Thinking of Switching from an iPhone 5 - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

I am currently using an iPhone 5, but I am getting bored again, and since Apple has nohing to offer new and interesting with the 5S, I am thinking about trading a guy straight across for the GS4. I am very familiar with Android, rooting, flashing ROM's, ODIN, etc., so no worries there. If I was to get ahold of a GS4 I would first root it, and flash then most stable build of CM10 because I absoluely loath TouchWiz.
Questions:
1. What major is broken in CM10 (if anything)?
2. Is the battery life really as great as everyone says (my GS3 was a joke even with minimal use during the day)?
3. What are some other things that bug you about the phone (be honest)?
Thanks eveyone for your thoughts, and I hope to be back to flashing very soon (my wife is going to love this again) HAHA!

This thread is gonna get interesting...
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1) go to cm thread and READ.
2) 15 hrs up, 3.5 hours screen time average.
3) none.
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I actually went from a Note 2 to a iPhone 5s. Not the best choice but I will only consider a Nexus device and I do plan on buying a nexus 5. I love rooting and custom ROMs like you but I want a fully unlocked device with tons of support if I stay with Android. If your on Verizon your screwed. They hate unlocked bootloaders and they don't want to sale cheap powerful phones off contract. I plan on using my 5s as my daily driver and Nexus 5 as a small mini tablet. Next year I plan on leaving Verizon by giving my wife the Nexus 5 and I will get the Nexus 6 (or what ever its called). I will sale my Nexus 7 2012 once I get the N5.
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1) go to cm thread and READ.
2) 15 hrs up, 3.5 hours screen time average.
3) none.
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Thank you. I found two CM10 threads (prior to posting this BTW) and all I saw was this:
Known Issues
GPS - Sometimes doesn't lock. Current suggestion is ensure you get a lock in stock ROM before flashing.
Reboot - Extended reboot menu will power the phone off.Issues not identified by our build but possibly pertaining to it can be
Hence the reason for my post....This can't be all is it? I was thinking "where is the laundry list of issues"? Wow, that's cool if that's really it. Anyway, thanks for the response. It looks like I will be a happy GS4 owner then.
Cheers!

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Should I buy this or the HTC One?

