Nexus 4 / HDCP & Capture - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What I'm looking to do is record and possibly stream the screen of my Nexus 4. I've read a lot on HDCP and how it would prevent me from doing this out of the box. Before this I wasn't familiar with HDCP and how it functioned so I'm glad I had this learning experience. I do have a couple of questions however.
It is to my assumption that a setup like this would work:
Nexus 4 ->
SlimPort Adapter ->
HDMI to DVI Cable ->
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2661&seq=1&format=2
A converter like this -->
http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?c...d=1011405&p_id=5369&seq=1&format=1#largeimage
HDMI Cable ->
AVermedia Live Gamer HD card.
What my Googling hasn't answered though is how exactly HDCP is lost in the process. Could I skip out on the converter all together and just go with a crazy manufactured cable? Something like this...
Nexus 4 ->
SlimPort Adapter ->
HDMI to DVI Cable ->
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2661&seq=1&format=2
Male HDMI to Female DVI connector ->
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041902&p_id=2080&seq=1&format=2
AVermedia Live Gamer HD card
I guess I'm just lost in how HDCP is lost in the process and I'd like to get myself set up with something as least confusing as possible. I'm aware that DVI cables cannot carry HDCP; however, I am not sure as far as how the protection is generated. Some people in forum posts have recommended splitters; however, when I read reviews, I hear that they're not as advertised anymore. The new splitters no longer strip HDCP. Thanks in advance for any knowledge. :good:

I'm trying to do the exact same thing you're doing right now. I have a nexus 4 and I picked up a SlimPort Adapter. Connected to my AverMedia LGP and I cannot get it to work for the life of me. I'm going to assume you need the converter that you mentioned earlier. I'm going to pick one up tomorrow, I hate this.

DO NOT BUY LGP, IT WILL NOT WORK. You need an internal card or just shell out the money and buy this http://www.solarisjapan.com/xcapture-1-usb-3-0-hd-capture-unit/

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Micro-USB Extention Cable + Slimport = Success!

If you're wondering if it's possible to use a Micro-USB extension cable with a Slimport adapter the answer is yes! I have successfully used one to connect my Nexus 4 to a Slimport SP1002 adapter, then connect that via HDMI to my Pioneer SPH-DA100 car stereo.The bulky adapter with its myriad of connections and super short cable to connect to my phone is now hidden under the center console.
I can't post links yet, to find the cable I used Google "angledcables" micro-b usb extension
Just curious, why do you use MyDP to connect to your car's headunit? movies for the kids? GPS?
karasuhebi said:
Just curious, why do you use MyDP to connect to your car's headunit? movies for the kids? GPS?
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GPS, and as a workaround for the poor audio output of the Nexus 4. Although the ability to watch Netflix while waiting in the car is nice, too.
theexgov said:
GPS, and as a workaround for the poor audio output of the Nexus 4. Although the ability to watch Netflix while waiting in the car is nice, too.
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hmmm... this didnt work for me with
Black 3 Foot USB 2.0 USB Micro B Male 5 Pin to USB Micro B Female 5 Pin Cable
by YCS basics
from amazon
but I'll order the other one and try it because it would be so much better if i could extend the slimport rather than hang that whole thing from my phone
it works!!!!!!
The cable from amazon did not work but the cable from angledcables.com worked! Even though the envelope says usbfirewire.com, they have different models of micro usb cables
I got the 12 inch version of :
Item #: RR-MCB-EXT-XXG5
and i can CONFIRM it is WORKING for AppRadio 3 as an extension between the phone and Slimport adapter.
I suppose it's a hit or miss depending on if the company wired the 4th pin through (Which is usually used for OTG) or not. Slimport uses all 5 pins.
lopezk38 said:
I suppose it's a hit or miss depending on if the company wired the 4th pin through (Which is usually used for OTG) or not. Slimport uses all 5 pins.
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After a few days I had to disconnect the extension because it makes things way too unstable. The slightest bump stops the video signal. You have to totally remove it and plug it back in before it works again. I might try a few things to fasten the connectors together but I might just go without it.
drinklime said:
After a few days I had to disconnect the extension because it makes things way too unstable. The slightest bump stops the video signal. You have to totally remove it and plug it back in before it works again. I might try a few things to fasten the connectors together but I might just go without it.
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Sorry to revive an old thread. Did you get this sorted out?
I'm in same situation. I just got Pioneer AVH-x8500BHS and SlimPort adapter to mirror from my N5 to the x8500 HU.
But the Slimport is in my glovebox, I want to move it to my center console for easier access and better GPS signal.
I'm afraid all this plugging/unplugging of the SlimPort will eventually wear out the cable or the N5 port.
Anyone ever figure out a way to get the extension to work without it cutting in and out all the time?
theexgov said:
If you're wondering if it's possible to use a Micro-USB extension cable with a Slimport adapter the answer is yes! I have successfully used one to connect my Nexus 4 to a Slimport SP1002 adapter, then connect that via HDMI to my Pioneer SPH-DA100 car stereo.The bulky adapter with its myriad of connections and super short cable to connect to my phone is now hidden under the center console.
I can't post links yet, to find the cable I used Google "angledcables" micro-b usb extension
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Hi there!I know this is old post,but can you please tell me if you remember,can you use de 2Din touchscreen by doing this or you also need to get another app?I am trying to get it going,but I have one Huawei Mate 20 pro and I have bought something similar to what you post here and is not working....any ideas?
Thank you!

