[Q] Quick newby question about rooting - Nook Touch General

Hello, so im looking into rooting my nook simpletouch, i have found the nook manager thing, that looks simple enough to use, and i will use it to disable some b+n apps whilst also rooting.
ALL EDITED: okay so i found some information:
So i stll have questions, do you remove the image from the sd after you have used it, is it then available to use as storage?
Are both the regular nook and relaunch os running at the same time? does this mean that the battery life is shorter?
How can i get an app for pdf reading or something? do all the android apps work on the rooted nook?
How will i disable some b+n apps, is this via the nook manager?
Sorry that these are really quite nooby questions, i cant really find this information in a format which i fully understand (im really not so great at all this stuff).
Thanks for any help.

flobbadob said:
Hello, so im looking into rooting my nook simpletouch, i have found the nook manager thing, that looks simple enough to use, and i will use it to disable some b+n apps whilst also rooting.
ALL EDITED: okay so i found some information:
So i stll have questions, do you remove the image from the sd after you have used it, is it then available to use as storage?
Are both the regular nook and relaunch os running at the same time? does this mean that the battery life is shorter?
How can i get an app for pdf reading or something? do all the android apps work on the rooted nook?
How will i disable some b+n apps, is this via the nook manager?
Sorry that these are really quite nooby questions, i cant really find this information in a format which i fully understand (im really not so great at all this stuff).
Thanks for any help.
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1- yes. if you don't have backup on sd, format it with nook and use it.
2- you can use an app manager and kill unwanted processes.
3- all apps that support android 2.1 work on nook.
4- with total commander , root explorer or any similar file manager app. find app in system/app and add .dis to end of file name.

flobbadob said:
Hello, so im looking into rooting my nook simpletouch, i have found the nook manager thing, that looks simple enough to use, and i will use it to disable some b+n apps whilst also rooting.
ALL EDITED: okay so i found some information:
So i stll have questions, do you remove the image from the sd after you have used it, is it then available to use as storage?
Are both the regular nook and relaunch os running at the same time? does this mean that the battery life is shorter?
How can i get an app for pdf reading or something? do all the android apps work on the rooted nook?
How will i disable some b+n apps, is this via the nook manager?
Sorry that these are really quite nooby questions, i cant really find this information in a format which i fully understand (im really not so great at all this stuff).
Thanks for any help.
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Make sure you copy backup from Nookmanager to your PC first!
Easiest way to do this is to run nookmanager and connect usb to PC then copy the backup.tar.gz from the second drive.
Before you get rid of nookmanger from sd make sure you do the GAPPSattack bit at the bottom of the guide first.
After you have finished with nookmanager you will need to repartition/format. Easiest tool I have found for doing this is HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool which should be here I think.
If your sdcard is class 10 you might want to consider lower speed card for daily use or apply a patched kernel to address some problems.

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[Q] Android on Nook touch without root

Hi All, Is there any way to run a full android system without root the Nook? I mean is there a way to install the rooted android for nook on a SD card and run from android from there without root the nook? like the nook color dual boot.
Thanks
Best regards
Muadiv.
To add to this question, is there any way to install a 'better than native' pdf application and run it by default for pdf files without altering anything else?
I am quite content with the device, but i do wish it had more robust pdf support.
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Android systems requires applications to be installed before they can be run. Some Android devices such as cell-phones allow users to add a limited range of applications. However the Nook does not provide for user application installation, so to do get around this limitation requires 'rooting' the device.
beestee said:
To add to this question, is there any way to install a 'better than native' pdf application and run it by default for pdf files without altering anything else?
I am quite content with the device, but i do wish it had more robust pdf support.
Sent from my SCH-I800 using XDA App
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I have the same question
Muadiv said:
Hi All, Is there any way to run a full android system without root the Nook? I mean is there a way to install the rooted android for nook on a SD card and run from android from there without root the nook? like the nook color dual boot.
Thanks
Best regards
Muadiv.
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I'd say just root it. The nook's normal features remain, so you should be fine...
someone tried booting cyanogenmod7 off sd but it didn't work and needs more drivers. i think it's possible to dual boot but nobodies done it yet
dorino1 said:
I'd say just root it. The nook's normal features remain, so you should be fine...
