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deciding factor will be battery and camera
If your deciding factors are the camera and battery - this definitely.
I went for this due to the Nexus 4 having a ****ty battery. Sick of the Nexus devices being a nearly there device.
Since you are posting this in the G2 forum you should probably expect lots of "buy the G2" answers, of course.
But yeah if the deciding factors are camera and battery, G2 will win on both of those, no doubt about it. Unless all these Nexus leaks have been totally fake and Google releases a completely different N5 than we've all been expecting. That doesn't seem very likely, so buy the G2.
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deciding factor will be battery and camera
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Ill tell you something, The Nexus 5 will be all AOSP stock based, As of right now of the time of this writing the Verizon G2 has 10 roms, half are stock based half are open source based. With a stable CM base that just came out a day ago 5 AOSP based roms have dropped in this one section alone already. Suffice it to say there will be no shortage of open source Roms and clearly this seems evident from the sudden burst of AOSP based roms. On top of that the G2 will have its stock based Roms as well so this makes it a very versatile device to the N5, which will just be Pure AOSP, and a little boring for my taste. Having Stock and AOSP based official Roms makes it a double edged sword, it gives you more options when Rom hunting.
Better camera and bigger battery. So, what stop you?
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while i really welcome the ROMs popping up, you still can't compare it with a nexus experience, first off Aosp on LG2 will always have some **** reverse engineered drivers, workarounds,......... it for sure will hit a level were it works good, but that's it.
On the other side a Nexus Device will get support also from devs much longer then any branded bloatware phone, you will see so many different ROMs, Aosp based but also ports from other devices, Miui, Sony, Samsung,......... and any of this will work perfect from day one because there is no need to reverse engineer any driver.
The only thing what I really like about the G2 is it's huge battery, but then again we still don't know how the N5 will work with its 2300mah or maybe more battery, or if kit kat really improves battery usage.
So personally I would wait for the official release and then for the first reviews, then it is still soon enough to make a decision.
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Do you want a larger screen ?
Do you want a better battery ?
Do you want a 13MP camera ?
Do you want the "knock-on" feature in order to keep your power button from wearing because the thousands of presses ?
Do you want an FM radio ?
Do you want a universal IR remote to switch the TV channel to your favorite channel in public places ?
If yes, you don't really have any other choice.
These phones are only current for 1 year anyway, then their hardware becomes obsolete.
get the G2. I just cant kill this thing. I am too spoiled with bigger batteries. I have high hopes for the nexus but the battery compromise sucks. but it makes sense because who would buy a G2 then? I had the G2 then left it for the note 3. and got rid of the note 3 and went back to G2 so that says a lot. if the nexus would have a 3000ma battery then its a no brainer. but at this point no one knows
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On top of that the G2 will have its stock based Roms as well so this makes it a very versatile device to the N5, which will just be Pure AOSP, and a little boring for my taste. Having Stock and AOSP based official Roms makes it a double edged sword, it gives you more options when Rom hunting.
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I dont know why people talk about CM, AOSP, etc, in my experience with Galaxy S2 that roms are horrible compared with stock, lockups, gps not functioning, battery horrible, the only advantage is costumization, besides that there is no advantage compared with stock, at least in my experiencie.
There is no comparison between N5 and G2, N5 will be an inferior product.
So tired of the Nexus line. They always have hardware compromises somewhere. Small storage, bad camera, whatever. I'd rather get the hardware I want, then flash the rom that makes me happy, rather than have great software but never be able to change the crappy camera or small battery or whatever.
So get the G2.
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So tired of the Nexus line. They always have hardware compromises somewhere. Small storage, bad camera, whatever. I'd rather get the hardware I want, then flash the rom that makes me happy, rather than have great software but never be able to change the crappy camera or small battery or whatever.
So get the G2.
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Or worse display... no matter how much you tweak it... shielding problems classic static in the speaker....Or my favorite no USB OTG...
I was for a long time CM only guy. Always nightly always testing. Came from HOX. Had a N4.
Bought a LG G2 and ti my surprise am happy with the old android as well. Suddenly I do not need the latest...
Well it's mostly cuz of xposed that dev deserves a medal!.
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Do you want a universal IR remote to switch the TV channel to your favorite channel in public places ?
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That one almost got me.
I'm in the same case aswell, I can't choose between the two. And I'm dying to get a new phone.
That's a crazy feeling
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That one almost got me.
I'm in the same case aswell, I can't choose between the two. And I'm dying to get a new phone.
That's a crazy feeling
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Look, I owned two genuine Nexus devices and seen more. They are nothing special.
Snappy, let's stay stable. But lacking something extra you can get here.
And mostly due to cutting costs, some parts not as good as the branded alternative.
If you do not have the money for a G2 wait for the nexus.
If you do. G2 is really worth the money.
Think about it like this. You can make the G2 into a nexus like device. But you wont be able turn the nexus into the G2. (Missing hw etc)
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That one almost got me.
I'm in the same case aswell, I can't choose between the two. And I'm dying to get a new phone.
That's a crazy feeling
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Go to each vs thread on this site...the g2 wins all the battles...that's says something. Get the G2 & don't look back
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Look, I owned two genuine Nexus devices and seen more. They are nothing special.
Snappy, let's stay stable. But lacking something extra you can get here.
