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WTF with the ram

i can only open about 3-4 app before my ram is full and its forcing to closing app . seriously ? wtf is this .
i feel like this phone is worse than n95 .
if i open a web page one youtube link and i still have in memory my message app it will start closing app and sometime it even close the Touch wiz widget so they have to re appear and load for 4 second . i cant believe they only putted 1gb of ram with all there touchwiz bloarware.

Ram issues
Check what apps are running on the background, i would check primarily things you log into that are always logged in like FB, Gtalk, Skype. although even with all those running you shouldnt have issues, maybe try doing a cache and dalvik cache wipe reboot and check changes.
MY BEST FIX is rooting, flashing an AOSP based rom that normally for me they use 350 to 400mb on a normal basis instead of 550-600mb in a sammy based rom.

mine is usally 800-1g and im constantly clearing memory. I dont get it either.

1slow4G said:
mine is usally 800-1g and im constantly clearing memory. I dont get it either.
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S3 has a horrible memory management.
1 gb ram ain't enough for the beast.
Launcher redraw on a Top end phone is an Epic fail.

Selina40Kyle said:
S3 has a horrible memory management.
1 gb ram ain't enough for the beast.
Launcher redraw on a Top end phone is an Epic fail.
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I agree, I just opened every app i have and went up to 1.26gb.. and when i have no apps open it jumps from 800-1gb on its own.. so i guess its all in the system that takes up most of the space

Selina40Kyle said:
S3 has a horrible memory management.
1 gb ram ain't enough for the beast.
Launcher redraw on a Top end phone is an Epic fail.
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Jeez 1gb is more than enough

Problem is with the Samsung bloatware. Kies, Remote Controls and all those other services. Delete kiesexe and freeze the Samsung crap inc SVoice..
I see no need to sync to Samsung and Google. The Google services are enough.. The Samsung store is only worth unfreezing for those free offers. The four tracking services ain't needed etc I use Avast to do that etc.
Getting 285M free apx after bootup, same as ICS, on 4.1.2 now. 12 widgets, FB, G+, Fancy widgets, Jorte etc
Also make sure not to run supercharger. It kills multitasking!

Disable all the Bloatware or freeze it using link2sd.
(all share, talk back, s-voice)
Still sitting between 540mb and 630mb maximum
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Kojaes
My 2gb i747m really makes use of the extra ram. It not only can handle 50 background apps with stock rom as apposed to 15-20 for the 1gb version (assuming there is enough ram), but it will boot with about 1.6-1.7gb available, about 700mb used, and 1gb free, and will use memory up to about 200mb free before killing apps to make room for new apps. Bottom line, it multitasks like a S.O.B. My opinion based on 2.5 years Android experience...is that 2gb ram helps big time...especially if you do not optimize your system.
If I had the 1gb version, I would consider a lighter rom as some have mentioned, but also the V6 Supercharger app with specific settings to allow maximum multitasking while remaining stable...which might take some experimenting. I would install Titanium Backup Pro and freeze as many non needed apps to prevent them from loading at boot and using up precious ram. Also, for some apps, I use AutoRuns to prevent them from loading at boot time.
Also remember...that some apps will stay in RAM when it's plentiful. But other apps are programed to allow Android to kill them after a certain length of idle time when they haven't been used.

Ram management is fine on the S3.
If you are not happy with it use a task killer, custom rom/kernel and/or supercharger v6 script.
Also if your ram<100 then you should start making complaints.
My free ram is at 120mb-160mb and i'm happy,no lags,no slowdowns,nothing at all.
Android preloads apps in memmory in order to open faster when we launch them.
Free ram really is wasted ram...it cancels multitasking and if you've bough a 600$ phone and can't multitask with it then you're worth of your fate.

