Hey everyone, first of all thank you for taking the time to look at my post.
My question is this, what is the difference between the mobile free hotspot and the wifi tether app? Reason why I ask is, on older rooted phones the wifi tether app was the program you ran to get your phone to be a hotspot. Even if your phone was preloaded with a mobile hotspot option from your cell phone carrier. From what I thought, even if there was a hack to use the original mobile hotspot preloaded on your phone. The cell phone carrier could moniter your usage? So thats when wifi tether app was made available, to avoid this. Or am I waaaay off bases?
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mann75 said:
Hey everyone, first of all thank you for taking the time to look at my post.
My question is this, what is the difference between the mobile free hotspot and the wifi tether app? Reason why I ask is, on older rooted phones the wifi tether app was the program you ran to get your phone to be a hotspot. Even if your phone was preloaded with a mobile hotspot option from your cell phone carrier. From what I thought, even if there was a hack to use the original mobile hotspot preloaded on your phone. The cell phone carrier could moniter your usage? So thats when wifi tether app was made available, to avoid this. Or am I waaaay off bases?
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I believe you are correct, but from Sprint with unlimited data, all they would see is the data usage, so using the native hotspot shouldn't alert them to anything strange. In my experiance the wifi tether apps are not as reliable, with the native hotspot hack, I have no problems, and when using a tether app it seems to require much more configuration and was still not as reliable, I frequently got "limited or no connectivity" using a tether app.
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I believe you are correct, but from Sprint with unlimited data, all they would see is the data usage, so using the native hotspot shouldn't alert them to anything strange. In my experiance the wifi tether apps are not as reliable, with the native hotspot hack, I have no problems, and when using a tether app it seems to require much more configuration and was still not as reliable, I frequently got "limited or no connectivity" using a tether app.
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Awwwwww....I see and you are correct there is connection problems. But let me ask you this...does the native hotsot have better download rates than the tether app? Or thats just depends on your data service?
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Awwwwww....I see and you are correct there is connection problems. But let me ask you this...does the native hotsot have better download rates than the tether app? Or thats just depends on your data service?
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To be honest I have not tested that, because hotspot works consistently and the tether app wouldn't always get internet access when connected, I went with what is easier. I would assume that it is based on your current network speed. I ran a speed test and got 2.18Mbps down and then connected my laptop to the hotspot and got 1.98Mbps down. So it is close, I don't currently have a working tether app since this works ok. I know the speed sucks but its only 3g in the 24th floor of an office in Denver, where LTE is not fully released yet.
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I'm about to switch back to verizon for the better network and was wondering if teathering would worknthe same as on my sprint hero.. I know that a lot of verizon devices have a button to teather stock and they want you to pay crazy prices for their service..
If I root a droid x can I tether on the down low? ... Thanks for any help.
Yeah you can use wireless tether or barnacle wifi tether. I believe there is a mod for the stock tether app to use it for free but never bothered trying it as the two I mentioned work fine.
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Team Black Hat has a patch for the stock 3G WiFi App... Works perfectly.
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thanks guys big help, so if i get this right.. the same as sprint- verizon will have no idea if i am teathering or not..?
They might be able to guess by the amount of data you use, but I use insane amounts of data and have yet to receive any complaints or notices of excessive usage.
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If you wanna tether through your USB, pdanet works pretty well, though I think it's more hassle than a WiFi tether.
Here is my situation.
I have 2.3.7, stock, rooted, using Pete's 2.6.35.14 kernel. I installed wireless tether 2.0.8 pre-1 and set it to use bluetooth tethering. It works great, even via 4G. My issue however, is that it only works great to 1 device. My laptop, or my Galaxy Tab 10.1, connect perfectly fine and there are no issues. If I try to connect the other device (whichever other, doesn't matter the order from what I've tried) it won't work.
If I have my laptop connected first, then on my Tab, it will say it is connected in the bluetooth settings menu, but there is no internet access and there is no bluetooth tethering icon down by the clock.
If I have the Tab connected first, then try my laptop it will also say connection successful but then down on the taskbar the internet icon will have the little exclamation point and it will say no internet access.
Soooo..... is there a way to connect multiple devices via bluetooth? I really really hope so, but perhaps this is just a limitation of the PAN profile in bluetooth, or maybe the phone is only using the DUN profile or something. But in all my searching I haven't found an answer and I just don't know myself. Any devs out there know?
Why not just use Wifi to tether multiple devices?
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Why not just use Wifi to tether multiple devices?
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Because 4G tethering via wifi doesn't work (in infrastructure mode, anyway), unless you pay the $29.99 to Sprint, which I am currently doing. But in my opinion, it is BS that they charge this. And given I very rarely use tethering, I hate paying for it.
