With the Nexus 5 out (hopefully) soon, Ill have a retired and unused Nexus 4. With the news of the T-Mobile free 200mb for tablets , it got me thinking.
Is it possible to trick t-mobile into thinking the nexus 4 is a tablet? Would this take a custom ROM? (I assume if possible, it would)
Or, is it just a matter of getting a data-only sim and signing it up for the tablet coverage?
Evan55 said:
With the Nexus 5 out (hopefully) soon, Ill have a retired and unused Nexus 4. With the news of the T-Mobile free 200mb for tablets , it got me thinking.
Is it possible to trick t-mobile into thinking the nexus 4 is a tablet? Would this take a custom ROM? (I assume if possible, it would)
Or, is it just a matter of getting a data-only sim and signing it up for the tablet coverage?
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+1 I'd also like to know if this was even remotely possible, if so I might trick my dad in getting me a nexus 5 by saying it comes with free data lol
abrahammmmmmm_ said:
+1 I'd also like to know if this was even remotely possible, if so I might trick my dad in getting me a nexus 5 by saying it comes with free data lol
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Sucks being young doesn't it? Glad I'm 27 and can get what I want by working for it lol
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Damn, I just posted the same thought. I never even imagined that someone would have brought it up
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I'm looking for a way too
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edit build prop and change device model
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edit build prop and change device model
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I know that works to download "incompatible" apps from the play store.. Could anyone confirm this would work? I actually think T-Mobile confirms it by the device's imei identification code which contains information about the device model, if so tricking T-Mobile would be practically impossible unless we changed it to a nexus 7 one which I've heard doing so is illegal for some dumb reason
Won't work. The IMEI is hard coded into the firmware and changing it is illegal. When you activate the phone on T-Mobile to begin with you give them the imei and seriel number and they put it in their database and know what it is, therefore I'm thinking 0.000001% chance of it working
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I called and acted dumb. I thought it was a nexus 7, the guy said that the imei that I gave him was for a phone. I wish I just had the imei number of a nexus7 LTE, so I could try giving them that
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Won't work. The IMEI is hard coded into the firmware and changing it is illegal. When you activate the phone on T-Mobile to begin with you give them the imei and seriel number and they put it in their database and know what it is, therefore I'm thinking 0.000001% chance of it working
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The legality is gray, since the law clearly mentions stolen phones, and this /should/ be your phone. That's why I consider it okay to change the imei of YOUR phone.
This can be taken back to the jailbreak issue (iPhone crowd). I find it very hard to believe that someone can charge you for anything you do with your phone, on your carrier account.
Look at the people that bypass the network throttling
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First off, not sure if this is in the right section but if its not please mods feel free to move. Also if this in anyway violates forum rules please remove.
With that said, as the title implies I need help from someone that fits the description of the title. Why? Long story, but I'll try summarizing it.
I bought a use nexus, everything works and its in perfect condition. Except that its blocked from T-Mobile. I hadn't notice this as I just recently tried activating it with them. before that I was with AT&T and everything worked perfectly. So what do I need? I would like to find someone who is willing to swap phones (same model). That only needs it for AT&T (or straight talk, etc). Like stated, phone is in perfect condition except a small scratch near the sim slot, Unlock boot loader, running Carbon ( I could put it back to stock). So please if you're willing to help me out PM me and we could work something out. Thanks.
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If its blocked from T-Mobile it was stolen and the IMEI was blacklisted. Irreversible, unless you want to illegally change the IMEI
Google is your friend there
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Nice information. So is there anyway to check a used phone if it is in any blacklist?
What do mean "it's blocked by Tmobile?"
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As in bad IMEI number, up till yesterday I had no idea T-Mobile blocked phones. My guess is that the guy who sold it to me was doing fraud, report it lost so he could get another one. Reason being is that a few days later he hit me up asking me if I wanted another one of course I had no need for it so I just disregard his message...
Anyhow, if anyone is willing to do an swap. Let me know and we could work something out.
It works perfectly for at&t or any other carrier except T-Mobile :/
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Nice information. So is there anyway to check a used phone if it is in any blacklist?
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My guess is no, unless you call T-Mobile and ask em about the IMEI number. So if you're planning on purchasing a use T-Mobile phone call first!
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Stolen/fraud and ATT will likely block the phone soon since they started sharing their blacklist database last year.
