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MINE SUCKS
I have been using the (new gps fix) and here are its issues;
When on the freeway and driving around town at twenty five miles per hour my position is one block behind my location. the navagation tells me to turn when I am way past the street I was suppose to turn on.
The GPS still loses signal constantly
The accuracy on the Google map is way off in comparison to what the GPS program says the accuracy claims. It claims 30 to 40 feet and its 300 to 500 feet on the map. You better not be walking next to a cliff in the dark
and yeah I rebooted the phone, reinstalled Google Maps, and cleared the cach, and nothing has changed
Why did I wait for the update
I no longer trust Samsung.
The phone lag is getting worse every day and I have lost the ability to go to the market unless I reboot.
The battery life sucks as well, I cant make it through a day with out recharging.
Hey but the hardware is great if it works
Unfortunately I bought this phone for the supposed functionality and this includes the GPS.
Has anybody done any testing and what are your results or issues?
Did you miss the other threadS on this?
Delete GPS data
Wipe data, reinstall from fresh flash of JFD
Disable Use Wireless Networks.
Mine sucks too. Position in Maps jumps all over the place, it's usually at the far end of the error margin, and is relatively slow getting a fix (compared to a Nexus One)
Accuracy has never been consistent (usually above 10m)
The compass is really bad too.
There were improvements with JI6, faster lock, more satellites, fixed gmt and local time, smoother compass, but still far from reliable.
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heygrl said:
Did you miss the other threadS on this?
Delete GPS data
Wipe data, reinstall from fresh flash of JFD
Disable Use Wireless Networks.
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Sorry heygirl, your optimism is appreciated but that solution is no more than wishful thinking.
Drive a 1000 miles and your gps is still usrless. Wait a few days, abd your gps is useless.
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Did you miss the other threadS on this?
Delete GPS data
Wipe data, reinstall from fresh flash of JFD
Disable Use Wireless Networks.
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How do you delete GPS data?
mine is working awesome i did it last night and is working way better than before, in some places where i used to have 0 or 1 bar i now have 3 bars, the gps working without problems.
I have noticed bugginess still.
Twice now-- When turning on GPS, opening Maps, clicking the FIND MY LOCATION button.. it sits for a moment.. and then reboots my phone. brilliant, right?
Other than that, it is a bit more usable.. still not reliable like my G1 was.
When sitting still in MAPS, my blue arrow spins, jumps a millimeter, spins back... doesnt know which direction I am moving/facing.
Compass is still absolute trash.
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mine is working awesome i did it last night and is working way better than before, in some places where i used to have 0 or 1 bar i now have 3 bars, the gps working without problems.
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I cannot complain about the GPS anymore. I flashed the ROM myself, formatted and repartitioned before...just to make sure. Quick GPS locks on plenty of satellites. It does seem that it works best in standalone mode on my phone.
My gps accuracy sucks (usually ~30m), but it does lock pretty quick. Subpar while driving, had me jumping around at stop lights and even lost the signal entirely for a few mins. In my opinion, not yet worthy of the title "gps." i'm on stock ji6.
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My GPS seems pretty good, although it was good before the update since I used the leaked GPS fix.
The only thing I've noticed since I odin'd the official JI6 is that my battery seems to drain a bit faster than before, but I might be using it a little more than before as well, so it's hard to tell.
My only complaint is that when I turn on the navigation app it takes several minutes before the gps locks. Once that happens it seems fine.
The same is true of my Garmin standalone gps, so maybe I'm expecting too much.
Hey in case anyone is interested, GPS is working great on the Bionix 1.8 ROMS. I get a constant viewed 11 and locked 9-10 within 3-4 seconds and the tracking is very accurate.
Thought I would share if you are rooted and want to try it out, oh and did I mention it's a great ROM
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Hey in case anyone is interested, GPS is working great on the Bionix 1.8 ROMS. I get a constant viewed 11 and locked 9-10 within 3-4 seconds and the tracking is very accurate.
Thought I would share if you are rooted and want to try it out, oh and did I mention it's a great ROM
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I'm using Bionix 1.8 and it will take minutes sometimes to lock and then for no apparent reason the lock will drop. Mytracks still has me driving through buildings as well. It's better but not fixed (at least on my vibrant).
mine works flawlessly. All I've done is root with Ryans OCLF and never removed any bloatware. I do have the recent JI6 update.
Working great after the update..