nfsmw_gr said:
Ram management is fine on the S3.
If you are not happy with it use a task killer, custom rom/kernel and/or supercharger v6 script.
Also if your ram<100 then you should start making complaints.
My free ram is at 120mb-160mb and i'm happy,no lags,no slowdowns,nothing at all.
Android preloads apps in memmory in order to open faster when we launch them.
Free ram really is wasted ram...it cancels multitasking and if you've bough a 600$ phone and can't multitask with it then you're worth of your fate.
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The fact that an user has to get task killer and manage memory by him own: FAIL!
I know android pre loads stuff in memory, but it got the priority all wrong.
Why does it keep killing msging, phone and the GODDAMN launcher .
While it never kils the stupid stuff like "Google Book mark Sync", unless you freeze it.
There's no denying that 1gb has crippled S3 badly.
You can claim "Free ram is wasted ram" and throw down links, but at the end of the day it is giving me a bad experience.
Case in point:
1) Launcher Redraw:
Two points to it:
->Bad priority (I'm not sure if it's either a Samsung fault or Android; OOM 6 isn't the way to go).
-> Less ram.
The fact that browsing through play store for 15 mins and then hitting Home button results in launcher redraw is pathetic.
Less ram is the culprit( atleast one of the).
On such an expensive device this is just EPIC FAIL.
Sure we can do Super recharge and try removing the bloatware, but these are quick fixes and doesn't get rid of the main problem.
Not to mention not every one finds all this stuff easy.
The fact that you have to do tweaking on the 'supposedly greatest android phone' to make it work smoothly is an EPIC FAIL.
Custom Roms for an device as expensive as S3, should be there to enhance functionality and increase features. Not to make it works the way it should have out of the box.
2) Sh**ty Multitasking:
Trust me, my iPod touch does better multi tasking that S3 for day to day experience. (I am not an apple troll, btw)
And it doesn't even have a true multitasking and the specs are no where near S3.
When I pause a game, and resume it after an hour it starts from exactly same place . Try that with S3.
Try to use your phone when many apps are getting updated and notification bar is constantly changing.
It'll lag the hell out.
There's no defending to these points.
This is where Apple excels , by giving user everything perfect from out of the box.
Sure you can't do much, but what ever you can, you do it smoothly.
What makes me sad is that Samsung is so close to it, yet they screwed the experience.
And I'm not even going to talk about Contacts and Phone apps.

nfsmw_gr said:
Ram management is fine on the S3.
If you are not happy with it use a task killer, custom rom/kernel and/or supercharger v6 script.
Also if your ram<100 then you should start making complaints.
My free ram is at 120mb-160mb and i'm happy,no lags,no slowdowns,nothing at all.
Android preloads apps in memmory in order to open faster when we launch them.
Free ram really is wasted ram...it cancels multitasking and if you've bough a 600$ phone and can't multitask with it then you're worth of your fate.
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Sorry but this is complete and utter drivel. Stop quoting websites and Google and start wising up.
If you have a game that needs to run and it uses 100mb and the phone has no free ram it kills something else.
This would be fine if the phone loaded the apps quickly but it doesn't.
Custom ROMs do not fix the lack of ram and neither do any of the memory management scripts.
My phone has around 200mb to 300mb though and it still loads and reloads phone and messaging and browser randomly.
Sgs3 is useless at memory management and anyone who says otherwise is living in a dreamland.
No lags and slowdowns is just blatantly not true as your messaging app and phone app will frequently take up to two seconds to load if you are using any Samsung ROM.

biffsmash said:
Sorry but this is complete and utter drivel. Stop quoting websites and Google and start wising up.
If you have a game that needs to run and it uses 100mb and the phone has no free ram it kills something else.
This would be fine if the phone loaded the apps quickly but it doesn't.
Custom ROMs do not fix the lack of ram and neither do any of the memory management scripts.
My phone has around 200mb to 300mb though and it still loads and reloads phone and messaging and browser randomly.
Sgs3 is useless at memory management and anyone who says otherwise is living in a dreamland.
No lags and slowdowns is just blatantly not true as your messaging app and phone app will frequently take up to two seconds to load if you are using any Samsung ROM.
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True that.
I have no idea what is stored for 500-600Mb ram if not the important things like Phone, Msg and Launcher.
Useless stuff.

