I would like to install Google Edition stock rom on my S4 i9505, it is locked to O2-UK, would it be possible to do so without being factory unlocked.
Thanks
No
First of all, you cannot simply install a GE ROM on a regular i9505, because the bootloader and the partitions are different. Also, ODIN will always recognize your phone as an i9505, so you cannot install GE ROMs this way.
What you can do is flash CWM and use a Custom ROM which is based on the GE ROM. But this is not exactly the same as a stock GE ROM. It comes close, though, and usually is 'better' anyways due to 3way reboot, root etc.
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What does this mean? Is your bootloader locked? In this case you can only install ROMs via ODIN AFAIK, unless someone already has hacked the bootloader so that you can install CWM.
Edit: If your bootloader is locked you can only install stock ROMs of course, or some stock-based ROMs which don't touch the bootloader or contain an official bootloader update.
BabelHuber said:
No
First of all, you cannot simply install a GE ROM on a regular i9505, because the bootloader and the partitions are different. Also, ODIN will always recognize your phone as an i9505, so you cannot install GE ROMs this way.
What you can do is flash CWM and use a Custom ROM which is based on the GE ROM. But this is not exactly the same as a stock GE ROM. It comes close, though, and usually is 'better' anyways due to 3way reboot, root etc.
What does this mean? Is your bootloader locked? In this case you can only install ROMs via ODIN AFAIK, unless someone already has hacked the bootloader so that you can install CWM.
Edit: If your bootloader is locked you can only install stock ROMs of course, or some stock-based ROMs which don't touch the bootloader or contain an official bootloader update.
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This is what I meant sorry. Flash a new ROM based on the GE. I have never flashed before so wouldn't know where to start.
I mean carrier locked to O2-UK, it is completely stock so I am guessing the bootloader is still locked.
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Start reading the forums before you start flashing. These are basic questions. Read, learn and prevent your phone from becoming a paperweight.
I can tell you all the steps you need to take, but then you still don't know what you are doing.
Lennyz1988 said:
Start reading the forums before you start flashing. These are basic questions. Read, learn and prevent your phone from becoming a paperweight.
I can tell you all the steps you need to take, but then you still don't know what you are doing.
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I couldn't agree more. Read up and take it easy!
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I know the basics of rooting and flashing files apks new recovery etc, but never flashed a ROM. If that helps.
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You cab never read too much! Had a few heart attacks when I started!
Always, always backup! Then backup the backup!
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First let me say I'm not a noob.. I'm a developer but don't really deal with rooting, etc. So please don't bash...
I tried searching for answers to this question, but couldn't find an exact one..
I have the AT&T S4 with the MF3 OTA update. I want to try and install a custom rom, but in reading the hot to's, it says not to attempt to do it with the mf3 update since it's boot locked. Can I re-install a stock S4 firmware using odin and then, after a stock firmware is installed, then install twrp with a custom rom?
Thanks!
itsdavetime said:
First let me say I'm not a noob.. I'm a developer but don't really deal with rooting, etc. So please don't bash...
I tried searching for answers to this question, but couldn't find an exact one..
I have the AT&T S4 with the MF3 OTA update. I want to try and install a custom rom, but in reading the hot to's, it says not to attempt to do it with the mf3 update since it's boot locked. Can I re-install a stock S4 firmware using odin and then, after a stock firmware is installed, then install twrp with a custom rom?
Thanks!
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No.
scott14719 said:
No.
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Ha.. Well, that's an exact answer
There is a method in the works on the VZW forums that will allow custom ROMs on locked bootloaders. We are hoping to get it ported over the our side. Things are looking very promising. This method, known as a safestrap, will also allow multiple ROMs at once. Up to 4 slots. It keeps your stock ROM safe so if you have a bad flash, you can still boot right back and have a functional phone. You are only limited by how much space you have on your internal SD.
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itsdavetime said:
Ha.. Well, that's an exact answer
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graydiggy said:
There is a method in the works on the VZW forums that will allow custom ROMs on locked bootloaders. We are hoping to get it ported over the our side. Things are looking very promising. This method, known as a safestrap, will also allow multiple ROMs at once. Up to 4 slots. It keeps your stock ROM safe so if you have a bad flash, you can still boot right back and have a functional phone. You are only limited by how much space you have on your internal SD.
