What is Knox and do i need it? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there! I recently got my Note 3 and i want to root it! I'm always been rooting my devices. But i've never had a Samsung before.. and i read about Triangle Flasher, Odin and the new thing Knox? I want to root my Note 3, what disadvantages do i get by that? It's a European SM-N9005! How can i root it in a safe way? Do i need Knox? And what happens if i trigger the knox limit and the triangle flasher limit?
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Streykatorato said:
Hi there! I recently got my Note 3 and i want to root it! I'm always been rooting my devices. But i've never had a Samsung before.. and i read about Triangle Flasher, Odin and the new thing Knox? I want to root my Note 3, what disadvantages do i get by that? It's a European SM-N9005! How can i root it in a safe way? Do i need Knox? And what happens if i trigger the knox limit and the triangle flasher limit?
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If you trigger knox, your warranty is void. Nothing else happens. The warranty can't be recovered by unrooting your device again. Therefore it is important to keep Knox untriggered, if you want to be able to use ur warranty in the future. You can root without triggering knox, but you have to be VERY careful when you root. You have to pick a root method that doesn't trigger Knox. And even then you can't install a custom rom, otherwise knox will get triggered. There is a possibility that knox will get figured out and we can do everything without worrying but no one knows for now.
I haven't heard about the triangle flasher limit yet. What is it and what does it do?
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Rallerbabz said:
If you trigger knox, your warranty is void. Nothing else happens. The warranty can't be recovered by unrooting your device again. Therefore it is important to keep Knox untriggered, if you want to be able to use ur warranty in the future. You can root without triggering knox, but you have to be VERY careful when you root. You have to pick a root method that doesn't trigger Knox. And even then you can't install a custom rom, otherwise knox will get triggered. There is a possibility that knox will get figured out and we can do everything without worrying but no one knows for now.
I haven't heard about the triangle flasher limit yet. What is it and what does it do?
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What about software updates?
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Hello,I have a note 3 AT&T and I don't see Knox anywhere on my device. Where would I look for it
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Streykatorato said:
What about software updates?
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What about it?
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Rallerbabz said:
What about it?
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Will i be able to do normal software updates, like when KikKat comes for the Note 3?
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Streykatorato said:
Will i be able to do normal software updates, like when KikKat comes for the Note 3?
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If knox is triggered? Yeah, sure. It's just about your warranty.
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Chainfire said something about that samsung knox firmware will be unavalable to update.. but knox is in every update?
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And warranty depends on carrier and retailer? like hardware damage! And then knox won't be a problem
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Rallerbabz said:
If knox is triggered? Yeah, sure. It's just about your warranty.
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So im safe to root?
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Streykatorato said:
So im safe to root?
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You are safe to root if you DON'T CARE about your warranty, yes.
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I feel left out! Lol
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Rallerbabz said:
You are safe to root if you DON'T CARE about your warranty, yes.
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Then it's rooting next then!
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irokgalaxy said:
Hello,I have a note 3 AT&T and I don't see Knox anywhere on my device. Where would I look for it
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There should be an app called Knox somewhere. I'm on a European Note 3, sorry. I know nothing about US carriers.
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Ok thanks
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Yeah....
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Rallerbabz said:
You are safe to root if you DON'T CARE about your warranty, yes.
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Yeah.. that worked.. can't do updates anymore..
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Streykatorato said:
Yeah.. that worked.. can't do updates anymore..
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While it has disabled OTA, it doesn't mean you can't flash the newest software. You will always be able to download the latest firmware and flash it.
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Rallerbabz said:
While it has disabled OTA, it doesn't mean you can't flash the newest software. You will always be able to download the latest firmware and flash it.
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With Odin?
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What about Kies then?
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No knox counter

