sony working with CM on camera... what happened? - Xperia Z1 General

I remember reading that Sony were to work with cyanogem team over improving the camera.
seeing as cm would need custom kernel and that = lose camera.
has nothing further come of the original news?
love my z1 in modified stock, but starting to get a real sense of it ain't gonna get any better here

All in good time, they just got started with the Z Ultra nightlies.
Then there is the impending official 4.3 release on a number of devices this month. All in all Sony have got their hands full at the moment.

One Twelve said:
All in good time, they just got started with the Z Ultra nightlies.
Then there is the impending official 4.3 release on a number of devices this month. All in all Sony have got their hands full at the moment.
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he is talking about the camera issue .... not 10.2 (4.3)

I've never heard about cm working with sony over 'improving the Z1 camera'. Anybody got a source for this ?
The issue as i understand it is can't have a cm without unlocking the boot loader and losing the camera. Unless sony allows that to happen there won't be any working with cm. This would be a first given sony's record over the last year or so.
The Z ultra was launched almost 3 months before the Z1. So I would give this a month or two before wondering whether it will happen or not.
Point ? its too early to be speculating over whether or not this will happen. Z had a stable cm about three months after launch, Z1 will take longer.

Why unlock bl break camera?
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long1988 said:
Why unlock bl break camera?
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bionz image sensor has to do something with drm keys... which are lost when we unlock the bootloader

Sony always help FXP if they request some help but they won't work together to fix something on stock rom!
The camera issue when unlocking BL is something on Sony's end, CM has nothing to do with that.
This is how I understand the story.

babylonbwoy said:
Sony always help FXP if they request some help but they won't work together to fix something on stock rom!
The camera issue when unlocking BL is something on Sony's end, CM has nothing to do with that.
This is how I understand the story.
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Ofcourse it has nothing to do with cm. Unlocking bootloader doesnt mean cm... Its on sonys side.
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marc_ecko28 said:
Ofcourse it has nothing to do with cm. Unlocking bootloader doesnt mean cm... Its on sonys side.
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I just replyed to OP question...

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Will we make it?

Bin4ry quitted the forums although he wanted to crack the Bootloader but do you think we will make it whitout him? I feel like no but we will see
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The developers here did enough without opening the bootloader, so my guess is everything is fine here ( most ROMs here are completed with camera fix ) what more do you want?
And quitted is not the word, he just went into another project.. another challenge
I think we should start another thread about whether to start another thread about this topic
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for 2.2 froyo roms, they are basically completed
for 2.3 gingerbread ones, we just have to wait for the gingerbread update (official) so we can use the kernal and drivers available to make them stable.
I don't think our devices will make it to ice cream though..
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I think we should start another thread about whether to start another thread about this topic
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Lol agreed!
Anyways, I feel if one of the other devs ask him for help he will....so I don't think he will be gone completely
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Uuh ice cream :9
I think Z,J and all great devs are able to port it... when it's released ^^
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Mj what you said is true most roms are complete but there is still more things we can do for example 16 millions color thingy and the device is locked to 32 fps and i'd love to overclock my device and for some people facing the low in call volume issue a fix and all these would be done by unlocking the Bootloader.
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i heard if someone updates to the new and official 2.3 it wil make it even harder to crack the bootloader me personaly i wont update to 2.3 beacause i can use other better roms such as cm7 and arc rom
darksherko said:
i heard if someone updates to the new and official 2.3 it wil make it even harder to crack the bootloader me personaly i wont update to 2.3 beacause i can use other better roms such as cm7 and arc rom
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That's the first I've heard of anything bootloader related to SE's 2.3.3. It might be possible to infer that but otherwise nothing is publicly known. *Maybe* rooting it might be more difficult.
2.3 kernel + CM7 mod >> 2.1 kernel + CM7 Mod
Just IMO (might be different but we won't know until July)
I think we should aware something:
1)Bin4ry doesn't crack the bootloader cause the cracking is...hell
What Tue devs do is to crash the normal booting procredures in order to run our custom kernel(the kexec method)
2)I still blieve that we can soon run custom kernel for daily use
Z is trying his best to do that,he had got the radio,overclockint etc,this will be released once the kernel is ready.
The leaving of Bin4ry is a kind of lost,but it doesn't mean it wont be possible to develop the custom kernel
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L
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I hope z will make it and yeah its hell of a loss he made alot for us like the flashtool sad loss anyways cant wait for the custom kernel being released!!!!
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Bin4ry is a beast, but don't forget about the other devs!! And Bin4ry says hes gonna stay if we donate $200 to him.
Lol hes gonna get more then that if he actually manage out that custom kernel! And this is sad he wants money for his work like most devs but if he really asked it like this "pay me 200$ and i will stay" its eww!
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laill said:
I think we should aware something:
1)Bin4ry doesn't crack the bootloader cause the cracking is...hell
What Tue devs do is to crash the normal booting procredures in order to run our custom kernel(the kexec method)
2)I still blieve that we can soon run custom kernel for daily use
Z is trying his best to do that,he had got the radio,overclockint etc,this will be released once the kernel is ready.
The leaving of Bin4ry is a kind of lost,but it doesn't mean it wont be possible to develop the custom kernel
Cheers,
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Tottaly agree, plus that if j, z or any other dev need some help from bin4ry he helps as fas far as he can.
Didn't mean to make Bin4ry look bad check out this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011941
shahkam said:
this is sad he wants money for his work like most devs but if he really asked it like this "pay me 200$ and i will stay" its eww!
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erm....that is not the case at all.....Andreas (Bin4ry) is actually saying that he does not feel comfortable with the OP of the thread requesting that money is collected for him. Bin4ry did NOT request the $200 at all.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12466249&postcount=11
just want to make that clear.
Yea I realized that I made him look bad, but Bin4ry actually feels uncomfortable with the situation
My bad I worded that badly
It have been cracked by z!!!!!!! Omfg no kidding i saw a comment in the cm7 rom thread where it said z have made it + there was link of the thread omg!!!!
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Dissapointed by the xperia Z

