Can I update from Stock 4.3 using Xposed framework? I don't want to lose root or xposed, so do I have to reset first or what? Anybody know? thanks!:highfive:
When in doubt, return to stock
sinnerghost said:
Can I update from Stock 4.3 using Xposed framework? I don't want to lose root or xposed, so do I have to reset first or what? Anybody know? thanks!:highfive:
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here we go again, whats the big deal in just waiting for a rooted 4.4 stock rom to come out... Sorry dont mean to be an ass about it just see so many of these threads and dont understand why people just dont wait for there favorite developer to put something together
Edit but to answer your question No you cant and since we are unsure of how to root 4.4 right now there may or may not be some issues at first
playya said:
here we go again, whats the big deal in just waiting for a rooted 4.4 stock rom to come out... Sorry dont mean to be an ass about it just see so many of these threads and dont understand why people just dont wait for there favorite developer to put something together
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I understand what you mean but really who's gonna wait for a developer to release a rom of the latest android version when they can run stock/rooted stock of the newest version as soon as its released? sure custom roms have more features fix bugs etc. but if your that impatient you don't wanna wait around I know I didn't it took Cyanogen almost 3 months to release 4.3
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I understand what you mean but really who's gonna wait for a developer to release a rom of the latest android version when they can run stock/rooted stock of the newest version as soon as its released? sure custom roms have more features fix bugs etc. but if your that impatient you don't wanna wait around I know I didn't it took Cyanogen almost 3 months to release 4.3
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I wait because if I wanted stock I would already be on it and enjoy that life. I have been around for a while and see a lot of people destroy their phones trying to resort back to stock and then get stuck there because of root issues or bootloader issues. Not saying thats an issue here but you guys act like a rooted version after a few days is going to kill you. Look its just my opinion from what I have seen around here. Root/unroot/root again... ehhh
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506770
Case in Point here
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Just wondering, if I were to flash to a custom rom, such as Thor... then a few months later ICS comes out for our tablets, what would the upgrade process entail?
I'm hesitant to try a custom rom, because when ICS finally comes I don't want there to be extra steps in order to get the update.
Anyone know how difficult/easy this is going to be? Will it involve having to flash back to stock first, then OTA to ICS?
TIA!
davanw said:
Just wondering, if I were to flash to a custom rom, such as Thor... then a few months later ICS comes out for our tablets, what would the upgrade process entail?
I'm hesitant to try a custom rom, because when ICS finally comes I don't want there to be extra steps in order to get the update.
Anyone know how difficult/easy this is going to be? Will it involve having to flash back to stock first, then OTA to ICS?
TIA!
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Not trying to be rude but honestly, if youre afraid of a few extra steps than rooting and android is not for you. I suggest an apple product.
But to answer your question, when official ICS comes out OTA Im sure devs will create custom roms that you can just flash. I mean we already have ICS ports in the works.
Why would you want crappy OTA ICS when you could have a faster, custom rom ICS .
jon-.- said:
Not trying to be rude but honestly, if youre afraid of a few extra steps than rooting and android is not for you. I suggest an apple product.
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Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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From what Ive read (search function), you can update from a custom rom but you will lose root.
davanw said:
Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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If u rely on this day to day, u do NOT want to flash an ICS rom yet. Not even close for day to day use.Stick with what u have and just be patient.
christianpeso said:
If u rely on this day to day, u do NOT want to flash an ICS rom yet. Not even close for day to day use.Stick with what u have and just be patient.
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I agree wait for the kinks to be worked out.
If you rely on this device pretty heavily, and you still want to get ICS when it comes out, I would just recommend flashing a custom ROM now that is known to be pretty stable. like you suggested, Thor's ROM seems to be a great one. It definitely improves the speed of the tablet and I have yet to come across any bugs that would inhibit my everyday use. Then, once developers have worked out a ROM for a relatively stable version of ICS, you shouldn't have any trouble switching to that and not worrying about the OTA updates.
