I have a simple question,
I just bought a Samsung galaxy s4 i9505.
If I root this device, will I still be able to receive OTA-updates when they release the 4.3 firmware for this device?
regards,
Stekkz
Stekkz said:
I have a simple question,
I just bought a Samsung galaxy s4 i9505.
If I root this device, will I still be able to receive OTA-updates when they release the 4.3 firmware for this device?
regards,
Stekkz
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forget about ota updates when rooted.. not recommended to do so..
So when rooted, I first have to reinstall before I can do an OTA update?
Stekkz said:
I have a simple question,
I just bought a Samsung galaxy s4 i9505.
If I root this device, will I still be able to receive OTA-updates when they release the 4.3 firmware for this device?
regards,
Stekkz
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Nope, because you're phone will be under 'custom' instead of official.
robismyname said:
Nope, because you're phone will be under 'custom' instead of official.
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I understand.
So if I ever want to upgrade to the new firmware I first need to install an official firmware again?
yup i also need a answer to that.How will we official status again.Can i backup my stock rom before rooting
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Hi all,
my S4 is currently running stock 4.2.2 MG1 rooted and both the phone and Kies refuse to tell me if there is an upgrade available.
In the past Kies would let me get the OTA but I guess Samsung made some change.
So is there an update available (4.3) for Canadian (I337) S4 and how can I install it ?
Is root available yet ?
Thank you.
Relayers said:
Hi all,
my S4 is currently running stock 4.2.2 MG1 rooted and both the phone and Kies refuse to tell me if there is an upgrade available.
In the past Kies would let me get the OTA but I guess Samsung made some change.
So is there an update available (4.3) for Canadian (I337) S4 and how can I install it ?
Is root available yet ?
Thank you.
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??? If your phone is rooted you do know your NOT suppose to accept OTA or you will ruin phone.
There are plenty of custom 4.3 rooms out there.
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Relayers said:
Hi all,
my S4 is currently running stock 4.2.2 MG1 rooted and both the phone and Kies refuse to tell me if there is an upgrade available.
In the past Kies would let me get the OTA but I guess Samsung made some change.
So is there an update available (4.3) for Canadian (I337) S4 and how can I install it ?
Is root available yet ?
Thank you.
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Not available yet, I am not rooted... no notification kies or ota... (telus)
Reinaldo33897 said:
??? If your phone is rooted you do know your NOT suppose to accept OTA or you will ruin phone.
There are plenty of custom 4.3 rooms out there.
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not really I always installed OTA updates using Kies with my SGS3/SGS4/Note 10.1 , 2 times each at least.
You just loose root access , thats it.
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Not available yet, I am not rooted... no notification kies or ota... (telus)
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Thank you
Hey guys so i have heard that if i install the old firmware for my s4 from sammobile using Odin one from early 2013 that it will give me access to service menu so that i can unlock my phone. So my question is that is it 100% safe to Odin flash the older 4.2.2 rom when i am on 4.3? Can i flash it unlock my phone then upgrade my phone to a custom rom again? Thank you
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Do not do this. This will brick your phone. If I am not mistaken, there is a method to unlock mk2 in the general section.
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zee24 said:
Hey guys so i have heard that if i install the old firmware for my s4 from sammobile using Odin one from early 2013 that it will give me access to service menu so that i can unlock my phone. So my question is that is it 100% safe to Odin flash the older 4.2.2 rom when i am on 4.3? Can i flash it unlock my phone then upgrade my phone to a custom rom again? Thank you
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You should ask this in the t mobile s4 forum. I believe your bootloader is unlocked and you can flash an older firmware version. But check there first. This is the att s4 forum. It can't be done on the at&t s4.
Is the service menu missing on the stock T-mo 4.3 ?