I bought my xperia z and I just loved it..but now after using it for some months I am dissapointed..theres no developer support yet..no good kernels no good roms..performance issues in games such as iron man 3 and little bit about the camera too..but theres no going I have to use it for atleast couple of years hope till then the developers turn towards the xperia z and make it one of the best device..
Note:- just to clear m not really that dissapointed by the hardware its just the support the XZ not geeting..so m not a Sammy or HTC fan but yes I was immpressed by the HTC one its a great device..
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As usual, this type of thread went downhill quickly...
If you're thinking to post here and you have nothing relevant or constructive to add, don't post anything.
If you're simply here to troll and argue, refer again to the above. Thanks.
Hey freind please just no arguing and trolling..I have made this thread so that developers can help.me know that development is going on for our XZ..
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The inevitable always happens on threads like this. Starts of with the intentions of being constructive. Then the trolls step in.
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Ame123 said:
Hey freind please just no arguing and trolling..I have made this thread so that developers can help.me know that development is going on for our XZ..
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wow! looks like you haven't got any life in you...
try this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2083
why install custom roms when the stock is already perfect.
What more development do you want to see, the Doomkernel is great there's 2 dif AOSP/4,2 kernels
Really when I was deciding for a kernel for my ARC, I just went with the best boot logo, why? THEY ALL DID THE SAME THING.
#ArcKnight
Tl;dr :we don't need 200 kernels that do the same thing. I'd rather have a team working on a super kernel, like krabbapels (Carbon team)
OsiBasi said:
What more development do you want to see, the Doomkernel is great there's 2 dif AOSP/4,2 kernels
Really when I was deciding for a kernel for my ARC, I just went with the best boot logo, why? THEY ALL DID THE SAME THING.
#ArcKnight
Tl;dr :we don't need 200 kernels that do the same thing. I'd rather have a team working on a super kernel, like krabbapels (Carbon team)
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So do we have a team like carbon???
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I just had a look a the support the nexus 4 gets...whatever New things come they go straight to the nexus 4 first..kernels like faux kernel Franco etc add tons of New features and perfirmance optimisations..I wanted to have something like that for the xperia z..I think it will take some time as I can understand that developers also have some other works...
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Ame123 said:
I just had a look a the support the nexus 4 gets...whatever New things come they go straight to the nexus 4 first..kernels like faux kernel Franco etc add tons of New features and perfirmance optimisations..I wanted to have something like that for the xperia z..I think it will take some time as I can understand that developers also have some other works...
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It's a very expensive device do you think it's affordable by everyone? The Nexus is quite more old than this one and the fact that they have the same processor might help to port things to this one. If you wanted a phone with lots of devs you should have gone for the Nexus then.
Also the fact that the Sony firmware are really well done makes it difficult to improve anything than just adding gimmicks.
PS. For not being a troll, your last sentence from the op looks quite trolling to me.
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It's a very expensive device do you think it's affordable by everyone? The Nexus is quite more old than this one and the fact that they have the same processor might help to port things to this one. If you wanted a phone with lots of devs you should have gone for the Nexus then.