And mostly due to cutting costs, some parts not as good as the branded alternative.
If you do not have the money for a G2 wait for the nexus.
If you do. G2 is really worth the money.
Think about it like this. You can make the G2 into a nexus like device. But you wont be able turn the nexus into the G2. (Missing hw etc)
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Yeah you got a big point here. But the weird button placement kinda push me back.
And seems like there is more development on verizon G2 than international..
(Can't we flash verizon's on intl? )
(Even tho the intl got Cyano and AOKP as I saw)
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Go to each vs thread on this site...the g2 wins all the battles...that's says something. Get the G2 & don't look back
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Yeah, I saw the battery life reports, performance etc, the device is beautiful, borderless, but when you drop it, you're more likely to break the screen. (even if I droped my n4 2 times in 8 month time) This is really some stuff I gotta take in count.
Besides everything that has been said already, I really like the power/volume buttons on the back. Theyve grown on me, I find them useful and its unique, and the power button is another extra led light btw. The button placements on the nexus 5 is ehh basic and I'm not a fan of the way that camera lens looks on the back. Like others said go for the G2 if you have the money, if not nexus 5 is fine too.
bought G2 today ! :victory:
will get by monday !
32gb white
I'm sick of waiting. I'm getting the G2 tomorrow.
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Besides everything that has been said already, I really like the power/volume buttons on the back. Theyve grown on me, I find them useful and its unique, and the power button is another extra led light btw. The button placements on the nexus 5 is ehh basic and I'm not a fan of the way that camera lens looks on the back. Like others said go for the G2 if you have the money, if not nexus 5 is fine too.
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Dammmmn. Okay then, I'll just wait tonight to see if the N5 is announced.
If it is not, LG G2.
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I'm sick of waiting. I'm getting the G2 tomorrow.
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I guess that's nice . 32Gb?
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Dammmmn. Okay then, I'll just wait tonight to see if the N5 is announced.
If it is not, LG G2.
I guess that's nice . 32Gb?
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Yeah they only have 32g here. Will be nice coming from the S2 and it's 16g.
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If so, thoughts and opinions? I've had the LGOG since the 5th of November, and I'm seriously considering selling and grabbing the N4...
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Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the LGOG?
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
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Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the LGOG?
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
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This requires more of an depth response than I currently have time for, I'll post again later tonight. Very quickly, I really like the LGOG, but I just have some niggles that are killing me, and most of them I *think* would be solved on the N4.
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I haven't tried the LGOG but they are essentially the same internal components except the LGOG has what I hear is a pretty mediocre 13 megapixel camera. I don't like the LGOG design because it's more square-ish and the rounded look of the Nexus 4 is much better but that is a matter of taste. Stock JB could solve some of your problems if they are software related, from what I hear Motorola's and LG's android skins are not very good.
Havent had the Otimus G but it looks like a very very good phone...But if you switch to the N4 you wont regret it...Development is gonna go crazy for this phone...theres so many Devs that I know that are coming to this phone who are just waiting to get one...this N4 forum is already great with very helpful people and its only gonna get better so if you looking to tweak and rom out...this is the spot...believe me!!!
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I haven't tried the LGOG but they are essentially the same internal components except the LGOG has what I hear is a pretty mediocre 13 megapixel camera. I don't like the LGOG design because it's more square-ish and the rounded look of the Nexus 4 is much better but that is a matter of taste. Stock JB could solve some of your problems if they are software related, from what I hear Motorola's and LG's android skins are not very good.
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AT&T LGOG has the 8MP cam, as well as an SD slot, and LTE. I thought the AT&T LGOG looked better than the N4, but I haven't held an N4. LG's Android skin is okay. Not as intrusive as Sense, but not as silly as Touchwiz. I never use the stock launcher on a phone, so with the LG you can't notice it much.
I don't have LTE around here, so that's not an issue. Performance wise the AT&T LGOG is superb for the most part. Even with ICS. Its the smoothest/fastest Android device I've used. (I've used a TON, all the big players except the new DNA)
HUGE deal breaker for me is the notification LED on the AT&T LGOG. Its a small ring around the power button. Can't see it. Ever. Also its not multi-colored. Then you put a case on it, even the Belkin bumper, and its completely covered up. Gone.
My WiFi performance is horrible. The range seems very short, and it never wants to automatically connect. Not just my home network, but several others. Then when I manually try to do something, it usually gets stuck in a half off/half on state, and I have to reboot. This could be a software issue that could very easily get fixed in the future.
A lot of us are having insane battery issues. Myself, if I'm SUPER lucky, I get 10hrs. Android OS is always at the top, by far. The screen isn't ever at the top no matter how much you use it. Some are saying its a 3G fast dormancy issue. I've got LTE disabled. I'm also running a no bloat ROM, with a kernel that's under-volted. Again, software issues that are probably going to be fixed eventually.
Which brings me to my last issue. Dev support. The bootloader is unlocked, and that's awesome. If you look in the dev section, we have ONE rom. If you look in the Original dev section, we have ONE kernel. I have no idea if the AT&T version is going to take off or not, but its off to the slowest start I've ever seen on a new device of this caliber. Also I'm missing JB. I'm really REALLY missing AOKP. Some of the best times I ever had on an Android device was my GNex w/AOKP.