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I don't have any of those issues.
I just tried looking for my location... and it's very accurate.
Before the update, it was off by a block, and constantly moving around.
Never put in a custom ROM or kernel.
I just MOD a few things.
I Concur
Jdom58 said:
Hey in case anyone is interested, GPS is working great on the Bionix 1.8 ROMS. I get a constant viewed 11 and locked 9-10 within 3-4 seconds and the tracking is very accurate.
Thought I would share if you are rooted and want to try it out, oh and did I mention it's a great ROM
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I totally agree with you on this, I had stock ROM, flashed to Bionix 1.8, after the initial waiting period to grab a bird, I have since seen consistent locks (within SECONDS) using this ROM with JI2 baseband (to avoid data improvement/battery issues). It is now working in my house where it wasn't before. In particular with Wireless Networks turned off, that little satellite icon locks right quick.
Can endorse the Bionix ROMs highly enough, this thing is truly butter as advertised.
Also, this is with factory GPS settings (not supl.google.com).
Salud, happy vibrant-ing!
Kelly
Samsung VIbrant with Bionix 1.8 JAC/OC/Voodoo Kernel.
GPS & everything works great for me after the update. I did have to calibrate the compass but that was it...
There was an update? My wifes phone did an update yesterday from tmobile but my phone hasn't.
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I upgraded yesterday through mini Keis, and locked on to 9 of 11 satellites, indoors. I tested this morning while driving to work, it was accurate, and navigation App works like a charm. Loving the layers and satellite view!
Before, I could rarely even get a GPS lock.
Hello wise xda guys.
Any ideas why my hd2 freezes after some time, when I use gps with osmand or maverick (or a couple of other software I tried before and unistall). It freezes completely, and I have to remove the battery. While it is working (before freezing) everything works fine.
[Another symptom (maybe irelevant) is the very slow gps fix (the first time), which deosn't really bothers me (I'm a patient person). I'm just writing it here because maybe there is a relation]
I use: Froyo 2.2.1, mod: Cleandroid 2.55, MAGLDR 1.13.
Otherwise the telephone is more or less stable
thnx
Same issue it seems...
Going to re-flash WinMo and test there.
I'm having the exact same issue lately and it is not funny/safe at all.
I first had it happening in google navigation all the time and now in iGO and Waze.
Can this be from Rafpigna's undervoltaged kernel or be a hardware issue?
Unfortunately the device freezes completely and doesn't give any error.
Does a log exist somewhere?
Any help is more than appreciated!
Yeap, still the same problem and I can't figure out why.
I've tried more than 10 different apps, but allways the same. After some time the phone freezes. I remove the battery, start the app and after a while, the same.
I tried working with battery only or with car charger only, still the same.
I removed and brought back all my apps with titanium backup, still the same.
I have a suspicion that when it stacks and after rebooting, if I leave it in peace (I mean don't do anything with the phone, just keep it without running any app), for some time (10-20 minutes), then it starts and keeps the gps app more time, than the time of the initial freezing. Maybe this is a symptom that could ring a bell to an experienced guy...
Anybody, any ideas?
I think mine is related to heat.
Left it in my pouch and placed iGO in demo on a long roadtrip. After 15 minutes the phone was warm and the screen was frozen so I had to get the batt out again.
More than frustrating since I have a 700km trip to do on Thursday.
Not sure about the heat
I had the same suspicion, that the heat was causing the freezing ) funny language ah?).
So I tested it while keeping it cool (I protect it from the sun and remove the car charger), but still the same happened. After some time it froze again. (the phone was cold)
I have a suspicion that a possible reason is the rendering of the maps. I've noticed that I have the problem, mainly when driving a car, where the maps images should change more often. I kept it in my pocket and made a few hours trekking, with no problems. Though in my pocket I had the app running in the background and I only open it a few times, just to add some points on the map.
Another sister thread
There is also this thread, by Crash-nl, with the same subject (more or less) so we can combine powers.
Check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12391898
I'm also having GPS freezing issues, but probably way worse than you guys. I just got my phone from service center, but the issue still exists. I just quote my comments from an another topic:
I've now got back my HD2 from the service center. The GPS is now working, but not in Android. When I was using WinMo 6.5 with WWE 3.14 and 2.15.50.14, the GPS worked great. Fast lock, TomTom worked well and Google Maps worked fine. Then I decided to get Android again and after I installed everything, I discovered, that I had the same exact issue like prior the repair. The GPS starts looking the signal, if it doesn't find it, nothing bad happens, but when it does find the signal, it causes the phone to freeze. Instantly after the signal is found, it causes instant freeze. Screen stays on, nothing happens. What can cause this? I haven't yet tampered with the gps.conf settings, but I don't even think that it could fix the issue. I'm really going crazy with this.