Also the fact that the Sony firmware are really well done makes it difficult to improve anything than just adding gimmicks.
PS. For not being a troll, your last sentence from the op looks quite trolling to me.
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Thank u..dont get me wrong...I really like my z..
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Ame123 said:
Thank u..dont get me wrong...I really like my z..
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I think you don't know what you want,boring?
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I Purchased this phone to try to get away from flashing a new ROM/Kernel every few days, and I'm not really sure the phone's software needs too much in my opinion.
I'm not saying it's perfect but straight out of the box this phone is pretty good.
If you do wan't to flash lots of mods buy a Nexus device! You will never get the same dev support outside the Nexus community.
I just hope Sony doesn't make me regret buying this phone with their slow update scheme.
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So do we have a team like carbon???
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Yes the Carbon team is developing for their own kernel ans Rom, I think its 8 members.
And f.y.i you shouldn't compare Z with Nexus4. Compare it with HTC1/GS4. They're in same price & release Range.
I think there's somewhat less of threads, but when you look at the actual topics. What so they have that we don't.
I want some optimisations..I dont think that the software is.optimized..for ex iron man 3 lags alot on the XZ dont know if its the game problem.or some thing with the XZ and I dont know about other phones like GS4 or HTC1 as I dont care about them I care about what I have..I want my Z to play every game out there as I think the hardware is.capable of playing them..
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OsiBasi said:
Yes the Carbon team is developing for their own kernel ans Rom, I think its 8 members.
And f.y.i you shouldn't compare Z with Nexus4. Compare it with HTC1/GS4. They're in same price & release Range.
I think there's somewhat less of threads, but when you look at the actual topics. What so they have that we don't.
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Thanks freind..was.good to hear that..
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i think its the game problem because other hd games that i play doesnt have a lag
only in iron man 3 and its not that annoying to me.
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Ame123 said:
Yes exactly I have modern combat 4 and it doesnt lags..its the iron man 3 which has some prblm..
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Then pester the developers of the game, they'll need to fix their game.
Ame123 said:
I want some optimisations..I dont think that the software is.optimized..for ex iron man 3 lags alot on the XZ dont know if its the game problem.or some thing with the XZ
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First you don't know if it's the game or the phone.....
Ame123 said:
Yes exactly I have modern combat 4 and it doesnt lags..its the iron man 3 which has some prblm..
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And 1 hour later you're sure that it's the game and not the phone... that goes fast, I think you just don't know what you want.
I came from the Galaxy Note and there were a lot more custom roms that right, but you're only thinking at one thing:
More options.
More roms doesn't have to mean that things will be optimized, many times it's just a GUI difference, if you just want that why not invest your time learning UCCW the possibilities are endless and the good thing is that you can use the same setup on almost every phone, you can't do that with custom roms.
The biggest downside for me:
Example: Lets say you install Custom rom X made by developer Y, what happens when Developer Y buys another phone and decides not to do anything anymore with Custom rom X, that means no more bug fixes and you're stuck with a rom that isn't supported anymore.
The more custom roms the more chances of that happening.