It is just marketing and business politics, Samsung knew that 1GB is not at all future proof but that is exactly what they need so they can sell the Note 2 and the i9305.
And still they sold over 30M i9300 devices.
eggman89 said:
True that.
I have no idea what is stored for 500-600Mb ram if not the important things like Phone, Msg and Launcher.
Useless stuff.
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Man, Android loads that stuff itself based on usage, OOM settings and Minfree values. The other stuff is services that need to run full time so that Kies sync, Location and other Samsung bloat that is really not doing anything most of the time.

Ya I know.
I wonder how can the most important thing, launcher, has an OOM of 6.
Stupid really.
Is it a fault of Android or Samsung messed it up.
In all the galaxy nexus videos I've never seen launcher redraws.
So maybe Samsung messed up for whatever reason.
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"Free ram is wasted ram"
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that remark has been misused greatly by people that can't code for ass and fail at memory optimisation.
It was originally in reference to the Superfetch feature in Vista/7 storing frequently accessed data in ram for faster application startup. It wasn't meant to be applied to applications that use huge amounts of memory for no good reason.
much of Androids poor memory management is Java related, who knows, maybe Google will get a clue and dump the Dalvik VM eventually for a native operating system.

Use aokp or cm 10
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Diaze said:
Use aokp or cm 10
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For many of us, camera is an important thing.

aakarani said:
Disable all the Bloatware or freeze it using link2sd.
(all share, talk back, s-voice)
Still sitting between 540mb and 630mb maximum
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Is it in the app store ?
Is there any way to freeze samsung permanently without root ?
does link2sd need root to work ?
is advance task killer enough to kill all samsung bloatware ?

Kojaes said:
Is it in the app store ?
Is there any way to freeze samsung permanently without root ?
does link2sd need root to work ?
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1) Yes.
2) Yes. You can go to "manage apps", select the applications. There will be an option called "Disable". No need for any app.
3) See above

Note 3 only show 2.38G Ram?

As title above, I tho note 3 should having 3GB ram but somehow it only show 2.38G in task manager? If it was assigned to system why it shared so many to them? Other Samsung phone like note 2 and S4 only assigned like 0.2G ram to system?
Pls help~~~~
Thanks

xx1704xx said:
As title above, I tho note 3 should having 3GB ram but somehow it only show 2.38G in task manager? If it was assigned to system why it shared so many to them? Other Samsung phone like note 2 and S4 only assigned like 0.2G ram to system?
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That's because the rest is system reserved.

Gpu memory?

Is it the case that when Cyanogenmod/AOSP comes our way, they could release more usable RAM?
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The adreno 330 gpu supposedly reserves 0.5GB for itself.
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ZombieZonny said:
That's because the rest is system reserved.
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Is it possible to let it to release more ram for daily use? Just wonder not much in term of hardware (at least I think so) upgrade if compare with note 2 but in term of memory reserve,it seem like 3 time bigger than note 2...thank you very much