I'm going to admit I'm biased already on several levels:
* I hate waiting for OS updates from carriers/OEM's
* My usual M.O. is not to be an early adopter of any just-released tech
* The N4 specs aren't that far behind the 2013 flagships
* My carrier supports DC HSPA speeds
* No bloatware
But I have a few questions:
Do you think judging by past patterns, that the N4 will continue to get updates well ahead of HTC for the next year from April even though it's been out since November 2012?
Do you think the N4's specs will give it a shelf life as long as the HTC One for at least another year in terms of performance and speed?
How is 4.2.2 on the N4? Did it still remain fast? Is this a fast and lag free phone compared to this year's OEM flagships? I played around with its carrier branded sister the LGOG and it was extremely fast and smooth just running in ICS so I'm hoping the N4 on JB is also, is it?
And just for the record, I'm not concerned about another Nexus hitting the shelf this fall, if that happens I'll just ebay this one and buy the next.
Thanks in advance!
It will get the updates, 4.2.2 is great, and it'll perform perfectly fine for probably 2 years. I don't see quad core as ever really becoming too slow, in fact I don't think it will go much further than quad core.
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Had Htc one s for two weeks and after getting N4 I don't regret sending it back.
Btw I'm not the biggest fan of sense os so that would have to go too straight away lol
On N4 I'm still on stock 4.2.1 (lack of time ) and it's super smooth
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If you like to or plan to flash and do heavy mods to the OS then stick with the N4. Well already have a more active developer community. And if want the latest greatest version of Android you always have to do Nexus device
If picture quality is important to you then do the HTC One (Optical image stabilization and superior low light performance).
If you watch a lot of YouTube or listen to music using the phone speakers, the front facing stereo speakers on the One will be beneficial.
Both have very good build quality but the front and back edge to edge glass on the N4 make it less drop friendly than the aluminum unibody of the One.
In day to day stuff I don't think you'll see a huge difference in performance between the two so I'd call that a wash.
Tough call. Both are great phones. Just depends on your priorities.
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The one is going to be a bad ass phone, but you have to like sense...which i do. Some people hate it.
But, if you plan on getting the one and flashing and doing all that, I'd just go with the n4.
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If you have the money then a HTC one
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I think you answered your own question lol. I mean how much better can "specs" get for a phone? And why do we need these specs to reach such heights? Do we just want these "specs" just to say we have them? Because that's what it seems like at this point...2gb ram + quad core takes care of my needs and should for the next 2 years.
It just seems like people are waiting for the next best thing and I don't see it getting much better for a phone of this quality at this price point off contract. Not to mention, no bloatware, the dev community and the quick updates. I guess I'm just a simple man
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When folks come over here and ask which phone they should get, I laugh hard. You will always get a bias answer.
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If you like to customize, nexus.
If you're more like an iPhone user, go HTC
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id say nexus 4. tthe htc one is so nice and i would buy it but i bet you you can buy 2 of these Nexus 4s for the price of a HTC One on release. And US release is delayed to end of april. And if you want sense 5 because ofthe dev community here, I bet you can get it.There's not much going for the htc one unless you want the actual hardware and the ultrapixel camera, etc. but very steep in price. if you have tmobile, nexus 4 is future proof for LTE.
Definitely the nexus 4. unless you want to stay with Jelly bean forever
The worst part of HTC is the CID numbers, if you don`t have the international CID you can root what you want but you will not be able to update to the latest version untill it is released for your region/carrier. BTW unlocking the bootloader may void warranty, even if restored too stock RUU it wil stay say RELOCKED. For me never again HTC. So as you may have guessed i would choose the N4 handsdown.
Htc phones arent future proof
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I would wait for 6 months and buy the next htc. This one is almost there but not quite yet.
Made my choice
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Made my choice
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And a good choice that is! The One is an excellent phone but once you go aosp it's hard to go back to OEM skins, especially with software updates and the next version of Android is nearing ever close and you'll get to enjoy pretty much soon after rather than wait for carrier or OEM to update them!
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[POLL] How long keeping your Nexus S

How long do you plan on keeping your Nexus S?
Forever... or until something that sounds as good audio wise comes along.
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Well I have an HTC one coming tomorrow. But I'll keep it around in case of emergencies. My upgrade came at a good time as the nexus while working is feeling worn. Battery life just isn't what it use to, overall it between a gook's two years of service.
something clever goes here...
Im upgrading in july but i'll keep my ns just in case!
Nexus S is my first android and it still work so FINE!
It's speed is still impressive!
And it is getting better and better now!:laugh:
1 year of service, but if development continues to provide with new ROMs, it will stay on service for a lot of time, for now with Gamerzrom 3.0 and very fast.
I'll keep my Nexus S until the next 4-inches nexus device. But I think my NS will die before that time.
i love this phone expesially now that its rooted
Also my first Android phone that satisfied me. But a use of 2 years is enough, nevertheless it will stay at the family... until it dies.
I'll keep it until it dies, for sure. I see no reasons for switching to a more recent phone. Mine is 18 months old and very snappy and usable.
Well I inially thought of a exchange with S1, then I quicklly changed my mind (with the help of some Nexus S hard fans on this forum ) and now I'll probaply keep it untill it dies, now my reall problem is that all the phones I previously use just keept me on Android, but since my Nexus I've gotten addicted to Nexus as a phone, If you get me to choosa between a GNexus or S3, HTC One, S4 I'd choose the older GNexus, is this weerd?
i love mine - its my first smartphone!!
I'm probably going to leave for the sunny shores of the Nexus 4 in a couple months. I held one for 15 minutes and now my poor old s just feels... crap I've had the nexus s for 10ish months, which i got for free off my friend. Not bad value
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wait until Christmas 2013 Nexus.
In octuber 2012 i bought my nexus
In second hand. I as happy with it! But now i just want something faster and a little bigger! I will aways love him. It is mt best phone until now (my 4th smartphone). But... I guess i need something better.
Long life to my nexus! I will change, but will keep it for case... U know...
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I plan to replace it with a nexus 4 this summer. It's been in service since autumn 2011 and I'm running out of warranty. It's a great phone and I'm going to keep it around as long as I can. Maybe try out some roms on it.
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powerfuran said:
I'll keep it until it dies, for sure. I see no reasons for switching to a more recent phone. Mine is 18 months old and very snappy and usable.
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Wish mine was snappy and as usuable, it's about the same age as yours but I've had problems since my first update to ICS and after I rooted and flashed roms/kernels it's just never been the same. I have the HTC one coming in a few days so I'm pretty stoked, I'll keep my nexus s to be my Ipod touch alternative.
Bought mine on launch day. Still going strong, original battery too. Though the lack of RAM is the only thing I'm having trouble with. I'll probably break down and get the upcoming Nexus.
Might be switching this summer
I just bought mine a week ago and I loved it.
I chose to stick with gingerbread CM rom combines with CM kernel (patched with force AC charge and bigmem).
The experiences is great even in gaming because I only play mini game.
I maybe switch to other phone next year but I'll keep it as backup phone for sure.