Video Out?

I read I need a slimport adapter to get video out of my Nexus 4. I got an MHL adapter with a little slimport converter. My Nexus 4 doesn't seem to take the slimport connector (which has an extra little tab on it), but the MHL fits. I can't seem to get video out working though. Does it only work at certain times or do I have to activate it somehow? Has anyone gotten video out to work? Why does every site say I need a slimport adapter and then the slimport adapter doesn't fit?
Do you have a link to this "slimport converter"?
I cant imagine a thing not costing less then just buying an actual slimport/mydp adapter.
It's the equivilent of a ethernet to sata adapter, there would need to be active parts to convert the stream from one to the other, they're completely unrelated.
There's no way it's just a passive thing, slimport/my and mhl use microusb as the connector, but that's about the only thing they have in common.

usb to ethernet plug?

Does anyone have experience running ethernet to microusb on android devices? i really want the nexus player but no ethernet is an absolute deal killer for me. i dont believe in streaming 1080p video over wifi. i know it only has usb 2.0 but that should support up to 480mb/s theoretically. perhaps using a device like this: http://www.amazon.com/Smays-Etherne...3460191&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+usb+to+ethernet
I agree.
I would love to buy one of these, but my AP is upstairs above my living room and I do not get the best WiFi at my entertainment center. I have a range extender downstairs, but it is at the other end of the house.
My ChromeCast often stutters (or just won't work) on anything more than 480p Video.
But I do have Gigabit Ethernet wired to a switch at my entertainment center.
I use USB Ethernet adapters with Android HDMI sticks all the time. The Android Sticks have either full Size USB, an Ethernet Connection, or I use an OTG cable.
I would think that the OTG cable and USB Ethernet adapter would work with the Nexus Player, unless they specifically took the drivers out. Common or Generic chipset USB Ethernet Drivers seem to be pretty well supported in most Android Firmwares.
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Sorry to double post, but if you are wondering how a USB Ethernet adapter would be connected to a Nexus Player, you would just need one of these:
http://www.dx.com/p/cy-u2-166-usb-f...-adapter-cable-black-15cm-205901#.VD_RJLYXw3A
A hacked USB Travel Hub can also be used.
thanks, i think i have a spare otg cable laying around somewhere. my only question is does the micro usb on the player get used for power or for plugging in peripheral devices such as the ethernet adapter?
thecrunked said:
thanks, i think i have a spare otg cable laying around somewhere. my only question is does the micro usb on the player get used for power or for plugging in peripheral devices such as the ethernet adapter?
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I don't have any inside information, but as far as I can see, it is powered through the micro USB. (Just like ChromeCast).
That is why you would need a cable like the one I linked to. Notice that it has a separate micro USB female for Power only.
Note also that there is another post in this forum "What Nexus Player won't Do", and Ethernet is not mentioned as removed in that list, so that may give some hope that it is in there.
The settings menus would also have to know how to allow you to configure the new network interface.
ChromeCast (stock ROM) does not support USB Ethernet, but of course the ChromeCast is a much simpler, no-UI device.
We will just have to wait until they are in peoples hands.
Frankly, I have to say that I am out. There are many good Android Set-top boxes out there that have a full selection of ports, possibly better processors, and are cheaper.
By the time you buy the Nexus Player, a wireless keyboard (which you are going to want), the game controller, USB adapters, and Ethernet dongle, you are going to be in the $200 range, and you are going to have a mess of wires and adapters -- No thanks.