Guy, you have still 700MB more than other phones. You don't need more. I have all my apps opened and I still have 1GB free.. So dont worry
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TheRealFelix0212 said:
Guy, you have still 700MB more than other phones. You don't need more. I have all my apps opened and I still have 1GB free.. So dont worry
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I can't believe you said that. =O (In the most dramatic voice possible and background music)
On my note 2 (2gb) I have to kill apps every few hours otherwise it's almost slow to the point I can't multi task and switch to different apps in a timely manner. You're the first I've ever heard say, "you don't need more [RAM]."
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Android 4.3 works fine on every 2Gig Device like Nexus.. Why should 3Gigs of RAM don't reach for 4.3 here?
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As said before the GPU in the S800 version saves .70gigs while the Exynos saves .34 gigs but not much of a biggie we have f**ing 3 gigs it doesn't affects us in almost anything unless you're multitasking while multitasking while multitasking while playing modern combat xzibit way XD
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*GalaxyDev* said:
As said before the GPU in the S800 version saves .70gigs while the Exynos saves .34 gigs but not much of a biggie we have f**ing 3 gigs it doesn't affects us in almost anything unless you're multitasking while multitasking while multitasking while playing modern combat xzibit way XD
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MohJee said:
The adreno 330 gpu supposedly reserves 0.5GB for itself.
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That it is a samsung lie. Other phones with the SD800 and 2gb of ram gives the user 1.81gb like the LG G2 or the nexus 5 in screenshots.
So, if LG only takes 190mb of ram with the same processor, theres no reason to take 500 by samsung, or at least not by the GPU. And if samsung needs 700mb for the s-crapware preinstalled, well, thats unfortunate.
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gordonzhao said:
I can't believe you said that. =O (In the most dramatic voice possible and background music)
On my note 2 (2gb) I have to kill apps every few hours otherwise it's almost slow to the point I can't multi task and switch to different apps in a timely manner. You're the first I've ever heard say, "you don't need more [RAM]."
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So much this, I can accept that to some people have a phone with 30 apps installed, but I have over 400, and even if I use greenify or autostarts to freeze a most of them, I use a lot of ram, and I also need to use ram managers, if the phone goes below 200mb, it becomes super ultra slow, so from 2.3 to 2.7 it is a huge improvement that I really want to have.

I have found my note 3 freezes considerably when only few apps are running in the background. I'm constantly closing apps via task manager which I didn't have to on my HTC one. So something clearly isn't working as it should. This was one of the reasons why i moved away from samsung phones in the past.
I do like note 3 but I can't help feeling it's over bloated. I've had 3 note 3's all have the same issue.

Having 4 hours of use since it came out of the box nothing has been slow about it, even while restoring and using the phone. Once again my 2 was lagging with a fair number of apps running in the background if I didn't kill it.
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kersh said:
So much this, I can accept that to some people have a phone with 30 apps installed, but I have over 400, and even if I use greenify or autostarts to freeze a most of them, I use a lot of ram, and I also need to use ram managers, if the phone goes below 200mb, it becomes super ultra slow, so from 2.3 to 2.7 it is a huge improvement that I really want to have.
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I have 382 apps installed, and my RAM sticks at 1.2GB in use even without closing anything... Drops to 800MB in use when I clean them (and a lovely '62 apps closed' popup).
So I have no idea what is eating so much on yours as to require RAMmanagers.

gordonzhao said:
I can't believe you said that. =O (In the most dramatic voice possible and background music)
On my note 2 (2gb) I have to kill apps every few hours otherwise it's almost slow to the point I can't multi task and switch to different apps in a timely manner. You're the first I've ever heard say, "you don't need more [RAM]."
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What are you doing on your phone? lol, I'll say "I" don't need more RAM, apparently you do

I have yet to see any major issues with ram. I often check my available ram and only on 1 occasion i have used over 2GB ram, and i had loads of apps still open.
Not had any system slow downs so far.

Ftr, mine showed about 1.8/2.3 and phone was slowing down already, this was due to me intentionally not killing any apps.
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the htc one shows 1.5 !!!

Seems to me, we have 2.39 GB RAM phones.
I wonder why Samsung lied about that.

xx1704xx said:
As title above, I tho note 3 should having 3GB ram but somehow it only show 2.38G in task manager? If it was assigned to system why it shared so many to them? Other Samsung phone like note 2 and S4 only assigned like 0.2G ram to system?
Pls help~~~~
Thanks
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Are u on JB or KK. when my phone is on JB its only 2.4 GB RAM so i flash stock firmware KK now its 2.71 GB
Sorry for bad eng

Nexus 4 uses only 512MB???

