[Q] S4 root info - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I wanted to root my galaxy s4 gt i9500
So just before i root it, i just wanted to know the best program which i could use to backup and restore
I also wanted to know that if i do back it up, then will my data on apps (eg. the levels reached or progress in a game) be deleted or will it come back with the restore.
I really need help in this.
Thanks

re: backups
TAANIS said:
I wanted to root my galaxy s4 gt i9500
So just before i root it, i just wanted to know the best program which i could use to backup and restore
I also wanted to know that if i do back it up, then will my data on apps (eg. the levels reached or progress in a game) be deleted or will it come back with the restore.
I really need help in this.
Thanks
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There are two kinds of backup/restore...
One backs up the actual firmware/rom the other kind of backup backs up applications
which are installed in your phone.
The best for application backup/restore "Titanium Backup" (it does backup game and application data)
The best way to backup your entire firmware/rom is by using TWRP recovery.
Twrp can be installed using "goomanager" a app which you can download from playstore,
Titanium backup is also an app you can download from the playstore.
Good luck!

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[Q] Help...!!!!!!!!!!!

I was thinking to install your rom and i was on STOCK FROYA 2.2(DDJP2) so can i install it directly and if i do so will i loose the installed apps that i have now cuz i had some nice apps which i din't want to be gone so asking....................like GoChat as if this app goes off then i'll loose all my stored settings that can't be recovered.............
Thank you And all the help appreciated
riyaz058 said:
I was thinking to install your rom and i was on STOCK FROYA 2.2(DDJP2) so can i install it directly and if i do so will i loose the installed apps that i have now cuz i had some nice apps which i din't want to be gone so asking....................like GoChat as if this app goes off then i'll loose all my stored settings that can't be recovered.............
Thank you And all the help appreciated
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Which Rom do you want to flash ..?
Regarding apps, root your phone using superoneclick and make a backup using titanium backup from market.. Once you flash the new Rom you can have all your apps and data as they were by restoring the backup..
Sent from the 3rd Galaxy !
using titanium backup should i have to backup my apps to sdcard
i wanted to give a try for Destiny 1.2 and using titanium backup will save the apps along with all its settings and after i backup then should i have to install each apks again or will titanium backup will recover it automatically
You can restore all the apps with a single click...
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So by one click all apps will get installed automatically and the app settings will also be retained right...........................and any tutorial or links how to do the titanium backup will be of great help as Ive already rooted my phone
Yes
Its very easy..no need for a tutorial.. Open titanium backup-touch menu button-select batch..
Here You will find all the options you need..
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Thank You buddy
You're welcome
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Different Backup Methods