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Yes, the NST "root" is nothing but a simple change to a config file and can easily be reversed.
jago25_98 said:
someone tried booting cyanogenmod7 off sd but it didn't work and needs more drivers. i think it's possible to dual boot but nobodies done it yet
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NST boots from mSD card first if a proper image is available there, which means you can do about anything you want. To put it another way, you can remove all the partitions on the internal storage of the NST and still it will run happily from a image on the mSD card.
CM7 is a beast, seen from the NST perspective, and yes it needs drivers (source is available) in order to work, but as I've said before, I cannot see what to gain from porting CM7 to NST.

[Q] Nook Color Apps vs Android Market Apps

I'm new to the Nook Color area of XDA, so I apologize in advance if my question is one that has been answered. I did search, but was not able to find an answer to my exact situation, so here it is:
I'm getting a NC as a gift for my family to use. I understand that the stock Rom for the NC allows you to access (what appears to me to be) B&N's version of the Market, with apps optimized for the NC. That sounds like a good thing, as it would seem like they would be the more stable versions (as they are built/tweaked specifically for the NC).
However, I'm familiar with (in general) the rooting/custom ROMs/overclocking concepts of an Android device, so I'm thinking I would like to put MIUI or CM7 on the device so that I can make it be the most powerful and useful device possible.
Here's my dilemma - I can't seem to find any posts that say whether the apps that a person can get from the B&N "market" will run (if transferred via ADB or Root Explorer, or whatever the NC equivalent may be) on a CM7/MIUI setup, or if it is just better to get the normal Market version of those apps.
For example: If I get Angry Birds in the B&N market, I would assume it's designed to run a certain way on the NC. If I download it from the Android Market, I would assume it's going to run differently. Is there any perceptible difference between the two?
I'm not entirely averse to staying with the stock ROM if the apps are heavily tied to (and perform better with) the stock setup. However, if it's not really going to matter whether they come from B&N or Google, I would prefer to be able to use a custom ROM and still be able to run (within reason) all the apps I'm used to using.
I guess that ultimately I can dual-boot if I find that the B&N app versions are superior, but having just dealt with a letdown from a Pandigital Novel, I'm wanting this experience to get off on the right foot. To me, the optimal situation would be a full install of a custom ROM, with either the optimized B&N apps running or equivalent Android Market apps running.
Thanks in advance for any advice/experiences anyone can offer.
I think it depends on whether or not the application requires anything that would be only in the B&N version of Android. I've used the Pandora application from the stock OS on CM7 and worked fine, but there may be some that won't. I haven't ran stock since about a week after getting mine.
Edit: I realized I rambled, so feel free to skip the long version below.
Short version: Not sure if you can ADB pull/push the paid B&N apps to another install, don't know how (if any) DRM works for that. While B&N apps are built specifically for the resolution, I find that they are very expensive (compared Angry Birds Seasons HD 99cents to B&N Angry Birds Seasons (HD) 3 dollars, and honestly I could not see a difference between the two) and if your Nook is not overclocked (which requires rooting), tend to be slow. There are some that are quite nice that I haven't found the equivalent of yet in Amazon App/Google Market such as Word Rainbow. You can find replacements/equivalents for most of the B&N apps in the other two stores I've mentioned. B&N sadly has a very small selection of apps that are actually any good, imo.
The native B&N reader app is far better than the Nook app (some functionality like enhanced children's books ONLY available on native app) and has not been, afaik, successfully ported.
Long, rambly, feel-free-to-ignore version pertaining more to ROMS than apps:
I've run unrooted stock, Manualnootered (rooted) stock, and various flavors of CM7.
- The native ereader app in stock has a very, very nice UI. Much better imo than the Kindle's. I still have to find a good replacement for it. It is also the only way, AFAIK, that you can read those enhanced children's books that lets you record your voice, or that has animations/reads to the viewer. If this is important to you, then stick to unrooted or rooted stock.
- Unrooted stock is so slow, that after having used overclocked rooted stock and CM7, I cannot bring myself to use it again. Even page turns were slow. App loading times are abysmal, and live wallpaper will not only eat your battery but cause everything else to slow down.
- Manualnootered stock is quite nice because you get to install 3rd party apps, have access to not only B&N's own store but also Google Market and Amazon App Store if you install them. You can also overclock so it's a much faster experience (highly recommended).
