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Anyone know how scratch resistant the Epic's screen will be?
If its weak, I'd like to manually try and replace it with Gorilla Glass.
Manually replacing the glass sounds kind of risky!
You should realize that gorilla glass and products like it are much more brittle than standard glasses. While it can with stand scratches, it doesn't favor well in drops and impacts to it. Why not just use an invisible shield or other protector? Much cheaper and easier.
Trying to replace a screen that's made for the phone with a screen that's NOT made for the phone isnt gonna be easy or pretty.
when it comes to a drop/impact that would shatter or splinter the screen, it either will or won't. Having a case and protector on the screen helps. But if its from more than 2 feet, most likely the screen will shatter regardless of the type of glass.
My Hero has survived far more of its fair share of 5 foot falls onto asphalt with only minimal scuffing to the plastic case, there are no screen cracks, and no screen scratches either. If the Epic 4G is anything similar, it should be fine with both. Although I would like to note that, at least for me I would worry more about problems with the keyboard after the phone has been dropped, as was the case with my Touch Pro. Just my 1.9 cents.
kennethlongshaw said:
Anyone know how scratch resistant the Epic's screen will be?
If its weak, I'd like to manually try and replace it with Gorilla Glass.
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One of the benefits of super amoled is that the screen is attached to the plastic/glass cover. It eliminated the dust and glare problems but it would most likely be impossible to replace it.
USAF22 said:
My Hero has survived far more of its fair share of 5 foot falls onto asphalt with only minimal scuffing to the plastic case, there are no screen cracks, and no screen scratches either. If the Epic 4G is anything similar, it should be fine with both. Although I would like to note that, at least for me I would worry more about problems with the keyboard after the phone has been dropped, as was the case with my Touch Pro. Just my 1.9 cents.
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One of the great things about the HTC "chin" phones is that it's impossible to directly impact the screen on a flat surface like a floor or sidewalk without completely breaking the phone open. That's how it is on my G1, at least. Say what you will about the aesthetics, but I find that to be fantastic practical design.
When I went to the T-Mobile store to see their version, they intentionally dropped it and banged the screen HARD like 5 times to demonstrate how tough it was. Not a scratch. I wouldn't worry about screen durability.
TripleAgent said:
When I went to the T-Mobile store to see their version, they intentionally dropped it and banged the screen HARD like 5 times to demonstrate how tough it was. Not a scratch. I wouldn't worry about screen durability.
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I'd love to see this, if only for the entertainment value.
TripleAgent said:
When I went to the T-Mobile store to see their version, they intentionally dropped it and banged the screen HARD like 5 times to demonstrate how tough it was. Not a scratch. I wouldn't worry about screen durability.
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It's gonna suck when it breaks infront a of a customer...
Or if people find out it's a dummy phone
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It's gonna suck when it breaks infront a of a customer...
Or if people find out it's a dummy phone
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Not gonna happen...they sell the display phone they drop to the customer ..lol jk....
Overall though I had plenty of LCD phones and I dropped them..threw them from room to room and never had any damage...I remember at one point I dropped my phone every day for like 6 months..but then again maybe I'm one of the lucky ppl :/
Take a look at the Galaxy S brutal tests and judge for yourself.
Warning: you might flinch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xASJobjD68&feature=related
Flinch indeed!!, I thought " The Cove" was bad.
What's with all the gorilla glass stuff lately? As previously said gorilla glass isn't suitable for the Epic 4G because of the Super Amoled display, on top of this Gorilla glass is very scratch proof but at the sametime it's not meant to be dropped.
Sebrina said:
What's with all the gorilla glass stuff lately? As previously said gorilla glass isn't suitable for the Epic 4G because of the Super Amoled display, on top of this Gorilla glass is very scratch proof but at the sametime it's not meant to be dropped.
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The next version of super amoled samsung promises is indestructible..so get your chainsaws ready
Glass
Yep its tuff glass
WTH would you bump a 7 month old thread?
My Epic fell out of my pocket screen first onto a rock when I was getting out of my car a few days ago and didn't have a scratch/crack or anything on it.
The silicon case, however, got chipped.
As long as he did, I wanna say I'm pissed at how easily my Epic screen scratched. Weak.
Does froyo make the glass faster?
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So, any thoughts about gorilla glass? Today my 2week old dvp shattered. Yes, I dropped it. But, I've dropped phones before with no damage .
I ordered s new one while I fight to get a replacement. Low expectations on that. However I'm thinking my expectations on gorilla glass may have been too high.
Anyone with s more correct expectation level willing to reset mine?