Yeah, I'm thinking also its a driver issue. My current Android build is RAFDROID 4.0.2. And since this issue seems to be exatly the same, like before the repair, the GPS probably doesn't work in the earlier versions of RAFDROID. However something has changed in my phone, because the GPS has worked with nand Android builds in the past and even with RAFDROID 3.0. Now however, it doesn't matter which build I use, the issue always exists. Could it be caused because of the GPS module? I mean, does the WinMo 6.5 QuickGPS app save the AGPS data directly to the GPS module? So could there be some kind of corruption in the GPS module? I was having some sudden reboots, while using Google Maps and TomTom in the WinMo, but I was able to fix them, by hard resetting the device.
First time I started having this issue was, when I updated from RAFDROID 3.0 to 3.1. After that, the GPS has always caused instant freezing, when using GPS in the Android. Even downgrading back to 3.0, didn't solve the issue. Now I'm having this issue with all Android builds.
It's possible that my GPS module or "chip" could be somehow broken physically, but it's no point sending the device back for repair, because they send it back and say, "there's nothig wrong with the GPS". I'm really hoping it's not a hardware issue, because if it is, there's really nothing that can be done. I have still about a year left from the warranty and changing the module myself, will void the warranty. I just cannot understand why does the GPS still work in WinMo, but not in Android? Because if the module was somehow broken, should the GPS be defective also in WinMo?
I have tried flight mode, Wifi and 3G off etc. and the GPS DOES WORK. So the chip is not dead.
Just did some more testing on mine to try to find the issue.
I have always had a freez when I used google navigation with the sat image from the start in Android. But last week it happened in iGO and Waze which scared me a bit.
As a matter of test I installed WinMo again last night. Fantastic OS btw! and installed iGO.
Everything was up and running at 2am and I decided to let it do a demotrip of about a 1000km. The demo also sets the GPS receiver active.
I placed the HD2 it next to the fan of my laptop which is always on to generate some extra heat.
This morning at 10am the demo was still running perfectly.
Just reinstalled Android on it again. After 3km's in iGO 'gps signal lost' . I cannot get it back in any way. The GPS symbol is stuck in the bar above even if you disable GPS in the settings. So reboot is the only way.
This is getting very frustrating for me since my phone needs to work as GPS and may not fail.
Also a funny one is that it doesn't seem to matter on mine if the gps.conf file is on there or not ;-) lock time when the hd2 works is approx 1min
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Just reinstalled Android on it again. After 3km's in iGO 'gps signal lost' . I cannot get it back in any way. The GPS symbol is stuck in the bar above even if you disable GPS in the settings. So reboot is the only way.
This is getting very frustrating for me since my phone needs to work as GPS and may not fail.
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I'm having this same exact issue! However I just discovered that the local service center did not change the GPS module or antenna. So this might be the reason why my GPS doesn't work. The service center was fooled that the GPS works, because they didn't test the GPS thoroughly. YOU HAVE TO ENABLE FLIGHT MODE OR TAKE THE SIM CARD AWAY TO TEST THE GPS!. If you don't do this, you are being fooled believing, that your GPS is working, but it's not.
You guys should test your GPS, by going back to WinMo 6.5 and leave your sim card away from the phone. If your GPS can find the signal even without the sim card, congrats, your GPS is working. If you want to be double sure, enable flight mode and try again. If your GPS cannot find signal, your GPS module and/or antenna is broken and needs to be replaced.
Well my module is working.
Easy way to test it and no need to take out your sim or so.
Just use the cab file attached to this post. If you will start it the first time it will scan the ports so you can end up with a small error in regards to BT but it not a real error.
The tool will continue to com port 4 where the gps mod is active on.
Go stand outside and voila, mine starts to show bars like it should be.
I'm taking a different approach now.
Ckeared everything and also took a fully fresh formated sd-card .... (as I type now not working)
lukesan said:
Well my module is working.
Easy way to test it and no need to take out your sim or so.