*Drawbacks are that there are some bugs that you may run into: Update issues with Adobe products, which cause boot loops (there's a fix for it). Not all apps may appear in Google Market (several things you can try to fix). And finally, if there's an OTA (over the air) update to the next (1.4, assuming you manualnooter to the latest 1.3 update), it will break your root/nootering and you will have to do it all over again.
- Installing a Cyanogenmod ROM: You get Gingerbread instead of Froyo (2.3.x vs 2.2.x), lots of goodies too many to list. With Tablet Tweaks (built in) and Nook Color Tools, you can tweak the bleep out of your Nook Color in terms of performance. You won't have to worry about OTA updates or the boot loop issue, but you do run into issues such as: "Your device is not compatible" messages when you try to install certain apps from Google Market (there are workarounds for most of them), SOD (Screen of Death, supposedly fixed with latest dalingrin kernel update), wifi issues (disconnect, difficulty connecting, etc.), force closes of random processes if using a nightly build. You could go with the stable build, but honestly the improvements in the nightly builds far outweigh the bugs which get ironed out pretty quickly.
The best part is, you don't even have to install just one of these. If you want, you can either a) dual boot stock + custom rom from EMMC (native Nook Color space), b) boot custom rom from SD install and keep unrooted stock to avoid voiding your warranty if you're concerned about that c) mix and match dual booting etc. It is pretty much impossible to brick your Nook Color.
After several months I've found that I prefer using CM7 builds simply because they are so much more customizable than rooted stock. I would suggest trying out both (stock, rooted or not, + CM7) via the SD card install + stock EMMC if you're not leaning towards one or the other.
Thank you. That was a very clear, concise, and complete answer to my question (and a good excuse for me to use some alliteration).
As I'm not really interested in the eReader functionality of the device, I'm guessing a Manualnootered/CM7(or MIUI) configuration is where I"ll go, at least until I'm sure what will work better for me.
Don't be surprised if you see me popping up in here again, asking more questions.
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm finding myself in a similar situation again.
I've downloaded and successfully been able to run CM7.2 from an SD card, and I've been really impressed with how much faster it makes the Nook run. I'm wanting to push this over to the internal storage so that my family can enjoy the faster performance with all of their stuff on it (I've tested and been able to make a Titanium Backup of a Nook app, which restored correctly in the CM7.2 SD image).
There's one hangup, though - I can't figure out how (if it's possible) to get the stock Nook reader app to work on the CM7.2 image. This wouldn't really be a problem except that I have some "read to me" books that I've paid for that absolutely have to be available on whatever is on the device.
I've looked at this thread in the Tablet section, which has a package that can "re-bloat" the device with the stock reader.
I'd like to do something similar, and I think I have the files needed to do this, but I can't figure out how to push them into the image on the SD card.
-When I open the SD card from my computer, I see all the non-expanded files (e.g. MLO, uRamdisk, uImage, etc.), but no standard Android root directory setup.
-If I attach it to my computer when CM is running, I can see the storage, but not the root directory.
-If I use a root file explorer, I can see the root directory, but I can't mount it as read/write.
-If I use ADB, I can't mount the image as read/write, and adb push fails because it's not read-write.
I'd really like to try and get this working, as I'm not feeling comfortable with messing with the internal setup just yet (I don't want to break something that is working), but I'm guessing I'm hitting a wall because the SD card method is running in some sort of virtualized environment.
Anyone have any suggestions?
jmtheiss said:
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm finding myself in a similar situation again.
I've downloaded and successfully been able to run CM7.2 from an SD card, and I've been really impressed with how much faster it makes the Nook run. I'm wanting to push this over to the internal storage so that my family can enjoy the faster performance with all of their stuff on it (I've tested and been able to make a Titanium Backup of a Nook app, which restored correctly in the CM7.2 SD image).
There's one hangup, though - I can't figure out how (if it's possible) to get the stock Nook reader app to work on the CM7.2 image. This wouldn't really be a problem except that I have some "read to me" books that I've paid for that absolutely have to be available on whatever is on the device.
I've looked at this thread in the Tablet section, which has a package that can "re-bloat" the device with the stock reader.
I'd like to do something similar, and I think I have the files needed to do this, but I can't figure out how to push them into the image on the SD card.
-When I open the SD card from my computer, I see all the non-expanded files (e.g. MLO, uRamdisk, uImage, etc.), but no standard Android root directory setup.
-If I attach it to my computer when CM is running, I can see the storage, but not the root directory.
-If I use a root file explorer, I can see the root directory, but I can't mount it as read/write.