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So, any thoughts about gorilla glass? Today my 2week old dvp shattered. Yes, I dropped it. But, I've dropped phones before with no damage .
I ordered s new one while I fight to get a replacement. Low expectations on that. However I'm thinking my expectations on gorilla glass may have been too high.
Anyone with s more correct expectation level willing to reset mine?
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technically your gorilla glass didnt shatter you had a bad drop and the glass layer under the gorrila broke. trust me ive taken a hammer to the top layer and nothing. if you drop the phone with the screen facing down then your ok. but drop it on the sides or the back and you can get the layers under the gorilla to break
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technically your gorilla glass didnt shatter you had a bad drop and the glass layer under the gorrila broke. trust me ive taken a hammer to the top layer and nothing. if you drop the phone with the screen facing down then your ok. but drop it on the sides or the back and you can get the layers under the gorilla to break
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no, it shattered. Top, bottom, and every layer in between. I cut myself on the pieces falling off. I do have a pic I'll share later. I thought it landed face down...loohed like it. But the break pattern indicated more towards the edge. Funny thing though, I was also holding my hd2 at the same time..both dropped togethr. One on top of the other. Both broke, indicating the drop was similar to what you day.
The Dell shattered completely, inner and putter layers. Only a tiny part of the screen is alive. The hd2 has cracks, but is usable.
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no, it shattered. Top, bottom, and every layer in between. I cut myself on the pieces falling off. I do have a pic I'll share later. I thought it landed face down...loohed like it. But the break pattern indicated more towards the edge. Funny thing though, I was also holding my hd2 at the same time..both dropped togethr. One on top of the other. Both broke, indicating the drop was similar to what you day.
The Dell shattered completely, inner and putter layers. Only a tiny part of the screen is alive. The hd2 has cracks, but is usable.
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oh wow can you seperate the gorilla glass from the phone. i mean youll most likely get a replacement mines is coming today the shipped it overnight my battery exploded lol backcover melted its not nice
it would be nice if you provide some details pictures.
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technically your gorilla glass didnt shatter you had a bad drop and the glass layer under the gorrila broke. trust me ive taken a hammer to the top layer and nothing. if you drop the phone with the screen facing down then your ok. but drop it on the sides or the back and you can get the layers under the gorilla to break
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I dropped the phone glass first on a pavement, it had a screen protector. Though the screen didn't break nor are there any scratches but it did get a pin point dent on the glass
I guess if they are not sure about the amount of RAM they put in this phone who is to say if this is a real gorilla glass.
Just curious, the hammer thing you did, was it on a DVP?
I read an article somewhere that said that gorilla glass is only strongest when it is at the center and it is not as good at the edges.
I've seen all Gorilla Glass demo's done hitting it in the middle. I've seen just about every single break happen because of edge damage.
This should be addressed IMO.
My DVP has scratches all over the screen...Scratch resistent my butt..
Good thing I'm getting my replacement today
i keep my DVP in my pocket all the time and the glass doesn't have a single scratch.
bbowman said:
i keep my DVP in my pocket all the time and the glass doesn't have a single scratch.
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Same here.
millerliteguy said:
My DVP has scratches all over the screen...Scratch resistent my butt..
Good thing I'm getting my replacement today
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personally i got one scratch from keeping it in my pocket and several scratches from this one time where i dropped it
and engadget had several scratches on the venue
so some people get lucky and some dont as far as gorrilla glass goes
I had the displeasure of owning the DVP and thought the glass was atrocious. The curved design made it hard to scroll smoothly. And godforbid you try and wipe away smudge prints and dirt - this was a task in itself. However, I dropped it face first from 1 and half feet and not one scratch.
I abuse my phones and the best to take my abuse was my Dash 3G. The DVP is comparable. Only 2 light scratches and i got my phone a week before christmas and did i mention i abuse my phones. They are kept in my pocket with keys and such. Even the chrome trim has held up nice. As for the curved glass i like it.. Very tactile, and easy to use. maybe its my big hands but I like it, even the keys are spaced well and robust. Again, i have huge hands and the on screen keyboard doesnt work for me, but the portrait works well.
I've dropped mine a few times, not a scratch. Just yesterday, my car holster decided to let go of the dashboard, causing the DVP (with a little extra weight attached) to faceplant into my shifter pretty hard. No problems there either.
got my phone a few days ago, dropped it my first time today and the glass shattered
what can I do? I am very disappointed in myself....
I cannot find any replacement parts, I cannot find any repair shops for it... should I sell it as is, or call dell? IDK what to do... it still works fine just has a very ugly screen
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got my phone a few days ago, dropped it my first time today and the glass shattered
what can I do? I am very disappointed in myself....
