Hey,
Does anyone know how i can slow down the scrolling speed on these. Cause now the program list is not nice to look trough. When i scroll slowly and release my finger it shoots trough like crazy, nearly all the way to the Z... I have to scroll, hold for a second and then release in order for the list to stand still, and then sometimes i accidently activate the wrong app. SO where can i decrease scrolling speed and the time it requires to hold down in order to stop the list from moving.
Ive added a youtube vid to illustrate what i mean:
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=NIf560XBFs8
Greetings.
Hi Guys,
Just got my HTC HD2 last night on O2 Ireland (Silent release yesterday),
Love the phone but one thing that is really annoying me is the onscreen keyboard, the qwerty and compact qwerty are useless to me, even in landscape mode, but I can use the numeric keypad one although I often have the odd mistake here unless I type really slow and think about it.
Basically what normally happens is as I have quite big fingers, sometimes I tough most of the key I want and a small amount of the key underneath, which is really irritating me as it's taking me 10x longer to send a message than it does on my N95 8GB.
I love the phone but the slow text entry really is making me stick with the N95 8GB right now. I was wondering if anyone had any advice? I wish I could have some nice bigger keypad like when you put the pin in when you turn the phone on and that would be much easier for me!
Is there any way I can use or install any other text input options, or what about bluetooth keypads (Keyboards not really acceptable as they're too big but a keypad could work)
Cheers for any advice
Dear JustinJJ,
I had the same problem, until I relaised I had a hardware screen problem. There are a number of tests you can do to find out if you have a hardware problem.
Just have a look on the forum.
Regards and best wishes with your typing.
Oh, just to let you know, I am on my third HD2 in less than a month, and this is the first time I can type the A-Z without making a mistake. So it was hardware not my fingers.
ADC (Yateley, UK)
Try another keyboard, like Swype?
It needs lots of practice, especially when you were using phone with keypad in the past.
I was going to try Swype over the weekend and see how that goes, it looks quite good but I have doubts because of the much smaller key size which makes me worry a little bit.
I've already tried to recalibrate the screen which helped a little bit, but it's still nowhere near as nice as typing with an actual phone keypad.
It really annoys me as I love the phone so much for everything else apart from text entry!
Practice makes perfect seriously though, it just takes a bit of time to get used to it. Back in December someone made a handy little programme - I think it's called touch mark - which plots where you touch the screen and compares it to where you should be touching the screen, quite handy to "retrain" your finger/eye coordination... will go see if I can find the link to it.
Edit: found it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594158&highlight=touchmark
going from resistive to capacitive screen is a big jump; you WILL make a lot of mistakes on the "fat finger" phenomenon, but eventually you will get better (right now i can type faster and with better accuracy on the iphone screen than my X1a keyboard )
Isadora said:
Practice makes perfect seriously though, it just takes a bit of time to get used to it. Back in December someone made a handy little programme - I think it's called touch mark - which plots where you touch the screen and compares it to where you should be touching the screen, quite handy to "retrain" your finger/eye coordination... will go see if I can find the link to it.
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Indeed,
Touch mark can be quite helpfull to retrain your touching skills
Grtz,
Degake
I use swype and it's mostly great (using it now, in fact) quite surprising how inaccurate you can be with it and it still gets it right.
regarding the capacitive screen in general, the angle of your finger can make all the difference, the pad being recognized much more accurately than the tip/edge, and even the temperature.... cold dry skin = jumpy detection.
I also found that no matter how much I align the screen, for best results my aim must always be slightly up and left if where I'm aiming....not much, just a bit.
I used Cootek touchpal on my HTC HD. I use the predicitive text feature with the 3 letters in each box. It does a hell of a job predicting my words. I find that it types faster than when I was on my blackberry. As in all things new you have to train yourself on it and eventually it becomes natural.
The only typing I never wanted to master was the number pad t9 crap. I got so fed up with it I didn't use it went to blackberry...
I went from a SE W910i with a physical numpad to the HD2 and the first week typing on the HD2 was torture, I dreaded typing a simple "On my way" SMS and kept everything as short as possible. After a week or two I started understanding how it works and started retraining myself in regards to hitting the right key. A few things I noticed are that you don't press the key like you would on a physical keyboard so you need a much "lighter" touch and try to just tap the screen with the tip of your finger. Patience is one of your biggest friends when learning to type and I've sat down with my HD2 for dedicated sessions on typing and have learnt a lot. I also avoid using my thumbs as they are too wide and flat and tend to not hit the keys I want, I usually hold the phone in one hand and "type" with the index finger of the other hand. Now I can type as fast as I would on a normal numpad keyboard but not as fast as I could with my G1.
I've owned a N95 and found the keys were too small and I usually hit more than one at a time which was most annoying. So I don't think your fingers are too big.