Android 5 Key Lime Pie

It seems that the version 5 KLP of Android will be optimized for older phones too...
its just rumors
If this rumour is true, don't hold your breath for Sony coming back to us.
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ctinro said:
It seems that the version 5 KLP of Android will be optimized for older phones too...
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even if it was true, we wouldn't get it
you apparently forgot about FXP team... these guys can work miracles, too bad I sold my lovely arc s ;(
The rumors, according to the article behind the bold letters , seem to be true. It's logically for Google to optimize Android for cheap (not necessarily old) phones, having in mind that WP8 for example is really smooth on modest hardware.
But, Hell Yeah, I'm afraid you all are right.
Sony will not come back to us. Two years ago, I had an Xperia X8 and Sony stopped the development to 2.1 Eclair, letting all owners without the native possibility to move apps to SD card. They used the same expression: "SONY cannot guarantee a satisfactorily user experience". Useless to say that the geniuses from XDA developed versions far beyond Gingerbread.
But, hope remains always ...
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you apparently forgot about FXP team... these guys can work miracles, too bad I sold my lovely arc s ;(
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FXP have stopped development, they won't go beyond Jelly Bean.
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popthosegaskets said:
FXP have stopped development, they won't go beyond Jelly Bean.
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sad news.. why???
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popthosegaskets said:
FXP have stopped development, they won't go beyond Jelly Bean.
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and why did they stop? because arc s specifications were not good enough, but now...
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FXP have stopped development, they won't go beyond Jelly Bean.
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But we got now @nobodyAtall he is part of @FXP , he work only on legacy xperias so i hope he will done something for andoroid 5
but have in mind he never relase half finish roms
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But we got now @nobodyAtall he is part of @FXP , he work only on legacy xperias so i hope he will done something for andoroid 5
but have in mind he never relase half finish roms
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Which means lesser manpower, so it will take longer.
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Google announced the new android fw will be called KitKet 4.4
Cheers
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manufacters dont bother when its time to update their phones, they only want sell a new one, im tired of android, i will sell my arc s, its sad because im waiting for Firefox OS but...
maybe i will bought one Nexus 4, and maybe it will have firefox support!
great
pren22 said:
Google announced the new android fw will be called KitKet 4.4
Cheers
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very nice banner bro
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very nice banner bro
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Off topic a bit,but ...
Thank you,yours is better.

Sony Z Play Edition

So I just saw that the Sony Z Play edition is now available. I can't confirm because the Play Store Link isn't usable in my country.
If this is true does it mean we can pull the core rom from the the Sony Z edition and use it to help CM etc?
It's only the Z Ultra. And yes, Z Ultra GPE software will run on the Z Ultra without modifications. Will also really speed up Z1 development. For the Z there's not that much of an advantage.
I can only find mention of a Google edition Z Ultra, not a Z.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=sony_z_ultra
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Yup, My bad, Like I said couldn't hit the link to verify. So I take it not much software can be ported to the z?
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Yup, My bad, Like I said couldn't hit the link to verify. So I take it not much software can be ported to the z?
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Nope, and there's not much point. The Z is very easy to develop for (there already are fully stable KitKat builds) and has a lot of hardware that's similar to the Nexus 4 which helps a huge lot.
Ambroos said:
Nope, and there's not much point. The Z is very easy to develop for (there already are fully stable KitKat builds) and has a lot of hardware that's similar to the Nexus 4 which helps a huge lot.
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Oh I did not know that about the Nexus 4, I'm running CM11 and its super stable and I love it.
Will a dump of this be able to be flashed onto the locked down t-mobile c6606?
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Will a dump of this be able to be flashed onto the locked down t-mobile c6606?
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Of course not. Completely different phones.
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Could it be tweaked to be flashed on the locked down XZ?
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But I mean the ROM AOSP made by Google is gonna be a huge difference.. Its not cm11 or aopk is just a nice and clean stock room, I Hope to see a port or this room.
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If you want clean AOSP rom we already have one, but mod delete his thread, don't ask me why..
http://www.blinkenlights.ch/ccms/android/yuga.html
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zai89 said:
If you want clean AOSP rom we already have one, but mod delete his thread, don't ask me why..
http://www.blinkenlights.ch/ccms/android/yuga.html
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Do this AOSP rom come with support Bravis Engine 2?
Yeah did u try it @zai89 un asking cuz some pll claim that room is slower than some cm bases, besides is kinda hard to install.
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Yeah did u try it @zai89slower, kinda hard to install.
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Slower? No, its better then early unofficial CM nightly..
Hard to install?, its only take few minutes to learn about adb and fastboot.. And you can use that knowledge for ever.
N ever...
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is there a way to install this vanilla rom on the xperia z with a locked bootloader?
it is stock after all.
Don't think so. you need unlocked bootloader since you have to flashboot the img first
zai89 said:
If you want clean AOSP rom we already have one, but mod delete his thread, don't ask me why..
http://www.blinkenlights.ch/ccms/android/yuga.html
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Is there any video of that aosp running updated?
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I have the t mobile xperia z and I was hoping that because its a stock rom from sony the bootloader can be locked cause its same kernel and stuff from sony.
made sense to just be able to flash it.
it sucks there is no international LTE version that suits the US t mobile with unlockable bootloader.
I talked to sony and they say t mobile locked the bootloader which doesn't make sense!
maybe I should do a warranty exchange and talk to sony before hand and ask to get another with LTE and unlockable bootloader.

