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Hi, I never did that, but I was playing to Anthelion 2 on my PPC and I thank that it could be great to port Homeworld 1 or Cataclysm to the PPC, and I would like to know how to do that, I think that I could "recompiler" it, but I don't know how, and I would like to know if a tutorial has been created somewhere on the net?...
I'm not sure if it would be even technically possible. Well, the newest pdas _might_ be powerful enough to run something like HW1 but i'm not sure if it's such a good idea. Did you try to run homeworld in 640x480 resolution? Most of the time you'll see ships as groups of two to eight pixels. Now imagine it all squished on a phone three-inch screen: try ordering your corvettes to smash that annoying bomber on a screen that small I think that a bit better idea would be porting really old games, that were designed to run in VGA or even lower resolutions (SubCulture, Command&Conquer, I-War, Dark Forces are some of the titles i'd pay for ).
Anyway, back to porting subject.
First of all you would need the source code of the program you want to port - in case of homewrld1 it's not a problem.
Secondly, you would have to make sure that all libraries (graphic, sound, input, etc) used by a game have windows mobile/windowsCE versions. Again, homeworld1 seems lucky since it has been ported to SDL - a multiplatform opensource graphic/sound/input library.
But that's where good news end. Porting a game is not just a matter of grabbing the PC version source and recompiling it. If it was as easy, we would have hundreds of PC games already ported You need considerable programming skills to actually create a port because usualy not all libraries used by a game a compatible with WindowsCE. An example - the opensource version of homeworld uses OpenGL for graphic rendering. The pocket version would have to use OpenGL's "little brother" - OpenGLES. As far as i know, they're not 100% identical, so to put it simply, you would have to make the game talk in OGLES language, instead of standard OGL. And doing changes in graphic rendering routines usually breaks something else, so you'd have to go and fix it.
I'm not trying to discourage you here but i'd suggest learning to program for WindowsCE (or at least for PC) _before_ attempting to port anything - doing it the other way around will be just a waste of time and a source of frustration.
There are some development resources that can help start the adventure with programming here on xda. You could also search for some general C/C++ tutorials targeting PC's. If you consider getting into programming, i suggest checking out SDL - Many games use it, and thanks to this library you can skip the OS-specific part of coding and get right to the fun stuff - a program that actually does/displays anything For an even easier start, you might want to check out QuickCG - a SDL wrapper simplifying the coding even further.
Oki, thanks for your answer, I've a friend who is learning to program in C++, so, I'll ask him if he can help me to do that, it would be great to have this game on a PPC (perhaps the Diamond, because it has D3D and OpenGL Drivers, or of the iPhone, but I guess that the programming language is not the same as the PPC...
[EDIT] STARCRAFT would be great to, and easier to port on PPC, because of his age and that he uses 2d Graphisms...
You should look into the stratagus engine.
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You should look into the stratagus engine.
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Nice Engine, but it's not Starcraft, but I can't find the Source Code on the net, they could give the source code with the game when you buy it
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Hey, it's Calvin, I found him
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Stargus a starcraft's clone, I'm trying to download it, but I don't know if it works for PPC...
You might want to check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497086&highlight=starcraft
Hi mates, i need an advice about programing a simple app for WM6 actually for my Diamond, which should #include a simple main menu with settings, and most important a Homescreen plugin to show some text depending on a time of a day, and maybe some pics(small pics)
so here is the question, what coding programe would you recommend me to use? i know C and Pascal and a bit of C++
The app i want to do is about foreign language learning, and should show some frases or idioms during a day on the home screen,so you can observe the new words when you simple look at the homescreen
Thank you in advance for any kind of advice
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Hi mates, i need an advice about programing a simple app for WM6 actually for my Diamond, which should #include a simple main menu with settings, and most important a Homescreen plugin to show some text depending on a time of a day, and maybe some pics(small pics)
so here is the question, what coding programe would you recommend me to use? i know C and Pascal and a bit of C++
The app i want to do is about foreign language learning, and should show some frases or idioms during a day on the home screen,so you can observe the new words when you simple look at the homescreen
Thank you in advance for any kind of advice
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I'm not a pro on legacy today plugins, but in order to make a today plugin .dll you'll need to instal visual studio .net (I use 2008, sometimes). Here's an interesting pick on how to get started with today plugins: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms839442.aspx .