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Until then, OP, my advise is to just roll on stock/unrooted. Period.
Cheers
I have a rooted MK2 device. I tried installing CWM through ROM Manager but my phone will not boot the CWM and when I try it comes up with an error.
It seems to be installing a Loki'd version of CWM recovery will solve the problem, but I don't how to flash loki recoveries and I've looked all over the forums for one specific to loki'd recoveries. Can someone help me out please? I'm relatively new at this so I'm totally unsure about how to proceed. Many thanks!
Sadly, no custom recoveries are currently available for MK2.
Kaze105 said:
Sadly, no custom recoveries are currently available for MK2.
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Oh no Well I have a few questions then.
1. I would like to install a 4.4 Google Edition rom. Is there any way for me to accomplish this? Also, is it a bad idea to go ahead and flash it without a recovery?
2. Should I revert the recovery back to original? How would I go about doing that?
hsu0216 said:
Oh no Well I have a few questions then.
1. I would like to install a 4.4 Google Edition rom. Is there any way for me to accomplish this? Also, is it a bad idea to go ahead and flash it without a recovery?
2. Should I revert the recovery back to original? How would I go about doing that?
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There isn't anything you can do so far. The only thing you could do is use an app I can't remember the name of to flash mods to your current system, but you can not flash ROMs and definitely not anything that may need a different kernel. If you want to get a working recovery then find the MJ6-MJ9 thread but only use the recovery tar file, not the rest of it.
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you sir have a locked bootloader (i think)
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I have a rooted MK2 device. I tried installing CWM through ROM Manager but my phone will not boot the CWM and when I try it comes up with an error.
It seems to be installing a Loki'd version of CWM recovery will solve the problem, but I don't how to flash loki recoveries and I've looked all over the forums for one specific to loki'd recoveries. Can someone help me out please? I'm relatively new at this so I'm totally unsure about how to proceed. Many thanks!
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well.....if you were on MF3 then you could load safestrap and then get the google edition but it wont support the 4.4 only the 4.2.2 version of the GE
thats what i did. i highly doubt there will be an unlocked bootloader for MK2 im on mf3 and cant even update to 4.3 MK2.....ill ask the developer of safestrap and ask him because he was getting a MK2 galaxy s4 on att last week and he was doing some testing....or you can do some research your self but im happy to help even though my account says im a junior member i know quite a lot....
if safestrap works here is a link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448726
IF SAFESTRAP WORKS LOOK UP A GUIDE ON HOW TO USE IT I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BRICK YOUR PHONE BECAUSE I TOLD YOU ABOUT IT also dont use the stock rom slot if all this works
Dude.
Search. Read. Repeat.
Anx XDA says ni question too stupid..Well some reaponses are..Oh GOD!!!
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Anx XDA says ni question too stupid..Well some reaponses are..Oh GOD!!!
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No question too stupid. But asking a question that has been answered hundreds of times and refusing to use the search button...
I read on a page that its possible to use CyanogenMod without root but i dont know how ? Is there a way and when yes how ?
Thank you
(And sorry for my bad english)
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bengrmn said:
I read on a page that its possible to use CyanogenMod without root but i dont know how ? Is there a way and when yes how ?
Thank you
(And sorry for my bad english)
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Unless there is a theme style then there isn't a way.
Also you should have posted this here to get an answer to your query.
Your topic heading makes it seem like it's a how-to xD you might wanna be a bit more careful with the headings...
Also, I'm 99.99% sure you cannot install CM without rooting. Well, you might be able to just flash recovery and flash CM on it, but I won't advise something I haven't done
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bengrmn said:
I read on a page that its possible to use CyanogenMod without root but i dont know how ? Is there a way and when yes how ?
Thank you
(And sorry for my bad english)
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go into dev options and disable root access and you will be able to use CM without root, not sure why you would wanna do that..but its possible :silly:
PS- btw questions go in the Q&A section...
