799 for the 64GB, about 9GB is used for system storage on the note pro. The flip board ui is actually nice, but it limits your home screens on the normal TouchWiz UI. The office is really handy as well, but all depends on what you use it for.
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I have the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 which charges and syncs using a USB 3 port. I have an old 1-gen Galaxy Tab 10.1 which use to read documents and sometimes read news like on my Note 3. Then I use these two devices while I travel I have to carry two chargers with me the old Samsung non-USB charger for my GT 10.1 and the USB 3 charger for my Note 3.
Some say that the only thing you get from buying this tablet insteed of Note 10.1 2014 is that the Note Pro 12.2 has the larger screen and the USB 3 port. Is that true? Regards if I buy the Note 10.1 2014, I still have to carry two chargers around with me a mini USB 2.0 an mini USB 3.0. What would you Guys surgest that I buy?
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USB 3.0 doesn't affect charging on either the N3 or the N12. Its only value is faster data transfer times to/from a USB 3.0 Windows PC. The S-800 devices charge faster but it's because of Qualcomm's QuickCharge chip, not USB 3.0.
The Galaxy Note 3 ships with USB 3.0, unfortunately at least in its current state it doesn't seem to get any benefit from the interface. Although the internal eMMC is capable of being read from at ~100MB/s, sustained transfers from the device over adb averaged around 30MB/s regardless of whether or not I connected the Note 3 to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 host.
Update: USB 3.0 does work on the Note 3, but only when connected to a Windows PC with USB 3.0. Doing so brings up a new option in the "USB Computer Connection" picker with USB 3.0 as an option. Ticking this alerts you that using USB 3.0 might interfere with calls and data, but then switches over. Connection transfer speed is indeed faster in this mode as well, like you'd expect.
Charging is an interesting story on the Note 3, but primarily because of what doesn’t change. The Note 3 continues to use Samsung’s tablet charging specification and charger, which has 2 amps of maximum output. The Note 3 draws 2 amps over a considerable amount of the charging curve, like other Samsung devices (in the linear part of the charge curve). USB 3.0 doesn’t change things up here quite yet with the new supported charge voltages that are coming eventually with the power delivery specification.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/4
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USB 3.0 doesn't affect charging on either the N3 or the N12. Its only value is faster data transfer times to/from a USB 3.0 Windows PC. The S-800 devices charge faster but it's because of Qualcomm's QuickCharge chip, not USB 3.0.
The Galaxy Note 3 ships with USB 3.0, unfortunately at least in its current state it doesn't seem to get any benefit from the interface. Although the internal eMMC is capable of being read from at ~100MB/s, sustained transfers from the device over adb averaged around 30MB/s regardless of whether or not I connected the Note 3 to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 host.
Update: USB 3.0 does work on the Note 3, but only when connected to a Windows PC with USB 3.0. Doing so brings up a new option in the "USB Computer Connection" picker with USB 3.0 as an option. Ticking this alerts you that using USB 3.0 might interfere with calls and data, but then switches over. Connection transfer speed is indeed faster in this mode as well, like you'd expect.
Charging is an interesting story on the Note 3, but primarily because of what doesn’t change. The Note 3 continues to use Samsung’s tablet charging specification and charger, which has 2 amps of maximum output. The Note 3 draws 2 amps over a considerable amount of the charging curve, like other Samsung devices (in the linear part of the charge curve). USB 3.0 doesn’t change things up here quite yet with the new supported charge voltages that are coming eventually with the power delivery specification.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/4
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Well I have tested a mini USB 2.0 cable on my Note 3 for charging, and my exprience is that it took almost and hour extra to charge my Note 3 using a Micro USB 2 cable than the Micro USB 3 cable which came with the phone.
Doesnt the quick charge need usb 3.0 to work? I would get the 12.2 the 10.1 feels so miniscule now and the 12.2 is miles ahead in usability
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Well I have tested a mini USB 2.0 cable on my Note 3 for charging, and my exprience is that it took almost and hour extra to charge my Note 3 using a Micro USB 2 cable than the Micro USB 3 cable which came with the phone.
