I just got my Note 3 and I'm wondering what ROMs I should give a spin.
I tend to like MIUI roms as I had on my note 1, but also paranoid android is really fast and unbloated, I was also wondering what ROMs conserve multiwindow and s-pen features, maybe only samsung based ROMs have those. So yeah, what ROMs do you guys deem worthy?
Try them and see for your self.
I'm on Alliance 4.3, great battery, super smooth, I'm not going to update KitKat anytime soon.
Some are on 4.4 KitKat, they can maybe say a few words.
Why is ROM development so stumped? I thought I'd have TONS of ROMs to choose from like on my Note 1
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Why is ROM development so stumped? I thought I'd have TONS of ROMs to choose from like on my Note 1
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Most important is that the roms and kernels that are out there are all very good You have sammy based roms, AOKP/AOSP and CM11, what more do you want? Plus you have Xposed framework to modify what you want.
I'm with CEPi - I run Alliance, Lean kernel and Philz Touch recovery. As stated it is a 4.3 based ROM so you'd need to see what your phone is as stock. If you're on 4.3, keep in mind if you go KK (4.4) you will be unable to come back. Also if your 4.3 is vMJ7 or above, you WILL blow the Knox counter by rooting, Custom ROM'ing or custom recovery.
If you're on KK already then you are restricted to the KK ROM's - like CEPi I can't comment on them as I see no reason to install a new ROM when Alliance is fast, stable & great battery.
Used X-note, now testing FlexKat.
The entire Dev section consists of roms of someone's choice. Ofcourse, some people prefer a certain rom, some don't. At the end, it is entirely up to you to decide what you like, and this can only be achieved by trying them yourself.
If you need a starting point, most rom's can be classified into two categories, aosp-based and touchwiz-based. You can try one or two on either side to see which category your preference falls in, and then try out some other options in that category.
On that note, thread closed as we do not allow such type of threads here, since they often snowball into heated arguments over personal preference.
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I have read a bit on the topic of ROMs, but I have never rooted or installed a custom ROM until now. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I am just trying to figure out the whole odexed/deodexed deal.
From what I've gathered, deodexed ROMs were originally used to be able to edit things such as status bar colors (clock, notification icons, etc) and even the icons themselves. They boot 'slower' but after the initial boot it is not that recognizable as newer hardware more than compensates for this issue. (I have a Galaxy S5 G900P)
So I have flashed a deodexed ROM onto my phone (R.D.D.T.). Now, this ROM also has an odexed version as well. I assumed that having the deodexed version would allow me to edit icons, colors, etc. However, I'm not quite sure how I can do it.
I have seen and read about people installing custom, deodexed ROMs onto their phones, and many of them (Alliance, X-Note) will come with either an app pre-installed on the ROM, or a ROM-specific menu in Settings. This menu lets them customize things in the way I would like to be able to. The problem is that, at this time, the G900P (Sprint) version of the Galaxy S5 is not supported by either of those ROMs, or many other popular ROMs for that matter. R.D.D.T. (and R.O.D.T as well as the Mystery Build) was one of the only ROMs I could find that explicitly supports the G900P. I like the concept of this ROM, as it seems like a good, no BS bloat-less ROM that is otherwise very close to stock Android. But, I do not believe it came with any ROM-specific way of editing colors, themes, icons, etc. So my question is a few parts I guess:
-Is there still a way (downloadable app, editing files, etc) for me to be able to edit colors on the S5 with this ROM?
-In a situation like this, what is the benefit of having a deodexed ROM installed?
-Are there other ROMs similar to R.D.D.T. that currently support the G900P S5 which additionally offer customization?
-What is it with the Galaxy S5 that is causing so many ROMs to not officially support it?
Sorry for the long post, but my primary aim here is to learn everything that I can about this.
I was all amped up to finally make the leap from just being rooted (OC3) to installing a custom rom (CM 12.1) and spent a bunch of time researching the process and trying to figure out why my attempts to install a custom recovery were all unsuccessful. Then I came here and discovered why (AT&T locks the bootloader).
Now I'm feeling very deflated. Originally I thought I'd get a Nexus phone but I don't like the new Nexus offerings. The next best alternative to me was to pretty much go AOSP with my S4 (eventually moving to CM 13 once that releases for the S4).
So my main question is this: for someone who was interested in going pretty much as stock Android as possible, what's the best option among roms that I can install on my phone, particularly roms which will continue to give my phone life moving forward in terms of updates (marshmallow and beyond)?
And my secondary question is what, if any, reasons are there for me to install a custom rom if I'm not interested in bling? In other words, what are the functional advantages (e.g. enabling tethering, non-broken xposed, eliminating samsung/at&t bloat, etc)?
Appreciate any info and guidance!
I guess I have a 3rd question - is there any hope that we will ever be able to replace the bootloader and install roms like CM? I have no idea if anyone is working on that and it's just a matter of time or if it's considered to be an impossible task.