Want to buy Nexus 4. Still a good device?

Hey guys,
I am thinking about getting a Nexus 4 to replace my HTC Sensation. The Sensation has many problems such as huge battery drain and it gets extremely hot during usage. So I thought the Nexus 4 would be a great idea. Pure Android (huge fan of that, was using CM for a long time on my Senny) and Google Support sound good and the price seems to be okay to (I could buy a 16GB variant for about 310€).
Is this phone great? Is it still worth buying considering it's already nearly a year old? Does it have some know problems such as huge battery drain or display problems?
I need this phone for browsing, using the calendar, writing emails/sms and sometimes taking photos. I don't play any games on it except 4 pictures 1 word.
Thanks in advance!
I too came from a Sensation, and it's a fine upgrade, for all the reasons you mention. Perhaps not as durable as HTC's build quality, so be sure to include a decent cover (I use the Diztronic TPU and it looks factory) to protect that beautiful glass. It's a joy to use..you can't go wrong. Cheers!
I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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X2
I came from a galaxy s2, and previously HOX tegra. I bought a N4 2 weeks ago, and in stock its pretty smooth, awesome i'd say. Better price/performance choice. You wont regret
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I bought a Nex4 about 6 weeks ago after being a long term BB user, our company provide BB but have just let us go BYOD. I got N4 to replace the BB and so far it hasn't disappointed in any way. I also wanted the pure Android experience after my N10. The phone has been a good choice.
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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.
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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.
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The Lumia 1020 would be out of the price range. I'd never pay 400€+ for a phone I only use for work. I probably can't wait till the next release because the Senny really bugs me. I can't use a phone which burns in my hand because it's getting extremely hot while chewing through battery like nothing. My Sensation barely gets through the day with moderate use.
€: And I don't like WP because I'm a huge fan of costumization.
Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.
Well you can go on buying Nexus 4, everything is a beauty when you compare prices and then it is a google phone so it always have it perks.
If you think you should wait for nexus 5 then its not very much pretty soon bcz this time google launched s4 and htc one as google variant which means next nexus will take time.
Your tasks which u need to perform as you have mentioned would all be performed very well.
Tip I can give even for better battery.
Unlock the bootloader, use custom recovery such as CWM and flash CM 10.1 stable releases which ever is latest.
Find franco kernel and flash that and for better colours use its colour profile.
You will have an outstanding experiance with great display and great battery time.
Best of luck.
NOTE. All decision is urs what ever suits you best.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.
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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.
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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.
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To each their own, I cannot speak for the needs of TC nor their personal interests. Whether he's comfortable with waiting X months is currently unknown and has not been divulged in this topic, so we can agree to disagree.
He said he probably can't wait for the next release because his phone bugs him.
Even a device like the HTC first would suit him fine hardware and software wise. Not unlocked and cheap of course ( don't even think it launched outside the US or unlocked) but just talking the device itself
There are plenty of users who are not concerned with the I can read the spec sheet pissing matches. Wait for the latest and greatest chip so they can have a higher score in benchmarks etc.
Its definitely still worth buying full price. Its a great device especially if you're a fan of stock android like you said.
Happy phoning.
I really don't need high specs. Benchmarks never intersted me because at the end you probably won't feel any difference between for example the snapdragon 600 and the snapdragon 800 in everyday use. I just want the phone to work well without stuttering and without any hick ups.
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If you need a phone now, just go for it. If you are not in a hurry, you can wait and see what comes up. IMO I usually don't want the first batch of the phone anyway since they are usually the ones with problems.
just buy it
I highly recommend nexus 4.. Believe me it's as smooth as HTC one out even better..
Root and flash cyanogenmod and Franco kernel... That made me a delighted user from a happy user...
Besides it'll have developer support for hell lot of a time to come... Even after people forget about HTC one and s4..
:good::good:
I'm going to buy it at the end of August and I think it is still worth it. However reading this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2259334 scaried me!