I feel for you. I also appreciate the full disclosure. But, I think that you're most likely stuck with it. After all this is a forum full of nexus owners so you'd be hard pressed to get a someone to even swap their nexus that's on the network of their choosing for one with a questionable esn. Perhaps if you sweetened the pot(throw in some $) you'd have better luck.
With that out the way... why didn't you demand a refund from the seller? Or at least swapped for the phone he text to try to sell you? Did you even tell the seller about the fact you couldn't activate the phone?
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Stolen/fraud and ATT will likely block the phone soon since they started sharing their blacklist database last year.
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Where did you hear this?
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Where did you hear this?
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...e-database-combat-smartphone-theft/2012-11-01
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lol thinkin of stealing one?
anyways, real answer.... dont quote me on this because im not 100% sure, but i believe any device with an IMEI can be blacklisted and this goes across carriers. IE: get blacklisted on tmobile, itll be blacklisted on att also. someone correct me please if im wrong
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I would guess technically they could block any IMEI number they wanted. Sort of like MAC filtering on a network.
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lol thinkin of stealing one?
anyways, real answer.... dont quote me on this because im not 100% sure, but i believe any device with an IMEI can be blacklisted and this goes across carriers. IE: get blacklisted on tmobile, itll be blacklisted on att also. someone correct me please if im wrong
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Never stolen anything in my life. My friend wants to buy one from CL but is afraid the seller might report it lost later on and tmobile then blacklists the phone. However i read that this phone cannot be blacklisted since it comes unlocked...
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Yes the phone can be blacklisted. Tmo and Att are suppose to have a database so phones , with Verizon and. Sprint joining the database later this year
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I have sold and bought a few phones on CL and never had a seller call and report it stolen. Not saying it won't ever happen. I do always get a receipt with price and name and signature of the seller. Every time.
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Yes but i was expecting this to be about the illegal LTE usage.
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I have sold and bought a few phones on CL and never had a seller call and report it stolen. Not saying it won't ever happen. I do always get a receipt with price and name and signature of the seller. Every time.
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That is a good idea actually.
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Yes. I purchased one of CL that was blacklisted on tmo and att. Was pissed but I'm over it. It's now a nice looking mp3 player.
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Never stolen anything in my life. My friend wants to buy one from CL but is afraid the seller might report it lost later on and tmobile then blacklists the phone. However i read that this phone cannot be blacklisted since it comes unlocked...
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How come your friend just doesn't get it from the play store? It's a lot safe.
Again what everybody else says, a buyer can report it stolen if they want to (or if the device was stolen and resold in the first place).
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zephiK said:
How come your friend just doesn't get it from the play store? It's a lot safe.
Again what everybody else says, a buyer can report it stolen if they want to (or if the device was stolen and resold in the first place).
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Definitely. Swappa and eBay are also good sources. Just make sure to use a bit of good logic and common sense and there shouldn't be a problem with either. Hell, I bought my mint N4 off swappa, got it in 2 days, and it was as mint as mint gets. Same goes for when i bought my galaxy nexus, except that was on ebay.
I could be wrong, but the only blacklisted phoned I've ever encountered, and this has only been recently I've started even seeing this, are phones that were bought on the subsidized plans and then the contract wasn't fulfilled.
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I could be wrong, but the only blacklisted phoned I've ever encountered, and this has only been recently I've started even seeing this, are phones that were bought on the subsidized plans and then the contract wasn't fulfilled.
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any device that is registered on any network can be blocked/blacklisted by the account holder or if the EIP isn't paid off on a cancelled account. the IMEI is then unable to be used on any carrier within the US. You can still use the device in Canada or overseas with a local SIM card. the blacklisting is only here in the States.
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How come your friend just doesn't get it from the play store? It's a lot safe.
Again what everybody else says, a buyer can report it stolen if they want to (or if the device was stolen and resold in the first place).
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It goes for $280 brwnd new nexus 16gb on CL. Playstore costs 399.
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dEris said:
Yes. I purchased one of CL that was blacklisted on tmo and att. Was pissed but I'm over it. It's now a nice looking mp3 player.
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What's the point of doing that? Unless they have an insurance of some kind it doesn't make any sense.
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any device that is registered on any network can be blocked/blacklisted by the account holder or if the EIP isn't paid off on a cancelled account. the IMEI is then unable to be used on any carrier within the US. You can still use the device in Canada or overseas with a local SIM card. the blacklisting is only here in the States.