So this is where I'm at. Give up a better looking phone (yes yes, debatable) LTE, (which I don't have anyway) and the SD slot, to gain a MUCH better notification LED, JB 4.2, WAY WAY more dev support, and obviously faster updates. (I've had Nexus phones before, hell I still have an N1)
Thoughts?
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AT&T LGOG has the 8MP cam, as well as an SD slot, and LTE. I thought the AT&T LGOG looked better than the N4, but I haven't held an N4. LG's Android skin is okay. Not as intrusive as Sense, but not as silly as Touchwiz. I never use the stock launcher on a phone, so with the LG you can't notice it much.
I don't have LTE around here, so that's not an issue. Performance wise the AT&T LGOG is superb for the most part. Even with ICS. Its the smoothest/fastest Android device I've used. (I've used a TON, all the big players except the new DNA)
HUGE deal breaker for me is the notification LED on the AT&T LGOG. Its a small ring around the power button. Can't see it. Ever. Also its not multi-colored. Then you put a case on it, even the Belkin bumper, and its completely covered up. Gone.
My WiFi performance is horrible. The range seems very short, and it never wants to automatically connect. Not just my home network, but several others. Then when I manually try to do something, it usually gets stuck in a half off/half on state, and I have to reboot. This could be a software issue that could very easily get fixed in the future.
A lot of us are having insane battery issues. Myself, if I'm SUPER lucky, I get 10hrs. Android OS is always at the top, by far. The screen isn't ever at the top no matter how much you use it. Some are saying its a 3G fast dormancy issue. I've got LTE disabled. I'm also running a no bloat ROM, with a kernel that's under-volted. Again, software issues that are probably going to be fixed eventually.
Which brings me to my last issue. Dev support. The bootloader is unlocked, and that's awesome. If you look in the dev section, we have ONE rom. If you look in the Original dev section, we have ONE kernel. I have no idea if the AT&T version is going to take off or not, but its off to the slowest start I've ever seen on a new device of this caliber. Also I'm missing JB. I'm really REALLY missing AOKP. Some of the best times I ever had on an Android device was my GNex w/AOKP.
So this is where I'm at. Give up a better looking phone (yes yes, debatable) LTE, (which I don't have anyway) and the SD slot, to gain a MUCH better notification LED, JB 4.2, WAY WAY more dev support, and obviously faster updates. (I've had Nexus phones before, hell I still have an N1)
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Very good post Boosted...so are you considering switching since you love AOKP???...we got it here and I read that is pretty good...Im running PA7 with is awesome...very smooth and stable...
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Very good post Boosted...so are you considering switching since you love AOKP???...we got it here and I read that is pretty good...Im running PA7 with is awesome...very smooth and stable...
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I haven't had a chance to go over the N4 forum much yet, I just got this wild hair up my ass today. Let me throw up some screenshots of some benches.... see what you think.
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very good scores...seems like the same as the N4...their pretty much the same phone or very close...I guess your comfortable with the phone the scrores shows its a keeper or If you wanna go flash crazy...come join us over here lol...
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So this is where I'm at. Give up a better looking phone (yes yes, debatable) LTE, (which I don't have anyway) and the SD slot, to gain a MUCH better notification LED, JB 4.2, WAY WAY more dev support, and obviously faster updates. (I've had Nexus phones before, hell I still have an N1)
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Design is a matter of taste, agree there.
I gave up LTE. I had 15-20 Mbps and now I have 3-7 Mbps. I only notice the difference when I try to download big files. I can barely notice the difference when I watch HD videos. My brother has a Nexus 4 on T-mobile and he averages 15-20 Mbps. I am in San Diego BTW.
I got the 8GB version and I don't need more than that. I carry an iPhone 3G as a PMP and I just got a $50 HTC One V that I am switching to. I am trying to move my Music and Videos to the cloud but the slower data is a little bump in the road.
I think LG HAD to make a top of the line phone for AT&T so they came out with the LGOG but knew that it wasn't going to sell too well. I still haven't seen an add for one. I am pretty sure that the average consumer does not go into the store with the knowledge of the LGOG even existing.
The Nexus 4 is probably going to be one of the top 3 phones with dev support, probably only behind the GS3. Since the LGOG from AT&T doesn't even seem to be the same version from other GSM version you can bet there's going to be a VERY small dev support.
They are identical hardware, sans LTE. But in the very beginning the N4 was having throttling issues and low benches for all the reviewers. Not that benches mean anything for real word usage. How's it feel?
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They are identical hardware, sans LTE. But in the very beginning the N4 was having throttling issues and low benches for all the reviewers. Not that benches mean anything for real word usage. How's it feel?
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Someone said that benches were probably not optimized for the hardware and 4.2, haven't tried myself or seen any new benches.
I like it. The device feels solid. I never owned a Gnex but it felt plasticy just like most Samsung device including my old Note. I am really not concerned about the glass but I take REALLY good care of all my devices. I like the design. I always put a case on my phones but I like this design too much to cover it up so I just got screen protectors for the front and back. I hear people saying it scratches if you put it on a counter but then again doesn't all glass scratch? The software is fast, smooth, snappy, etc... It's stock, it's great. I haven't even found a reason to install a different ROM.
Device feels very great...super fast...no lag at all...Im very happy I decided to go for the N4...I have no complaints at all...
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Design is a matter of taste, agree there.