I was hoping to learn the differences between certain backup methods. The most common i saw is via recovery (in my case twrp), via titanium backup and another via adb command even without root which i saw in one of the threads here in xda.
First, in terms of "backup coverage" how do they compare to one another? Secondly, which among the three would most put ur phone back the way it was before u wipe or factory reset it
I hope you could input your opinions on this and suggestions.
Thanks in advance!
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A backup through recovery is a called a nandroid. This backs up everything on your phone including your ROM, kernel, apps, settings, etc. This will allow you to restore back to the previous state of your phone after doing a full wipe.
Titanium backup only backs up your apps and app data. This is useful when you want to switch ROMs and restore your apps in the new ROM.
Usually when switching ROMs I first use titanium backup, then I create a nandroid backup, and finally I flash the ROM. If I like the ROM I use titanium to restore the apps that I previously backed up, and if I don't like the ROM I restore my nandroid
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Doing a backup with twrp, cwm or thru adb (nandroid backups) are basically image files of your phone at any given moment in time. If you restore one of these backups your restoring your phone to exactly how it was at that moment in time. Titanium backup and Helium backup just backup cached data at that particular moment in time. Using these apps will only restore the data you specified when you did the backup and nothing else. Say you borked an install of a ROM, Titanium backup would be of no use in getting your phone working again as it only has data and not a system image. You would need the images backed up by twrp to get the phone working again then you could use the titanium backups to restore any newer data saved if say you used an old twrp backup.
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
vinz_bangiz said:
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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With the pro version u can run a batch backup of all apps.
To do this open the app, press the menu button in the top tight corner, and select Batch.
Then choose Backup all user apps. From there you can select/deselect apps. When you are done choosing the apps that you would like to backup, click on the green check mark in the top right corner to start the backup.
vinz_bangiz said:
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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I stopped using Titanium and switched to Helium a while back and can't really remember how Ti works exactly. I do know you should never restore system apps data just user apps data so I don't even bother backing up systems apps. I think with Ti I would just do an initial backup of all user data and apps and then periodically do a backup of newer user data and apps, or something to that effect in the menu. I do like Helium better as its interface is better, never could figure out how to backup or restore sms, call logs and the dictionary using Ti. Helium is much more straight forward and simpler (not as many options) and it does backups on a set schedule to my box account. I'm sure you can do all that with Ti too it was just not a very clean app.
thanks again for the replies..
@ chromium96
i think it is the same as clicking the box with check icon beside the menu, it brings me to the page the same as where you are leading me to but in just one click. Though im not so sure if it is really the same one.
I did a backup now but made a user app + system data.
kzoodroid mentioned not to backup system. Should I really not backup the system? Im quite confused with the terminologies of TI coz it says backup "user apps". Does this only refer to the apps and not the settings or data in my phone? does the backup "system data" refer to the settings and other data on my phone? if I choose only backup "user apps", would this only backup the apps and nothing else?
@ kzoodroid
could you explain further why I should never backup systems apps?
Lastly, is Helium really better than TI? or it depends on user preference?
Thanks again!
there are 2 kind of apps stored in your phone, system apps, only accesible with root privilege, and user apps,
system apps are phone, browser,wallpapers, etc, this are the basic apps to make your phone to work
user apps are all the stuff you, the user, install on your phone
the first one can be found, via file managers on /system/app
user app in /data or in sdcard for apps can use this option
the user app back-up, via Tb or others create a back-up of /data and apps you choose to install
restoring a system app via Tb is dangerous cause if you've switched rom the /system/app can be different, so restoring can cause trouble or misbehavior on your phone
/system/app back.up can be used only if you, before deleting a system app, want to have a copy to restore in future, but only if you still on the same rom
stremax said:
there are 2 kind of apps stored in your phone, system apps, only accesible with root privilege, and user apps,
system apps are phone, browser,wallpapers, etc, this are the basic apps to make your phone to work
user apps are all the stuff you, the user, install on your phone
the first one can be found, via file managers on /system/app
user app in /data or in sdcard for apps can use this option
the user app back-up, via Tb or others create a back-up of /data and apps you choose to install
restoring a system app via Tb is dangerous cause if you've switched rom the /system/app can be different, so restoring can cause trouble or misbehavior on your phone
/system/app back.up can be used only if you, before deleting a system app, want to have a copy to restore in future, but only if you still on the same rom
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Thanks for the reply! kinda getting an idea what you mean.. if I backup the system also, then i put a new rom and it may be different from my current roms system so it might mess it up. so just backup user app and restore this after installing new rom then it would be ok and back to how it was before i installed a new rom? Do i understand it right?
vinz_bangiz said:
Thanks for the reply! kinda getting an idea what you mean.. if I backup the system also, then i put a new rom and it may be different from my current roms system so it might mess it up. so just backup user app and restore this after installing new rom then it would be ok and back to how it was before i installed a new rom? Do i understand it right?
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right man,
only back-up user apps and data, if you like you can also back-up call log and messages, I usually do this, so when I flash a new rom I usually restore apps +apps data, messages and call log via Tb
vinz_bangiz said:
another via adb command even without root which i saw in one of the threads here in xda.
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I found the ADB backup doesn't work as well as the other methods. I found some apps didn't seem to get backed up, and at least one didn't work after restoring (though this could be because I used Titanium Backup to restore the app from the ADB backup file).