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Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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Well, if you're familiar with all that, then you already know how to flash an OEM ROM and would know you already knew how to do it.
can be a bit of a pain going back to stock ota updates. Depends on availability of your devices localized stock rom.( or being able to backup stock rom first). Took me about 5 days to find the right files and steps to get ota working again. Didnt help that i am a total newbie, the iconia is my first android device never flashed anything before except a pc bios. Do your research first and make sure you can go back instead of getting stuck. Here is a link to get you started http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155664 another thing when you go back to stock you also go to the back of the line in the update queue as well. I was on 3.2.1 went back to 3.1 got ota updates up to 3.2 but have not recieved 3.2.1 update again yet cheers.
blucmal said:
another thing when you go back to stock you also go to the back of the line in the update queue as well. I was on 3.2.1 went back to 3.1 got ota updates up to 3.2 but have not recieved 3.2.1 update again yet cheers.
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Now THAT is very interesting. Thanks!
DISCLAIMER: this is not another generic speculation thread just to throw around guesses about dates for the 4.3 release. yes, i am asking you to speculate, but i have a legitimate reason for posing this question, so please, do not troll and/or flame. thank you.
so my nexus 4 arrived today. i'm eagerly awaiting getting out of work so i can get home and get to playing with it. i absolutely intend to unlock, root and flash a custom recovery/rom/kernel. however, word is that 4.3 is set to release on june 10th (or thereabouts) which is this monday. i'd hate to take the time to do all of the aforementioned things, only to have to reflash stock shortly thereafter in order to grab the OTA.
do you think 4.3 will actually drop this week, and as such, i should wait before going flash crazy?
or i guess an even better question is the one posed in the thread title. if i flash a custom rom now, how long before the rom will update to 4.3? i'm going with PA and probably the latest franco. can't wait to play around with halo!
as soon as the source is out.... they'll be out with custom roms with the very basic stuff like deodexed, superuser and such
no go flash crazy, enjoy it while you can. even when 4.3 is out, it'll take time to backport all the existing customization and features to 4.3
Do this unlock the bootloader flash custom recovery flash SU zip then make a nandroid backup then flash any ROM kernel or mod you want. If the ota comes out then you can just flash your backup and install ota with no problems.
Roms will be updated usually with in a few days after the source is released just because the ota is released doesn't mean the source is out
Sent from my Nexus 4
I would'nt bother waiting.. since google editions of other phones have been launched it means the wait will be longer, since they will have to all get the update together so as not to advantage one phone over the other... now i hear sony is have a google editon too, the wait will be even longer still.
meangreenie said:
I would'nt bother waiting.. since google editions of other phones have been launched it means the wait will be longer, since they will have to all get the update together so as not to advantage one phone over the other... now i hear sony is have a google editon too, the wait will be even longer still.
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The ota will be out first for nexus devices then it will be released to GE phones.
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spaceman860 said:
Do this unlock the bootloader flash custom recovery flash SU zip then make a nandroid backup then flash any ROM kernel or mod you want. If the ota comes out then you can just flash your backup and install ota with no problems.
Roms will be updated usually with in a few days after the source is released just because the ota is released doesn't mean the source is out
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duh... this is the perfect solution. why didn't i think of that? thanks, dude!
Again, sorry if this is in the wrong place but i dont know who else to ask but you guys.
I originally got my galaxy s4 (AT&T) when it first came out and couldnt wait to root and flash. A couple months later i had to do a warranty exchange just to figure out that it came preinstalled with MF3 (damn mf3) i ended up rooting and like most of you guy who arent/wouldnt be able to flash probably are bored. I then had to do another warranty exchange and when i powered the phone on i went to the more tab in settings and the "about device" was blue not yellow. I knew the phone was on an older firmware and i did confirm it to be on MDL (Sigh of relief) right away i started to root and downloading roms. i havent flashed any yet. My question is, on my stock rom (i am rooted) i keep getting a message. the the red and blue arrows for a new software (its that damn mf3) I DONT WANT IT!!! lol is there any way to stop it from asking me. i keep postponing it but i rerad somewhere u can only do that so much, im all nervous that im gonna wake up one morning and see MF3 took over my phone again lol.
sorry for the essay, if anyone has any info on how to stop it from asking that would be very much appreciated!!!