Hello
I'm, still shocked.
Today I've upgraded to kitkat from 4.3. Everything stock and OTA.
I've noticed that heavy apps are often killed from RAM, so that when I open them again it takes a startup time as if it were the first time.
Then I have noticed that regardless of the apps I open, my memory usage is always around 500-550MB leaving 1300MB free!!
WTF.
Chrome is the most painful example.
1) Open some tabs in Chrome.
2) Then open some heavy apps, like play music, hangouts, youtube and calendar (maybe you should open some more to fill as RAM as possible).
3) Then open again Chrome
4) Chrome will reload tabs since it has been re-started again
If you have a look to the memory usage you will see aroun 500MBs. What about our 2GB!!!!
Being chrome so heavy, memory management decides to kill it each time, delivering a terrible user experience...
Any idea? Any solution apart from restoring 4.3???
Thanks a lot.

No kidding I'm still surprised. In the beginning I was using 800mb but now it sits at 475~mb ram usage. This is ridiculous and I'm using the heck out of it. On the downside its kicking my hangouts out of memory. When I launch hangouts, it takes a while to start up.
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It looks like the system is trying to limit itself to use only 500mb. Maybe that's what Google meant with Kitkat being more optimized? so much for 2gb ram...
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Now you mention it I am noticing a lot of apps restarting now. And hangouts is a prime example.
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So does this mean there is now no benefit in having 2GB ram? Kind of like having a laptop with 8GB ram running a 32 bit operating system that can only see 2.

CalabiYau said:
Hello
I'm, still shocked.
Today I've upgraded to kitkat from 4.3. Everything stock and OTA.
I've noticed that heavy apps are often killed from RAM, so that when I open them again it takes a startup time as if it were the first time.
Then I have noticed that regardless of the apps I open, my memory usage is always around 500-550MB leaving 1300MB free!!
WTF.
Chrome is the most painful example.
1) Open some tabs in Chrome.
2) Then open some heavy apps, like play music, hangouts, youtube and calendar (maybe you should open some more to fill as RAM as possible).
3) Then open again Chrome
4) Chrome will reload tabs since it has been re-started again
If you have a look to the memory usage you will see aroun 500MBs. What about our 2GB!!!!
Being chrome so heavy, memory management decides to kill it each time, delivering a terrible user experience...
Any idea? Any solution apart from restoring 4.3???
Thanks a lot.
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Per Google, KitKat is designed to run in older phone too, even at 512MB RAM can still run KitKat. For example, Nexus One which has only 512MB RAM and still able to run KitKat, not stock ROM per se.

are you sure??? I tried it on purpose. I opened asphalt 8, Dragon Realms, turned the music on on the Play music, Hangouts,Facebook, Google Currents, Chrome, and music tuner in capture mode, and I am able to switch between them seemlessly. I opened settings and it jumps to 719 MB RAM.
On the other hand I faced some weird lag on my N4 these past days with KitKat. I must say I already forgot how laggy Android was long long ago, and now I am forced to remember it.....
Stock 4.4, not rooted yet (for observation purposes)

Even my tapatalk app seems to get killed off all the time.
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This is a huge problem, can someone confirm if this is only on nexus 4 or even on the nexus 5 ?

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This is a huge problem, can someone confirm if this is only on nexus 4 or even on the nexus 5 ?
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Hmm maybe it's not only using 512mb... but mine reaches 1gb and kills stuff off relentlessly.

I just loaded around 11 apps. After switching to the first app; it refreshes. My ram never reaches 1GB.

Could it be something kernel side? I'm on faux kernel.

Now that u mentioned i checked on my phone .. i am on stock rooted.. my ram doesnt go above 600mb howmanyever apps i open it reaches 600 mb and then starts killing them .. this isnt cool ..!! now i understand why my apps restart on me sometimes .. this is a screwup .. whats the point in having 2gb ram and not getting the benefits out of it .. kitkat is supposed to support 512mb ram .. not make the max limit of the phone 512 mb .. hope this gets solved!

Can someone on stock do a backup then test faux kernel or some other kernel see if it's the same? As i sai mine reaches about 900-1000 before it starts killing off i still think this is a bit low. 2gb of ram so why not use it it's being wasted.