I'll "stick" with my "stick", or upgrade to a newer Chinese Android STB that has a decent processor and all the ports.
Linuxslate said:
I don't have any inside information, but as far as I can see, it is powered through the micro USB. (Just like ChromeCast).
That is why you would need a cable like the one I linked to. Notice that it has a separate micro USB female for Power only.
Note also that there is another post in this forum "What Nexus Player won't Do", and Ethernet is not mentioned as removed in that list, so that may give some hope that it is in there.
The settings menus would also have to know how to allow you to configure the new network interface.
ChromeCast (stock ROM) does not support USB Ethernet, but of course the ChromeCast is a much simpler, no-UI device.
We will just have to wait until they are in peoples hands.
Frankly, I have to say that I am out. There are many good Android Set-top boxes out there that have a full selection of ports, possibly better processors, and are cheaper.
By the time you buy the Nexus Player, a wireless keyboard (which you are going to want), the game controller, USB adapters, and Ethernet dongle, you are going to be in the $200 range, and you are going to have a mess of wires and adapters -- No thanks.
I'll "stick" with my "stick", or upgrade to a newer Chinese Android STB that has a decent processor and all the ports.
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yah i might just pick up the amazon fire tv. the only thing i am gonna use it for is xbmc/kodi and plex. maybe some youtube, netflix, and light web browsing if that.
Since it is relevant to this thread (at least a bit), I'm going to go ahead and post a link to an article on my website:
http://linuxslate.com/Guide_Android_Stick_TV_Box.html
I am NOT trying to dissuade anybody from buying the Nexus player. If you have good wifi and you don't want the headaches associated with a Chinese media player, the Nexus Player is an excellent choice.
thecrunked said:
thanks, i think i have a spare otg cable laying around somewhere. my only question is does the micro usb on the player get used for power or for plugging in peripheral devices such as the ethernet adapter?
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The official page says:
18W DC power
HDMI out ([email protected])
Micro-USB 2.0
So that's a separate power jack, and then USB for OTG or firmware updates or whatever.
Note that you don't want to get too new of a dongle, because if this doesn't have the absolute latest Linux kernel it might not support some of the newer gigabit dongles.
thecrunked said:
Does anyone have experience running ethernet to microusb on android devices? i really want the nexus player but no ethernet is an absolute deal killer for me. i dont believe in streaming 1080p video over wifi. i know it only has usb 2.0 but that should support up to 480mb/s theoretically. perhaps using a device like this: http://www.amazon.com/Smays-Etherne...3460191&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+usb+to+ethernet
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I can stream 1080p @ full Blu-Ray bitrate no problem..the problem is not the technology but likely your implementation. Also USB2 is limited to 256mb/s after overhead is subtracted. Thats far less than 802.11AC can do, I get a 890mb connection with a $15 .AC adapter on one of my PC's.
Linuxslate said:
I agree.
I would love to buy one of these, but my AP is upstairs above my living room and I do not get the best WiFi at my entertainment center. I have a range extender downstairs, but it is at the other end of the house.
My ChromeCast often stutters (or just won't work) on anything more than 480p Video.
But I do have Gigabit Ethernet wired to a switch at my entertainment center.
A hacked USB Travel Hub can also be used.
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If you have a lan drop and switch at your Entertainment center then your highest performance option is to add a access point to that switch, not to use a USB>Ethernet.