Just use the cab file attached to this post. If you will start it the first time it will scan the ports so you can end up with a small error in regards to BT but it not a real error.
The tool will continue to com port 4 where the gps mod is active on.
Go stand outside and voila, mine starts to show bars like it should be.
I'm taking a different approach now.
Ckeared everything and also took a fully fresh formated sd-card .... (as I type now not working)
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Thanks! You just saved my time a lot! I downloaded and installed that app and I was able to get a succesfull GPS connection and now I can even get GPS lock, when flight mode enabled or sim card removed. This was impossible before installing this app.
However it seems that we are both suffering from the same issue. GPS does not work for me in Android. It has worked in the past, but nowadays, it doesn't matter, which Android build I use, it either freezes the phone and only way to fix this, is by removing the battery or it doesn't find the signal at all. Sometimes the GPS stays on, even if I turn it off. The blinking GPS icon goes away only by restarting the device.
If you are using gps navigation software on sd card, try format micro sd card with FAT32 and DEFAULT ALLOCATION SIZE option, do not choose allocation size such as 32,64 or any other except DEFAULT.
Try it and GL.
colosos said:
If you are using gps navigation software on sd card, try format micro sd card with FAT32 and DEFAULT ALLOCATION SIZE option, do not choose allocation size such as 32,64 or any other except DEFAULT.
Try it and GL.
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Did anyone try this method? Looking at other threads I see people saying that only a warranty repair will fix the issue.
freezes
Hi. I had the same problem, i try everything formating sd, different builds and kernels. I disable "use wireless networks" and GPS work with no freeze.
Do you have a freezes on games?
did any one found the answer ?
is it a hardware problem ?
or a software ?
Thought I'd throw in that I'm having the same problem running hyperdroid rom on a telstra hd2. GPS finds a lock, works for about 2 mins then freezes requiring battery to be taken out to restart. I'm leaning away from a hardware issue as copilot worked perfectly on the same phone when I was running windows 6.5...
Just an update, after installing the new GPS fix from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100114
[28.May.2011][Dev] GPS Libraries v1.0 for HD2 Gingerbread the GPS freezing problem is fixed. Full credit to the developer
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But the problem still occurs when using Google maps, Google navigation is now fixed
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Hi all,
I'm facing the same issue reported in post #12. I'm actually using latest Rafdroid HD (Froyo Sense) build on SD. Do you think I can try the fix in post 18, also if it is for Gingerbread builds? Please advise.
Thank you.
I've played Ingress for several months. One thing I do daily is recharging 20~30 portals during my commute by bus -- open Ingress after getting on a bus, waiting for the GPS to get fix, and collect XMs and recharge.
However, in the recent one or two months, my phone's not able to get me GPS fix near my home -- even on a square. GPS status shows many sats in yellow, but none becomes green. Rebooting the phone doesn't solve it.
When I get to another place, two or three kms from my home, my phone still can't get fix. What's strange is, if I reboot my phone there, and try GPS again, it usually gets instant fix.
Also, I can always get instant fix anywhere near my working place.
I have two questions:
1. Which of the software parts affects GPS performance? I switched among multiple ROMs during these months, but I should be always on cloudyfa's KK baseband.
2. Anyone else has encountered the situation that you stand on a square on a not-so-cloudy day, with no high building around, 24 sats in sight, but your phone just can't connect to any? Has anyone solved it? How?
Try using faster fix app and change the ntp to your location and see if that helps
danial.aw said:
Try using faster fix app and change the ntp to your location and see if that helps
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Thanks. That didn't make any difference.
coolcfan said:
Thanks. That didn't make any difference.
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Download GPS Test from the Play Store, go to the app settings and press Update A-GPS while your data connection is on. Wait a few moments and the app should lock on to GPS satellites. You should be good to go from there.
robogo1982 said:
Download GPS Test from the Play Store, go to the app settings and press Update A-GPS while your data connection is on. Wait a few moments and the app should lock on to GPS satellites. You should be good to go from there.
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GPS Status from play store also has that A-GPS downloading feature, and that's not helping me either.
If not changed nothing in software that can cause bad reception (build prop edit, rom, ...) try something hardware
Réparer en 5 minutes le GPS LG g2: http://youtu.be/UdDJqFxpRy8
siggey said:
If not changed nothing in software that can cause bad reception (build prop edit, rom, ...) try something hardware
Réparer en 5 minutes le GPS LG g2: http://youtu.be/UdDJqFxpRy8
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Thank you! Good video. I will try it after having tried all software ways.