[Q&A] ...::Xperia Overlay::... (10.03.2014)

*** Xperia Overlay ***
First of all hello my friend's and SDE users
You are all asking your self why is this thread called Xperia Overlay
It's called Xperia Overlay because it's the future version of SDE (Somc Debrand Engine)
MOD EDIT
And i am glad to introduce it with you and it has only ONE RULE ...
1. USE THIS THREAD AS A DISCUSSION
As you may all know that autor and dev @Achotjan is prepraing a news about this new project but everything in its time
As you all now past one and a half month we are all talking about new Xperia 4.4.2 rom with Sony overlay ..
Some of you are saying " No No it's a lie or It can't be done "
I will just say look and be amazed
Here are the screenshot's from the last tested build .. you will se what features have been ported and i hope that you like it...
I Know that development is taking long but please be patient
I hope this screenshots will make the waiting a litle bit easyer
And Remember this is not themed Rom it's bulid from SOURCE !!
Ok , look at the screan and be blown away :cyclops:
SCREENSHOTS :
SCREENSHOT's 1#
Awesome!
Awesome is an understatement. Eagerly waiting for the release please!
Wow its really a nice thread so at last my LT18i will be getting 4.4 kk
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is HDMI works with this rom?
I can't believe my eyes :laugh:
great, just great
you guys make great work, keep it up, Perfect! :good:
Aciong.Aksaya said:
is HDMI works with this rom?
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Not for now ... this rom is based on AOSP source so no HDMI for now
theanelfro said:
I can't believe my eyes :laugh:
great, just great
you guys make great work, keep it up, Perfect! :good:
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Thanks .. So any wishes guys ?
I hope this rom is fast and not lagy...
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awawi said:
I hope this rom is fast and not lagy...
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I can say this rom is flaying and boot up time i impressive
:laugh: either i need spectacles for my eyes or is it really the Xperia Lockscreen!
And the Ascent color too!??
@MarioJerkovic I know this may sound a bit selfish, but if you want someone to help you beta test it to XS, count on me I hope for Sony camera app (the stock Sony 4.1.2 is more than okay).
Oh, wait, is this for Arc?
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how about battery life?
super stamina
super stamina?
Omg looks like an official fw update ... screenies are amazing....
The online thing I would like to see is the kk gradient status bar and camera blobs used in aosp 4.4.2 ROM by billchen1977 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2592002)that have no purple tint issue in XS
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I hope you release a build for xperia s users. thanks man.
How about stamina mode? Is it working or same as SDE 4.1.2?
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great job bro.. i'll try.. :good:
Felimenta97 said:
@MarioJerkovic I know this may sound a bit selfish, but if you want someone to help you beta test it to XS, count on me I hope for Sony camera app (the stock Sony 4.1.2 is more than okay).
Oh, wait, is this for Arc?
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First wee need somme support when Xperia Overlay released so we can buy Xperia 2012 phone so that dev can start but dont worry you wont be forgoten
iztnie said:
how about battery life?
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About battery life .... hmm i have been using this rom 1,5 day and got 60% of battery
daihieplanhlung said:
super stamina?
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Yep there will be supper stamina but we have to wait till the Xperia Z2 kernel source is released to get super stamina support

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