Nooo guys i have an unlocked bootloader i have the s4 that is very similar to the tmobile and it's the same as the Canadian versions. And yes the Canadian version which is 1337m and mine which is m919v don't have access to service menus but i have flashed a lot of custom roms simply by philz recovery so doesn't that mean i have an unlocked bootloader?
zee24 said:
Nooo guys i have an unlocked bootloader i have the s4 that is very similar to the tmobile and it's the same as the Canadian versions. And yes the Canadian version which is 1337m and mine which is m919v don't have access to service menus but i have flashed a lot of custom roms simply by philz recovery so doesn't that mean i have an unlocked bootloader?
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If you're on 4.3 I believe you also have Knox, in which case I don't think you'll be able to go back to 4.2.2. Read through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40903040
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If you're on 4.3 I believe you also have Knox, in which case I don't think you'll be able to go back to 4.2.2. Read through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40903040
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I'm actually running a custom rom i shouldve mentioned im on phoenix rom. So i don't have knox at the moment. Does that matter?
zee24 said:
I'm actually running a custom rom i shouldve mentioned im on phoenix rom. So i don't have knox at the moment. Does that matter?
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Did you ever take the ota to 4.3? Do you know what firmware your device is on? A 4.3 custom Rom wouldn't have knox but if you took the official update to 4.3 you would have Knox.
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Did you ever take the ota to 4.3? Do you know what firmware your device is on? A 4.3 custom Rom wouldn't have knox but if you took the official update to 4.3 you would have Knox.
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Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
zee24 said:
Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
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Idk, I'm not that familiar with your device. From the little bit of reading I've done I would say no, you can't flash an older firmware. But again, I'd post this question in the t mobile forum. They'd be more familiar with your device.
zee24 said:
Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
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Did you ever update you device with kies or ever take an over the air update ? It's fine if you were on a stock based 4.3 rom as long as you never took an official update. If so then you can't go back. Just flashing a stock 4.3 rom won't change that status but the 4.3 bootloader would.
You would have know by checking in settings under SE
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Did you ever update you device with kies or ever take an over the air update ? It's fine if you were on a stock based 4.3 rom as long as you never took an official update. If so then you can't go back. Just flashing a stock 4.3 rom won't change that status but the 4.3 bootloader would. You would have know by checking in settings under SE
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I remember i soft bricked my phone one time and had to flash my firmware but the 4.3 latest one from sammobile and after i did that i got knox but i believe i already tripped the knox counter because in download mode it says 0x1 so i guess i cant?
I hope that you guys have an answer for me....
3 days ago i rooted my S4 I9505 with towelroot https://towelroot.com/. KNOX was not tripped.
i there any way to unroot in the same way, without tripping KNOX, to upgrade it to 4.4.2?
Thanks!
christty31 said:
I hope that you guys have an answer for me....
3 days ago i rooted my S4 I9505 with towelroot https://towelroot.com/. KNOX was not tripped.
i there any way to unroot in the same way, without tripping KNOX, to upgrade it to 4.4.2?
Thanks!
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Yeah. Download the latest firmware 4.4.2 for ur phone in Sammobile.com and flash it through ODIN. Done :highfive:
Joku1981 said:
Yeah. Download the latest firmware 4.4.2 for ur phone in Sammobile.com and flash it through ODIN. Done :highfive:
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And after that it will 4.4.2 unrooted, with the KNOX intact? No operating system or warranty affected?
christty31 said:
And after that it will 4.4.2 unrooted, with the KNOX intact? No operating system or warranty affected?
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on my i9056 i flashed 4.4.2 stock from 4.3 rooted by towelroot throught ODIN and i have KNOX intact now :good:
Official firmwares never trip knox.
It is always safe to flash the OFFICIAL firmware.
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and after 4.4.2 official will be on my I9505 can i root again without tripping KNOX or other problems?
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and after 4.4.2 official will be on my I9505 can i root again without tripping KNOX or other problems?
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No problems buddy.
Towelroot you phone again
But before rooting dont upgrade to knox 2.0. People cant root with towelroot after that update.