Which properties in build.prop affects GPS performance? I'd like to check them first.
Also, try TopNTP app before opening up the phone.
I've been through a few smartphones and running various ROMs on each, here's my observation.
a. If the phone's gps takes long time but eventually locked then those apps mentioned above do help.
b. If the phone's gps take long time and never locked then those apps above are useless, they won't do a thing.
My advice 1: restart the phone and see the gps gets locked reasonable fast, if not
My advice 2: changing ROM. Do focus on firmware first before touching hardware.
Long time means 15' or more.
Hello,
Recently noticed my GPS barely works. If I'm out in an open field it can get medium strength locking from satellites in GPS Status. My wife has identical phone and gets the type of GPS signal I would expect to get. Side by side my phone simply cannot get much. Indoors forget about it. It use to be so good. I certainly have dropped this phone here and there but in the past it never influenced GPS. Is there any possible software/firmware side of things that could be causing it? I may have installed apps or updated apps but I didn't do any tinkering with the GPS specifically or with flashing roms or whatnot since this summer--and it worked fine then after any tinkering---this is a recent development.
Can anyone provide any ways to troubleshoot this? Possible the GPS chip is partially broken? I mean.. it can get signal.. just piss poor and struggles mightily. Almost can't get it in the car, loses GPS lock under tree cover, etc. Very temperamental.
Seems a little bit like 4G has also degraded but a little more unsure of that.
bump! Any help, methods to trouble-shoot between hardware/software. I tried to erase modemst1/2 see if that would jog anything, no effect.
thanks
water- said:
Hello,
Recently noticed my GPS barely works. If I'm out in an open field it can get medium strength locking from satellites in GPS Status. My wife has identical phone and gets the type of GPS signal I would expect to get. Side by side my phone simply cannot get much. Indoors forget about it. It use to be so good. I certainly have dropped this phone here and there but in the past it never influenced GPS. Is there any possible software/firmware side of things that could be causing it? I may have installed apps or updated apps but I didn't do any tinkering with the GPS specifically or with flashing roms or whatnot since this summer--and it worked fine then after any tinkering---this is a recent development.
Can anyone provide any ways to troubleshoot this? Possible the GPS chip is partially broken? I mean.. it can get signal.. just piss poor and struggles mightily. Almost can't get it in the car, loses GPS lock under tree cover, etc. Very temperamental.
Seems a little bit like 4G has also degraded but a little more unsure of that.
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It's freaking Christmas, just buy yourself a new phone
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tempting..and I will in a few months when my contract is up. But this was a spectacular GPS for navigating in the backcountry with downloaded maps. Would love to be able to retain that use after it is no longer a primary phone.
please, any troubleshooting suggestions would be appreciated!
I've had very few problems since switching to Waze and SlimKat. It was horrid under CyanogenMod no matter what I used.
I had been having similar problems under stock KitKat. Here's what I noticed, maybe something will help you:
Resetting aGPS data and re-downloading wouldn't help.
Sometimes GPS would never give a location with plenty of satellites locked to. I modified some build.prop stuff to give me a horribly inaccurate lock in these cases. It was also usually fixed with a reboot.
GPS status would show TONS of satellites overhead, but never be able to lock on to more than one of them. Making sure I had wifi turned on (even if I was in the middle of nowhere with no wifi signals) eliminated this problem.
Something would randomly disable the GPS while I was using it, when it turned it back on a short time later it wouldn't lock (usually due to one of the above issues). I eventually concluded it was how Google Maps and some of the new location stuff works these days. I assume it's trying to save GPS power, other programs were much better. Solution: F Google maps; I only use it as a fancy yellow pages these days. I had stuck with the old, old, version (that still supported Latitude), but had to update when I went to KK and that's when my problems started. This is just another thing that pisses me off about it. I use Waze for navigation now (though I miss lane guidance and using my own text to voice software).
Some GPS bugs can be resolved by flashing to stock firmware, getting a GPS lock and while locked on GPS, reboot straight to recovery and flash your new ROM. After doing that once I have flashed (too) many ROMs with no GPS locking or accuracy issues.
Also make sure your GPS is set to high accuracy and not battery saver.