I gave up LTE. I had 15-20 Mbps and now I have 3-7 Mbps. I only notice the difference when I try to download big files. I can barely notice the difference when I watch HD videos. My brother has a Nexus 4 on T-mobile and he averages 15-20 Mbps. I am in San Diego BTW.
I got the 8GB version and I don't need more than that. I carry an iPhone 3G as a PMP and I just got a $50 HTC One V that I am switching to. I am trying to move my Music and Videos to the cloud but the slower data is a little bump in the road.
I think LG HAD to make a top of the line phone for AT&T so they came out with the LGOG but knew that it wasn't going to sell too well. I still haven't seen an add for one. I am pretty sure that the average consumer does not go into the store with the knowledge of the LGOG even existing.
The Nexus 4 is probably going to be one of the top 3 phones with dev support, probably only behind the GS3. Since the LGOG from AT&T doesn't even seem to be the same version from other GSM version you can bet there's going to be a VERY small dev support.
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I'm gettting about 6mbps down with the LGOG. As long as the N4 gets close to that, I'm fine. I'm on WiFi most of the day.
You haven't seen the commercial with the guy making the action scene in a movie w/the AT&T LGOG? I've seen it several times. But, NO one around me knows about the LGOG, the SGSIII is the big one right now. ( I had the international version on launch day, great phone) I get asked all the time "why did you get of your SGSIII???" as they look at me like a befuddled puppy.
I would think the N4 should be THE top dev phone, its a Nexus after all? (phone for devs) The GNex dev section was nuts.
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Someone said that benches were probably not optimized for the hardware and 4.2, haven't tried myself or seen any new benches.
I like it. The device feels solid. I never owned a Gnex but it felt plasticy just like most Samsung device including my old Note. I am really not concerned about the glass but I take REALLY good care of all my devices. I like the design. I always put a case on my phones but I like this design too much to cover it up so I just got screen protectors for the front and back. I hear people saying it scratches if you put it on a counter but then again doesn't all glass scratch? The software is fast, smooth, snappy, etc... It's stock, it's great. I haven't even found a reason to install a different ROM.
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Yeah, I stopped using cases awhile back, and started using Ghost Armor. But with this phone I didn't wanna cover it up, so it got nothing. Then I found the Belkin bumper case, and tried that. Not bad, but I wouldn't do it again. Personally I like the glass. Gives it a spiffier, heavier feel. But then again I liked the thin light feel of the SGS2, Gnex, and SGS3. I'm not real picky about style/feel. Although I can't stand HTC's layout. The power button on top makes me want to throw the phone. (I did like the One X though, other than the power button and Sense)
I am however a flash/customization-aholic. I was really banking on the AT&T LGOG dev support taking off more than it has.
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I'm gettting about 6mbps down with the LGOG. As long as the N4 gets close to that, I'm fine. I'm on WiFi most of the day.
You haven't seen the commercial with the guy making the action scene in a movie w/the AT&T LGOG? I've seen it several times. But, NO one around me knows about the LGOG, the SGSIII is the big one right now. ( I had the international version on launch day, great phone) I get asked all the time "why did you get of your SGSIII???" as they look at me like a befuddled puppy.
I would think the N4 should be THE top dev phone, its a Nexus after all? (phone for devs) The GNex dev section was nuts.
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I am a big smart phone fan in general but even I didn't know about the LGOG until people started saying that the Nexus 4 was going to be pretty much the same thing as the LGOG. Maybe I did hear about it but I didn't care, I wasn't too happy when I heard LG was making the next Nexus device. LG is just not too good at marketing their products and making customers even consider getting an LG product. If you don't get LTE in your area then I think the Nexus 4 is a no brainer. You may even get faster speeds on HSPA+, some people get about 10-15 Mbps on their Nexus 4. I am in an LTE market so I am screwed, AT&T is not going to develop their HSPA+ network anymore here.
Yeah I'm leaning towards getting the N4. I wish someone who's had both could post. The LED and JB w/dev support alone is enough to convert me. LTE is useless, and I will slightly miss the SD slot.
Any WiFi or battery issues?
I see you can actually order one now, but its 6-7 weeks out!! It will be old news by then!
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from what I hear Motorola's and LG's android skins are not very good.
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This is outdated. Starting with the Optimistic G, LG's skin is now in "Not Awful, But Bulky" territory, and Motorola's skin is actually quite good (starting with the Atrix HD and other ICS-based devices), and provides some genuine functional improvement on AOSP without any real downsides.
Hey gentlemen.
Verizon Variant still has no bootloader bypass to flash kernels and development as of 11/19/2013 seems to be a ghost town.
While the G2 scene compared to ours is on fire.
Anyone thinking about moving to the G2?
The white VZW G2 renders I have seen look pretty hot.
Right now the G2 has Loki, so they can flash kernels, etc and with it being the Nexus 5's sister phone
kitkat and 5.0 should come quickly.
thoughts?
If I was in my 14 day window I would try out the G2.
Im fed up with the radios on Samsung phones.
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Hey gentlemen.
Verizon Variant still has no bootloader bypass to flash kernels and development as of 11/19/2013 seems to be a ghost town.
While the G2 scene compared to ours is on fire.
Anyone thinking about moving to the G2?
The white VZW G2 renders I have seen look pretty hot.