I cannot find any replacement parts, I cannot find any repair shops for it... should I sell it as is, or call dell? IDK what to do... it still works fine just has a very ugly screen
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if you go to the Dell community site, they will tell you there is nothing they will do. I have a new one, paid for out of my pocket.
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if you go to the Dell community site, they will tell you there is nothing they will do. I have a new one, paid for out of my pocket.
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dell charged me 249.99 to send me a replacement device...
a cracked screen is considered out of warranty (I think it also includes any physical damage as well...not sure about that part though)
Well no one ever said Gorilla Glass wasn't glass... It is tougher than normal glass against scratches, but it isn't scratch proof nor is it shatter proof.
Remember it is still glass and that means it will break under the right conditions.
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Well no one ever said Gorilla Glass wasn't glass... It is tougher than normal glass against scratches, but it isn't scratch proof nor is it shatter proof.
Remember it is still glass and that means it will break under the right conditions.
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yea, sucks because it seems as though they could come up with a better more shatter proof solution....
I dropped my GS2 on a gravel road from about chest high, glass side down. I picked it up and the screen was completely dusty and horrible looking and I said UhOh. I got a microfiber cloth and wiped off the phone after blowing as much as possible of the screen. Got it all wiped off, and in direct sunlight at every angle, not a single scratch, blemish, pit, nothing lol. I have a slim gel on the phone, but the screen is naked. Whew!
Cool!
Peep peep.
It's called Gorilla Glass for a reason - gorillas are well known for their high resistance to being dropped by humans onto gravel.
I liked that someone experimented with Gorilla Glass
Swore I was going to read chest pains followed by back to back heart attacks until death.
Glad to hear it's ok.
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It's called Gorilla Glass for a reason - gorillas are well known for their high resistance to being dropped by humans onto gravel.
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WINNING ^^
Yeah I decided to forego the cases and the screen protectors after seeing some videos (not produced by screen protector sellers).
I was using Reallook but it got to slimy and even carrying the phone in my pocket with keys, only the plastic edges gets a little nicked. My Captivate's screen never had a scratch and I am the most un anal person when it comes to worrying about scratches on the body of the handset. Under everyday conditions the glass really is scratch resistant and I would say scratch proof in a pocket with keys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dw04tNgpA&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5WRQuvaA4I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVxj6gRYwS0&feature=related
I was expecting more from this thread.
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I've seen reports of screens cracked, so i wouldn't jump for joy just cause someone got lucky and his screen is still intact after dropping the phone. Also reports of scratches on the screen. So i advice people not to start playing football with their SII after reading this thread
Sp1tfire said:
I've seen reports of screens cracked, so i wouldn't jump for joy just cause someone got lucky and his screen is still intact after dropping the phone. Also reports of scratches on the screen. So i advice people not to start playing football with their SII after reading this thread
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+1. Dropping your phone to confirm its.durability is not big or clever.
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yes i got lucky, and could of also put a weak spot in the glass, and the next drop might not be so lucky.
budco2000 said:
yes i got lucky, and could of also put a weak spot in the glass, and the next drop might not be so lucky.
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Gorilla glass is good stuff......The "screen protector" makers are so scared of it they are posting questionable videos on YouTube of how "easy" it is to scratch. "fear" is a great advertising tactic and sells a lot of things. In fact the glass is amazingly resistant to scratching.
I would be more worried about the interior circuitry shock on a drop than the glass.
As long as HTC is in business, the screen protector people will be too. You can look at an HTC screen wrong and scratch it.
You are very lucky. Its a different story if you drop it in the sea or fall in with it in your pocket
Put it this way I've got a very expensive piece of gorilla glass for a coaster. Ohh and a spare battery that I'm too scared to use :-(
I must admit I got a zagg invisishield screen protector and it is awful. Wonder why they bothered ohh try money.
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I dropped a galaxy S1 from about waist high onto concrete. it bounced about 5 times before come to rest face down.
The LCD screen under the glass was cracked into 20 different pieces. But the glass itself - not even a single scratch. You had to hold at it an angle to see the broken lcd pieces. So while the gorilla glass is strong, the screen inside itself is pretty flaky, so dont be droppin it!
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I dropped a galaxy S1 from about waist high onto concrete. it bounced about 5 times before come to rest face down.
The LCD screen under the glass was cracked into 20 different pieces. But the glass itself - not even a single scratch. You had to hold at it an angle to see the broken lcd pieces. So while the gorilla glass is strong, the screen inside itself is pretty flaky, so dont be droppin it!