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ezdi and kronik.. thank you for suggestion. unfortunately to no avail even with full reset.
sometimes really seems like my general phone reception, wifi, gps, and data (1x/3G, 4G) are all haywire. Certainly they all work. But the data is never as strong as it should be. Often seems like it needs to be jogged (airplane mode on, then off)/dead areas--while my wife's phone is solid (same razr m but rooted with unlocked BL and stock rom). Likewise on the GPS. it can certainly find and lock satellites but in GPS Status only ever reach 'half bar' strength green.. they use to be able to lock multiple sats at max level.
It's odd...we are talking about the 'radios' of my phone, no? or mostly? I generally consider digital electronics to either function, or not. That they function at all--can receive pings from a satellite, can transmit data to and from towers... tells me the electronics are functional and this is software side. UNLESS there is some radio hardware component that is an amplifier of sorts. If that electronic was broken it would make sense why things function but appear weak/spotty.
thoughts?
aside from my contract being up in a month and what the hell next phone I should get from verizon... haha. But no I'd love to get my phone back to where it was and have a dedicated backcountry/hiking/skiing GPS... which it wouldn't be capable of now (it was..when it worked).
Cheers
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Now that I've got the Moto X Pure Edition activated, I've been able to work out some of the kinks inherent using it as a daily driver. One noteworthy issue that remains is an odd bug where the device will completely lose connection to the Internet on both a WiFi and cellular data connection, usually after transitioning between types of connections. When this happens, an exclamation point is displayed next to the icon representing whichever connection is currently active and nothing is able to transmit data to or from the Internet or even my local network.
Rebooting the device always fixes the problem, but this issue is materializing a bit too often for my liking, which is usually once every time that I return to a WiFi network after being disconnected from one for some time (more testing may have to be done to confirm exactly what triggers it).
The device is running the stock rom (rooted) and the stock kernel along with the usual tweaks (ad-blocking, Xposed framework, audio fixes, etc.). Anybody seen this before or know what might be causing it?
UPDATE (3/1/2017)
Figured it out! The problem appears to have been caused by my failure to whitelist certain applications in PowerNap. After following the instructions found in the Moto X Pure Edition power optimization thread, the problem appears to have vanished. I don't know if it was the Google Services Framework, JavaTcmdHelper, Android System, or some combination of those that needed to be whitelisted, but the problem has vanished. At least one of those must be responsible for verifying the validity of an Internet connection in sleep mode, which would cause the device to become confused when it would wake up with a different connection that it hadn't verified (that's my theory at least).
At any rate, it is no longer an issue.
Update (Later on 3/1/2017)
Well, it looks like it might not be fixed so well after all. A couple hours after arriving home today, I went to use the device and saw the dreaded "!" next to the network indicator. Still, two days is longer than it's ever lasted before. I've cleared the cache and dalvik/ART cache to see if something in there might be gumming it up and will add another post to this thread if the problem returns.
Still an issue
Looks like it might not be fixed after all. I lost connection again the other day in a parking lot and once more today after getting home. Any ideas as to what could be causing this?
I just recently got my x pure. I've seen this issue on mine too.
Another one!
inkdaddy66 said:
I just recently got my x pure. I've seen this issue on mine too.
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Interesting. Are you running the stock Rom? Rooted? Amplify/Greenify/PowerNap?
Bill720 said:
Interesting. Are you running the stock Rom? Rooted? Amplify/Greenify/PowerNap?
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I'm unlocked and rooted. Running validus 7.1.1 ROM.
does your configuration look anything like this?
inkdaddy66 said:
I'm unlocked and rooted. Running validus 7.1.1 ROM.
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That too is interesting. I'm running the stock Rom, (rooted) so we can probably eliminate that as a potential cause. Given how little reference there is to this on the web at large, the problem is probably caused by a common app or setting (or some kind of unfortunate combination) running on both of our phones.
All we need to do is figure out what kind of "unusual" stuff our devices have in common. I'll rattle off a list of software and settings that might be out of the ordinary or network-related; you tell me if you're running anything like it on your phone.
AdFree
A.R.I.S.E. audio
FolderSync
Ice Box (Motorola Update Service is the only frozen app)
TOTAL Wireless My Account App
Pebble, MyTracks, and Pebble MyTracks
SlingPlayer (this one sometimes wakelocks)
Titanium backup (I tried restoring some WiFi access points once, but it didn't work)
Xposed Framework with Amplify, Greenify, and Power Nap installed and configured as instructed in the Moto X Pure Edition battery life guide thread OP. I've also got MinMinGuard and YouTube AdAway.