Right now the G2 has Loki, so they can flash kernels, etc and with it being the Nexus 5's sister phone
kitkat and 5.0 should come quickly.
thoughts?
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Kinda. I guess if you're after AOSP stuff, I can see how the N3 situation would be depressing. Having many roms for many years, we're not in a bad place. KitKat will come soon, we're otherwise one of the few devices that is/was on 4.3. Custom kernels rarely amount to anything worthwhile but a bit of extra battery life. I haven't gone back to look at Note 2 stuff though I still have the device laying around, but I'm not sure how well they integrated the S-Pen in any of it.
The G2 is somewhat appealing, but the N3 is still the top device on the market (specs alone, not to mention battery size + removability and microSD). We have custom roms now (you can even safestrap beans, back it up, restore it over stock, delete the old rom slot and run completely custom with no issues). I came to the Note 2 and now 3 because of the S-Pen, and no other phone is on the horizon with anything comparable - otherwise I might have a more normal sized phone - except, again, the N3 is the top specced phone on the market, so I might have it anyway.
If the new HTC One/M8 met or exceeded the N3 specs, plus microSD and removable battery, I'd strongly consider jumping ship. HTC build quality is still so much better than Samsung/LG, and they are continuing to make camera a priority. It's a shame we can't get a Lumia 1020-level camera device on Android. I'd leave the N3 for that, for sure.
Edit: And yes, radios! My HTC Rezound had so much better radios than any Samsung.
I'd say that the Note 3 is the best phone I've owned. I'm not looking into a change at this time. I live more in apps than the OS so I'm OK with Touchwiz for the time being.
I was at sprint the other day checking out htc one max and the white g2 is sharp except it feels like crap in hand and ui is awful i think. and buttons on the back get out. on a side note wish verizon has a red htc one cause it looks hot!!
I used to be a AOSP/AOKP Gnex guy. But I DO really enjoy touchwiz believe it or not!.
However, the option for true Hybrid roms would be great, plus having the leg up on waiting ages for either Samsung OR LG to update
thier devices once Android 5 or whatever comes around the Devs are always first.
Kernels are a pretty big deal for many features other than battery life.
Idk. I just think back to the Droid X days where the bootloader/Kernel really crippled the device in terms of making full use of the hardware.
Kinda torn. the Note 3 is a beast.
but so is the G2, while feeling better in the hand.
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I used to be a AOSP/AOKP Gnex guy. But I DO really enjoy touchwiz believe it or not!.
However, the option for true Hybrid roms would be great, plus having the leg up on waiting ages for either Samsung OR LG to update
thier devices once Android 5 or whatever comes around the Devs are always first.
Kernels are a pretty big deal for many features other than battery life.
Idk. I just think back to the Droid X days where the bootloader/Kernel really crippled the device in terms of making full use of the hardware.
Kinda torn. the Note 3 is a beast.
but so is the G2, while feeling better in the hand.
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Like I said, if it weren't for the S-Pen, I doubt I'd have had a Note 2, much less a Note 3. With the leaks of the HTC One replacement/update, I'd probably have a G2 right now and be waiting to jump to the HTC .. assuming I could get over not having microSD/removable battery.
And don't discount the Galaxy S5. You have to figure Samsung has some solid upgrades in store for that, likely above what the N3 has.
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If I was in my 14 day window I would try out the G2.
Im fed up with the radios on Samsung phones.
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Have you thought about getting your phone replaced? Maybe you have a defective unit? I have two Note 3s at home , 3 co-workers have it, and my cousin and his fiancé have it and none of ours have signal/reception issues. Hoping your radio problems are solved soon, sir.
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Hi all,
I'm new to all this so please bare with me a little bit. I've used apple products for many years, but in getting a little sick of iOS7 and the lack of jaibreak. So I've decided to make the leap to android (something I never thought I would do).
I have my choices narrowed down to the Nexus 5 and LG G2. Both phones at currently available for $99 on 2 yr term. The Nexus only comes in the 16gb version while the G2 is 32gb for the same price. I'm having a tough time deciding between the two. I like the Nexus 5 because it gets the OS updates fast and won't require removal of bloat. It's also unlocked.
The G2 seems to have a slight hardware edge with battery life, camera and screen size. It's also 32gb, but it's not stock android and is carrier locked.
My question is, given the same price for both, is it better to get the nexus 5 or get the G2 and use a custom rom to mimic the stock nexus 5? Will it be a hassle to keep the G2 updated, and how bug free would the experience be.
Thanks
SB
SillyBearito said:
Hi all,
I'm new to all this so please bare with me a little bit. I've used apple products for many years, but in getting a little sick of iOS7 and the lack of jaibreak. So I've decided to make the leap to android (something I never thought I would do).
I have my choices narrowed down to the Nexus 5 and LG G2. Both phones at currently available for $99 on 2 yr term. The Nexus only comes in the 16gb version while the G2 is 32gb for the same price. I'm having a tough time deciding between the two. I like the Nexus 5 because it gets the OS updates fast and won't require removal of bloat. It's also unlocked.
The G2 seems to have a slight hardware edge with battery life, camera and screen size. It's also 32gb, but it's not stock android and is carrier locked.
My question is, given the same price for both, is it better to get the nexus 5 or get the G2 and use a custom rom to mimic the stock nexus 5? Will it be a hassle to keep the G2 updated, and how bug free would the experience be.