N3 Regrets... stick with it?

Soooo, I recently purchased a Note 3 and I'm MOSTLY happy with a lot of things about the phone... BUT the idea that we may never get an unlocked bootloader (SOOO annoying, had a Thunderbolt for the last two years and was really looking forward to getting CM again!) is making me question whether I should stay with my new phone or not. Looking for a little advice on keeping the N3 or getting something new:
Pros:
1.) The hardware is incredible. Coming from the Thunderbolt, this thing is insanely fast.
2.) The screen is awesome. The size doesn't bother me at all.
3.) Battery life!
Cons:
1.) Touch Wiz. I used to own an original Droid and LOVED the OS, eventually switching to CM for added features. Most of the stuff I dislike I can turn off, but there's a lot of bloat and dumb ideas here. (Why Samsung makes me turn up the volume and say I won't explode my head every time I plug in headphones is insane... I'M PLUGGING IT INTO MY CAR AND I'M NO LONGER 12 YEARS OLD.)
2.) The screen isn't big enough to use as an e-reader. This is not a huge issue, I had just HOPED it would be... BUT, since that's the case, I could easily switch to another phone and get a tablet too and not feel bad about it.
3.) Gaming... again, I had hoped the N3 would be able to provide gaming and e-reader and phone all into one device, but Android games are really just too shallow for me.
Soooo, what it really comes down to is if you guys think this device will be unlocked down the line OR if you think I could adjust it to make a more stock android/ AOSP/ CM type experience. If I was able to put CM on here I would be sitting pretty. I'm just worried it will turn into a situation like the Thunderbolt with limited updates and no real way to get new software...
If I did get a new phone, what would you guys recommend? I'm looking at the HTC One, Nexus 5, LG G2 and Galaxy S4. I haven't yet looked into which ones have fully unlocked bootloaders with decent roms, but that would be a deal breaker.
Thanks for any and all help, you guys are awesome!!
Why did you start a new thread that is exactly the same as your other one in the Note 3 General forum?
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Why did you start a new thread that is exactly the same as your other one in the Note 3 General forum?
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I started that one, thought it might be in the wrong forum and then started this one and was going to delete the other one... then I figured out I couldn't delete either thread. Feel free to delete this one if you can.

