Database Users

To Haykuro, Jesusfreke, DudeOfLife & other rom developers

I have a few ideas for the troubles developers are having here
1. Each rom developer should work together and have one area that only developers can give ideas and input, only select people would be allowed to post to the area but we could all view what is in the works, a semi private forum or community, this would cut down on spam and allow for uninterupted development
2. Developers shouldn't have to handle being customer care/support, they shouldn't have to deal with idiots that cannot rtfm or search, this takes time from their own ideas and development process as well as their own lives having to keep up with thousands of people.
3. In organized places like the linux kernel project developers are seperated from the community to a point to avoid such issues that turn away good developers. Basically the developers know what need to be done, its a passion of theirs and we are all lucky to take part in the experience
4. There is already communication between developers and maybe the mods could create a read only area for non-developers, and read/write for rom developers and trusted helpers
So if xda cannot create a seperate forum just for the developers to use and for people to view but not spam/other things I say the devs should just create another rom mod community
Thanks,
defcon

defconoi said:
I have a few ideas for the troubles developers are having here
1. Each rom developer should work together and have one area that only developers can give ideas and input, only select people would be allowed to post to the area but we could all view what is in the works, a semi private forum or community, this would cut down on spam and allow for uninterupted development
2. Developers shouldn't have to handle being customer care/support, they shouldn't have to deal with idiots that cannot rtfm or search, this takes time from their own ideas and development process as well as their own lives having to keep up with thousands of people.
3. In organized places like the linux kernel project developers are seperated from the community to a point to avoid such issues that turn away good developers. Basically the developers know what need to be done, its a passion of theirs and we are all lucky to take part in the experience
4. There is already communication between developers and maybe the mods could create a read only area for non-developers, and read/write for rom developers and trusted helpers
So if xda cannot create a seperate forum just for the developers to use and for people to view but not spam/other things I say the devs should just create another rom mod community
Thanks,
defcon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The xda forum has been here for very long time. And that proves there's nothing wrong with the working model we're having here right now. Otherwise you wouldn't see an active forum like this, amirite?

Part of the problem here is that evryone in the community who has an interest in modding KNOWS that this is the place all the modders go. I agree if we created a tech support forum (or a sepperate website) with threads that can only be started by privilaged users then the madness would be contained within a logical structure.

I agree with this completely! This will force those that don't research (search and read appropriate topic) into doing some studying! We need to resolve this issue ASAP before we lose more of our top devs! I appreciate their hard work and the countless hours of effort they put in! I've read some of these long threads and they just keep getting longer by posters that ask a question that was answered at or near the beginning of the topics! Pretty ridiculous? I call it laziness!

I think this is a great idea. And also maybe an irc for devs and trusted helpers.

Lost one of our very gd chefs...

egzthunder1
Portal Admin & Sr Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Miami
Posts: 7,823
To all,
We are closing this thread under allegations that this rom is the work of another dev, but modified to make it look like the OP's original work. This is also known as kanging a rom, for those of you unfamiliar with Android. Stealing work is against XDA's Rule #12
Quote:
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
We are in the process of examining the allegations by comparing the rom in question to the alleged original work. Once we are done with our investigation (comparing files, time stamps, etc), we will update this thread with our findings, but until then, this thread and all of its links will be shut down.
Please do not spam the boards with messages of hatred towards our actions / polls or threads complaining about this or bombard us with pm / webmaster e-mail messages asking for the thread to be re-opened as they will simply be ignored (threads will be locked and / or deleted). The only people who we will entertain are the OP and any devs working closely with him on the project (this does not include beta testers or end users).
Thank you for your understanding.
XDA-Moderating Team
__________________
"As I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I fear no evil for I am the God of Death... and this is my valley"
I have ORD
HTC Blue Angel
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Firstly definitions,
An allegation (also called adduction) is a claim of a fact by a party in a pleading, which the party claims to be able to prove. Allegations remain assertions without proof, until they can be proved.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We flame those who create new threads demanding for new features in builds..those people being rude to chefs..those who are inpatient and cant wait for updates like the rest of us.
How about admins who have no courtesy to be discrete with such allegations such as the one above? Publicly humiliating a chef who has provided us with one of the best builds and most stable android builds. I've used many droid builds and mccm's MIUI is amongst the best as well as his desire build being stable and smooth..he even carried on darkstones work just to please users like us...
If i had the chance i would have gave that admin a piece of my mind after he posted that post...because yes if you suspect him stealing go ahead close the thread and tell him there is an investigation blah blah...but why post it for everyone to see? You might as well crucify him in front of the whole world and draw on his head 'Thief"..its the same effect.
I hope XDA staff especially if your a SENIOR learn to be more aware that chefs and devs here are human's and have feelings too.