As far as settings go, I've not got much in the way of unusual configurations. I enabled the system UI tuner to get the battery percentage and the extended developer options to try out multi-window, (and to change the animation scales to .5X) but everything in there is still pretty much stock.
Does your configuration have anything in common with mine?
Close, but no cigar
It got almost 8 days this time before it happened again. I thought that maybe switching to the legacy DHCP client had done the trick, but that was apparently not the case. Any ideas as to what could be causing the issue or how to fix it?
Or, if you're having the same problem, can you look at my list in the previous post and tell me if any of the software or settings are similar so that we can narrow down the cause?
I have had this problem appear about three times over my 13 months of ownership and all three times was when my bootloader was still locked (obviously running stock not rooted). Never found a solution except to reboot.i only unlocked and rooted my device about a month ago.
Anything familiar?
aybarrap1 said:
I have had this problem appear about three times over my 13 months of ownership and all three times was when my bootloader was still locked (obviously running stock not rooted). Never found a solution except to reboot.i only unlocked and rooted my device about a month ago.
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Interesting. Between that, my findings, and the fact that @inkdaddy66 was having the problem on a non-Motorola Rom, I want to think that we can eliminate the Rom software as a cause. Did you see any familiar software on my "potential troublemakers" list up in post 6? I'm thinking that if we can find a common program or workflow, then we'll be able to narrow down the cause of the problem.
In the meantime, I'll try posting in the general Android troubleshooting forum here on XDA and see if anybody there has seen the problem or has any troubleshooting tips.
Bill720 said:
Interesting. Between that, my findings, and the fact that @inkdaddy66 was having the problem on a non-Motorola Rom, I want to think that we can eliminate the Rom software as a cause. Did you see any familiar software on my "potential troublemakers" list up in post 6? I'm thinking that if we can find a common program or workflow, then we'll be able to narrow down the cause of the problem.
In the meantime, I'll try posting in the general Android troubleshooting forum here on XDA and see if anybody there has seen the problem or has any troubleshooting tips.
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Nothing used from your list except system UI tuner when I experienced the problems. That would leave either a ROM and/or hardware issue IMO.
Cause and effect differential diagnosis
aybarrap1 said:
Nothing used from your list except system UI tuner when I experienced the problems. That would leave either a ROM and/or hardware issue IMO.
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Hmmm... That's also interesting, but I just don't see how system UI tuner could be harming anything. Do you have any other apps or settings at all that you think could be causing the issue?
If this were anything other than my primary, I'd hard reset and troubleshoot that way, but I don't exactly have the time to pull the rug out of an otherwise-working setup right now, so this is going to have to be done the hard way (or, in the case of hardware glitch, lived with).
At any rate, I discovered a new symptom earlier in the week. This time, Internet connection was lost, but only for WiFi, so the connection would actually fall back to Cellular and still continue to work. As before, toggling the connection had no effect, but rebooting the device "fixed" it. I thought maybe it was a fluke, since we'd had an AP hiccup over the weekend, (I refuse to reboot that thing because I'm going for an uptime record) but it happened again on Wednesday, so I'm not sure what to make of it.
Side-issue aside, I'm beginning to wonder if it's some kind of combination of network behavior and usage pattern that brings the issue about. It seems like if I stay within range of the WiFi network, no issue develops, but if I move out of its coverage and don't touch the phone for a while, that allows for ideal conditions under which to replicate the problem (sometimes). I haven't nailed down a consistent pattern yet, but the problem does emerge more often when I'm returning home than at other times. Any thoughts?
Update (3/24/2017; 12:32PM)
Scratch that last part about the issue only being triggered upon "arriving home." The problem happened again this morning, in the same general area. First, no WiFI, then, after resetting the connections, no cellular either. I captured a LogCat before rebooting this time though. Anyone want to take a crack at sifting through that to see if it offers any clues?
I lose cellular data, from time to time, I don't kow if I'm losing WiFi capability also, because I'm on the road when this happens.
It takes a reboot or switching in and out of airplane mode to regain data.
I have had this happen on TruPureXMM ROM and stock-rooted Marshmallow.
I have not spent much time on stock-unrooted, so i don't know if it would happen then, also.