It would be a lot easier to make a plugin for WM 6.5 Titanium, which requires les BS . You could use basic4ppc or mortscript for this purpose, which are a lot like visual basic.
rpereira thanks a lot , i'll give it a study.
hope i can create smth worth the effort
I am not to sure if this is the correct area for this. But I am wondering how hard it is to make a Android game? This isn't something I want to just jump into, but learn while I am doing it and take my time.
So how challenging is it to someone who has no experience?
Thank You
Do you have any programming experience at all?
If you know languages like C++ or Java you're pretty close already. Android is programmed in Java, and you need to be familiar with Java's memory management to understand what happens behind the scenes since memory is critical on a mobile device. Also you should get some experience with multithreaded programming, since most times you'll need threads to complete tasks without getting the UI stuck.
Android uses a component based architecture that might be a bit unfamiliar in the beginning, since there's no 'main' entrypoint and you have to split your app into 'activities' that talk to each other through 'intents'.
Games present additional challenges, since they often require you to take care of several things involved with graphics and audio, so maybe they're not the ideal first step into programming.
I started programming for my phone on my Touch HD (windows mobile 6.5, using c#). I'd done some java (not a lot, really, and I hated it), some c (a bit, liked it much more) and quite a few script languages.
I have to say, I got into c# with the compact .NET framework VERY easily. It was very straightforwards, nicely syntaxed ... it was just programming as I'd known it. I've made some office apps, one or two games (just for fun, although the apps were meant to be sold ... **** MS for going wp7 and incompatible!; they were solid pieces of software engineering, if I say so myself)
Two weeks ago I got my Desire HD and a few books on programming Android ( O'Reilly, Sam's) and went looking through developer.android.com .
And I have to say, I find it hard! The concepts and how they work together are a bit ... uhm ... distributed. Good software design, but hard on the programmer (and ****ing verbose to actually type in the porgamming! Sheesh!). It took me a while to grok how all these systems are fitting together: to be honest, I'm still trying to make it all jell. All these intents, services, activities, broadcast receivers ... very interesting, but just thinking of the best (or even correct!) way of setting up your porgram is kinda difficult.
But, that's just me, in two weeks time in my spare time. I am getting it now and it is interesting (and, actually, very well set up for what they want android to do/be). c# was just easier, friendlier and faster to get into.
Sorry if this sounds negative: learning a new language isn't EASY, but it is FUN And very informative. If you have a few hours to start off with and then an hour a day, go for it ... but keep in mind there are easier/more straightforwards programming languages/environments than android (or so I think).
I would like to know this too because I got my HTC Wildfire for a few months now and I just rooted my phone yesterday to get into the whole development and modding.
I would like to learn how to make a widget first and then move onto a app/game. My goal would be to know how to create a 2D based side scroller, I would like to recreate "Bio Menace" for the Android. (I have the sprites and maps, now I only need to learn to make it into a game). (Bio Menace was my all-time favorite game when I was a child and I sometimes still play it on dosbox, but I would like to take it with me on transits to work)
I have no experience in Programming at all, I only did graphical stuff (Photoshop, 3DS Max) I know a little html for basic websites, but this was also more in Dreamweaver with the layout to designer.
So I found these books on android, but before I begin to read any of them. Can somebody tell me which book is best to start on first or which book to skip? I also like a video tutorial, but has anybody seen it? Is it any good?
Ebooks
Apress: Beginning Android 2 http://apress.com/book/view/9781430226291
Apress: Pro Android Games http://apress.com/book/view/9781430226475
Apress: Pro Android 2 http://apress.com/book/view/9781430226598
CommonsWare LLC The Busy Coders Guide to Android Development http://commonsware.com/Android/
Sam's Sams Teach Yourself Android Application Development in 24 Hours http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-Android-Application-Development/dp/0321673352
O'Reilly Media: Building Android Apps with HTML CSS and JavaScript http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920010067
O'Reilly Media: Hello Android 3rd Edition http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781934356562
Video tutorial
O'Reilly Media: Developing Android Applications with Java, Part 1 http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920001690
Sorry to threadjack you, but it made no sense to me to start a new thread on the same topic. There really should be an own section for noobs or a good sticky with this kind of information for noobs.
lol Im in the process of learning java right now, basic java though.