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DeepankarS said:
No problems buddy.
Towelroot you phone again
But before rooting dont upgrade to knox 2.0. People cant root with towelroot after that update.
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good
but, if I want to unroot it for different reasons, re-flash again 4.4.2 with Odin if safe?
thanks!
christty31 said:
good
but, if I want to unroot it for different reasons, re-flash again 4.4.2 with Odin if safe?
thanks!
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Why unroot again and again if you have to flash a stock rom?
Just flash a stock rom and youre unrooted
But remember. Knox 2.0 wont let you use towelroot.
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DeepankarS said:
No problems buddy.
Towelroot you phone again
But before rooting dont upgrade to knox 2.0. People cant root with towelroot after that update.
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If knox 2.0 is in 4.4.2 then how can you avoid it when updating to 4.4.2?
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If knox 2.0 is in 4.4.2 then how can you avoid it when updating to 4.4.2?
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Knox 2.0 is not in 4.4.2 it is an update that rolled out a few weeks ago.
Not sure if once in 2.0 it can be downgraded by flashing a previous 4.4.2 rom.
It has many new updates like the pattern lock and simplified method of transfer of data from our phone to the knox containers.
It looks like this now
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Knox 2.0 is not in 4.4.2 it is an update that rolled out a few weeks ago.
Not sure if once in 2.0 it can be downgraded by flashing a previous 4.4.2 rom.
It has many new updates like the pattern lock and simplified method of transfer of data from our phone to the knox containers.
It looks like this now
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I've only updated to 4.4.2, never updated or run knox-i have the app disabled-but it's listed as being 2.0.0 in Manage Apps, with no updates to uninstall as I've not updated it., yet it's still already 2.0.
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I've only updated to 4.4.2, never updated or run knox-i have the app disabled-but it's listed as being 2.0.0 in Manage Apps, with no updates to uninstall as I've not updated it., yet it's still already 2.0.
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Well i call it knox 2.0 because when i had a 100mb upgrade, it stated that your phone is going to upgrade to 2.0 with a kids mode functionality.
Rest even I have never noticed the version no. Just many UI changes from knox 1.0 to 2.0.
Plus Even samsung calls it 2.0. It was stated on the samsung's website that it knew about towel root exploiting the linux kernel and it shall resolve this in an update.
Rest idk what that update was. I clearly remember samsung calling it knox 2.0 upgrade update.
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Well i call it knox 2.0 because when i had a 100mb upgrade, it stated that your phone is going to upgrade to 2.0 with a kids mode functionality.
Rest even I have never noticed the version no. Just many UI changes from knox 1.0 to 2.0.
Plus Even samsung calls it 2.0. It was stated on the samsung's website that it knew about towel root exploiting the linux kernel and it shall resolve this in an update.
Rest idk what that update was. I clearly remember samsung calling it knox 2.0 upgrade update.
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So you had a 100mb non-4.4.2 update? I'm sure you mean knox 2.0 was in the ota for 4.4.2, which I think can be rooted. Are you sure 2.0 can't be towelrooted?
Bingley said:
So you had a 100mb non-4.4.2 update? I'm sure you mean knox 2.0 was in the ota for 4.4.2, which I think can be rooted. Are you sure 2.0 can't be towelrooted?
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Well yes. I am already on 4.4.2. Received the uodate 2 days back.
PURELY KNOX 2.0 update.
Well many people,including my sister did that upgrade and towelroot stopped rooting. And many are complaining now that towelroot has stopped working.
That is why I blame the update.
I cannot use towelroot altogether as it does not work on i9500.
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DeepankarS said:
Well yes. I am already on 4.4.2. Received the uodate 2 days back.
PURELY KNOX 2.0 update.
Well many people,including my sister did that upgrade and towelroot stopped rooting. And many are complaining now that towelroot has stopped working.
That is why I blame the update.
I cannot use towelroot altogether as it does not work on i9500.