Thanks
SB
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I have the Nexus and will be paying to get the G2. Software can be changed, hardware can't.
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I have the Nexus and will be paying to get the G2. Software can be changed, hardware can't.
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Exactly... hardware in the g2 is slightly better on almost every level exept for the hardware but that can always be changed with roms this is also why i am happy i just got the g2 and didnt wait for the N5 and im sure the majority of G2 users you ask on here will say the same thing...
G2 is better.
androidcentral made a good comparaison of both phones. you can see it just by typing "The Nexus 5 vs. the LG G2" in Google.
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I have the Nexus and will be paying to get the G2. Software can be changed, hardware can't.
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That's a good way to put it. I guess I'm trying to gauge how easy it would be to customize the G2. Also hoping KitKat is made available soon.
How much storage did your iPhones have? Was it sufficient for your needs?
I store a lot media on my phone and find 32GB to be a comfortable size, but individual usage should dictate.
I'm not familiar with the Apple ecosystem so I can't intelligently compare the experience with regard to bugs, updates, hacks, etc.
N5 vs G2 hardware comes down to screen size and battery capacity as far as I'm concerned. There are some minor differences with regard to camera performance, screen performance, and ergonomics. I believe either will end up being both bigger and longer lasting than iPhone, but how much bigger can you tolerate? The G2 is at the upper limit of what I, personally, can comfortably pocket-carry all day. The N5 has a bit smaller chassis, I believe.
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Cyko.Tech67 said:
Exactly... hardware in the g2 is slightly better on almost every level exept for the hardware but that can always be changed with roms this is also why i am happy i just got the g2 and didnt wait for the N5 and im sure the majority of G2 users you ask on here will say the same thing...
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If all I'm hoping to do is cut down on the bloat and just get rid of most of the theming PG did, would I have a tough time finding the software support and how buggy would it become?
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How much storage did your iPhones have? Was it sufficient for your needs?
I store a lot media on my phone and find 32GB to be a comfortable size, but individual usage should dictate.
I'm not familiar with the Apple ecosystem so I can't intelligently compare the experience with regard to bugs, updates, hacks, etc.
N5 vs G2 hardware comes down to screen size and battery capacity as far as I'm concerned. There are some minor differences with regard to camera performance, screen performance, and ergonomics.
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I've always had 16gb iPhones, but lately I find that I'm trying to manage the storage a lot more.
My iPhones have always been stable, always works and never a problem. Jailbreaking and customizing it is also fairy easy. I have no idea what process for rooting and using custom roms for an android is like.
As someone said, the hardware is permanent. I'm leaning towards the G2 because for the same price I'm getting a lot more out of it.
CleanROM is all you would need. Since it's Stock Without the Bloat it's essentially bug-free.
I don't know how tough it is to jailbreak and maintain a hacked iPhone, but most any competent Windows user should be able to root and ROM either N5 or G2. If you can manually install drivers and aren't afraid of some cut/paste into command lines, you'll be region's in no time.
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My logic was that I love AOKP roms.
If you throw AOKP on both phones.... which one would you prefer?
Nuff Said. Go with the G2.
Guys, please take a look into THIS thread, especially at 4)
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Well, my contract's up in a few days and my Mako is already earmarked for a new home (a friend who had her S4 stolen only a couple of weeks after getting it and is currently stuck using an HTC Desire running stock 2.2) and that means it's decision time (again.)
I'm fairly settled on a G2 (hence my post here) but I just wanted to see if anybody has any specific advice for/against. It seems like a bad time to be buying a new phone, with a round of new releases having just come up. However, I have zero interest in the S5 (I hate Samsung, although mainly for inflicting Exynos and its buggy drivers/kernels on the world, plus I ideally want a camera with OIS) and I'm very dubious of the Z2, knowing several people with badly scratched/broken Xperia Zs, and the G3 isn't due for a few months yet...
So between the Nexus 5 and the G2, I can't really see any downside in going for the latter. As much as I love my Nexus 4, and I prefer the design of the Nexus 5 to the G2, the effective cost to me is the same so I may as well have the bigger battery and better camera? I might lose fancy LG camera features by running AOSP/CM on it, but I'd be no better off with an N5 in that regard, anyway?
The new HTC one may be worth considering too.
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The new HTC one may be worth considering too.
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It's a possibility. I have been very fond of HTC devices in the past, so I'll forgive them for the POS that was the One X. However, I wouldn't buy one until I knew that S-Off was a certainty after that experience (although that appears to be a given on Qualcomm devices.) From what I've seen so far, the M8 is going to be another phone with a large physical outline, a huge bezel and a small-ish screen. For that reason, the current One really never appealed to me, especially when you put one alongside the G2 and realise it's almost the same size but with a notably smaller screen...
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You're a fan then? :laugh:
+1 G2 is the best for screen size I just wish it's speakers were front facing instead of on the bottom then it's be the perfect phone.
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+1 G2 is the best for screen size I just wish it's speakers were front facing instead of on the bottom then it's be the perfect phone.
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Haha. Well, at least it's not on the back. Of a completely flat-backed phone :silly: That and the camera are really the only thorns in the Nexus 4's side as far as I'm concerned
Actually, it'll be quite strange adapting to the normality of laying my phone on its back, rather than its front when placing it on a flat surface, as you have to with the Nexus 4 if you want to hear it ringing!