Idea to help ROM developers financially

Hi All,
I was surfing net and found lots of legit sites providing pay per download's.
What came to my mind is that we ask ROM developers to upload on these sites.
we normal users anyways download from where ever they upload.
in this process there is no change however we will be contributing to some extend to them.
specailly usefull for those of us who don't have the luxury to donate through paypal.
Need your opinion.
Mod : please delete thread if it voilates any forum rule. (Please infrom me the same in case its not a burden to you.)

Thats a really cool idea .
I mean I'm sure most of the people taking time out of their own lives to develope these roms (not for profit but because its a hobby they enjoy doing) could also help out many aspects of other peoples lives who may have never even owned a mobile phone (ie, donate the money to a charity of their choosing).
I'm sure that with the amount of dl's a single rom gets could really benefit people.
Sent from my Dell Streak using Tapatalk

cameronmfjay said:
Thats a really cool idea .
I mean I'm sure most of the people taking time out of their own lives to develope these roms (not for profit but because its a hobby they enjoy doing) could also help out many aspects of other peoples lives who may have never even owned a mobile phone (ie, donate the money to a charity of their choosing).
I'm sure that with the amount of dl's a single rom gets could really benefit people.
Sent from my Dell Streak using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you are telling that Developers are uploading their ROM to a website that wants a CORRECT survey before you can download the file? That really sucks, you'll get into trouble with some of those surveys. Also, why make money with file upload websites if you can donate to a developer.
I say no.

what a lame idea the reason why Xda is better because its devs don't push people to download something for money! if the user likes the devs work they donate to the dev infact these sites have waiting time and lame ads all around the page which may change the mind of someone who wants to donate.
Mediafire is always the best file hosting site!

I understand the point you all are trying to make.
however my point was simply in the event many people don't have the liberty or capacity to donate.
neither can they contribute with much to the community.
so just thought to take opinion of the community....
Looks like i might have hurt some of the basic fundamental values of XDA... in that case i am sorry.....
and Note: this is in no way a instruction, its just some thoughts of my own.

The rules of XDA state
11. Don’t post with the intention of selling something.
Don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. Proprietors of for-pay products or services, may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or a free version of their product for XDA users and offer support, but not to post with the intention of selling. This includes promoting sites similar/substantially similar to XDA-Developers.com.
Do not post press releases, announcements, links to trial software, or commercial services. unless you’re posting an exclusive release for XDA-Developers.com.
Encouraging members to participate in forum activities on other phone related sites is prohibited.
Off-site downloads are permitted if the site is non-commercial and does not require registration.
Off-site downloads from sites requiring registration are NOT encouraged but may be permitted if the following conditions are met:
A) the site belongs to a member of XDA-Developers with at least 1500 posts and 2 years membership who actively maintains XDA-Developers' support thread(s) / posts, related to the download,
B) the site is a relatively small personal website without commercial advertising/links (i.e. not a competitor forum-based site with purposes and aims similar to those of XDA-Developers.com.)
so i dont think survey taking would be allowed

Thanks for the clarification please delete the thread or atleast lock it as i suppose it will be a clear voilation of XDA policies.

-PiLoT- said:
so i dont think survey taking would be allowed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not surveys.. just something like this http://adf.ly/ so you would just have to click next.

Hiring for Members! Click me!

Right so were hiring for members to join our team we have more roles:
so far im in charge of ROM etc for the play forum.
we need much more tallented people on our team and continue development on any further roms.
here is the post explaining from the Leader off HyD^oG3N Team.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24057892&postcount=680

Xperia4life said:
Right so were hiring for members to join our team we have more roles:
so far im in charge of ROM etc for the play forum.
we need much more tallented people on our team and continue development on any further roms.
here is the post explaining from the Leader off HyD^oG3N Team.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24057892&postcount=680
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol. would like to join but i dun know anything....... currently trying to learn java

am interested. I have vast knowledge of htc kitchen. etc

[SHARED] DERPFEST Android 13 MAY build 2023 for Xiaomi Redmi Note 4

Hello Redmi Note 4 owners.
Today I like to announce Derpfest 13 by Nemix .
I installed it on my Mido and it works great,
Face unlock Finger print etc all works.
Comes with Google playstore build in.
Wanna give it a test drive?
{Mod edit: Link to Telegram removed. Oswald Boelcke, Senior Moderator}
Leave your test results and for the video check
channel48 Youtube
Special thanks to
Cafebabe and all that made this possible.
Wanna Donate Nemix ?
Pay Daki Aleksa using PayPal.Me
Go to paypal.me/Nem1xDev and type in the amount. Since it’s PayPal, it's easy and secure. Don’t have a PayPal account? No worries.
www.paypal.me
Thank You .