-If I use ADB, I can't mount the image as read/write, and adb push fails because it's not read-write.
I'd really like to try and get this working, as I'm not feeling comfortable with messing with the internal setup just yet (I don't want to break something that is working), but I'm guessing I'm hitting a wall because the SD card method is running in some sort of virtualized environment.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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First off, if you want to keep the kid's books, you have to keep stock on internal memory. It is the only way they can run. They won't work on CM. That rebloat pack is just to put the stock nook reader back on stock.
When you put the SD card in the PC it is normal that it sees only the boot partition of the SD.
When you connect your nook to the PC with the USB cable, the PC can only see the internal media partition (emmc) and partition 4 of the SD (sdcard).
Root Explorer will let you read/write if you touch the toggle button at the top of it's screen.
With adb, what are you trying to mount?
Thanks for the reply.
I'm using ES File explorer, which I know works to give me the read/write capabilities, but after mounting /system (and/or /system/app) as read-write, I was not able to write files into because it said that it was not read-write.
With ADB, I was trying to mount either /system or /system/app as rewritable, but I couldn't get it to take.
That's a bummer about the kid's books thing. I was hoping I could use a better rom to get the performance up. Just because I'm curious, what is the issue that keeps the reader from working with the CM roms? Is it some sort of signature problem that B&N checks when you sign in with the reader app?
jmtheiss said:
That's a bummer about the kid's books thing. I was hoping I could use a better rom to get the performance up. Just because I'm curious, what is the issue that keeps the reader from working with the CM roms? Is it some sort of signature problem that B&N checks when you sign in with the reader app?
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The problem with the kids books is they are not really books. They are interactive applications that the stock reader can access. That is how the books are smart and know how to respond to the kids touches.
And people have tried to take the stock reader and install it on CM, but it will not run.
I assume you are running ES Explorer from CM. CM is already rooted so it should work. I have used ES Explorer a little and it seems to me it had a setting that turned on root access for it.
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The problem with the kids books is they are not really books. They are interactive applications that the stock reader can access. That is how the books are smart and know how to respond to the kids touches.
And people have tried to take the stock reader and install it on CM, but it will not run.
I assume you are running ES Explorer from CM. CM is already rooted so it should work. I have used ES Explorer a little and it seems to me it had a setting that turned on root access for it.
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Alright. Thanks, that makes a lot more sense.

[Q] Just got My nook ST shipped to my home... :)

got my nook yesterday, registered,and ready to go...
the e-ink is really good on my eyes and i'm lovin it...
now to what i'm here for..
as everyone i want to hack my nst for a better e reading experience, a li'l browsing, a few gud themes and a few games.
i want some help in doing it. i could have gone through the forums but there being many, it really is a bit hard to choose the right one and in right order. i would like anyone of you to share the links in order of it supposed to be done, i.e. backing up my default files and then to hacking etc. a video tutorial link would be more appreciated. As i have some of my books scanned, suggest a reader to read scanned pdfs after hacking...
and of course i'm not a regular hacker,except that i have hacked my psp once so no problem getting along with the instructions...
Expecting a few gud responses, thanQ
harunaku
TouchNooterwill take care of the rooting. Do a backup before you do anything else.
bobstro said:
TouchNooterwill take care of the rooting. Do a backup before you do anything else.
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k,thanks a lot. I rooted my nook successfully
Now to make backup of my factory files, I tried the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142983 which guides me to backup my files. but the noogie.img link does not have any download in that thread. what really is noogie and please give me an alternate link to noogie.img.
thanks
harunaku
You need to follow the redirect link on NookDevs. The page has been moved. noogie.img is available from that page.
thanks again, i'm done with backing up too.
now, i couldn't find a way to install the first app in the nook memory. of course u can use file manager, but there's no file manager preinstalled, is there? how to get to that apk file?
harunaku said:
thanks again, i'm done with backing up too.
now, i couldn't find a way to install the first app in the nook memory. of course u can use file manager, but there's no file manager preinstalled, is there? how to get to that apk file?
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Wait... are you trying to do the manual rooting process? There are automated rooters. Noogie is used to backup and root manually (if you want to).
harunaku said:
[...] now, i couldn't find a way to install the first app in the nook memory. of course u can use file manager, but there's no file manager preinstalled, is there? how to get to that apk file?