OK so I have gotten a n900 with out region lock and apparently doesn't have knox warranty counter
Before I rooted there was no knox counter in bootloader. Then I rooted and installed a custom recovery.
I returned to the bootloader screen expecting to see knox 0x1 but nothing
So I ask is it there and not showing or did I luck out and don't have it
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taz44410 said:
OK so I have gotten a n900 with out region lock and apparently doesn't have knox warranty counter
Before I rooted there was no knox counter in bootloader. Then I rooted and installed a custom recovery.
I returned to the bootloader screen expecting to see knox 0x1 but nothing
So I ask is it there and not showing or did I luck out and don't have it
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are you looking in download mode
Yes I am
Download mode is bootloader correct?
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taz44410 said:
Yes I am
Download mode is bootloader correct?
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power vol down and home
Yes have done it that way as well as using 4 way reboot menu
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taz44410 said:
Yes have done it that way as well as using 4 way reboot menu
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if knox is not in download mode your a very lucky man
I guess I am considering I have multitouch issue
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Exynos doesnt have knox counter so chill. You have not done anything special
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sohebq said:
Exynos doesnt have knox counter so chill. You have not done anything special
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Well didn't think I had
Thanks for clearing that up for me
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sohebq said:
Exynos doesnt have knox counter so chill. You have not done anything special
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well you learn somthing new every day
Knox
taz44410 said:
OK so I have gotten a n900 with out region lock and apparently doesn't have knox warranty counter
Before I rooted there was no knox counter in bootloader. Then I rooted and installed a custom recovery.
I returned to the bootloader screen expecting to see knox 0x1 but nothing
So I ask is it there and not showing or did I luck out and don't have it
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Hi,
Did you try using Knox environment and was it successful ?
Regards
No I have not
To be honest I don't want anything to do with knox
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jaythenut said:
well you learn somthing new every day
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Note 3 is to be blamed for keeping me busy
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Can u load a rom even if you take ota 4.3 update

Wonder if you can put a recovery and a custom rom on a phone that got the mail ota update frome sprint if so what will happen
Yeah install custom recovery, and install the rom
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What a bit tripping Knox do I need to care about that
jbuggy1 said:
What a bit tripping Knox do I need to care about that
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Not really if you don't use Knox you shouldn't care much. I think I'm about to trip it after two months on stock.
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OK will try just read on some threads that the phone will brick don't want the wife killing me over her phone...lol
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jbuggy1 said:
OK will try just read on some threads that the phone will brick don't want the wife killing me over her phone...lol
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One thing people have been confusing lately is a soft brick vs a hard brick. They freak out when theirs phones won't boot past splash screen. When your phone won't turn on at all. That is when you are hard bricked and are pretty much screwed.
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Will try thanks
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jbuggy1 said:
Will try thanks
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This :sly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47100455
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Why do I read read that Knox is tripped and super u will not update to grant root access
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N9005 16gb

How can N9005 16GB flash Kitkat and root without break the KNOX?
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cecc500 said:
How can N9005 16GB flash Kitkat and root without break the KNOX?
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Have a look around, there is several threads with this information in it. We cannot spoon feed everyone who is too lazy to look!
radicalisto said:
Have a look around, there is several threads with this information in it. We cannot spoon feed everyone who is too lazy to look!
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Seems there are no method to flash Kitkat without break the knox.I dont really want a custom rom.I want a official rom
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You'll have to wait for the HK update.
Will flashing the CWM trip the KNOX?I find a way in other post but it need to flash a CWM
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cecc500 said:
Will flashing the CWM trip the KNOX?I find a way in other post but it need to flash a CWM
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Have some patience young grasshopper. I'm willing to bet you warranty is more important than your immediate itch to get Kit Kat.
Simply getting Kit Kat will not improve your life in any sense, whether it be family, work or school.

Question about downgrading.

I know its been asked million times now. But how about now? I mean its been 2 months now since kitkat. Did anyone found a way to downgrade from kitkat to jellybean for n9005?
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gidzdlcrz said:
I know its been asked million times now. But how about now? I mean its been 2 months now since kitkat. Did anyone found a way to downgrade from kitkat to jellybean for n9005?
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no still cant be done
Thankyou so much. Awwww. Its been a while now. Still no one can unlock the newbootloader. Oh well.
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gidzdlcrz said:
Thankyou so much. Awwww. Its been a while now. Still no one can unlock the newbootloader. Oh well.
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nope.. really nope..
at the same time (perhaps) somebody try to do, at the same time also sammy release new bootloader. They are now very active in playing with bootloader since the device now got the KNOX flag.

root and custom recovery for att note 3 with kitkat

now that the att note 3 has kitkat, how close are we to getting root and custom recovery?
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Alleredy there
Danno5150 said:
now that the att note 3 has kitkat, how close are we to getting root and custom recovery?
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Ehm,
Alleredy both there from day one?
Just rooted my Note 3 after kitkat update other day. But not knox safe if that is what you want.
are u on att?
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kenny1991 said:
Ehm,
Alleredy both there from day one?
Just rooted my Note 3 after kitkat update other day. But not knox safe if that is what you want.
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can you send me a link or info on how to root KitKat on an att sm-n900a Note 3? i refuse to update unless i find a root for it forst lol :laugh:

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