I would go with a nexus 5 its basicaly a fully unlocked g2 some people report bad battery life with the nexus 5 but flash a different ROM and it should have better battery life the g2 has good battery life but its stock software is a joke and not only that no recovery for the kk update maybe no root as well but nexus 5 is as easy to root as as it is to turn the phone on
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I would go with a nexus 5 its basicaly a fully unlocked g2 some people report bad battery life with the nexus 5 but flash a different ROM and it should have better battery life the g2 has good battery life but its stock software is a joke and not only that no recovery for the kk update maybe no root as well but nexus 5 is as easy to root as as it is to turn the phone on
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If I was going to keep it stock, I'd get a Nexus 5 no questions (but who here does that?!) But with both running CM/AOSP-derrived ROMs, I can't really see much downside to the G2 aside from the glossy plastic? As I understand it, there is a hack to install TWRP on the G2, and then I'm free as I would be on a 'real' Nexus.
Of course I'm a little bit worried about losing some functionality (e.g. the multi-shot night mode on the camera) but it's not like I'd get any of that with a Nexus 5 anyway...
i came from galaxys s4 and in my opinion the g2 is way better probably the best phone out today you can root kk just check forums its easy and i dont care what anyone says the battery on the nexus 5 is crap no matter what rom
Enough said.
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i came from galaxys s4 and in my opinion the g2 is way better probably the best phone out today you can root kk just check forums its easy and i dont care what anyone says the battery on the nexus 5 is crap no matter what rom
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I think that probably depends on your definition of crap. I've had over 5 hours of screen-on time out of my Nexus 4 and I never felt it's battery was inadequate (in fact, it's the best smartphone I've owned yet in that regard) and everything I've seen suggests the Nexus 5 manages the same or better. The appeal of the G2 for me comes from its extra battery capacity
I have both the N5 and G2 and I must say while the N5 looks pretty, the G2 does everything else better.
I'm talking battery life ,cool little features (if you like those) and the back buttons are actually awesome.
One thing about the N5 is it is a gamble when you get one. The screen may have very yellowish tint and the vibration motors suck really bad.
Imagine two swords making clashing sounds in a movie. That's how my Red 32GB N5 sounds. So I gave it to my wife...
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I have both the N5 and G2 and I must say while the N5 looks pretty, the G2 does everything else better.
I'm talking battery life ,cool little features (if you like those) and the back buttons are actually awesome.
One thing about the N5 is it is a gamble when you get one. The screen may have very yellowish tint and the vibration motors suck really bad.
Imagine two swords making clashing sounds in a movie. That's how my Red 32GB N5 sounds. So I gave it to my wife...
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Have to admit LG have gone beyond to make it so you don't need to use the buttons that much other than to adjust volume which they are in the perfect place, it's nice not having buttons you can press by mistake when putting it in your pocket something that happened a lot with my one x.
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I had the same dilemma, whether to get a G2 or a Nexus 5. Got the G2, it was my best decision ever made. Seriously, the G2 is the better choice here. It has bigger battery, better camera, better screen-to-size ratio, name it. The Nexus 5 isn't bad, but the LG G2 is the clear winner, at least for me. If you get it, you won't regret.
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I also have a question that will help me decide if I'll become a G2 owner. Basically I've narrowed my choices to the G2 and Note 3 out of the options out there. Both have their drawbacks and strong sides but this one topic is difficult to find info about - headphone sound quality while playing music.
One of the main purposes of my smartphones are to replace other portable music players and I like quality. I listen to Flacs or minimum 320 mp3s and this might be the decision maker for me. I've heard good things about the headphone sound quality in the Note 3 so how is the G2? Does anyone have experience of both to compare?
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I also have a question that will help me decide if I'll become a G2 owner. Basically I've narrowed my choices to the G2 and Note 3 out of the options out there. Both have their drawbacks and strong sides but this one topic is difficult to find info about - headphone sound quality while playing music.
One of the main purposes of my smartphones are to replace other portable music players and I like quality. I listen to Flacs or minimum 320 mp3s and this might be the decision maker for me. I've heard good things about the headphone sound quality in the Note 3 so how is the G2? Does anyone have experience of both to compare?
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The G2 comes with average earphones, but it offers software audio enhancements, including an equalizer with built-in presets. If you are really into music and want the best of quality, you should get third-party quality headphones, since those that come with the G2 won't blow your mind.
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If I was going to keep it stock, I'd get a Nexus 5 no questions (but who here does that?!) But with both running CM/AOSP-derrived ROMs, I can't really see much downside to the G2 aside from the glossy plastic? As I understand it, there is a hack to install TWRP on the G2, and then I'm free as I would be on a 'real' Nexus.
Of course I'm a little bit worried about losing some functionality (e.g. the multi-shot night mode on the camera) but it's not like I'd get any of that with a Nexus 5 anyway...
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CM/AOSP derived roms on the G2 are buggy. It's a fantastic device on stock based roms but if you prefare the 'google' look then I would say it's a no no.....IMHO
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akselic said:
I also have a question that will help me decide if I'll become a G2 owner. Basically I've narrowed my choices to the G2 and Note 3 out of the options out there. Both have their drawbacks and strong sides but this one topic is difficult to find info about - headphone sound quality while playing music.