thecrunked said:
yah i might just pick up the amazon fire tv. the only thing i am gonna use it for is xbmc/kodi and plex. maybe some youtube, netflix, and light web browsing if that.
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I'm thinking about trying out the NexusPlayer to replace our FireTV...the FireTV is pretty great but its buggy and nobody seems to be trying to fix the bugs. Hulu loves to crash and has various other playback problems that we experience more than once a day (simply stops playing, or freezes, sometimes after a commercial the screen just goes black with a network logo[like ABC] but the audio is playing), Netflix also occasionally crashes back to the FireTV homescreen, Plex works ok sometimes but has trouble others, the plus is that it has Wifi+Ethernet+Optical. We previously had a Roku3 which was turtle slow compared to the FireTV. I should add that these bugs are widespread and common to many people, these are not issues limited to me or just a few people.
sluflyer06;
I do nit disagree with anything you are saying, however:
I do not see the point of having a wireless AP right next to ever node on my network.
Doesn't that make the "wireless " part nonsensical?.
2nd, I have Gigabit USB Ethernet adapters that use USB 3.0.
Linuxslate said:
sluflyer06;
I do nit disagree with anything you are saying, however:
I do not see the point of having a wireless AP right next to ever node on my network.
Doesn't that make the "wireless " part nonsensical?.
2nd, I have Gigabit USB Ethernet adapters that use USB 3.0.
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Well if your wireless is weak in that area, wouldn't a AP there benefit your other devices (laptops, tablets, phones?)? I agree that you don't NEED a acesspoint at every drop but we will always have a signifigant # of devices that cannot be wired these days so if you happen to have a drop in a room or area with weak WiFi it seems like the perfect opportunity to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Also in regards to your USB3 adapter, it won't do you any good with the NexusPlayer because it only has a USB2.0 port...still not a restriction for video though...265 is way above even the highest bitrate blu-ray.
Quite shocked that:
It's not USB 3.0 OTG
That it doesn't have Ethernet at all, maybe a limitation of the Intel SoC? I know the Snapdragon 805 and friends have USB 3.0 OTG...
I wonder how the Intel SoC will play out. Intel is late to this party...
2bluesc said:
Quite shocked that:
It's not USB 3.0 OTG
That it doesn't have Ethernet at all, maybe a limitation of the Intel SoC? I know the Snapdragon 805 and friends have USB 3.0 OTG...
I wonder how the Intel SoC will play out. Intel is late to this party...
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The ARK page (Intel's CPU library) shows USB 3.0 (and up to 4GB of RAM, while we're at it). Maybe it's a cost thing? No Ethernet is likely the same story. "If you really need it, get a dongle" they'd might say.
Everything about this box seems like Google is targeting it as a lowest-common-denominator device. Being Nexus, it's still somewhat of a developer device. "Make sure your apps can run on this, and you'll be good everywhere." Actually, that's possibly a big part of why the first Android TV device has an Intel chip. Force developers to start supporting x86, and then the TV manufacturers can put any chip they'd like into their TV.
Plus, this lets Google sell it for cheap, and then if other manufacturers want to come along and put together some Android TV luxury box with HDMI in and a USB 3 hub and 4 GB RAM and an eSATA port, go ahead.
An ethernet to USB adapter that worked
Just thought I would share a solution that worked for me.
I live in an apartment building in Manhattan that has a few hundred units and four other similarly sized buildings all within 100 yards plus a muli-plex movie house in even closer proximity.