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Yeah Thats what I am talking about....The glass is like Pyrex...maybe even stronger. The interior parts are the issue with drops. That's where those thick soft silicone cases help out but I don't care for cases as the ones that could really protect the phone make it too bulky and the thin cases are a waste and only prevent scratches and nicks around the edges. I don;t worry about those. Never used the same phone for more than a couple years if that long. The back cover can be folded in half and if ever needed replaced easily.
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As long as HTC is in business, the screen protector people will be too. You can look at an HTC screen wrong and scratch it.
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That's nonsense, they scratch just as easily as the sgs2, I will let you decide how easily that is since most htc devices also use gorilla glass
I'm posting this so hopefully you can avoid my awful experience with this horribly delicate screen.
I purchased the phone 3 weeks ago, and ordered a screen protector from eBay.
While waiting for the screen protector to arrive I figured I'll handle the device with extra care, and I thought I should be fine after seeing all the big fuss Samsung made about the Gorilla glass II, showing how you can mistreat it in all sorts ways, let alone place keys on it and what not, and it wouldn't scratch.
So I concluded there is not going to be any problem if I carry it around my EMPTY back jeans pocket, screen facing towards the body, so nothing external could hit it.
Alas, I was wrong, the Levi's jeans seemed to managed beating the fu**ing Gorilla glass II quite easily. Now I have a couple of nasty looking scratches right in the middle of the screen.
I am very frustrated.
Samsung did a ****ty job with this one. Don't get me wrong, in terms of computing, this device is probably second to none, and I enjoy it a lot, but releasing such a fragile device, meant for daily intensive use, and should be able to easily manage normal handling, without adequate STOCK protection is really ranking Samsung on the lower end of brands.
Don't buy the Gorilla glass II lies, it sucks. Get your device protective covers from the second it leaves the box. You have been warned.
As for me, I'm probably going to sell the device, lose a little money, and get a new one, S3 or something else, I'll see.
many ppl consider simply most resistant gorilla glass I of SII
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Sands
Gorilla glass can not save u from sand particles....really.
/Keys: no problem // Sand particles: EPIC big problem.
So I am assuming...your scratches come from those pesky sands. I have to say though...I dont think there are any screen at the moment in the market which is really universally scratchproof.
Every phone I have owned has had multiple threads like this.
I'm still amazed people carry a phone in a back pocket. Forget to take it out when sitting down and bye bye phone.
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Basil3 said:
Every phone I have owned has had multiple threads like this.
I'm still amazed people carry a phone in a back pocket. Forget to take it out when sitting down and bye bye phone.
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couldn't agree more.....I think big glass screens have been around long enough now for everyone to know if you don't put a screen protector on straight away then you get what coming......just stop creating damn threads about it, no one is interested!
A surface is only "resistant" if the material scratching it is of equal or lesser resistance/hardness. for example keys, coins etc are all "relatively soft metals" in comparison to Gorilla glass, so no scratches.
As Sukulankur pointed out sand on the other hand is very hard and is much tougher than Gorilla Glass so sand/grit WILL scratch Gorilla Glass very easily.
Also quite obviously diamond will scratch Gorilla Glass very easily. So think twice about letting your wife use your phone to make a call whilst wearing diamond earings! lol
Mine has a few scuffs from when my little bro tried to S Memo with a a knife :crying: but tbh, the scratches aren't noticeable at most angles and are very fair.
Mines been dropped smashed of my keys and coins and it goes through all sorts and mine is still as if it was brand new. Never had any problems, and i don't understand the worry of sand I go to the beach every week with family.
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Your jeans was probably stone washed from the factory.
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As for me, I'm probably going to sell the device, lose a little money, and get a new one, S3 or something else, I'll see.
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you are going to sell your S3 just because you have your screen scratched? -.-
I learned my lesson after my SGS1 screen was scratched to Hell after a day at the beach and learned the difference between "Proof" and "Resistant"
And anyway I stuck an Xtremeguard protector on 5 months ago and they all rippled and have too much resistance and a lot of people say they rubbish, but mine has become like a fine wine and got better over age, because now the ripples have almost completely gone and is very smooth and fingerprint resistant and a lot of the scratches seem to disappear eventually because of the material.
Just headed inside to say this.. there is no way you can scratch the screen easily.. i used my s3 for around 2 months without a screenguard , wont say i handled it with extra care but there is not a single scratch when i took it to the shop for placing a screenguard
What have been your experiences with Gorilla Glass 3? The unit on mine cracked with a minor drop, although given it was a drop suffered directly to the face. But a two week phone already cracked. I had better experiences with Gorilla Glass 2 on my galaxy s2
How do car windshields sometimes just chip and sometimes crack all the way across, with a similar sized hit from a rock?