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Assuming you used the latest TouchNooter, Super Manager should work. I think SM is new from the version of TN that I last used.
Or, once Market is working, download your favorite.
bobstro said:
Assuming you used the latest TouchNooter, Super Manager should work. I think SM is new from the version of TN that I last used.
Or, once Market is working, download your favorite.
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my doubts dont seem to be ending any soon....
-i'm done with everything, even market's working. but i couldn't search in market. when i type in search box and enter - no response...
-i managed to find 'file manager'' in top free app list and installed it. now when i try to install the apks in micro sd card, it says 'for security,ur phone is set to block non android sourced apps',though i checked 'allow non market apps' in nook color tools. suggest me a way to install the apps in card.
-the market shows the apps with $ pricing, how to make it regional?
-sometimes while swiping to scroll, the page goes to the end all the way...
-after rooting the wifi is disconnecting frequently
thanks in advance...
harunaku said:
[...] -i'm done with everything, even market's working. but i couldn't search in market. when i type in search box and enter - no response...
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That seems to be a problem some people have and others don't. What version of the B&N firmware are you running?
-i managed to find 'file manager'' in top free app list and installed it. now when i try to install the apks in micro sd card, it says 'for security,ur phone is set to block non android sourced apps',though i checked 'allow non market apps' in nook color tools. suggest me a way to install the apps in card.
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Sounds like you need to allow 3rd party apps. Launch NookColor Tools, then toggle the Allow Non-Market Apps settings off and back on. Then try again.
[...] -the market shows the apps with $ pricing, how to make it regional?
-sometimes while swiping to scroll, the page goes to the end all the way...
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Those aren't really rooting issues.
-after rooting the wifi is disconnecting frequently
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This may be related to the B&N firmware version you're running. Apparently, the NST v1.1.0 has known problems with some 802.11n networks, WPA2 settings and various other random wifi issues. I don't believe TN touches wifi, so it shouldn't have changed.
would you say go ahead, if i say i'm gonna restore the factory settings with the backup and root again?
and yes, i rooted with the latest touchnooter (the link u posted)

[Guide] Before trying to root NST/NSTG Backup first! Read this.

Suddenly increase of the people trying to root their devices recently.
Something goes wrong and either they have no backup or its damaged and then they have a lot of trouble.
So I'd thought a list a couple of things that you should do BEFORE you try to do anything else to your Nook Simple Touch or Nook Simple Touch Glow aka NST/NSTG
Now I strongly suggest making two backups in different manners detailed below. I personally do this before I even use my NST for first time.
NookManager:
Nookmanager has a great backup tool however it does save it directly onto the sdcard which if is not big enough or has other errors or you simply end up deleting by accident.
Pros: Convenient backup and restore. No need for PC. ADB over wireless to copy backup.
Cons: Must remember to copy off sdcard, at mercy of sdcard failing.
Noogie:
Noogie allows the NST/NSTG partitions to be completely accessible by a PC over a usb cable.
You then use a tool on the PC to backup all the partitions to a file.
Pros: Your backup is stored independent of your sdcard. A bit more verbose by default.
Cons: If your usb cable is dodgy or usb bus errors can be introduced.
Both systems have good points and bad points doing both means if one is not quite right you have an alternative. Its worth doing both.
A complete image of a NST/NSTG is around 1.86GB in size however after compression should be around 280MB.
Now to the details.
I would do Noogie first as you can then use the same sdcard to stick nookmanager on that you may want to do the root with (after backing up correctly).
Some of my nook's usb cables were charge only ones (very handy) so if cable is thin with too cores and long use a different cable.
I would try and avoid using class 10 sdcards for this process.
Noogie
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If you use windows use this guide
The same method you stick noogie img onto sdcard you can use to stick nookmanager as well.
After the backup check your event viewer [Start->settings->Control Panel->Administration Tools->Event Viewer->System].
Look for any error Red or yellow warning about disks.
Windows does not pop up something when your having serious disk errors (even to their latest version!)
Remember to "safety remove the hardware" before unplugging the NST.
You will end up with a 1.86GB image file I would suggest compressing it using rar/zip to get to a manageable size plus add some CRC checking.
If you use Linux use this one.
If you linux newbie be very very very careful with the dd command. Its very powerful and a simple typo can ruin your computer.
Make sure nothing is mounted during the process.
Run dmesg or sudo tail /var/log/kern.log to see if any usb or disk errors.