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And I bet it's a non-Samsung cable you're using. Someone posted charging times with Apple and HTC cables/chargers and they were longer because the device was pulling less amperage. My N3 charges just as fast using Samsung 2.0 cables as it does with the 3.0 cable included.
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Doesnt the quick charge need usb 3.0 to work?
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No. It's S-800 related, not USB related.
I Know its the S-800 but I haven't seen anything but the Note 3 and galaxy tabs with 3.0 AND S-800 Claiming to use the feature. None of the others using the chip claim to support quick charge AFAIK . Maybe reviewers just overlook it?
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I Know its the S-800 but I haven't seen anything but the Note 3 and galaxy tabs with 3.0 AND S-800 Claiming to use the feature. None of the others using the chip claim to support quick charge AFAIK . Maybe reviewers just overlook it?
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Qualcomm Quick Charge 1.0 is available today in more than 70 Snapdragon-based devices including the*Droid DNA by HTC,*Samsung Galaxy S III,*Nokia Lumia 920, Asus Padfone and*LG Nexus 4. Below is a list of some of the commercial Snapdragon devices that feature Quick Charge 1.0. Check out the*Snapdragon device finder*to view the full breadth of devices and features powered by Snapdragon and come back next week for exciting news on the newest advancement in fast charging technology. Qualcomm Quick Charge is a product of Qualcomm Technologies, Inc.
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/blog/...-charge-10-less-time-charging-more-time-doing
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Qualcomm Quick Charge 1.0 is available today in more than 70 Snapdragon-based devices including the*Droid DNA by HTC,*Samsung Galaxy S III,*Nokia Lumia 920, Asus Padfone and*LG Nexus 4. Below is a list of some of the commercial Snapdragon devices that feature Quick Charge 1.0. Check out the*Snapdragon device finder*to view the full breadth of devices and features powered by Snapdragon and come back next week for exciting news on the newest advancement in fast charging technology. Qualcomm Quick Charge is a product of Qualcomm Technologies, Inc.
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/blog/...-charge-10-less-time-charging-more-time-doing
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Oh my bad. I thought the s800 was quivk charge 2.0. I hadnt ever seen it talked about before the note 3. nice info Barry
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@Euroman28 I have both and will be putting the Note 10.1 2014 with a boatload of accessories up for sale. That should tell you which I prefer.
When I first got the Pro, it was so much bigger and heavier than my 10.1. I decided to make the 10.1 my couch tablet and the Pro my work tablet.
Two weeks later, and my 10.1 sits untouched for the past three days. The only use it's gotten in the past week is my daughter using Sketchbook.
The 10.1 has its advantages - it's much lighter, easier to hold in one hand, and for games with on screen thumb controls, the 10.1 is light enough for extended gaming.
Everything else? The Pro owns. Remote Desktop, comics, magazines, video, browsing - you name it, and it's better on the Pro. Sketchbook is much better too because there's more area to rest your hand.
I had been saying I'd get the 10.1 if I had to choose because it's a better all around package. But in the past week I've done a 180.
Been there done that, moving on with my 12.2 Note .
Peace and blessings,
Azeke
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I have both the note 3 and note pro, I personally like the extra few inches on screen because it is good for textbook reading and good for note taking. The note 10.1 2014 is a lot cheaper, so if you use cost as a factor, get the note 10.1 2014. I got the note pro 64GB when it was 849, now it is down to 799 for the 64GB, about 9GB is used for system storage on the note pro. The flip board ui is actually nice, but it limits your home screens on the normal TouchWiz UI. The office is really handy as well, but all depends on what you use it for.
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You can actually pick up the note pro 12.2 for 599(32 GB)/699(64 GB) from Costco.
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I think it really depends upon what you value more. Portability or sheer capability, the Note 10.1 is a highly capable tablet which is also fairly portable, the 12.2 on the other hand benefits from an even larger screen and is even more capable than the 10.1 but it suffers with portability.