I have a top-rated AC router and have run wi-fi analyzers to select the least crowded (and non-overlapping) 2.4 and 5 Ghz channels. 2.4 Ghz is essentially useless for streaming multimedia. Even with the 5 Ghz channel, casting music involves several buffering time-outs each minute.
Knew I had to go the USB to ethernet cable adapter route:
- first, I tried a too good-to-be true low-priced adapter on eBay. When plugged into the NP, an internal red LED light shined brightly through the white housing (almost like a Christmas light), but nothing.
- second, I tried a gigabyte adapter that stated in its product description that it was compatible out-of-the box with the NP. Bought it from directly from the vendor on Amazon. Came in brand new packaging and the adapter (plus included dongle cable, disc and instructions) all top-notch. Everything shouted quality compared to the first adapter ... but it also didn't work for me. I hoped it would and I hope it works for others who buy it. Just couldn't figure out why it wouldn't work for me. I tried what others suggested about unplugging the NP and rebooting the device to the root screen (holding the button on the bottom while powering and going through the menus). Also tried it with a PC. I just don't know what I did or didn't do right or why otherwise it wouldn't work.
- third, I looked at the pictures on the Internet depicting actual working adapters with the NP. Saw it was a SMC adapter. Then in a Reddit, I saw the model number mentioned. It is the: SMC Networks SMC2209USB/ETH 10/100 Mbps USB Ethernet Adapter. Bought it for $25 dollars on Amazon (see: amazon.com/gp/product/B00009967F/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).
Worked right out of the box! Just plugged it in (it evens comes with its own dongle cable).
One thing I realized from this, what people suggest "should" work with the NP and what IN ACTUAL FACT have been tested personally to work are different. I'm not a paid endorser of any company's products. I hope others share product names and model numbers of other adapters that they know from personal experience to also work out-of-the-box.
And as far as the buffering problems I had -- gone. The NP is actually usable now for multimedia content. I sure hope Google includes an Ethernet port when it comes out with a second generation NP.
dynadock?
Just wondering if anyone had tried something like a toshiba dynadock?
its powered, has multiple usb ports and ethernet! Would be great if it worked as i have access to them!:fingers-crossed:
natedogg118 said:
Just wondering if anyone had tried something like a toshiba dynadock?
its powered, has multiple usb ports and ethernet! Would be great if it worked as i have access to them!:fingers-crossed:
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Thank you for the brilliant idea. I happen to have a Toshibe Dynadock V2. Plugged it in and ethernet came straight up in the settings. I guess we can add this to the list of devices that work.
Yes, Attaching a OTC cable to USB Ethernet Adapter totally works for me! I can see the connection made in the network settings (ip address and domain connection under "Ethernet").
pliz help
Same issue here.
Nexus Player OTG usb is completely disabled.
No mouse, keyboard, Rii or Flash drive 2.0 or 3.0 ...
Nada, null, running Oreo 8.0
I recently purchased the OTG cable on amazon, the first result/best selling $7... No lights come up on the usbs or any form of power going through. While ADB works fine
I'm desperate so I will root it but how to fix with root?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LLUEJFU/
This ethernet/USB thing has worked great on my nexus player. Connected an SSD, put my HD Homerun on the same wired LAN, it's a great little DVR/timeshifting box.
MrCalico said:
Yes, Attaching a OTC cable to USB Ethernet Adapter totally works for me! I can see the connection made in the network settings (ip address and domain connection under "Ethernet").
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I managed to get it working too
Working fine here too. I have a USB ethernet hub connected by OTG cable.
Use it for wired internet and USB mouse.