NookManager
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Read the Guide
You can use winimage mention in noogie guide to stick Nookmanager on a sdcard too.
When booting off Nookmanager say no to wifi, Rescue->Backup, Use rest of space on SD card, create backup.
Obviously make sure your device is well charged and choose a big enough sd card to hold the backup. Its about 280MB compressed.
Once backup is complete we want to get it onto our PC or something other than a single sdcard which are prone to sudden failure.
Nookmanager has stored the backup on a second partition on the sdcard.
Windows does not like mounting second partitions on removable devices by default so we can't easily be able to access it.
If you can either enable wireless and usb adb to copy which I won't go into now or connect your nook via usb while running nookmanager and it will appear as a mass storage device.
You are looking for a file called "backup.full.gz". Copy that as well as its md5. Make sure you check the size is around 280ishMB.
If you have already connect the stock nook over usb or used noogie over usb to your PC sometimes it will get confused and the drives won't appear in windows explorer.
This is windows getting confused. If you click on the safetly remove device icon you will see two drive letters are assigned its just explorer that can't access them. Easy fix is to reboot. If your like me and dozens of web browsing windows open and regard rebooting as something the power company forces on me few times a year you can do this to access.
Start->settings->Control Panel->Administration Tools->Computer Management->Disk Manager.
You will see the drive letters for your nook there. Right click (don't click format or delete!) and chose open. Explorer will now happily open a window with your drive contents.
Again as with Noogie check your event viewer system for any errors. (make sure hit F5 for refresh)
On linux you can mount the second partition no trouble so either remove sdcard and stick in a reader or use nook via usb cable. Mount and copy. Check size of file. I am sure if using linux and have mastered dd you know how.
So now you should have two full backups using different methods.
Now go forth and root, tinker and learn about with your NST/NSTG to your hearts content knowing you can safely recover.
Personally I like Version 1.2.X Nookmanager as a root method but I was also recommend if you have more than one NST trying out all of kuskro's hardwork on 1.1.X and excellent guides starting here (never tried on NSTG however)
Getting your SDcard back to normal
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After rooting/backing up if you want to put your sdcard back to normal for storage you can't just simply format as the card has been repartitioned.
Easiest tool I have found for doing this is HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool which should be here I think.
Simple to use just select sdcard and hit format. It will automatically repartition and format to the maximum size of your card.
Hi i just had a quick question about the rooting,
When i have rooted, will there be a file manager already on there? so i can download any apk's i want, transfer onto micro sd and then install them? Is this going to be possible?
I ask because i dont particularly want all of the google apps which come in the package thing, and the installation of them seems slightly awkward, main part about it is that wont the imaged nook manager micro sd not have space for more files? but it tells you to put extra files on there.
I havent started the rooted yet but will be in a bit.
Thanks anyway.
flobbadob said:
Hi i just had a quick question about the rooting,
When i have rooted, will there be a file manager already on there? so i can download any apk's i want, transfer onto micro sd and then install them? Is this going to be possible?
I ask because i dont particularly want all of the google apps which come in the package thing, and the installation of them seems slightly awkward, main part about it is that wont the imaged nook manager micro sd not have space for more files? but it tells you to put extra files on there.
I havent started the rooted yet but will be in a bit.
Thanks anyway.
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If your using nookmanager then the launcher relaunch that comes with is a filemanager. Touchnooter has something too. You don't have to install gapps and can sideload if you want. A lot of apps need a /sdcard so I would recommend having one for storage. Not sure if you need gapps for licensing etc for paid apps. You can use adb over wifi to install apps from a PC ie a filemanager like esfileexplorer if you did not have one available. I would ask your questions regarding any specific root method in their relevant thread....
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If your using nookmanager then the launcher relaunch that comes with is a filemanager. Touchnooter has something too. You don't have to install gapps and can sideload if you want. A lot of apps need a /sdcard so I would recommend having one for storage. Not sure if you need gapps for licensing etc for paid apps. You can use adb over wifi to install apps from a PC ie a filemanager like esfileexplorer if you did not have one available. I would ask your questions regarding any specific root method in their relevant thread....
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okay ,sorry about wrong thread and whatnot, thank you though!
i think i get the gist of everything now anyway, im very new to all this lol. ill probably just install the gapps anyway now for mail and calendar.