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Because 4G tethering via wifi doesn't work (in infrastructure mode, anyway), unless you pay the $29.99 to Sprint, which I am currently doing. But in my opinion, it is BS that they charge this. And given I very rarely use tethering, I hate paying for it.
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You know Pete has the wireless tether fix that unlocks the sprint tethering.
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Rem3Dy said:
You know Pete has the wireless tether fix that unlocks the sprint tethering.
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This only unlocks the 3G tethering though, not 4G. Right? Or did I miss where that was also fixed?
I thought on nexus s 4g was free tethering on google own app on 3g and 4g?
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tech7 said:
I thought on nexus s 4g was free tethering on google own app on 3g and 4g?
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Nope, not true. When it first was out, 3G was.... but subsequent updates have stopped even that.
I think the max on Bluetooth tethering is something like 2 MB download so make sure your getting all you can.
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No other thoughts on this?
Yeah David279, it probably isn't fast enough to get full 4G speeds, but still plenty fast for the little bit I'd use it.... oh well, I guess I'll keep paying $29.99 a month until someone figures out how to do infrastructure in wifi tether on the Nexus S (or until I buy the prime if it ends up on Sprint).
Have u try the latest beta of wifi tether
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Alright so currently I am using my phone very so often to tether my N7 when I have poor WiFi at school or work. I have an HTC Inspire 4G running Jelly Bean and using an app called SVTP which turns my phone into a WiFi hotspot. Works well, the only problem is it eats up my battery in the course of about 2 hours. Now I've heard that tethering via Bluetooth is more battery friendly for both devices. Is this true? If so what apps do you recommend?
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Alright so currently I am using my phone very so often to tether my N7 when I have poor WiFi at school or work. I have an HTC Inspire 4G running Jelly Bean and using an app called SVTP which turns my phone into a WiFi hotspot. Works well, the only problem is it eats up my battery in the course of about 2 hours. Now I've heard that tethering via Bluetooth is more battery friendly for both devices. Is this true? If so what apps do you recommend?
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Yes, it's true. BT tethering is way more battery friendly than any other method.
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Yes, it's true. BT tethering is way more battery friendly than any other method.
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Does using BT reduce the over heating? As OP asked, what app do you use?
I use the default mobile hot spot app on my HTC Sensation 4G. I would recommend foxfi because it gives you the option for both wifi hot spot and bluetooth hot spot.
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I just use the BT tethering built in on my CM9 ICS based ROM.
For me its:
1) Pair using BT
2) Go into Phone > System Settings > Tethering & Portable Hotspot > Check "Share Internet Connection" under BT
3) Go to Tablet > System Settings > Bluetooth > Options of paired phone > Use for internet connection
extremely awesome app- NFC hotspot free. Gnex to N7 tether.
Perhaps I should also mention I have At&t with an unlimited data plan, but no tethering plan. I say that only because neither approach stated above works. Foxfi will not download. "App is not available with your carrier." And the Bluetooth in the settings also failed.
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jmikeb92 said:
Perhaps I should also mention I have At&t with an unlimited data plan, but no tethering plan. I say that only because neither approach stated above works. Foxfi will not download. "App is not available with your carrier." And the Bluetooth in the settings also failed.
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Side load it then. Foxfi has a proxy setting built in (add on app), perfect from users like you've. The problem I have with foxfi is there's only one security setting and there's no way to disable ssid Broadcastng.
So just side loaded Foxfi and its working perfectly. I think it is even faster than the WiFi hotspot. Now I do have a question. At what point do you think At&t might catch on to me if at all? I only ask because I've heard some horror stories about tethering without a plan.
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wouldn't using Bluetooth tether @ home from your phone using the wifi allow the tablet to have better battery life while the n7's wifi is turned off.
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Juice Defender +Bluetooth tether lets my tablet go 3 or 5 days not having to charge. Mind u i use it to read @ ngt with the screen dimmed and the Facebook app removed(using only www mobile version.) I have to charge my phone more though.
I use WiFi Tether 3.2 pre-1 with my Droid X CM7. Works great in a pinch. Used it while going up north this weekend to cache some google maps before wireless coverage was gone. I have the unlimited plan still but I would never use it to stream movies or things like that. VZW could catch on.
Got a text message that I have been blocked from using wifi tether. On a fully unlimited plan with t-mobile. I realize that normally you have to pay for wifi tether, but I am on CM10.1 so I didn't think they would be able to tell? I had Verizon in the past with wifi tether on my Galaxy Nexus and used it a lot without a problem. Is t-mobile more strict or what?
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Got a text message that I have been blocked from using wifi tether. On a fully unlimited plan with t-mobile. I realize that normally you have to pay for wifi tether, but I am on CM10.1 so I didn't think they would be able to tell? I had Verizon in the past with wifi tether on my Galaxy Nexus and used it a lot without a problem. Is t-mobile more strict or what?