One of the main purposes of my smartphones are to replace other portable music players and I like quality. I listen to Flacs or minimum 320 mp3s and this might be the decision maker for me. I've heard good things about the headphone sound quality in the Note 3 so how is the G2? Does anyone have experience of both to compare?
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I would suggest you look at the new HTC one. If it's anything like (or better than) the original HTC one, the native flac playback is awesome (with beats enhancements turned off of course )
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Well, my contract's up in a few days and my Mako is already earmarked for a new home (a friend who had her S4 stolen only a couple of weeks after getting it and is currently stuck using an HTC Desire running stock 2.2) and that means it's decision time (again.)
I'm fairly settled on a G2 (hence my post here) but I just wanted to see if anybody has any specific advice for/against. It seems like a bad time to be buying a new phone, with a round of new releases having just come up. However, I have zero interest in the S5 (I hate Samsung, although mainly for inflicting Exynos and its buggy drivers/kernels on the world, plus I ideally want a camera with OIS) and I'm very dubious of the Z2, knowing several people with badly scratched/broken Xperia Zs, and the G3 isn't due for a few months yet...
So between the Nexus 5 and the G2, I can't really see any downside in going for the latter. As much as I love my Nexus 4, and I prefer the design of the Nexus 5 to the G2, the effective cost to me is the same so I may as well have the bigger battery and better camera? I might lose fancy LG camera features by running AOSP/CM on it, but I'd be no better off with an N5 in that regard, anyway?
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I just got my G2 earlier today and so far I'm loving it. I too have a Nexus 4 and love the Google experience. I was looking into the N5 but the battery life really turned me off. The screen on the G2 is gorgeous and while I only have half a day under my belt, it already far surpasses the battery of my N4.
I was thinking of waiting for either the new HTC One or possibly the Xperia Z2, but with the G2 being really cheap at T-Mobile right now I didn't feel like waiting for the new devices and then paying north of $600 off contract. Also, the G2 is just as, or close to, as powerful as the new phones that are coming out this year so I feel very future proofed.
Just my two cents, good luck!
As many other people I was thoroughly dissapointed by todays Nexus release.
At the moment I am using a N5 but I smashed my screen so I am looking for a "new" device.
5" is the perfect size for me. No need to go bigger, also QHD is just a stupid waste of battery on a phone (imho)
There aren't too many devices around with good battery, 5" and 1080p so I am currently thinking about getting a G2.
Now I am used to Nexus roms with everything working and fast updates. How does the G2 fare?
I see quite a few roms out there but I also read quite a bit about random reboots, gps issues and so on.
Is the G2 a good phone to get if I am looking to flash roms. Has LG confirmed it will be getting Android M?
Im really at a loss for a phone that fits my bill. The only other phone I fancy atm is the Xperia Z5 Compact but its so friggin expensive.
So yeah.
G2 or not G2?
Thanks guys
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As many other people I was thoroughly dissapointed by todays Nexus release.
At the moment I am using a N5 but I smashed my screen so I am looking for a "new" device.
5" is the perfect size for me. No need to go bigger, also QHD is just a stupid waste of battery on a phone (imho)
There aren't too many devices around with good battery, 5" and 1080p so I am currently thinking about getting a G2.
Now I am used to Nexus roms with everything working and fast updates. How does the G2 fare?
I see quite a few roms out there but I also read quite a bit about random reboots, gps issues and so on.
Is the G2 a good phone to get if I am looking to flash roms. Has LG confirmed it will be getting Android M?
Im really at a loss for a phone that fits my bill. The only other phone I fancy atm is the Xperia Z5 Compact but its so friggin expensive.
So yeah.
G2 or not G2?
Thanks guys
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The g2 beats nexus 5 on every part, except updates. They take so long to release,
Yes, absolutely. It's insanely easy to root, battery life is fantastic, and there's a ton of developer support. I'm running RR right now and it's super fast with no issues. You can get a used one for around $100 and it's a bargain at that price.
IMHO, G2 is still the best. No reason to upgrade, especially now that we know the Nexus 5X sucks, haha. 100% yes, buy the G2. Marshmallow ROMs will be coming super fast...
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IMHO, G2 is still the best. No reason to upgrade, especially now that we know the Nexus 5X sucks, haha. 100% yes, buy the G2. Marshmallow ROMs will be coming super fast...
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But do the Roms generally have everything working? I remember back on my razr something was always broken because the source never really got released...
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But do the Roms generally have everything working? I remember back on my razr something was always broken because the source never really got released...
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usually everything works, but camera will never be as good as stock.
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usually everything works, but camera will never be as good as stock.
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Talking about the camera is the camera2 api supported?
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Talking about the camera is the camera2 api supported?
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No supporto for camera2 api AFAIK
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usually everything works, but camera will never be as good as stock.
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try using snap camera.. I can`t notice any difference between the pics taken on stock camera and this one. + low/no light pictures are way better using this app ( running latest slim saber )
The updates from LG were good when this device was released but are poor now if you want to go just stock.
Compared to the Nexus 5, the G2 running KK is about 70% of the speed but its rock solid with excellent battery life. For the money, I'd have to say its a bargain. :victory:
I noticed that development is became slow in this days... I think that g2 is near the end... Still a good phone, but the lack of camera2 api is a big problem for me...
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