I can't answer your first question and I'm not sure why you are asking since you aren't able to install proper custom roms anyway..
You don't need a custom rom for a number of things you mention. Removing bloat can speed up your device, save battery, and put an end to some of the annoyances you get from unwanted apps. Xposed is great for customizing your phone and getting rid of that irritating high volume notification.
Finally, no, there is no hope of unlocking the bootloader. The S4 is old so fewer and fewer people care about it. There is a thread about it in the Verizon s4 forum...
My advice : get rid of your S4. Find a phone that uses stock Android and not all this custom TouchWiz rubbish.
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I am just wondering how many people like the actual STOCK rom and cyanogen based ROM
So I am making a poll to see which one get's more vote
P.S this is not related to someone's specific ROM..
As we all know, some people like to keep STOCK as it is and some like modifications and customizations.
Stock means pure stock experience with root (OBviously) and Some like CyanogenMod ROM or based on it.
This is a poll to know what most users like.
Stock in this case means a very stable bug-free ROM with some nice features, like Moto Display. The little bloatware is gone after root. And you cans still get the customizations you want through custom kernels, Layers and/or Xposed !
I'm on a ledge about installing a custom rom (Lineage 16 (or something else)), but I have some questions regarding custom ROMs, any answers are appreciated!
1. Will I be able to use apps that requires a non rooted phone? (I've installed a custom rom on my old phone, and it fails to pass safety net)
2. Will there be OTA updates? (I.e. security patches, bud fixes for that rom)
3. Will it be stable? (I've watched some videos and they say custom ROMs slows down the phone, and have random crashes)
4. Can custom ROMs enable project treble? (Not that it matters, just curious)
5. Are there any compromises with custom ROMs over stock rom? (Just any down sides of custom ROMs)
As a traveller, compatibility is very important, so will custom ROMs have any affect? I.e. booking flights, hotels, transfering stuff.
1) I tried Resurrection Remix, AOSPExtended and now I'm on ArrowOS, no problems with SafetyNet and I've been able to use my banking and payment apps
2) Depends on the ROM, but mostly yes, every ROM is regularly updated
3) I have never experienced a significant crash on a custom ROM, Even 9.0 ROMs are pretty stable as of now, ArrowOS feels much snappier than stock imho
4) Yup, some ROMs here have treble support. There's a guide by CosmicDan that explains how to enable Treble on our device
5) Pretty much everything about having your original firmware VS having a wider range of customization options. I don't think the latter is too risky, but if you don't like it you can always do a backup and go back to stock. Phones like Mi A1 are made for modding and are all about the user's freedom
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1) I tried Resurrection Remix, AOSPExtended and now I'm on ArrowOS, no problems with SafetyNet and I've been able to use my banking and payment apps
2) Depends on the ROM, but mostly yes, every ROM is regularly updated
3) I have never experienced a significant crash on a custom ROM, Even 9.0 ROMs are pretty stable as of now, ArrowOS feels much snappier than stock imho
4) Yup, some ROMs here have treble support. There's a guide by CosmicDan that explains how to enable Treble on our device
5) Pretty much everything about having your original firmware VS having a wider range of customization options. I don't think the latter is too risky, but if you don't like it you can always do a backup and go back to stock. Phones like Mi A1 are made for modding and are all about the user's freedom
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Thanks for the info mate! I bought the Mi A1 because it has a strong modding community.
I have a modding addiction and always want to try something new but with this phone I have to resist.
I ask myself when do I actually want, for me, I flashed my Samsung to get a pure android experience without bloatware, then I have to remind myself, I bought this phone because it is AndroidOne and the little bloatware is easily disabled, I'm actually very happy with the experience.
Next I have to ask myself, what will I gain from modding, and the truth is the only thing I really want is Gcam and honestly I don't really need it.
Sometimes it's hard to resist but I just keep reminding myself I already have all I want, for me I will stay 100% stock until after P when the device becomes unsupported.
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I have a modding addiction and always want to try something new but with this phone I have to resist.
I ask myself when do I actually want, for me, I flashed my Samsung to get a pure android experience without bloatware, then I have to remind myself, I bought this phone because it is AndroidOne and the little bloatware is easily disabled, I'm actually very happy with the experience.
Next I have to ask myself, what will I gain from modding, and the truth is the only thing I really want is Gcam and honestly I don't really need it.
Sometimes it's hard to resist but I just keep reminding myself I already have all I want, for me I will stay 100% stock until after P when the device becomes unsupported.
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I have the exact same "addiction" and i came to the same conclusion: I've bought this phone because its "pure" android so i wont mess with it! Flash a custom of 9.0 just to tell my friends that i got it first? Stock will always be stock, and until the device become unsupported i will stick to it. Then, flashing custom roms will be a addiction again :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Sorry to be kinda off-topic on this but I'd like to ask a question regarding custom ROMs (Treble or not) regarding the Mi A1.
I've tried some of them, and usually what makes me get back to stock is the unlocking delay. There's always a delay when pressing the button and the screen turning on.