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I've tethered plenty of times on Tmobile with no issues, don't even bother to change the useragent on my browser when I do. Sounds like you've been doing it either very frequently or using excessive bandwidth and they caught on to you. Knowing it's a service they charge extra for you coulda been more careful .
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I've tethered plenty of times on Tmobile with no issues, don't even bother to change the useragent on my browser when I do. Sounds like you've been doing it either very frequently or using excessive bandwidth and they caught on to you. Knowing it's a service they charge extra for you coulda been more careful .
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That's kinda crazy! I just checked my bill and I used 5 gigs last month and 1.6 so far this billing cycle. Doesnt seem to extreme to me!
How much of that usage was tethering?
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Got a text message that I have been blocked from using wifi tether. On a fully unlimited plan with t-mobile. I realize that normally you have to pay for wifi tether, but I am on CM10.1 so I didn't think they would be able to tell? I had Verizon in the past with wifi tether on my Galaxy Nexus and used it a lot without a problem. Is t-mobile more strict or what?
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Oh yeah they can tell. I got a push text (not a normal one) on my cm10.1 yelling at me about tethering, only after 30 seconds of viewing a webpage. I was able to use my hidemyass vpn and not a peep.
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How much of that usage was tethering?
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According to Data Usage in Settings (I assume it is all reported under Tethering and portable hot spot? Or does it also report as browser?):
This month: 140MB
Last month: 334MB
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According to Data Usage in Settings (I assume it is all reported under Tethering and portable hot spot? Or does it also report as browser?):
This month: 140MB
Last month: 334MB
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I'm wondering with the 500mb of tethering included with unlimited if they are going to be doing good less random checks. Have you thought about switching to or making sure your on the new plan?
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I'm wondering with the 500mb of tethering included with unlimited if they are going to be doing good less random checks. Have you thought about switching to or making sure your on the new plan?
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I just signed a 2 year contract so I dont think I can change plans I signed to get the free nexus 4 promo
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I just signed a 2 year contract so I dont think I can change plans I signed to get the free nexus 4 promo
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Use a vpn tmobile packet sniffs your browsers user agent so say chrome for Windows pops up on their tower that's how they find out
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Change your browser's "User Agent" (addon/plugin) to android or some other mobile device. That way, Tmo will think you're using data on your mobile and you won't get flagged for hotspot tethering.
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Change your browser's "User Agent" (addon/plugin) to android or some other mobile device. That way, Tmo will think you're using data on your mobile and you won't get flagged for hotspot tethering.
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Thanks guys, I've installed an add on to Chrome on my desktop and changed by user agent to Chrome/Nexus 4. Tested it out on a wired connection and most web sites seem to be going to the mobile version, so I think it is working.
However, it looks like as I was experimenting trying to get around the block, they have completely disabled tether all together. Got another text that said wifi tether was been blocked. I can connect, but before I was at least getting a t-moble splash page. Now I get no internet connection at all. Hopefully they re-enable in a few days or by next billing cycle.
Are you using an app to tether or built in method
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BrianDigital said:
Are you using an app to tether or built in method
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I tried both WiFi tether apk and built in
Does anyone know if Koush's tether app gets around this?
And what about using a VPN, is that a solid solution?
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Does anyone know if Koush's tether app gets around this?
And what about using a VPN, is that a solid solution?
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It should be or it could be my luck, my idea is. If tmobile can't see your packets then they can't tell what you're doing
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I just rooted the G2(vzw) and I tried 3 different tethering apps from the playstore and none work. It doesnt even broadcast a signal.
On barnacle it says "WIFI: Could not sed ad-hoc mode of wlan0: Operation not supported on trasnport endpoint"
I'm not a heavy data user, but I do need to tether since there is no ISP in my area (just 56k ('yes i said that) and satellite which is ridiculously expensive).
The Att version g had a built on tethering app did u freeze or uninstall that if you did unfreeze it..I just turned tethered on my g2
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The Att version g had a built on tethering app did u freeze or uninstall that if you did unfreeze it..I just turned tethered on my g2
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I have the verizon verison therefore if I try the built in app I get the pop-up saying I need the subscription. I'm grandfathered into the unlimited data.
Same here. No go just yet. Usb tethering works (Fox fi) but no wireless tether yet. (Verizon unlimited here)
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Mods could you close this thread. There's another thread with more activity, thank you.
on tmobile you get free wifi hotspot with the unlimited data package. been using it quite a bit today. have you tried the android wifi tether ? https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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Mods could you close this thread. There's another thread with more activity, thank you.
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Which thread are you referring to? I couldn't find it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456338
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