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I've considered the 10.1". But it simply feels too small for me. I'm one of those people who prefers usability over portability (As evidenced by my 17.3" laptop and my 5.7" Note 3), and the 12.2" is absolutely perfect. (Well no, I would've prefered an AMOLED screen, but alas, those don't exist in that size. So perfect by what's available.).
The 12.2" simply offers more. Bigger screen, more screensize (which really matters when you're multitaksing, typing, reading, watching a film, browsing or gaming.) and more usability. I can now read a magazine in full size, or use a full-sized A4 notepad (well, minus a cm or so) for my sketching and note taking. With films I no longer have to squint at the screen to see what's going on. I watched LOTR3 Extended Bluray on this thing last night. Brilliant, it's a portable TV!
Not to mention using it for navigation (When someone else is driving. We have a shared hatred for TomTom and other speaking navigation systems. I can read a bloody map, ta.). To have that much screen space is a true delight!
I don't get why people say it's not portable though. I use it during my extensive commute (7.5h a day), and I've not once had a moment where it felt too big to handle. The only times I couldn't use it was when changing trains, and I wouldn't even use my phone during that time for risk of theft or damage. (Am I the only one who's always afraid it'll fall onto the tracks when boarding the train?).
I don't think it's too big. My hands are fairly small (women glove size 6) but I can hold this comfortably on the train or sofa without it becoming too heavy.
I tried using my 10.1" TF700 yesterday as well. God no, I am never using anything that small again!
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I've considered the 10.1". But it simply feels too small for me. I'm one of those people who prefers usability over portability (As evidenced by my 17.3" laptop and my 5.7" Note 3), and the 12.2" is absolutely perfect. (Well no, I would've prefered an AMOLED screen, but alas, those don't exist in that size. So perfect by what's available.).
The 12.2" simply offers more. Bigger screen, more screensize (which really matters when you're multitaksing, typing, reading, watching a film, browsing or gaming.) and more usability. I can now read a magazine in full size, or use a full-sized A4 notepad (well, minus a cm or so) for my sketching and note taking. With films I no longer have to squint at the screen to see what's going on. I watched LOTR3 Extended Bluray on this thing last night. Brilliant, it's a portable TV! !
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I have an alternate opinion. I have a note 8 already , and got a note 10.1 2014 recently from Costco. They’ve also dropped the price on the 12.2 lately, it’s only about 80$ more than the note 10.1, so I purchased it with the intention of possibly replacing the note 10. (Still within the 90 day window)
I use my note in an office, for taking meeting minutes and random surfing when I have a min. The note 12.2 is big. It looks almost as big as a 14’ Laptop screen, so in effect I look ridiculous carrying it around. It looks like I have an extra personal laptop at my desk. Plus with that size factor I’m seriously inclined to look at a Windows 8 tablet which I can use as a proper PC. (Yes, I know it is more expensive)
If I were planning to use this only at home and use only the note 8 at the office, I would keep it in a heartbeat. However, I’m planning to retire the note 8, so the 10.1 is a compromise that works in both places.
My 12.2 also has the screen flickering issue, so it would need to go back anyway. I don’t see myself getting a replacement...
Just goes to show that samsung is right to flood the market with choices.
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chanukya said:
I have an alternate opinion. I have a note 8 already , and got a note 10.1 2014 recently from Costco. They’ve also dropped the price on the 12.2 lately, it’s only about 80$ more than the note 10.1, so I purchased it with the intention of possibly replacing the note 10. (Still within the 90 day window)
I use my note in an office, for taking meeting minutes and random surfing when I have a min. The note 12.2 is big. It looks almost as big as a 14’ Laptop screen, so in effect I look ridiculous carrying it around. It looks like I have an extra personal laptop at my desk. Plus with that size factor I’m seriously inclined to look at a Windows 8 tablet which I can use as a proper PC. (Yes, I know it is more expensive)
If I were planning to use this only at home and use only the note 8 at the office, I would keep it in a heartbeat. However, I’m planning to retire the note 8, so the 10.1 is a compromise that works in both places.