In stock is confirmed. Sometimes you can get up to 680-700 but then in some seconds they get reduced up to the 500 again...
A friend of mine has a Nexus 5. He did the same test and he get stable usage of 1Gb and no tab refresh/hangout re-start..
It is clearly a Nexus 4 issue. Final proof:
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=322336
They say that it is logic management problem of android... Chrome has nothing to do except being so heavy... But it happens with lots of others...

I can also confirm this
I can also confirm this on Stock Nexus 4 Kitkat (Root).
I did not notice this before, since apps were loaded so seamlessly and quickly from cache (Is it because I'm using ART?), but Chrome gave it away since the tabs are refreshed.
It starts caching apps at ~800+ MB usage till it reaches ~500 MB.
It doesn't bother me performance wise, but is there a way to change the memory limit other than 800 MB on a rooted device?

Do you Know any custom kernel that allows this better usage?
The less intrusive possible since stock is fine for me except for this...
Faux? Semaphore? Another?

Im using semaphore but mine is same. Hangouts gonna restart, chrome refresh and launcher redraw. Maybe Google will fix it.
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i think your problem maybe related to OTA update .
i'm okay with Stock rom with factory image .
but i use franco kernel .

No wonder the kitkat makes my phone lag a lot.. Even apps like Facebook and whatsapp take time to load and lots of time to scroll.. And chrome gets stuck every time I scroll..
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CM11 High RAM Usage

I've noticed lately that CM11 is using abnormal amounts of memory. It doesn't slow my phone down all that much, but it's just bothering me because I know its not supposed to. Before I got this G2, my S3 ran CM10.2 and it used a ton less memory (between 4 and 600mb).
And from what I know, KitKat is supposed to use less resources.
I also have a normal amount of processes running. Just basic apps like Snapchat, Kik, Voice and Voice+, and all the normal Google services that always run. I even uninstalled FB cause I barely use it and at any given time it would be using up 70mb, and it made no difference,
I cant just keep killing my apps cause they reopen automatically. Even when I do, it doesn't even make a temporary difference. Even when I kill the cached apps.
Its just really bothering me. Any suggestions?
I have a couple screenshots.

free ram = wasted ram

sawyerbenjamin said:
I've noticed lately that CM11 is using abnormal amounts of memory. It doesn't slow my phone down all that much, but it's just bothering me because I know its not supposed to. Before I got this G2, my S3 ran CM10.2 and it used a ton less memory (between 4 and 600mb).
And from what I know, KitKat is supposed to use less resources.
I also have a normal amount of processes running. Just basic apps like Snapchat, Kik, Voice and Voice+, and all the normal Google services that always run. I even uninstalled FB cause I barely use it and at any given time it would be using up 70mb, and it made no difference,
I cant just keep killing my apps cause they reopen automatically. Even when I do, it doesn't even make a temporary difference. Even when I kill the cached apps.
Its just really bothering me. Any suggestions?
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The amount of free ram looks fine. That's what I get on my end with stock LG G2
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It bothers me so much that people still don't know how Android runs and manages resources.
It's not Windows, it's not MacOS, it's Android, it allocates everything on the RAM so that it can be accessed faster, and this improves load times, multitasking, etc.
Free RAM is pretty much wasted RAM and please, do not install task killers nor kill tasks manually. Android does it alone and does it better. Whenever it needs free RAM it will shut down something that's not being used and haven't been used in a long time to free that RAM up.