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Ok. I can't find any update info you're talking of, especially saying knox uodatebwas 100mb was it an ota or play store update? I didn't think apps updated in such a weird way, no mention of this anyone else that I can find :/
Bingley said:
Ok. I can't find any update info you're talking of, especially saying knox uodatebwas 100mb was it an ota or play store update? I didn't think apps updated in such a weird way, no mention of this anyone else that I can find :/
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OTA update.
http://m.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s4_i9505_gets_an_update_with_kids_mode_and_knox_20-news-8585.php
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OTA update.
http://m.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s4_i9505_gets_an_update_with_kids_mode_and_knox_20-news-8585.php
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Brilliant, thanks. I've been on xxugne8 4.4.2 build date May 21st since I got this phone in the uk about 2 weeks ago but can't find it listed on sam, perhaps I just had an early update? I guess no way to root without typing knox on post-june kernels as towelroot now @google :/
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Brilliant, thanks. I've been on xxugne8 4.4.2 build date May 21st since I got this phone in the uk about 2 weeks ago but can't find it listed on sam, perhaps I just had an early update? I guess no way to root without typing knox on post-june kernels as towelroot now @google :/
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Well maybe. Because samsung was keen on stopping towelroot anyhow. They patched the linux kernels.
You can read samsungs take on towelroot on www.samsungknox.com
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DeepankarS said:
Why unroot again and again if you have to flash a stock rom?
Just flash a stock rom and youre unrooted
But remember. Knox 2.0 wont let you use towelroot.
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ok, so:
upgrade to 4.4.2 with Odin will update it without tripping KNOX, just no to upgrade KNOX to 2.0 when receive this update, and the towelroot will work.
If necessary, for warranty reasons, re-install 4.4.2 with Odin will unroot it and have stock ROM as brand new.
Correct?
I have i rooted S4 I9500 and i can not install official updates OTA, any body can help please
heppojo said:
I have i rooted S4 I9500 and i can not install official updates OTA, any body can help please
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You can't install KIES or OTA updates if you root your phone.
updates
Laserman49 said:
You can't install KIES or OTA updates if you root your phone.
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If I unroot it it will be possible?
which rom you advice me to install for rooted device?
heppojo said:
If I unroot it it will be possible?
which rom you advice me to install for rooted device?
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What exactly do you want mate?
If you flash the official firmware agaim you'll be able to upgrade your phone via kies or get OTA updates.
If you install a custom rom, you wont be able to get anything and in addition burn the knox efuse.
Plus we, at XDA wont recommend you one. You have to search for yourself which rom fits your requirements the best. Each rom has something unique.
Check the developers thread, read about the bugs and fixes and then we think you are wise enough to decide on your own
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official firmware
DeepankarS said:
What exactly do you want mate?
If you flash the official firmware agaim you'll be able to upgrade your phone via kies or get OTA updates.
If you install a custom rom, you wont be able to get anything and in addition burn the knox efuse.
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Dear Friend,
Thank you for your patience
How to re-flash the official firmware again
heppojo said:
Dear Friend,
Thank you for your patience
How to re-flash the official firmware again
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Buddy,
Download it from
www.sammobile.com/firmwares
For your particular model no.(i9500/i9505/i9506 etc.) and flash it via odin.
You are done!
Sorry if I was rude. But nothing like that
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Hi Guy's,
Need help how do I update my rooted s4 4.3 to Kitkat 4.4
jegome said:
Hi Guy's,
Need help how do I update my rooted s4 4.3 to Kitkat 4.4
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Download the official firmware from sammobile.com for your model no.
Flash it via odin
Youre done
But you will loose root access. For that, use towelroot. ^_^
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DeepankarS said:
Download the official firmware from sammobile.com for your model no.
Flash it via odin
Youre done
But you will loose root access. For that, use towelroot. ^_^
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Does towelroot set the device software flash to custom preventing future otas?