Thanks,
Dave
This should got in the QA forum. You can download a custom rom to get rid of the message or a freeze a few apps. If I were you, I'd get a custom rom, otherwise why would you care about not having MF3.
ddix585 said:
Again, sorry if this is in the wrong place but i dont know who else to ask but you guys.
sorry for the essay, if anyone has any info on how to stop it from asking that would be very much appreciated!!!
Thanks,
Dave
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Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268946
Good luck
And for future, please post in Q & A section.
Or do this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41424569&postcount=4
And i would freeze those apps right away like the 2 links that were post it on top if not MF3 will automatically update you phone so you need to hurry and do this Good Luck!
Custom ROM and MF3
visuelz said:
This should got in the QA forum. You can download a custom rom to get rid of the message or a freeze a few apps. If I were you, I'd get a custom rom, otherwise why would you care about not having MF3.
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So if i do flash a custom rom i dont need to worry about it asking or updating on its own. i just flashed vision x ROM TW with Ktoones Kernel and i am loving the rom so far. But if i just keep a custom rom i dont have to worry about the update doing it by itself or freezing it?
Thanks to all the answers,
David
ddix585 said:
So if i do flash a custom rom i dont need to worry about it asking or updating on its own. i just flashed vision x ROM TW with Ktoones Kernel and i am loving the rom so far. But if i just keep a custom rom i dont have to worry about the update doing it by itself or freezing it?
Thanks to all the answers,
David
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That is correct, good sir. If you froze the update apps/apks you will not be prompt for an update.
However, if you do end up odin'ing your phone for some reason, be sure to quickly block the update by rooting your phone and freeze once again. Odin removes root
Enjoy your custom rom as you are one of the lucky ones still on the old MDL update :good:
So, finally got my G3 back, its bumped & running (the stable and quick) Cloudy.
But there's obviously the temptation to jump to the latest OS, but given that its Art not DVK and Xposed won't run (along with tweekbox etc) then its not looking like its worth it.
Although there does appear to be rooted options available now, but is are they really worth it? Is it any better? what differences are there?
And will my bumped bootloader still work ok or did it need to call home for the bump servers to run?
oh so many questions, anyone got any answers?
My thoughts are that I'll probably just hang back and stick with good old stable Cloudy. Unless you can persuade me otherwise.
cheers
The available lollipop roms don't even look complete so I'm going to hold off a while.
Dear OP, instead of making a new thread you could have asked the same in the Lollipop discussion thread which has been made sticky purposely to avoid threads like these. Thank you.
almost made the jump last night as I got stuck with the "unable to contact google" and ended up having to reflash Cloudy to get the bloody thing to work (tried everything, reinstalling apks, modding the hosts, etc but no dice)
Now its running happily again.
And why didn't I post this in the lollypop sticky, to be honest I missed the thing! (again) my bad.
Also in the same situation, except I'm on stock ROM and waiting to decide either to flash a ROM of kitkat or wait till Cm 12 is stable..
Also would like to see your questions answered..
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Also in the same situation, except I'm on stock ROM and waiting to decide either to flash a ROM of kitkat or wait till Cm 12 is stable..
Also would like to see your questions answered..
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I also have been on stock until yesterday. I did root and bumped. Change the horrible minfree and dpi, installed adaway, greenify and updated to lollipop. Well I havent done much testing, but for now I didnt encounter a single problem. It's more fluid and looking really good with Lollipop Theme. If you don't like you can always easily go back I dont really see the point to ask is it worth it. Just do it. For me it was like 15 min. And if not liking always have a backup!
just wondering if there is a way to get root on this tablet .. or can i just downgrade with odin to kitkat for root with chainfire?? just wondering .. Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-4/development/smnu-lp-touchwiz-5-1-1-kernel-rootable-t3164499
all you need to know..
Worked great for me, installed the Kernel with the fixed IR blaster and I have root.
Since XPosed doesn't work though, I don't quite know what fun things I can do with root. I used to love tweaking things with XPosed, eliminated the need for a custom ROM for minor stuff but with 5.1.1 I haven't found much to do with root yet.
Oh I was able to use titanium to backup my apps, that was exciting
I might just sell the Tab 4 and get a Nexus instead, at least I can get the latest Android quickly with that.
Nic2112 said:
Worked great for me, installed the Kernel with the fixed IR blaster and I have root.