As two others have stated, free RAM is wasted RAM. I only have about 600mb of RAM free on the Optimus G3 ROM.

prowsterz said:
As two others have stated, free RAM is wasted RAM. I only have about 600mb of RAM free on the Optimus G3 ROM.
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I hope I don't sound stupid. It's just more of an OCD thing. Just a couple days ago and prior to that, my phone stuck around 750-850mb. Now its using a over a gig 100% of the time and its just bothering me. I figured there was an actual reason for this. Maybe its from Xposed modules? I never noticed it until I started using Xposed a couple days ago.
But its not a big deal I guess.

sawyerbenjamin said:
I hope I don't sound stupid. It's just more of an OCD thing. Just a couple days ago and prior to that, my phone stuck around 750-850mb. Now its using a over a gig 100% of the time and its just bothering me. I figured there was an actual reason for this. Maybe its from Xposed modules? I never noticed it until I started using Xposed a couple days ago.
But its not a big deal I guess.
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If you're not having actual performance issues as a result, then don't worry about it. If you always have X amount of free RAM, then you don't need that RAM. As has already been stated, free/unused RAM is wasted RAM. Something most people don't understand about how computers work is that storage and RAM and two completely separate things. Storage is just that - STORAGE. Nothing runs directly from storage. RAM is where things run. When you - or the system - goes to run an application, it gets read from the slow storage and loaded into the much faster RAM and runs from there. This is why more RAM is better (notice I didn't say more free RAM). It allows more applications to be cached in RAM ready to run fast - or to keep more services loaded to allow for more cool features.
More RAM is better, but if you're always clearing it out to keep X amount free and then reloading the same apps again, you are doing yourself no favors from a performance perspective. I am sure you have plenty available at all times for the system to load new apps. It will kill them on its own either when it needs to, or when it sees that haven't accessed that app after a certain amount of time.

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If you're not having actual performance issues as a result, then don't worry about it. If you always have X amount of free RAM, then you don't need that RAM. As has already been stated, free/unused RAM is wasted RAM. Something most people don't understand about how computers work is that storage and RAM and two completely separate things. Storage is just that - STORAGE. Nothing runs directly from storage. RAM is where things run. When you - or the system - goes to run an application, it gets read from the slow storage and loaded into the much faster RAM and runs from there. This is why more RAM is better (notice I didn't say more free RAM). It allows more applications to be cached in RAM ready to run fast - or to keep more services loaded to allow for more cool features.
More RAM is better, but if you're always clearing it out to keep X amount free and then reloading the same apps again, you are doing yourself no favors from a performance perspective. I am sure you have plenty available at all times for the system to load new apps. It will kill them on its own either when it needs to, or when it sees that haven't accessed that app after a certain amount of time.
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I am 100% fully aware of what Random Access Memory is and what purpose it serves, and I can distinguish it from storage. I know far more than the very basics of a computer. I was just wondering what was using all the extra RAM up. It was bothering me because prior, my phone was using a lot less. Idk why you assumed I didn't understand what RAM and storage was.

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I am 100% fully aware of what Random Access Memory is and what purpose it serves, and I can distinguish it from storage. I know far more than the very basics of a computer. I was just wondering what was using all the extra RAM up. It was bothering me because prior, my phone was using a lot less. Idk why you assumed I didn't understand what RAM and storage was.
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Read your own post again and see if you can figure out why i thought it needed explaining.
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rebar71 said:
Read your own post again and see if you can figure out why i thought it needed explaining.
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Yeah I didn't mention storage once.

sawyerbenjamin said:
Yeah I didn't mention storage once.
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EDIT: No, you didn't mention storage. But just by asking the question, people generally are demonstrating a clear lack of understanding about how computers work. I usually just keep quiet, but every now and then, I feel compelled to fully explain it in the hope that the topic won't return. Alas, it always does.
I apologize that you were the unlucky one that I singled out on this occasion. I did not mean to offend. I thought I was being helpful. Maybe I helped someone else.
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[Q] Opening task switcher takes very long (2-4 seconds) on 5.0 Lollipop SM-G900F

I flashed the polish Android 5.0 lollipop on my SM-G900F Galaxy S5. I have the latest xxxBNL9 update. When i hit the task switcher (left) button it takes very long to minimize the screen and open the task switcher. Typically it takes 2-3 seconds. When i do it repetitively it goes quicker. I've already set the "transition animation scale" to off (or 0.5x) in "developer options". Frequently closing all apps also doesn't help.
Please help me. I multitask a lot and this delay is very annoying.