I wouldn't blame your glass, just luck of the draw.
Plus isn't GG supposed to be scratch resistent(not that it totally is) moreso than impact resistent?
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What have been your experiences with Gorilla Glass 3? The unit on mine cracked with a minor drop, although given it was a drop suffered directly to the face. But a two week phone already cracked. I had better experiences with Gorilla Glass 2 on my galaxy s2
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Consider yourself lucky if you ONLY cracked the glass. A number of us, including myself, have had experiences where the OLED broke off a "minor drop". In all honesty, you were unlucky AND lucky. If the phone still operates and you can look past the obvious cosmetic blemish (or scar, however you'd like to see it), then ride it out until the price of Gorilla 3 glass comes down. At least you may still have something that operates. Better that then seeing your phone go completely black.
One more note: can you show us where the phone landed on? I'm willing to bet 100 internets that it landed on the sides or corners. A large number of people here have had face down drops and come up clean (as in flat impact on flat surface.)
That sucks bro, I work a pretty labor intensive construction job and I keep my phone in an otterbox with the provided otterbox screen protector. I have dropped my s4 from roof to basement (roughly a 30 foot drop) and my phone is still unscathed. Same with the s3 I had for about a year and a bit. Probably dropped it 200 times, never had a problem. Just lucky I guess.
i guess it really depends how the phone drops, my friend also work in construction, he dropped his S3 from the 3rd step of a ladder last years and it shattered, his S4 fell from the top of a similar ladder and had a very slight chip on the plastic strip around the phone but no screen damage. Corner shots can be especially deadly
You guys need to quit playing around with your phones while at work. That's the problem - your punishment for goofing off.
Lol (just joking)
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JasonJoel said:
You guys need to quit playing around with your phones while at work. That's the problem - your punishment for goofing off.
Lol (just joking)
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No but i do agree. If you're careless, or accidentally drop the phone, you should be responsible for your acts, i have dropped my phone a few times before, thankfully, nothing ever happened, but if one day it does, the only person i'll blame is myself, not the construction of the phone, and definitely not gorilla glass 3. It's a phone, not a tank. Nothing is ever specified in any documentation that the phone is supposed to resist any drop.
Gorilla Glass will soon be a thing of the past
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Samsung's flexible display is awesome.
My experiences were good for the first 30 hours of my phone ownership, although I guess I can't be too upset at a thin piece of glass shattering upon contact with concrete.
Is there any clear cut way to tell the difference between a broken digitizer and just a broken glass? I can touch anywhere on the screen and it works fine, until I get a shard of Gorilla Glass in my thumb... I could always just shell out $220 for a whole new assembly, but I'd really rather not considering I spent a good amount of my check last week getting the phone.
ouch, you should be more careful.
The glass and digitizer are built together. You will need to buy them both built together. Disassembling the phone isn't too difficult though if you are good with fixing things you might be able to install it yourself.
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Is there any clear cut way to tell the difference between a broken digitizer and just a broken glass? I can touch anywhere on the screen and it works fine, until I get a shard of Gorilla Glass in my thumb
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When the digitizer is broken the touch capabilities don't work. It rarely breaks as its a piece of material more than anything
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LucasDTV said:
What have been your experiences with Gorilla Glass 3? The unit on mine cracked with a minor drop, although given it was a drop suffered directly to the face. But a two week phone already cracked. I had better experiences with Gorilla Glass 2 on my galaxy s2
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I dropped mine when getting out of the backseat of an SUV. I had the phone in my lap, forgot it was there, slid out and heard a loud SMACK on the rocky asphalt. I looked below and saw my phone laying screen down upon the dirty, New York stone parking lot. I reluctantly bent down and sighed, resigning myself to a $650 charge on my credit card next time I hit up an AT&T store. I picked it up to inspect the damage and...
Nothing. It was perfect as the day I took it out of the box. <3 GG3
Dropped it On a tile floor, bounced around, and very minimal damage.. Dropped from my hand without a case so 4-5 foot drop. The chrome dented where it dropped and the glass sorta cracked/chipped a layer.. There are no breaks, just a small area of damage.. Was quite scared that more damage would be inflicted based on some of the criticisms going around about the poor build
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Gorilla Glass will soon be a thing of the past
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIu1_zoLRgE
Samsung's flexible display is awesome.
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If the material is soft enough to be flexible I doubt how scratch-resistant it is going to be, and would a screen protector even stay on? I predict people whining about scratches.