Since XPosed doesn't work though, I don't quite know what fun things I can do with root. I used to love tweaking things with XPosed, eliminated the need for a custom ROM for minor stuff but with 5.1.1 I haven't found much to do with root yet.
Oh I was able to use titanium to backup my apps, that was exciting
I might just sell the Tab 4 and get a Nexus instead, at least I can get the latest Android quickly with that.
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I tried and worked my ass off to attempt to produce a Deodexed version of this rom.. Deodexing is easy, but packaging the rom and with a proper Update Script is something that is at this time beyond my skill set.. I have been working in Ubuntu using ArchiKitchen and had some success, but It won't boot.. So I decided to give my tablet to a friend to use for a while.. I went back to my Trusty Nexus 7 to which is super easy to develop for.. Everyone has quit the T330NU as far as I know, and I just don't have the patients or the time.. Everyone is going back to school this fall and THEY don't have the time.. There will no more development for this device unless some new blood comes into the picture.. My suggestion, sell your tablet on Ebay and buy a Nexus 9..
Edit: My suggestion, Use ODIN to flash the Stock 4.4.2 and use the Chainfire Autoroot.. There is a old Stock rom floating around called Stocked.. I suggest using that.. Its the best we have.. The best we will ever have..
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I tried and worked my ass off to attempt to produce a Deodexed version of this rom.. Deodexing is easy, but packaging the rom and with a proper Update Script is something that is at this time beyond my skill set.. I have been working in Ubuntu using ArchiKitchen and had some success, but It won't boot.. So I decided to give my tablet to a friend to use for a while.. I went back to my Trusty Nexus 7 to which is super easy to develop for.. Everyone has quit the T330NU as far as I know, and I just don't have the patients or the time.. Everyone is going back to school this fall and THEY don't have the time.. There will no more development for this device unless some new blood comes into the picture.. My suggestion, sell your tablet on Ebay and buy a Nexus 9..
Edit: My suggestion, Use ODIN to flash the Stock 4.4.2 and use the Chainfire Autoroot.. There is a old Stock rom floating around called Stocked.. I suggest using that.. Its the best we have.. The best we will ever have..
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Thank you for taking the time to reply. I was actually looking at how much I can have for it and use that money to partly pay for a Nexus 9. I was already saving up for one but someone gave me the T330NU for free so I could not say no of course. I did not expect that there would be almost nothing for it on XDA.
I'll take a look at that "Stocked" ROM. It's downloading right now. It'll be that or pure stock 5.1.1 without root since there isn't much to do with root on that version anyways.
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Thank you for taking the time to reply. I was actually looking at how much I can have for it and use that money to partly pay for a Nexus 9. I was already saving up for one but someone gave me the T330NU for free so I could not say no of course. I did not expect that there would be almost nothing for it on XDA.
I'll take a look at that "Stocked" ROM. It's downloading right now. It'll be that or pure stock 5.1.1 without root since there isn't much to do with root on that version anyways.
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To flash stock, you need to Flash the official Samsung 4.4.2 firmware first through ODIN, flash recovery and flash Chainfire's Autoroot..
Then you can flash Stocked.. Its pretty decent, but the guy who developed it.. up and quit.. Seems like a common thing for this device..
It's cursed.. From here on in.. I will NEVER purchase another Samsung device again.. Either HTC or LG.. Never Samsung..
Zaphodspeaks said:
To flash stock, you need to Flash the official Samsung 4.4.2 firmware first through ODIN, flash recovery and flash Chainfire's Autoroot..
Then you can flash Stocked.. Its pretty decent, but the guy who developed it.. up and quit.. Seems like a common thing for this device..
It's cursed.. From here on in.. I will NEVER purchase another Samsung device again.. Either HTC or LG.. Never Samsung..
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I'm trying to download the stock 4.4.2 firmware but all I'm getting are those free/premium download sites where either doesn't download or downloads at 10k per second. I'll find it though and I'm putting the tablet in the classifieds as I do that
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I'm trying to download the stock 4.4.2 firmware but all I'm getting are those free/premium download sites where either doesn't download or downloads at 10k per second. I'll find it though and I'm putting the tablet in the classifieds as I do that
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I have it on my Android host account.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95887005526787215
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I have it on my Android host account.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95887005526787215
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Wow awesome, thank you. Will take 2 minutes instead of a couple days!