Mathods
Interfaces
Static Methods
Im pretty interested in what I need to know for development on the andriod platform. By mid/late spring I should know quite a bit more. Taking an Advanced java course. Current I only know C#, C++, and Visual Basics.
Never worked on a GUI before =(.
Hiya,
I have noooooo knowledge about any computer language and want to learn Java as i heard that its the language required to develop android apps. I know it takes alot of time to develop apps but im ready to spend my time so kindly let me know how can u start learning java at home? and should i learn anything before learning that as i dont know a word about programming
Thanks
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=65FYTS7W
That's a download for Java tutorials. To actually do them you'll need a compiler. I use jGrasp but there are many others you can use. Eclipse is pretty popular and they all do the same thing basically. A compiler can be downloaded on the internet, and you'll need to download Java from Sun Microsystems as well. Just to let you know you gotta be pretty dedicated, it takes a lot of time to make good apps. Google's App inventor is an alternative to learning code.
thanks for da help but da prob is dat i need to start from basics, like the full basics of programming even simple definitions, can u also guide me a book or ebook for that too so that i can learn the super basics like definitions first b4 learnin java
thanks
n btw the link doesnt work
This may get you started:
http://download.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/
But if you're never programmed in any language, you need to take an intro to programming course.
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can u learn this intro to programming online? or thru any book?
I don't have anything I can recommend. But there's tons of info online. Just do a google search for 'Intro to programming'. That's how I found this:
http://math.hws.edu/javanotes/
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thanksss ill take a look at it
I started with the book, hello android 3rd edition. Its a great book.
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Did u start from zero from this book? I mean u had to learn the basic terms and definitions even??
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You cant try this Stanford University lectures on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/StanfordUniversity#g/c/84A56BC7F4A1F852 ..or just search for "Mehran Sahami Programming Methodology" in itunes U if you use itunes.. Same lectures. I think its a really good starting point.
Bro you should check out "Starting out with Java: From control structures to objects" by tony gadis. Just google it. Its the one I used in my intro to programming course. It starts out as basic as can be. Its really good
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I was in his shoes...about 15 years ago LOL Wow, where does the time go? 2 degrees and a couple careers later I guess.
What I would stress are a few things:
1. Learn how to do some flow charts before you write code
2. Learn the basics of program flow (if/else, do/while, switch/case statements)
3. Learn the "types" of your language (int, String, float, char, modulus etc.)
4. Learn some data structures (arrays, Lists, Vectors etc.)
5. Learn about functions and/or classes. Remember that a function should be fairly short and very specific to a task, like: getUserName, calculateCheckingBalance etc.
6. START SMALL AND WORK TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY!
I can't stress how important #6 is. Do a "Hello World" program just to get used to writing some code.
Think of some simple programs like: write numbers 1 to 10 to an array and print them out backwards, ask user to input what year they were born in and print them back their age. Advance up to something like a ATM simulator where you can make deposits, withdrawals, check your balance. I did all similar type things in Programming 101.
I still love the Dietel and Dietel books...get one for JAVA and it's money well spent in my opinion.
I've uploaded some of my university lectures which start from the absolute basics.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=854462
They may help you
Thanksss guyssssssssss ill look over all these! thanksss alottt
mohsin125 said:
Hiya,
I have noooooo knowledge about any computer language and want to learn Java as i heard that its the language required to develop android apps. I know it takes alot of time to develop apps but im ready to spend my time so kindly let me know how can u start learning java at home? and should i learn anything before learning that as i dont know a word about programming
Thanks
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Hello XDA forum members.I want to be able to make my own Android applications that could work via internet.I would like to create small and simple social network with some simple functions.I'm starting with learning of programing in C++ because I always wanted to know to program in that language.But first I would like to create an application that would be used in Android.So I'm willing to learn an additional language just so I could make this idea that I have and I'm sure that I will use this knowledge in future.
So my question is in what program do you code applications for Android smartphones,what is the best way to learn it and when I learn it I want to be able to make application like Badoo(social,meeting application) Badoo is the best example of what I'm trying to do because it is downloadable application that connects to their website.Because this idea that I have will have similar interface and similar features.Please help me with your advice so I don't loose time on mistakes and trying on different languages.Thank you in advance.
Try Aide
From google play it teaches you how you can create applications.
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Hello
the native language to learn for Android app is java but you should have OO notions before, like with C# (very similar) or C++.