Unfortunately... this is android's fault, it is also experienced by some Nexus Roms.

trettet said:
Unfortunately... this is android's fault, it is also experienced by some Nexus Roms.
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Well that surprises me. I thought it was the bulky touchwiz for sure. I guess there's nothinh to be done but wait for Google to fix it. Thank you for the information, could you provide a link for anyone else who has the same question?

pizzaman79 said:
Well that surprises me. I thought it was the bulky touchwiz for sure. I guess there's nothinh to be done but wait for Google to fix it. Thank you for the information, could you provide a link for anyone else who has the same question?
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I couldn't particularly find one on xda, but I've found lots of complaints on reddit..on Nexus and Android subs...just look it up..
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Agreed.
It was faster on 4.4.

There is a memory leak in 5.0 and even 5.0.1-2 that if you keep the phone on more than 2 days running the system eats up the RAM.
Was noted and linked to in the S5 firmware thread.

lynxblaine said:
There is a memory leak in 5.0 and even 5.0.1-2 that if you keep the phone on more than 2 days running the system eats up the RAM.
Was noted and linked to in the S5 firmware thread.
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Touchwiz is a bit of a memory leak on itself, but i think the memory leak doesn't just affect nexus phones, but also the Galaxy S5. When i look in my memory manager, with only a few small open apps (totalling less than 200mb) my memory is almost full, 1.4 /1.67gb used.
I don't know if that's the actual cause of the delay on opening the memory manager. It might well be, because with more memory it can keep the task switcher open/active longer. The times when there is a delay are probably when the task switcher app was closed because of low memory. When you open it several times, it goes much faster.
Note: I cleared my cache partition after a failed root attempt and reflashed the stock rom (without doing a factory reset). That helped a bit. It went from 2-4 seconds to 1-3 seconds to open the task switcher. It helped, but it's not a permanent fix.

The only temporary workaround as of yet is to reboot the phone regularly, like every 2 days.

2gb is really not enough for this phone... that's why we are seing a lag free note 3 touchwiz rom because it has 3 gb of ram.
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What you talking is nonsense. If 2 are gigabytes of RAM too little why are then 200 to 300 megabytes always free? If you have more than that it is useless. Why would anyone want to have a lot of RAM just sitting there and does nothing. Eats more battery, literally taking space in phone but does nothing.
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What you talking is nonsense. If 2 are gigabytes of RAM too little why are then 200 to 300 megabytes always free? If you have more than that it is useless. Why would anyone want to have a lot of RAM just sitting there and does nothing. Eats more battery, literally taking space in phone but does nothing.
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Having 200-300 MB of ram means yoh have too much crap running, i have 600ish free right now, and as far as i know having more ram would not affect battery life, nlt sure where you got that from.
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Rakuu said:
Having 200-300 MB of ram means yoh have too much crap running, i have 600ish free right now, and as far as i know having more ram would not affect battery life, nlt sure where you got that from.
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Of course it affects battery life because phone could have less RAM in total (physically less) which needs less juice. Less RAM needs less physical space and battery can be bigger. So again, if you have a lot free RAM just sitting there, it does nothing and I don`t know which smart ass even started comparing ROM optimization and free RAM.

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Of course it affects battery life because phone could have less RAM in total (physically less) which needs less juice. Less RAM needs less physical space and battery can be bigger. So again, if you have a lot free RAM just sitting there, it does nothing and I don`t know which smart ass even started comparing ROM optimization and free RAM.
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Other than having less size for the battery(which is is untrue, you could just have one larger sized ram stick) having more ram does not lead to less battery life. Like i said before where did you hear that? Googling that only brings up the contrary so im confused where you got that information.
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Sending 15 photos via fb messenger causes crash because it needs more ram.
Free ram isn't FREE RAM, it's cached memory, it is still being used but if an needs more it will free it and the cached process will be moved to swap or forced close...and yeah have fun sending a support or bug report to facebook, because they're not fixing it.
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