Complete backup app+data without root

I need a program like helium that i can make a COMPLETE FULL APP+DATA backup of mobiles like samsung galaxy s4 i9505 android 4.3 WITHOUT ROOT.
Is there any safe program that is can do backup/restore?
The helium i try it does the work but it can't some programs like google chrome.
Do you have any other app to suggest me?
A LOT OF THANKS.
re: backup restore
fits79 said:
I need a program like helium that i can make a COMPLETE FULL APP+DATA backup of mobiles like samsung galaxy s4 i9505 android 4.3 WITHOUT ROOT.
Is there any safe program that is can do backup/restore?
The helium i try it does the work but it can't some programs like google chrome.
Do you have any other app to suggest me?
A LOT OF THANKS.
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Try "Go Backup & Restore" it does not require root. Here is the link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jiubang.go.backup.ex
Good luck!
Sorry my friend but this backup app is as all the backup app's except helium.
NEED ROOT TO BACKUP SETTINGS/DATA OF EACH APP so it's completely USELESS for me.
It is good to know what app you suggest to anyone based on what it asked.

Easiest way to restore apps and associated data

Hi folks
A galaxy s4 user here. I have a rooted device and play around with many Roms but am finding my way of installing a new ROM and then restoring my data to be long winded and tedious and am looking for a better way.
Currently I run nightly backups using titanium backup and online nandroid backup.
I am finding though when I restore apps and data using nandroid backup then it all cases its only restoring the app and not the data.
If I use titanium backup I can restore both app and data but the process of restoring my missing items using the batch feature is still messy.
What I want to do is install a new ROM from scratch, connect to google and then use google to restore the apps (as it can only do that anyway) this way I know I am running latest version of app and then use some other restore utility to identify all the users app I have installed and identify the respective data to be resorted.
Is there an app out there that intelligently talks with play store and is able to restore just the data?
Appreciate any help on this. MODs if there is a better forum to put this in my apologises but feel free to move it.
Thanks [emoji5]
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[Question] How do you backup apps when moving to a new ROM/Phone?

I was wondering how you guys usually backup your phone when going from let's say stock to LineageOS? I was wondering this because I feel my way takes more time than it needs to and if there's a better method I'm glad to hear it.
I'll go first:
I backup first through Titanium backup which is a great app for restoring most data such as wifi passwords and app data for some apps. Secondly I'll make a backup using Helium because it backs up some apps that aren't compatible with TB's way of handling things such as Defenders III. Thirdly and most Important backup I make is through twrp in case I need to go back and get something I forgot or if "the **** hits the fan" on the new ROM.
j0nas_ said:
I was wondering how you guys usually backup your phone when going from let's say stock to LineageOS? I was wondering this because I feel my way takes more time than it needs to and if there's a better method I'm glad to hear it.
I'll go first:
I backup first through Titanium backup which is a great app for restoring most data such as wifi passwords and app data for some apps. Secondly I'll make a backup using Helium because it backs up some apps that aren't compatible with TB's way of handling things such as Defenders III. Thirdly and most Important backup I make is through twrp in case I need to go back and get something I forgot or if "the **** hits the fan" on the new ROM.
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use titanium backup pro or helium app
You might try to backup apps in titanium backup, secondly for photos and videos and all other stuff what I do is connect my phone to a PC and copy paste all folders displayed latter I can swap them pretty fast
I don't back up my apps. I don't have many apps installed so it doesn't really matter.
For data, I use adb.
Backup - adb pull /sdcard/
Restore - adb push <WHAT> /sdcard/<LOCATION>
I backup with TBU - never had any problems backing up or restoring.
But how do you get Helium to work for your Moto G4? I've tried several times/methods but it just doesn't work. I am rooted with InvictaOS and Helium gets stuck on checking SuperUser. When I cancel that out and try to connect via the computer it fails to recognize the G4, whether I'm on MTP or PTP.
The only reason I'm trying Helium is that I recently got a great deal on a Verizon E4 and want to play around with it. But since it's Verizon...no bootloader unlock. I'm going crazy trying to transfer my app data to the E4, which, ironically, is recognized by Helium.
I have never been a fan of iPhone, but they at least have a method to transfer app data to to a new phone, an area that Android is lacking. If i ever get another new phone that can't be rooted, I'm screwed if I want to keep my app data, such as from my Memo app, etc...
Sorry for rant/hi-jack.

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