Jamal Ahmed said:
...Also, I'm 99.99% sure you cannot install CM without rooting. Well, you might be able to just flash recovery and flash CM on it, but I won't advise something I haven't done
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rooting before flashing a custom rom is useless, flashing recovery and then flashing a custom rom is how it should be done.. but ppl have just made rooting one of the steps, and now new users think rooting is actually necessary to flash a custom rom..
root Note 3 after accepting stock ROM update to 5.0
Khizar said:
rooting before flashing a custom rom is useless, flashing recovery and then flashing a custom rom is how it should be done.. but ppl have just made rooting one of the steps, and now new users think rooting is actually necessary to flash a custom rom..
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I've almost given up on successfully rooting and installing custom ROM on my Galaxy Note3 (N900V) It seemed that there were roadblocks at every method that I thought would work with my Verizon Note 3. The above quote suggest (to me) that rooting is no longer necessary but that it can be done simply by flashing a recovery (CWM or TWRP??) and then flashing the custom ROM.
Instructions usually assume a Windows computer to flash via usb cable. I'm running Linux so where can a find a step by step guide that will let me install Cyanogenmod or some other custom ROM that will let me debloat, and perhaps improve function on my Note 3 which I plan to be keeping for the foreseeable future.
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Suggest you ask in the forum for your model .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574886
Doesn't the Verizon version of the Note 3 have a locked bootloader that must be unlocked before flashing TWRP or a non-TW based ROM? Heimdall can flash TWRP in Linux: http://glassechidna.com.au/heimdall/
Doesn't the Verizon version of the Note 3 have a locked bootloader
yes its locked .
I see all these threads about flashing recovery and rooting on all carriers, so I just want to be sure, is it unlocked by default? If not, is there a way to unlock it?
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no it is not and no you can't unlock it. You can use loki to flash a recovery on it and then flash roms.
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no it is not and no you can't unlock it. You can use loki to flash a recovery on it and then flash roms.
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Loki is basically a bypass that allows you to have a custom recovery, right? Or is it just like a bootstrap/safestrap that requires you to have the stock ROM/kernel still installed?
And does Loki do a factory reset as if you had unlocked your bootloader?
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Loki is basically a bypass that allows you to have a custom recovery, right? Or is it just like a bootstrap/safestrap that requires you to have the stock ROM/kernel still installed?
And does Loki do a factory reset as if you had unlocked your bootloader?
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when I flashed loki and recovery and root I did not have a factory reset so everything was still there. Also it allows you to flash roms you don't have to stay on stock
rquiett said:
when I flashed loki and recovery and root I did not have a factory reset so everything was still there. Also it allows you to flash roms you don't have to stay on stock
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Awesome, thanks!
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Coming from a Nexus, the procedure is a little different.
What you do is hook it up to the PC and run a script to gain ROOT. Then you download FreeGee and flash a Custom recovery. Pretty straight up. Doesn't require factory resets at all.
And I DO highly recommend using stock for about a week before you flash AOSP roms. The Stock rom is very nice, feature rich, and polished.
here is a link to an explanation of loki given by the creator. it was originally made when the galaxy s4 came out to get past samsungs security called knox but has evolved to work on other devices like lg. it doesnt support most manufacturers, just the ones dan wrote it to support.
https://github.com/djrbliss/loki
player911 said:
Coming from a Nexus, the procedure is a little different.
What you do is hook it up to the PC and run a script to gain ROOT. Then you download FreeGee and flash a Custom recovery. Pretty straight up. Doesn't require factory resets at all.
And I DO highly recommend using stock for about a week before you flash AOSP roms. The Stock rom is very nice, feature rich, and polished.
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I just want to make sure phones I'm looking at are able to be messed with, so I'm not stuck with something stuffed to the brim with bloat forever. I usually stick with stock for a while before switching to custom ROMs.
One last question (I may be lying about that), does the G2 handle 4-6ft drops well? I read one article that said it's about on par with iPhones there.
I have searched the forum and have been overwhelmed with threads that I can't seem to make fit my situation so I apologize if I've overlooked something obvious.