Reliable HDMI CONNECTOR

I've tried a couple of devices that claim to connect V20 to tv by wired usb c to HDMI connector. They work for a while then the picture is lost or the phone itself freezes up. About the longest play I've gotten successfully is an hour but usually something goes wrong within 15 minutes.*
The phone has been out over 6 months now so I thought someone may have found a really dependable HDMI connector? I don't mind the lack of power in because I can always change batteries but phone should be able to play through HDMI long enough to watch one movie. That's all I really need hut I don't want to have to screw around with it 10 times to watch one movie.
Thanks so much for your help!
I've been wanting to make use of this feature, but haven't extensively yet. I have though gotten to make fair use of a micro-USB to HDMI adapter. A few trouble spots come to mind here.
Sounds like you're powering the adapter/phone from an external power source? How good is that power source? My micro-USB to HDMI was distinctly less reliable when plugged in since I was merely powering it from a normal USB port. Try running it entirely from the phone's battery. If this works better then it could be you really need a higher power source when using the adapter.
How good is your HDMI cable? Depending on how strongly the phone/adapter drives the HDMI signal, a lower quality cable could break the camel's back.
I've been running into a different bit of trouble with USB-C to HDMI adapters. I've found several of these, but whenever they've got a USB-C pass-through, the pass-through is strictly for power and does not carry the USB signals. The MyDP specification allows for USB3 to be passed through if 1 or 2 pairs are used for the HDMI signal, but allows for USB2 to be passed through no matter how many pairs are used for the HDMI signal. There are adapters which also include USB-A port(s), yet none which include an external USB-C with the USB signals. Grr!
I use C to HDMI not micro usb. V20 doesn't use micro usb. It uses slimport. I have one adapter which allows simultaneous charging and one strictly slimport C to HDMI. Both behave the same way. I have a high quality 2.5 foot HDMI wire.
Power source was Samsung tv usb powered output 1 amp. Point is I have the same issue with pure slimport and no charging.
The one that allows simultaneous charging does in fact charge and work but always craps out but so does the slimport C to HDMI.
Hmm, entertaining what you find when you do research. I suspect the V20 is using the "MyDP" specification, which is the official specification name behind "Slimport". Seems there are at least two other video out methods for USB-C.
I haven't done enough with the video-out feature of my V20 to have much experience yet. With a V10 whenever an adapter was plugged in without external power there were no problems, but when an adapter with external power was plugged in video wasn't reliable.
I'm interested in reading if you find out anything.
Slim Port USB-C to HDMI Adapter for Samsung I got this one from amazon it works will for screen sharing to the head unit in my SUV
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M733OQA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
frome901 said:
Slim Port USB-C to HDMI Adapter for Samsung I got this one from amazon it works will for screen sharing to the head unit in my SUV
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M733OQA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Can you watch an entire movie from Netflix without jamming or losing hdmi connection?
recDNA said:
Can you watch an entire movie from Netflix without jamming or losing hdmi connection?
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Sorry I haven't tried, but its seems to connect smoother the a wifi dongle.
does anyone know if there's a compatible dongle for the V20 with not only hdmi but also power input and usb host?
Happening to me too - Any suggestions
Your situation's description fits my problem exactly. I have a USB C to HDMI that was vouched as working by several V20 owners. I plug it into my Dell monitor to play games on a bigger screen. It works well for a while, then disconnects and popup on my screen says something like, "LG Bridge has stopped working do you want to exit?". Once this happens, it's almost impossible to get the V20 to share the screen again. It's not a hub, just a USB C (male) to HDMI (female).

note 4 to hdmi

I have a old note 4 in my junkdraw everything works fine except there is no screen attached.
I have been wondering on a possible repurpose idea. Without replacing the screen is it possible to hook up a micro USB to hdmi and connect it to a TV. Would it default to the USB display through the micro usb.
I just feel it's a waste to let the mainboard go because it might make a good source to make a streaming box.
I havent get my hdmi output work. I ordered black 4K adapter with purple text from ebay. Might be adapters fault. Found some comments where said samsung original adapter works but cheaper ones is gamble.

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