"What are you upgrading from, and why?" Thread

I personally am upgrading from a Nexus 5 mainly because I upgrade my phone every two years anyways.
I am also upgrading because of the abysmal battery life with the n5, and I want more speed and ram.
Plus, a better camera and better speakers will be very nice. How about you guys?
I'm upgrading from a Note 4...
1) the lag can be ridiculous and nothing I do resolves it
2) the updates take too damn long to trickle down with AT&T having to mess with the firmware before releasing
3) work app will only work on nexus phones because of requiring updates to be as soon as possible
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I am upgrading from an m8 (downgraded to m9 then re upgraded to the m8 ) lol
vsod99 said:
I personally am upgrading from a Nexus 5 mainly because I upgrade my phone every two years anyways. I am also upgrading because of the abysmal battery life with the n5, and I want more speed and ram. Plus, a better camera and better speakers will be very nice. How about you guys?
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Samsung galaxy note 2. I get my phones through work. This is a great benefit for someone with more kids than disposable income (and because I'm always on call)
Although the brass purchases nearly every new device for testing (we are a broadcast company with video app and lots of games), they frown upon replacing personal devices each year.
I've had my note 2 since it came out. And last year was the first year computer acquisitions was able to offer/get nexus devices. But the demand was so high, I was unable to get a quote for the nexus 6 till March!
By that time, I figured I'd wait another 6 months for the newest nexus device.
I'm a flashaholic, so I've been rocking lollipop or note4 on my note 2 for a bit, but pure nexus will sure be nice!
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Samsung galaxy note 2. I get my phones through work. This is a great benefit for someone with more kids than disposable income (and because I'm always on call)
Although the brass purchases nearly every new device for testing (we are a broadcast company with video app and lots of games), they frown upon replacing personal devices each year.
I've had my note 2 since it came out. And last year was the first year computer acquisitions was able to offer/get nexus devices. But the demand was so high, I was unable to get a quote for the nexus 6 till March!
By that time, I figured I'd wait another 6 months for the newest nexus device.
I'm a flashaholic, so I've been rocking lollipop or note4 on my note 2 for a bit, but pure nexus will sure be nice!
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Since you're a flashaholic, you'll definitely love nexus devices. There's a reason the development posts for the nexus devices have so many threads.
LG G3 because it's been over a year now and the cpu isn't good enough for 1440p and I have always wanted a nexus phone because verizon is sh*t and fast updates
I'm upgrading from the Samsung S6 with Verizon. I really love the phone and I'm rooted. I'm stuck on an older version of lollipop just to keep root. I had a version of the phone with the latest update and no root and the phone suffered drastically.
I chose to get the nexus 6p because I love Android and I want to get updates immediately. I'm hoping that Huawei makes a splash with there first US released phone.
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I'm upgrading from the Samsung S6 with Verizon. I really love the phone and I'm rooted. I'm stuck on an older version of lollipop just to keep root. I had a version of the phone with the latest update and no root and the phone suffered drastically.
I chose to get the nexus 6p because I love Android and I want to get updates immediately. I'm hoping that Huawei makes a splash with there first US released phone.
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It's definitely good to have another OEM in the US market. Especially with HTC doing poorly lately.
Note 4 / LG g4
OnePlus One to the Nexus 6P, I had the Nexus 4 before the OnePlus One and found the dev support to be better on the Nexus 4. Also want front facing speakers and a better camera. Looking forward to this new phone
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Coming from n5
Wanted bigger, better everything, and wouldn't own anything but a nexus device.
They are just too much fun!
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OnePlus One to the Nexus 6P, I had the Nexus 4 before the OnePlus One and found the dev support to be better on the Nexus 4. Also want front facing speakers and a better camera. Looking forward to this new phone
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One of my best friends had a OPO and he loved the specs/speed, but was annoyed by the software support so I can definitely see why you'd want to upgrade.
Hopefully this phone turns out to be rock solid.
Also, time to update your signature
Samsung sm-910a / NO ROOT ! And to try out project Fi.
I dropped my LG g2 a week ago at work slightly and a couple days later it stopped reading all Sim cards. Sucked because it had one of the best development communities I've ever been apart of and the phone had unbelievable battery life. Phone just turned 2 years old, so I guess it was time for an upgrade anyway. Now I just have an excuse.
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Coming from the nexus 6.
Why? Because I get each nexus device on launch day, and have since the galaxy nexus.
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Coming from the nexus 6.
Why? Because I get each nexus device on launch day, and have since the galaxy nexus.
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>each nexus device
So I assume you ordered the 5x as well?
I'm upgrading because I want to continue to enjoy the Nexus party on XDA! There's few rush's like it in Virtual reality ...
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One of my best friends had a OPO and he loved the specs/speed, but was annoyed by the software support so I can definitely see why you'd want to upgrade.
Hopefully this phone turns out to be rock solid.
Also, time to update your signature
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Yes indeed
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Just adding it to my note 5 and iphone 6s+. Fun to use it when get bored of the other 2.
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i'm coming from a tmobile galaxy s6 and i'm going to get the nexus 6p, but i want to wait a month or two to see how this snapdragon 810 performs in it. with the recent news of the xperia z5 heating up a lot even with sony putting in heat pipes and thermal pasting to try to keep it cool, i'm wondering how the 6p users will feel once they have it in hand and have a chance to work the soc.

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