I have an AT&T S4 That came running UCUAMDL. I rooted when I first got it and have not done anything sense. I would like to update the stock rom but I don't want to lose root. At this time I'm not interested in custom roms although I've done it before on my S2. What would be the best option to achieve this aim.
Thank you in advance and again sorry if I missed this somewhere.
podunk said:
I have searched the forum and have been overwhelmed with threads that I can't seem to make fit my situation so I apologize if I've overlooked something obvious.
I have an AT&T S4 That came running UCUAMDL. I rooted when I first got it and have not done anything sense. I would like to update the stock rom but I don't want to lose root. At this time I'm not interested in custom roms although I've done it before on my S2. What would be the best option to achieve this aim.
Thank you in advance and again sorry if I missed this somewhere.
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Your best option would to be to flash a 4.4.2 custom rom. There is no root for the latest, nb1, firmware.
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odin to mk2 then, venom to a kit kat rom.
jd1639 said:
Your best option would to be to flash a 4.4.2 custom rom. There is no root for the latest, nb1, firmware.
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Thanks for the quick response. Makes since. So as long as I flash a custom rom I don't have to worry about bootlock or anything, right? What's the closest rom to stock as far as stability & compatibility?
Again, much appreciation.
podunk said:
Thanks for the quick response. Makes since. So as long as I flash a custom rom I don't have to worry about bootlock or anything, right? What's the closest rom to stock as far as stability & compatibility?
Again, much appreciation.
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Do you have a custom recovery and are you familiar with Loki?
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jd1639 said:
Do you have a custom recovery and are you familiar with Loki?
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I don't have my phone right here but I'm fairly certain I'm running TWRP.
podunk said:
I don't have my phone right here but I'm fairly certain I'm running TWRP.
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Just double checked and yes I've got TWRP installed.
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I don't have my phone right here but I'm fairly certain I'm running TWRP.
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Then I would try kangakat which I believe is loki'd. Make a backup in twrp of your current rom before you do anything. If you don't have titanium backup, get it and backup your apps. And make sure you have Google's backup and restore checked, settings, backup& restore.
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odin to mk2 then, venom to a kit kat rom.
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Worst advice possible. He's on amdl and can flash custom recovery and use loki.
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Then I would try kangakat which I believe is loki'd. Make a backup in twrp of your current rom before you do anything. If you don't have titanium backup, get it and backup your apps. And make sure you have Google's backup and restore checked, settings, backup& restore.
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Yes I have titanium backup and I will be sure to back up everything.
I was not familiar with loki so I did a little reading. Correct me if I'm wrong here but loki is something the rom developer uses to make it so my rom installation will go around the boot loader. I don't need to install anything related to loki I just need to make sure any rom that I chose is "loki'd". Correct? Therefore if my understanding is correct, once i've taken backup precautions, I would copy the loki'd rom to my sd card and flash via TWRP?
Again, I want to thank you for your help.
podunk said:
Yes I have titanium backup and I will be sure to back up everything.
I was not familiar with loki so I did a little reading. Correct me if I'm wrong here but loki is something the rom developer uses to make it so my rom installation will go around the boot loader. I don't need to install anything related to loki I just need to make sure any rom that I chose is "loki'd". Correct? Therefore if my understanding is correct, once i've taken backup precautions, I would copy the loki'd rom to my sd card and flash via TWRP?
Again, I want to thank you for your help.
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Loki is something the ROM developer can use. You either need to make sure the ROM is loki'd, or if you ever want to try something like an I9505 ROM, flash the loki-doki zip file after flashing the ROM (i'm not sure where the link is). Most ROMs in our dev section will have loki included, but i'd keep the loki-doki zip on your SD card just in case.
DeadlySin9 said:
Loki is something the ROM developer can use. You either need to make sure the ROM is loki'd, or if you ever want to try something like an I9505 ROM, flash the loki-doki zip file after flashing the ROM (i'm not sure where the link is). Most ROMs in our dev section will have loki included, but i'd keep the loki-doki zip on your SD card just in case.
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+1. Just make sure you wipe in twrp and flash your rom.
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