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Yeah I understand that but in my experience T-Mobile won't kill the IMEI on a stolen phone without a few things in check first...like a police report and stuff. I live in Philadelphia, you know what its like calling the cops and filing a police report for a stolen cell phone lol...
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What's the point of doing that? Unless they have an insurance of some kind it doesn't make any sense.
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The seller sold me a working phone, few days later reported it stolen. So he profited off me and also got a new N4 for a small deductible.
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Yeah I understand that but in my experience T-Mobile won't kill the IMEI on a stolen phone without a few things in check first...like a police report and stuff. I live in Philadelphia, you know what its like calling the cops and filing a police report for a stolen cell phone lol...
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They killit immediately once insurance reports to them that your phone was declared lost. Law.
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They killit immediately once insurance reports to them that your phone was declared lost. Law.
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Yeah with a police report. That's law here in PA at least. I assure you of that, had a phone stolen out of my business last year, called T-Mobile...wouldn't even replace it on my insurance without a police report.
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I have sold and bought a few phones on CL and never had a seller call and report it stolen. Not saying it won't ever happen. I do always get a receipt with price and name and signature of the seller. Every time.
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A receipt and signature will not stop someone from reporting the phone stolen and getting it blacklisted.
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Hi All, I seem to be having a unique problem. I've searched the Web, gone to a T-Mobile store (A bunch of useless idiots), called Google Nexus support, called LG (Equally as stupid as the T-Mobile employees) They could not help me in any way whatsoever. As the title suggests, my Nexus 4 is not getting any signal with a T-Mobile SIM inserted. I used the phone on AT&T for 2 months with no problems at all. I've tried multiple T-Mobile SIMs and AT&T SIMs and the results are always the same. The phone is pure stock. No modifications. If anyone has any sort of knowledge or experience with this issue, your comments will be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Bad esn.
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are you using the tmobile apn settings?
Wireless and Networking -> More... -> Mobile Networks ->
Check Access Point Names (to verify using a Tmobile APN)
Also check Network Operators to select automatic or T-Mobile.
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Bad esn.
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I thought GSM phones don't have ESN?
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Bad esn.
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I thought GSM phones don't have ESN?
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right. cdma phones have a esn. the nexus 4 is a gsm phone.
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I thought GSM phones don't have ESN?
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He meant it was blacklisted by tmobile.
Did you buy it used?
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He meant it was blacklisted by tmobile.
Did you buy it used?
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Yes I did. How would a phone be blacklisted? And is it possible to get it unblacklisted? Haha. And to reply to the rest of you, I have checked APN and Network operator.
There seem to be a lot of n4's that have issues connecting to or staying connected to t mobile service. As for a fix, dunno.
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right. cdma phones have a esn. the nexus 4 is a gsm phone.
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Imie
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Imie
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right again, imei.
but if he checked imei, and its fine, then its not disabled.
my next question, have you tried to factory reset it, then boot it up with a good tmobile sim in it?
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There seem to be a lot of n4's that have issues connecting to or staying connected to t mobile service. As for a fix, dunno.
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Been fine on my Nexus, course I've only used T-Mobile with mine, I haven't been on AT&T with it.
Also Phone companies don't seem to be in the habit of blacklisting phones, In fact there's been quite a few people pushing for them to blacklist IMEI and such in the cases of say stolen phones and such, but many just simply don't have a database in place for it.
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Yes I did. How would a phone be blacklisted? And is it possible to get it unblacklisted? Haha. And to reply to the rest of you, I have checked APN and Network operator.
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There is a chance that the former user was a tmobile user who has tmobile insurance which uses asurion. There's a good chance that he committed insurance fraud and reported the nexus 4 lost or stolen. Asurion will then blacklist that phone for that carrier. Tmobile themselves don't blacklist the phone, but asurion does.
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There is a chance that the former user was a tmobile user who has tmobile insurance which uses asurion. There's a good chance that he committed insurance fraud and reported the nexus 4 lost or stolen. Asurion will then blacklist that phone for that carrier. Tmobile themselves don't blacklist the phone, but asurion does.
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Man that would suck if that was the case, I wonder if there's a way he can check.
what do i do i please help i have personal information like address and other important things and it was stolen by someone i do not know
Have you tried plan b from the play store. If it still has data connection, or when it does get it (such as wifi), that is probably your best bet.
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Call your carrier to disable it
And I feel sorry for you
Getting your phone stolen sucks
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memphian said:
Have you tried plan b from the play store. If it still has data connection, or when it does get it (such as wifi), that is probably your best bet.