I've never tried any other keyboard program but Swype looks like it could be loads of fun as well as more accurate. So give it a week or two to get used to typing and if you still have problems then you may have a faulty screen.
i also use touchpal as it has a great auto correction. first i used the three letters in one box, but now i'm learning full qwertz to be more flexible.
never tried swype but this and touchpal seems to be the most famous osk's around.
a good way for me to reduce the sensitivity and also reduce errors is to apply a screen protector. i got one from - i think e-cell, which was recommended by a lot of users here at devs.
Tried swype, that was awful, partly because my fingers were too big and partly because I had to think about the letters and stop when moving my finger which messed the word generation up.
Tried Touchpal and found that a little better than the built in keyboard in keypad mode but the fact they moved the space to the right of the 9 key really messed it up for me, if they had it underneath it would be perfect but it really messes me up right now and the key after hitting it I always end up hitting wrong.
Then I tried Cliquick! I was in love straight away with it's huge keys this is the only editor I can type accurately with, and not make any mistakes by accidentally pressing the wrong keys. The only problem was this has no predictive text or no standard hardware style keypad mode so it is a little slow having to use multi-tap and an unfamiliar layout, but least it's accurate and less frustrating even if it is slow.
Does anyone know if they plan to release a predictive text add in or perhaps a standard keypad layour, or is there any plug-ins I can use to achieve the same effect.
So it isn't just ME...
samsamuel said:
...I also found that no matter how much I align the screen, for best results my aim must always be slightly up and left if where I'm aiming....not much, just a bit.
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That's funny. I thought it was just ME. I realigned the screen and picked spots slightly BELOW the X.
Works great now when I actually click ON the icons...
I have a Xoom, and the typing on vBulletin forums is very laggy. There's a 2 second delay from when you hit a key to when the letter appears. Highlighting text is borderline impossible.
So, I was wondering for all you new Tab owners, if the same story applies, or if it's faster.
FYI, XDA is a vBulletin site, so you can use this forum to test.
The delay between pressing the key and the letter showing up is noticeable but no more than, say, 100 ms. Similarly, text selection is slower than in native apps, but it is definitely usable. The selection slider just lags behind my finger by about a quarter inch.
Is it the transformer or HC?
Have you tried switching the keyboard? I had no keyboard lag with the standard HC keyboard.
The lag only exists with the stock browser and persists with any keyboard (especially apparent when using text-prediction and typing into captchas)
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The lag only exists with the stock browser and persists with any keyboard (especially apparent when using text-prediction and typing into captchas)
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I Use Dolphin HD With Thumb Keyboard. Alot Less laggy that stock keyboard and Default browser but its still laggy. Doesn't matter which browser I use. Pretty sure it s a Honeycomb Thing. With the Rumored 3.2 Hopefully they fix this.
I really noticed the lag today. I am using the stock brower & keyboard. However something isn't right because while typing there will be apoint the backspace will not work. Also it will not allow me to easily go back & edit. Just posting this was a pain in the ass.
but do you think the stock browser on the thrive will suffer like the transformer..
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I really noticed the lag today. I am using the stock brower & keyboard. However something isn't right because while typing there will be apoint the space will not work. Also it will not allow me to easily go back & edit. Just posting this was a pain in the ass.
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I agree. I have given up posting responses sometimes because of the difficulty with editing. I find that the green positioning cursor will not allow me to place it accurately. It seems to depend on what keyboard you use. while writing this, I have switched between Swype, SlideIT, and the Asus keyboard and found that they behave very differently:
- Asus keyboard least lag, easy to reposition cursor but takes too much screen space and poor predictive capability
- Swipe (honeycomb beta version) lags badly and cursor repositioning extremely inaccurate and even using the soft cursor keys, still can't position cursor accurately. Smallest on screen presence.
- SlideIT the best compromise. Doesn't lag too badly, cursor reasonably easy to reposition though sometimes a bit erratic, and screen estate used not too excessive.
Hope that info helps.
I like "hackers keyboard". Much nicer for editing, and no lag. It has real arrow keys.
Before I completely re-flashed my phone:
Swype was basically unusable with my finger at times
Much better results with a pen
It seemed some apps handled my finger and pen better than others
Sometimes the contact would literally jump around as I swyped
Even holding down the delete key would cause some jumping around
The voice typing would only type out in GERMAN even though I am reciting in English
Limited test with native Google keyboard but even that the lines were not smooth when swyping
Both would be tough at times even when just typing letter by letter without swyping
After flash:
Much better than before but there are definitely still some remnants of this bug
Just like before, I am hoping it is not the screen because this anomaly does not affect any other app usage, like games, drawing, etc... ONLY typing text
At least the voice typing is now working properly in English
I'm inclined to say this happens the worst on Facebook and at times on the native text app on Google
Anyone have this problem before, any solutions?
Sometimes this is actually just as bad as before when using my finger... but it still does some weird actions when I use the pen. (At least the voice typing now types in English.)
Could this be a sign of damage to the screen? Any steps I can try to clear this up? FYI I am not even using any screen protector right now.