@Concept48 The thread has been moved out of the development forum since that section is only reserved for sharing one's own development work. It's clear that you're neither the developer or the maintainer of the ROM you shared, and that's why your thread didn't qualify to be in the device's development forum. Additionally, I've also added the word [SHARED] in the thread title to clarify that the ROM is not your own.
Regards,
shadowstep
Senior Moderator

shadowstep said:
@Concept48 The thread has been moved out of the development forum since that section is only reserved for sharing one's own development work. It's clear that you're neither the developer or the maintainer of the ROM you shared, and that's why your thread didn't qualify to be in the device's development forum. Additionally, I've also added the word [SHARED] in the thread title to clarify that the ROM is not your own.
Regards,
shadowstep
Senior Moderator
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks so much , it had to be posted in this section ..

Concept48 said:
Today I like to announce Derpfest 13 by Nemix .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello and good morning, @Concept48. I've removed the links to Telegram from your OP.
Regarding social media links please observe that as an exemption from the last bullet of rule no. 5 of the XDA Forum Rules, we grant only developers the privilege to share references to their social media in their own development threads and if thorough support is provided in the thread. These conditions obviously don't apply to you, your threads or posts. Additional information is also available here:
Telegram Chat Channels - Way Forward
WhatsApp/Telegram Groups and Channels - Going Forward Hello XDA family! Just notifying all members that posting certain links to Telegram and other sites like WhatsApp is now allowed on XDA. What does that mean? We will allow links to messages...
forum.xda-developers.com
In order to avoid consequences to your account, please refrain from sharing links to social media on XDA unless done in your own development threads.
Thanks for your cooperation.
Regards
Oswald Boelcke
Senior Moderator

Oswald Boelcke said:
Hello and good morning, @Concept48. I've removed the links to Telegram from your OP.
Regarding social media links please observe that as an exemption from the last bullet of rule no. 5 of the XDA Forum Rules, we grant only developers the privilege to share references to their social media in their own development threads and if thorough support is provided in the thread. These conditions obviously don't apply to you, your threads or posts. Additional information is also available here:
Telegram Chat Channels - Way Forward
WhatsApp/Telegram Groups and Channels - Going Forward Hello XDA family! Just notifying all members that posting certain links to Telegram and other sites like WhatsApp is now allowed on XDA. What does that mean? We will allow links to messages...
forum.xda-developers.com
In order to avoid consequences to your account, please refrain from sharing links to social media on XDA unless done in your own development threads.
Thanks for your cooperation.
Regards
Oswald Boelcke
Senior Moderator
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Thanks for your warning , it was just a announcement not even a thread cause developer did not want to make a thread because of the difficult communication on this Network. I,m not even on Telegram and I don't give a dang about Telegram.
Developer knows I made the thread ,just because I want this development to be on XDA and not only on telegram ,. so if Developer can announce Telegram support room I can to /.
i have better things to do then make threads to get attention on your Network.
I did not have to announce this at all , then XDA would not have this development on the site..
My Channel sends thousands of people over the years to XDA so I can be seen as a XDA promotor rather a spammer that needs people from XDA to go to bloody telegram.
I will not anounce anything anymore if you start threaten me with account removal etc ..think again . I,m not here to gain members of XDA I Bring them ..and BTW I will make a video and explain in simple words what kinda sucks about XDA . We keep in touch. Best regards Puck Darlington Channel48 Yourtube.

Concept48 said:
Hi Thanks for your warning , it was just a announcement not even a thread cause developer did not want to make a thread because of the difficult communication on this Network. I,m not even on Telegram and I don't give a dang about Telegram.
Developer knows I made the thread ,just because I want this development to be on XDA and not only on telegram ,. so if Developer can announce Telegram support room I can to /.
i have better things to do then make threads to get attention on your Network.
I did not have to announce this at all , then XDA would not have this development on the site..
My Channel sends thousands of people over the years to XDA so I can be seen as a XDA promotor rather then a spammer that needs people from XDA to go to bloody telegram.
I will not anounce anything anymore if you start threaten me with account removal etc ..think again . I,m not here to gain members of XDA I Bring them ..and BTW I will make a video and explain in simple words what kinda sucks about XDA . We keep in touch. Best regards Puck Darlington Channel48 Yourtube.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
@Nem1x