Happy to help!
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Happy to help!
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The Auto-Root doesn't install, phil's recovery just unpacks the file and says installation aborted.
I tried to install TWRP via ODIN but it doesn't work, when I boot to recovery all I get is a black screen.
EDIT : Never mind, got TWRP to work now.
EDIT 2 : CF-AR is ODIN flashable... DUh!
DONT FLASH THE ZIP!! Unzip it, and flash the .TAR.MD5, in ODIN..
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Everything worked and I even forgot how fast applications install on Dalvik. Definitely more options for Xposed so some satisfaction in having root!
I'll still try to sell it for 250$ with the 64GB memory car I have for it. Won't pay for a Nexus 9 but will cover most of it. I love that the N9 is made by HTC, definitely my brand, I just wish it was smaller. Love the format of the N7 except for the wide bezel.
Well I got lucky last night, maybe a week or 2 so I will have a Stock Deodexed LP ROM coming..
Not to get your hopes up.. I got lucky last nite with the update script.. Step by step.. Right now its just a recompiled rom from the TAR to Zip..
I will work on Deodexing, then debloating, making one full install, and one lite.. That will be Deknoxed.. Edit, Rooted as well..
Edit: I still have a ways to go..
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Well I got lucky last night, maybe a week or 2 so I will have a Stock Deodexed LP ROM coming..
Not to get your hopes up.. I got lucky last nite with the update script.. Step by step.. Right now its just a recompiled rom from the TAR to Zip..
I will work on Deodexing, then debloating, making one full install, and one lite.. That will be Deknoxed.. Edit, Rooted as well..
Edit: I still have a ways to go..
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Pardon the noobness but what will deodexing allow ?
Google is your friend.
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Google is your friend.
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Well hopefully you are able to put something together...
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Well hopefully you are able to put something together...
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Right now I have 3 versions that I'm working on, but since I'm not at my Desktop and away from home, even though its just on the other side of town.. Ill be back monday.. I have all 3 versions ready to test.. Since I'm not home I can't test them.. They will be ready when I'm sure I got everything.. Once released I will then in time make add ons .
I'm currently running and testing the Stock, Deodexed only for the moment.. I will be using Moonbutt74's Kernel, or just make it a flashable addon.. I havent decided.. I don't like the idea of taking someone elses work and injecting it into mine.. I'm on vacation so Ill be busy for a few days.. I have one glitch that didn't come out well during the Deodexing process.. Google drive was popping up and force closing.. So I had to uninstall it.. So I might just add that to the debloat list.. Once I'm confident this is all good.. I'll create my own thread.. I'm temped to send a teaser, but I want to bring it out knowing it works as good as it should..
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Right now I have 3 versions that I'm working on, but since I'm not at my Desktop and away from home, even though its just on the other side of town.. Ill be back monday.. I have all 3 versions ready to test.. Since I'm not home I can't test them.. They will be ready when I'm sure I got everything.. Once released I will then in time make add ons .
I'm currently running and testing the Stock, Deodexed only for the moment.. I will be using Moonbutt74's Kernel, or just make it a flashable addon.. I havent decided.. I don't like the idea of taking someone elses work and injecting it into mine.. I'm on vacation so Ill be busy for a few days.. I have one glitch that didn't come out well during the Deodexing process.. Google drive was popping up and force closing.. So I had to uninstall it.. So I might just add that to the debloat list.. Once I'm confident this is all good.. I'll create my own thread.. I'm temped to send a teaser, but I want to bring it out knowing it works as good as it should..
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That's a lot of progress, very encouraging. I put my T330NU for sale, trying to get 250$ for it but I might not get more than 200 which is fine, it'll cover the cost for a Nexus 7
Nic2112 said:
That's a lot of progress, very encouraging. I put my T330NU for sale, trying to get 250$ for it but I might not get more than 200 which is fine, it'll cover the cost for a Nexus 7
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I still use my Nexus 7 2013 with a always fresh copy of Blisspop.. I will hold on to that tablet until it croaks..
I use it mainly as a Internet Diagnostic tool..