Also just a general question, is battery life decreased at all after rooting? or was the android running all the time even before root and now i can just use it (if that makes sense)
flobbadob said:
okay ,sorry about wrong thread and whatnot, thank you though!
i think i get the gist of everything now anyway, im very new to all this lol. ill probably just install the gapps anyway now for mail and calendar.
Also just a general question, is battery life decreased at all after rooting? or was the android running all the time even before root and now i can just use it (if that makes sense)
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Battery life initially perhaps. Your adding gapps running in background. Phone.apk, Music.apk, TelephonyProvider.apk gets installed where it does not need to be.
Joy of rooting is you can uninstall or disable what you don't want. Longterm with some tweaks you extended it a lot. Remember to let screen timeout rather than using power button when to lock screen.
If you don't want B&N stuff just your own ereading system and don't want some gapps disable/freeze all this:
FfileDownloadService.apk,AccountAndSyncSettin gs.apk, AirRuntime.apk, ApplicationsProvider.apk, BnAuthenticationService.apk, BnCloudRequestSvc.apk, ContactsProvider.apk, CrytoServer.apk, DemoMode.apk, DeviceManager.apk, DeviceRegistrator.apk, GlobalSearch.apk, gtalkservice.apk, Home.apk, Library.apk, Music.apk, NookCommunity.apk, Phone.apk, QuickStartActivity.apk, Shop.apk, Social.apk, SysChecksum.apk, Talk.apk, TalkProvider.apk, TelephonyProvider.apk, WaveformDownloader.apk
Crispy3000 said:
Battery life initially perhaps. Your adding gapps running in background. Phone.apk, Music.apk, TelephonyProvider.apk gets installed where it does not need to be.
Joy of rooting is you can uninstall or disable what you don't want. Longterm with some tweaks you extended it a lot. Remember to let screen timeout rather than using power button when to lock screen.
If you don't want B&N stuff just your own ereading system and don't want some gapps disable/freeze all this:
FfileDownloadService.apk,AccountAndSyncSettin gs.apk, AirRuntime.apk, ApplicationsProvider.apk, BnAuthenticationService.apk, BnCloudRequestSvc.apk, ContactsProvider.apk, CrytoServer.apk, DemoMode.apk, DeviceManager.apk, DeviceRegistrator.apk, GlobalSearch.apk, gtalkservice.apk, Home.apk, Library.apk, Music.apk, NookCommunity.apk, Phone.apk, QuickStartActivity.apk, Shop.apk, Social.apk, SysChecksum.apk, Talk.apk, TalkProvider.apk, TelephonyProvider.apk, WaveformDownloader.apk
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quick question, ive gone and deleted a lot of those apps, not sure if this was caused by that (doubt it) but:
when i go on the quicklaunch and click library, it goes to the relaunch page, not my nook library, any idea whats up
flobbadob said:
quick question, ive gone and deleted a lot of those apps, not sure if this was caused by that (doubt it) but:
when i go on the quicklaunch and click library, it goes to the relaunch page, not my nook library, any idea whats up
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You should read closer before doing.
If you don't want B&N stuff
A lot of those in the list are for B&N stuff like the library. ie. Library.apk. If you want B&N Apps undo what you have done. Good job you have a backup :silly: One of the reasons I said disable/freeze as well as uninstall. If you are not using an app to disable/freeze (like titainium backup) then you can simply rename them with a root enabled filemanager. e.g. library.apk to library.apk_disabled
Search around for details on what to disable and what they do to see if you want them or not. Don't deregister the nook with B&N apps disabled.
Crispy3000 said:
You should read closer before doing.
If you don't want B&N stuff
A lot of those in the list are for B&N stuff like the library. ie. Library.apk. If you want B&N Apps undo what you have done. Good job you have a backup :silly: One of the reasons I said disable/freeze as well as uninstall. If you are not using an app to disable/freeze (like titainium backup) then you can simply rename them with a root enabled filemanager. e.g. library.apk to library.apk_disabled
Search around for details on what to disable and what they do to see if you want them or not. Don't deregister the nook with B&N apps disabled.
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yeah, turns out i did delete the library apk when ishouldnt have, but it turns out that i can just use the file browser which is the homepage for relaunch to access epub files (which open up in the reader) so the library app thing is kinda redundant.
EDIT: everything is fine now, i got a new library app and somehow deleted the keyboard which im getting back now lol

Nook Noob questions

Hi anyone
Please help me with my questions below, I picked up a Nook for predominantly reading only but wanted one or two apps to be installed from play store.