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i tried remotely installing android lost but cannot register as the device is turned off. it was almost dead before it was stolen so i figure thats what it is. i am with at&t is there any way to go through them to make the phone as least usable as possible? i have very important information and im sure theres other important things on there i dont even know about that could be a security threat. what do i do
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Have you tried plan b from the play store. If it still has data connection, or when it does get it (such as wifi), that is probably your best bet.
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Plan B does not work anymore.
If you had anti theft software installed, use it. If not, good luck getting it back.
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Damn Cerberus was free too recently. They were handing out lifetime accounts for free. Happy I got mine. It's not 100% but at least it's a shot.
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If you still have your original box call up Google and give them your imei number on the box they can block the whole phone making it useless
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If you still have your original box call up Google and give them your imei number on the box they can block the whole phone making it useless
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I saw another post somewhere saying Google refused to block there imei but still worth a shot,
Also @op I'd blocking by Google, or carrier are your only options. I think Google could probably wipe the phone ota for you if they wanted to, worth a shot
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milesjohnson said:
what do i do i please help i have personal information like address and other important things and it was stolen by someone i do not know
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Change your Google password that will block your phone from being used
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Skip wasting time with Google, they will do nothing, it has nothing to do with them. Call your carrier, they will suspend your account, which isn't a whole lot, and will most likely only block IMEI number with a police report, at least that's T-Mobile policy.
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Skip wasting time with Google, they will do nothing, it has nothing to do with them. Call your carrier, they will suspend your account, which isn't a whole lot, and will most likely only block IMEI number with a police report, at least that's T-Mobile policy.
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Isn't it a bit ironic that you're talking about not wasting time but you replied to this thread three days after the main activity?
Nigeldg said:
Isn't it a bit ironic that you're talking about not wasting time but you replied to this thread three days after the main activity?
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Or is it ironic you had nothing better to do than make note of that? guess irony in is the eye of the beholder.
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Yeah, calling your carrier is the best bet. If you have anti theft then you can remotely wipe your data and information off the phone. Hope you find your phone back.
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Just switched to the prepay plan and I'm blocked how can I get my imei unblocked I am original owner will post all proof I just called in one day and asked for my service to be disconnected then later I bought a new Sim to start new service from Walmart
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I have edited your thread title... requesting methods or ways of modifying your IMEI is illegal.
So is there any way to fix it?
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So is there any way to fix it?
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Only option is to call your provider. If they won't fix it. Then Switch your provider.
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Switching providers will I be able to use it?
From T-Mobile to at&t go phone?
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You may have to dispute the block with the original carrier that added it to the block list. They may have flagged the phone as lost or stolen, and while it may work on another carrier, it may catch up and get blocked there as well.
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Switching providers will I be able to use it?
From T-Mobile to at&t go phone?
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Pay off your phone and you'll be able to use it! Ditching T-Mobile service before you have paid off your phone is stealing!
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Pay off your phone and you'll be able to use it! Ditching T-Mobile service before you have paid off your phone is stealing!
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Nah bill was $120 I'd rather it be $30
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Nah bill was $120 I'd rather it be $30
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Well you're stealing the phone from your provider! That phone is not yours until you pay it off! I hope you won't be able to use it on any carrier!
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Nah bill was $120 I'd rather it be $30
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Well then your SOL. What you are trying to do is illegal and you will have to deal with it. Carriers are starting to share the Blocked IMEIs so even if you switch carriers you may still not be able to do it.
As stated, pay off your legal contract and they will unblock it.
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Nah bill was $120 I'd rather it be $30
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LOL!!! That's got to be the leading candidate for idiotic post of the day! Any other entries, or should we just crown this one?
Crown it. ..
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You can try this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.droidgram.bladeunlock
Really effective thing, to unlock you have to open the app, press menu, press Relock Phone and press Ok/Yes.
Of course you cannot unlock it yet until you fully paid it off so wait until that's done.
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andyabc said:
You can try this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.droidgram.bladeunlock
Really effective thing, to unlock you have to open the app, press menu, press Relock Phone and press Ok/Yes.
Of course you cannot unlock it yet until you fully paid it off so wait until that's done.
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The Nexus 4 is already network unlocked, so the app is useless.
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The Nexus 4 is already network unlocked, so the app is useless.
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It is for people who have fully paid for the Nexus 4 on a certain carrier.
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Ok this thread has gone on long enough.