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Just to follow up on this again, I have finally reached the eighth day of uptime without the problem materializing, which is the longest that I was able to go before without it happening. This time, I went in to the developer options and disabled "Cellular data always active." I'd give it another couple days to know for sure, but if this sticks, then I think we might've found the fix!
pizza_pablo said:
I lose cellular data, from time to time, I don't kow if I'm losing WiFi capability also, because I'm on the road when this happens.
It takes a reboot or switching in and out of airplane mode to regain data.
I have had this happen on TruPureXMM ROM and stock-rooted Marshmallow.
I have not spent much time on stock-unrooted, so i don't know if it would happen then, also.
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If your trouble is isolated to just one connection and/or cycling the connection brings it back, then the issue you are experiencing is unrelated to the one described in this thread.
Bill720 said:
Just to follow up on this again, I have finally reached the eighth day of uptime without the problem materializing, which is the longest that I was able to go before without it happening. This time, I went in to the developer options and disabled "Cellular data always active." I'd give it another couple days to know for sure, but if this sticks, then I think we might've found the fix!
If your trouble is isolated to just one connection and/or cycling the connection brings it back, then the issue you are experiencing is unrelated to the one described in this thread.
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Cellular data always active should never be on (it's disabled in stock rom), except if you have VoLTE only with no fallback to 3G or 2G (Jio is the only provider that comes to mind, but this phone doesn't support their service anyway) or otherwise unusual scenarios I can't really think of.
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
pizza_pablo said:
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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Always on is not necessarily a good thing. Reality is that when you lose or turn off WiFi, mobile data should only be delayed only by a second or two. There is no real benefit to having it on except for maybe VOLTE.
pizza_pablo said:
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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Actually, it's a battery killer more than anything else... It keeps cellular data active even when on WiFi.
It is possible it's a tower thing though. I have noticed at this one hotel I stay at frequently people tell me they call and it rings or just goes to voicemail even though I have good signal. After investigating it a bit, I'm in a spot that has nearly identical signal strength from 3 towers and it's a metro area so there are 4+ bands accessible... I've seen times watching LTE Discovery where it keeps switching bands and towers for 30 to 120 seconds or so, like it can't make up it's mind what to talk to because it's confused, then it locks on for a while before it starts it's cycle again. During those cycles I think is when people can't call me, can't really say if it affects internet or not since I tend not to use my phone too much in the evenings when I'm on the road (usually on laptop).
Uptime record, but... it's back
acejavelin said:
Cellular data always active should never be on (it's disabled in stock rom), except if you have VoLTE only with no fallback to 3G or 2G (Jio is the only provider that comes to mind, but this phone doesn't support their service anyway) or otherwise unusual scenarios I can't really think of.
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Interesting. I thought for sure that I had the default settings checked in there, but maybe I did change it early on and just forgot. Either way, waiting an extra five seconds to establish a data connection isn't that huge of a deal for me, so I'll leave it off anyway in exchange for battery life when the signal's poor.
At any rate, however, the problem has returned. I was just a few hours short of 9 days of uptime and really thought that I was out of the woods with this problem, but it has returned once again upon returning into range of the home access point. Looks like we're back to the drawing board on this one.
pizza_pablo said:
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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So you're having the same problem too? That makes at least four of us now. Do you mind sharing what Rom and flashed tweaks (Xposed Framework, A.R.I.S.E. audio, root, etc.) you're using as well as any unusual software or settings? Anything in common with my list on page 1?
Bill720 said:
So you're having the same problem too? That makes at least four of us now. Do you mind sharing what Rom and flashed tweaks (Xposed Framework, A.R.I.S.E. audio, root, etc.) you're using as well as any unusual software or settings? Anything in common with my list on page 1?
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I think we've established that my issue is different, but it has occurred on TruPureXMM and stock but rooted Marshmallow, both with Substratum, Xposed (Gravity Box only) and Viper Atmos.
Same as you =Titanium Backup
*another* new strategy (sigh)
For this week's shot in the dark, I'm going to try manually switching WiFi off before I leave anyplace covered by an access point. Since the problem seems to occur most often when connected to WiFi or when connecting to it, maybe this will make some kind of a difference.
pizza_pablo said:
I think we've established that my issue is different, but it has occurred on TruPureXMM and stock but rooted Marshmallow, both with Substratum, Xposed (Gravity Box only) and Viper Atmos.
Same as you =Titanium Backup
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I see now; my mistake.