1. How to sideload books onto the Nook simple touch. I have loads of PDF on my hard drive and epub books. For this do I need to root at all?
2. I see that the rooting solutions on youtube all show 'android market' instead of 'Play store' - but also see these videos are several years old. So are there any new ways to root and get 'play store'.
3. How to sideload APKs not from Play store?
4. I am mainly looking to use Bible app like Quick Bible from the Play Store if not I would have to go and find the APK to side load it.
5. If something goes wrong can I get back to the factory setting of original Nook.
I like in some of the videos that the rooting still retained the original Nook screens and additionally there were options to go and select the apps from the side. Is this how all the rooted Nooks work?
Please suggest a more recent easier thread that can support all of my above queries.
thanks
S
sany said:
1. How to sideload books onto the Nook simple touch. I have loads of PDF on my hard drive and epub books. For this do I need to root at all?
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No. You can copy epubs and PDFs directly onto the NST internal memory or onto an installed SD card.
2. I see that the rooting solutions on youtube all show 'android market' instead of 'Play store' - but also see these videos are several years old. So are there any new ways to root and get 'play store'.
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You are correct in that those are all out-of-date. No PlayStore access via Google Apps since 2017. Google apps themselves are available only in a limited form. See the post on updating NTGAppsAttack. The Yalp Store app, however, can access the PlayStore without Google Apps and can be installed by NookManager (see the post on updating NookManager)
3. How to sideload APKs not from Play store?
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Copy the apk files from your PC to the NST via USB and install via a file manager, or install via ADB.
4. I am mainly looking to use Bible app like Quick Bible from the Play Store if not I would have to go and find the APK to side load it.
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Yes, that part is always interesting. Not many apps in the PlayStore work for Android 2.1 and even those that theoretically do sometimes decline to run on the NST. I've seen mention of Bible apps on the forum so your best bet may be to search for that and see what worked for others.
5. If something goes wrong can I get back to the factory setting of original Nook.
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Yes, unless you wipe out the factory recovery (not recommended by me).
I like in some of the videos that the rooting still retained the original Nook screens and additionally there were options to go and select the apps from the side. Is this how all the rooted Nooks work?
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Sort of. NookManager is not very invasive and you can--to some extent--tailor the few apps it installs to suit your wants. After that, it's sort of up to you. Some people want to wipe out all the B&N stuff (not my choice), others not so much. Depends on how you use your device--and that can evolve.
Please suggest a more recent easier thread that can support all of my above queries.
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Seems like you just started one.
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Yes, unless you wipe out the factory recovery (not recommended by me).
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Hi Thanks.
Just another clarification. So after I install Nook Manager - irrespective of whether I make a backup or not, by default there will be a factory recovery already in the device, correct?
I read somewhere in the thread that we make a backup and keep the SD card saved in a safe place additionally to saving the backup image as an additional backup. Can you please explain this further.
Say for example, I use the SD card image to install nook manager - do i use the same card as is to create a backup? Sorry I am asking for too many information!
thanks again
S
sany said:
Hi Thanks.
Just another clarification. So after I install Nook Manager - irrespective of whether I make a backup or not, by default there will be a factory recovery already in the device, correct?
I read somewhere in the thread that we make a backup and keep the SD card saved in a safe place additionally to saving the backup image as an additional backup. Can you please explain this further.
Say for example, I use the SD card image to install nook manager - do i use the same card as is to create a backup? Sorry I am asking for too many information!
thanks again
S
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Unless you intentionally replace or delete the factory recovery image, you can return to an out-of-the-box state by powering down, then powering up and holding the two lower hardware buttons at the first sign of the "your Nook is starting up" screen until a screen prompt appears. In fact, it would probably be a good idea to do that when you first get the device. You never know what has been done to it by the previous owner.
NookManager is a utility, not an installation. It resides on the SD card you prepare and can be used, as you say, to make backups of "work-in-progress" as well as an out-of-the-box backup, if you wish. The backups are stored by default on the NookManager SD card itself, but there is only provision for one. A new one will overwrite the old one. If you want to keep a few backups as you make changes to your NST, you can copy the backups to your PC if you connect your NST with the USB cable while NookManager is running. This condition makes the otherwise invisible backup partition on the card visible to your PC.
Thank you!
S

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