My 12.2 also has the screen flickering issue, so it would need to go back anyway. I don’t see myself getting a replacement...
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Understandably so. It is, after all, a matter of personal preference. You have to use your tablet, not anyone else. So you should buy the one you prefer, not what someone else prefers.
It also matter what you do at the office and at home as to wether it is useful. Whilst I find a thousand uses for it as a designer, I can easily imagine someone with a less creative occupation would not find as much use for a tablet of this size, and would prefer something more portable. I need the extra screen landscape, but others do not per se.
I often use it as a fourth screen. My laptop's and two 22" monitors are the main setup, with the tablet as a secondary system. One screen for Photoshop, one for Indesign/Illustrator, one for Bridge(the laptop) and my tablet serves as my internet/sketching system. The advantage of that is that with two split systems, the impact on the hardware is less severe. (because Photoshop + Indesign + Bridge is a VERY big resource hog. It makes Skyrim at Ultra look like notepad.)
I do often get reactions that I look ridiculous with a tablet this big, yes. I honestly can't be bothered to care. It's MY tablet, not theirs. I have to use it, not them. What they think is so unimportant it's an entirely different planet. I did not buy the tablet for them. Then again, I also get a lot of reactions from people who really like the size of it.
For entertainment and artistic purposes, it's a perfect size. For non-artistic and non-media use, not so much. For corporate use, it would depend on the kind of job.
Although one does look quite retarded taking pictures with it. :laugh: :silly:
I really do like the idea of the Surface with full Windows 8. The thing about it that puts me off faster than a pair of crocks is the Intel HD 4400.
I refuse to pay 2000 euro for rubbish that should've been banned from the market a decade ago. (I would want the best one as a laptop replacement for my Gaming needs as well. And Skyrim, Dragon Age, Mirror's Edge or Mass Effect on an Intel HD GPU = Nope.)
If they bring us the Surface 4 one with a serious Nvidia, I'd be willing to give up the Wacom pen. That would be one hell of a powerhouse! I would so buy that...
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Just goes to show that samsung is right to flood the market with choices.
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Very much so. There are 7 billion people and potential customers on the planet, it is corporate suicide to assume everyone is identical and wants the same thing for the same reasons and use it the same. It's a mistake that's going to bite Apple in the arse soon enough.
You catch more fish with a wide net than with a single hook.
USB 3 works better than expected.
Note 10.1
I did a couple experiments with the Note 10.1 2014, trying to get it to work correctly before giving up entirely. Using either the Samsung charger/cable or the aftermarket one, the tablet would always discharge when the screen was on. Slowly, albeit, but i need a device that can work and charge at the same time. I tried turning down the brightness and switching off the wi-fi, but it had the same results: the battery would keep draining.
Note Pro
I returned the 10.1 2014 and, with some trepidation, got the Note Pro as a replacement. I was pleasantly surprised: with USB 3 and a half-decent charger, it charges during use. I tried using a generic Amazon USB cable with equally beneficial results. The charger should be 2.1A, but most high-powered, tablet-based ones should do. That's pretty cool, considering I can get a 6-foot USB 3 cable for about $8.
There is something about USB 3 that lets the Note Pro charge faster. I'd recommend it for any "power" users.
I own the note 10.1 2014 - its a great tablet easy to carry around due to the size - it is my go to tablet and very quick once you install the xkat rom and xluco kernel - I also own the 8.4 pro also a great tablet - this one is running cm11 - and much more portable then even the note 10.1, I am picking up a note 12.2 tomorrow - bought a used one at a great price and while I don't need all 3 tablets I will probably keep 2 of them, just not sure which 2 yet - I am thinking it will be the 12.2 and 8.4 but you never know :laugh: my only concern right now is that there are no custom roms for the note pro 12.2 and I really don't like running stock