Have tried LOS15.1, 2-3 Treble ROMs (I think it's normal that it's like that on every one of the Treble ones if it's a vendor issue) and I think one of the Pie ones.
Am I doing something wrong or is this how it is supposed to be? Is there any Pie ROM that doesn't have that issue?
If there isn't, I don't think it's worth flashing a custom ROM. Untouched Stock with Gcam is pretty neat.
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I have a modding addiction and always want to try something new but with this phone I have to resist.
I ask myself when do I actually want, for me, I flashed my Samsung to get a pure android experience without bloatware, then I have to remind myself, I bought this phone because it is AndroidOne and the little bloatware is easily disabled, I'm actually very happy with the experience.
Next I have to ask myself, what will I gain from modding, and the truth is the only thing I really want is Gcam and honestly I don't really need it.
Sometimes it's hard to resist but I just keep reminding myself I already have all I want, for me I will stay 100% stock until after P when the device becomes unsupported.
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Yeah, I've tried liquid remix 10.0.1, and I must say, sticking to stock is the best. Don't get me wrong, I really like custom roms, but after installing it, I realised that it's not even worth it. Plus, I don't really like to much customisation. You could say I'm more of an apple sheep. I'll probably switch to custom roms once this phone gets outdated. All the custom mods I need is root. For me, the best solution is to stock to the stock rom with root access.
Hi,
I face the same questions as WhatzIt2Ya, the brand new A1 is in front of me, currently empty and up to date with latest October update, and I ask myself what to do.
The phone will be my daily driver, so the encryption is mandatory. That's why I'm sad to see LineageOS Pie has some problems with it as of today. I run LineageOS on my parents' Nexus 5 and it rocks.
We have basically five possibilities:
1. Don't touch anything, keep the original ROM, the locked bootloader, OTA and so on. As long as the security patches arrive, why not. However, no TWRP and no root = no nandroid backups and no Titanium Backup, i.e. I'll lose lots of time in one year to backup the phone and configure it again when I'll take the custom ROM route, and I of course will to keep the phone updated.
2. Just unlock the bootloader. The phone will wipe itself, but that's not a problem, it's empty anyway. TWRP can be installed later to perform the nandroid backup.
3. Install TWRP and keep the stock ROM with root eventually. A fellow developer has figured out how to convert OTA to images installable with TWRP, so basically it's one OTA per month vs one TWRP install per month.
4. Install some custom ROM. Which one?
5. Treblize the phone. That's the future, but are the ROMs ready?
In 2018 Android is still behind Apple regarding backups. I have a work provided iPhone and all I need to do before getting mad is a simple iTunes backup. The phone can be restored in exactly the same state later, without my intervention. On Android I need to figure out how to backup things one by one (icons in folders, call history, SMS, all chats, etc., etc...) and to configure the new phone again.
And with root one loses the possibility to use some banking apps, so we add yet another trick to hide we are rooted. It's fun and rewarding, but takes too much time.
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I'm on a ledge about installing a custom rom (Lineage 16 (or something else)), but I have some questions regarding custom ROMs, any answers are appreciated!
1. Will I be able to use apps that requires a non rooted phone? (I've installed a custom rom on my old phone, and it fails to pass safety net)
2. Will there be OTA updates? (I.e. security patches, bud fixes for that rom)
3. Will it be stable? (I've watched some videos and they say custom ROMs slows down the phone, and have random crashes)
4. Can custom ROMs enable project treble? (Not that it matters, just curious)
5. Are there any compromises with custom ROMs over stock rom? (Just any down sides of custom ROMs)
As a traveller, compatibility is very important, so will custom ROMs have any affect? I.e. booking flights, hotels, transfering stuff.
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Generally well regarded roms like Lineageos which are developed by 'good' developers will be more stable. Some volunteers who develop lineageos builds have a better track record than others. "Official" lineageos requires volunteers to pledge to follow a set of rules which include things like timely updates on major security patches, release updates for x number of months etc. Lineage is generally quite stable because volunteers are working off from a good platform. If you are extra worried about security, you might want to stick with stock because who really has the time to keep reading through the commits even if the code is open sourced?
Lineage has a built in root which will not pass safetynet so don't use it if you want to pass. Or use Magisk to root instead. But Magisk will need regular updates to pass safetynet and its a continuing cat and mouse game where google will fix safetynet and magisk will fail safetynet until the next update.....
Edit- I forgot to add that just unlocking the bootloader will cause safetynet to fail so every Lineageos phone would fail safetynet even if root was not enabled.
If you have to ask about treble, don't do it. Noobs have bricked their phones and there are threads that they have started crying for help.
Custom roms are all developed by volunteers and the level of testing is dodgy - who has time for that when they are working on it in their spare time? Occasionally there might be mistakes and phones will get bricked or lose wifi/BT functionality like one early version of a custom rom which wrote to parts of the firmware which should have been normally left untouched.