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Video Marketplace Missing?

I got my OTA Touchwiz update this morning, and after it rebooted I noticed that the Marketplace app had the video option at the top now. Great, but some of my other apps were acting kind of wonky so I did a system restore via the homebutton-leftvolume method, and now that I got everything back up and running I see that option in the Market is missing.
Any idea how to get it back? If it matters I'm running stock everything, never installed a bootloader, or anything out of the ordinary.
Fixed it! Had to remove and re-add my google account, and it prompted me to accept the EULA in the marketplace. After which the movie tab appeared.

I got the same issue. The movies section for android market doesnt show up but the google video app is installed though.

I have the movies. I an not in the US but used vpn prior update

I kinda remember that I didn't have movies in the market place until I opened the video/videos app in my apps and agreed on the software license agreement.

Same issue here. I have opened the movies app and added my account and accepted the agreement. I was actually looking forward to having this.
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Fixed it! Had to remove and re-add my google account, and it prompted me to accept the EULA in the marketplace. After which the movie tab appeared.

bhinmaine said:
Fixed it! Had to remove and re-add my google account, and it prompted me to accept the EULA in the marketplace. After which the movie tab appeared.
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Where did you remove the google account from? The settings accounts/sync or the market app?

Thanks! Did that and I got movies working now. For anyone having trouble then first remove your google account in the accounts/sync menu in settings. Then go to applications>all>market then force stop and clear data in it. After that go back to home screen then open the market. Sign in from there and then it will ask you to accept license agreement. Hit accept and you'll be in the market with the movies section available.

Danstek said:
Thanks! Did that and I got movies working now. For anyone having trouble then first remove your google account in the accounts/sync menu in settings. Then go to applications>all>market then force stop and clear data in it. After that go back to home screen then open the market. Sign in from there and then it will ask you to accept license agreement. Hit accept and you'll be in the market with the movies section available.
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Awesome, thank you so much for the info, worked like a charm!

Thanks for the heads up. Didn't know I was missing something until I got on here but glad you came to the rescue.

Don't need to remove your account. Just go to settings--> applications--> manage applications--> all and look for MARKET and clear cache and data. Close settings and reopen Market app and accept and that's it; fixed!!!

No Luck
Thanks for the suggestions. I have done that but same problem. There is still no movies section in market. I have the movies application though.
After the touchwiz update I had that movies section the market but after factory reset it was gone. This is very very strange to me.

are u in the states?
ull only see it there or if you have a VPN

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are u in the states?
ull only see it there or if you have a VPN
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No I am not in states however I use VPN.
I have Samsung galaxy S2 and with VPN the market works fine and even the movies app works fine with VPN.
I update my Tab 10.1 while I was connected with VPN. After the update I checked market and movies section was there. When I did the factory reset the movies section was not there. Now even though I connect the VPN it does not change anything in the market :-(
I have stop the market, clear data and cache and run the market app but it remains the same i.e. no movies section.
The movies app works fine on VPN though. I have rented a movies and I have watched it using the movies app.
Can you please tell me what is the market version (with movies section) after the touchwiz update? I don't remember exactly but I believe mine is 1.0.28 or something like that. I am away from home at the moment and I can not check the version for sure.

Is there a free vpn that i can use to access movies in market?
thanks,
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Has anyone got this working with a rooted tab using these steps? I want the best of both worlds, rooted tab AND Google Movies.... I saw that it was possible on Android Central, but I wasn't sure how that was possible - will try some things as well, I just wanted to get other people's experiences on this

Guys. The movie section in market working now. Shutting down market and clearing data & cache alone does not work. You also have to remove your google account from accounts & sync. Open market and it would ask you about google account. Add account and market would start working properly (with movie section). If you are using tab outside US then connect vpn before doing all this procedure.
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saadi703 said:
Guys. The movie section in market working now. Shutting down market and clearing data & cache alone does not work. You also have to remove your google account from accounts & sync. Open market and it would ask you about google account. Add account and market would start working properly (with movie section). If you are using tab outside US then connect vpn before doing all this procedure.
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Genius! Thanks for the tip. Solved my problem w/stock Touchwiz and no Movies in market.

Google Apps without rooting

I have got YouTube, Gmail, Currents and Google Maps working in the Kindle Fire HD without rooting. However Google Maps is not able to get the location from Wifi and is not able to sign in using the following process. I was unable to get GTalk (also attached) to work so far. The following process does not use GoogleServicesFramework as was used in the Gingerbread version of Kindle Fire.
I have modded the apps with high resolution 256x256 icons for display in Kindle Fire Carousel using the following guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495854
I have used You Tube 3.5.5 modded for HD playback. Alternatively this works with any of the APKs found in the following topic or built for Ice Cream Sandwich.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529715
1. Enable installation of applications from unknown sources in Kindle Fire Settings.
2. Install GoogleLoginService.apk.
3. Reboot.
4. Install the Google Apps.
5. Start YouTube. Sign In. It will take you to Google Account Manager to create/use existing Google credentials.
6. Same goes for other apps. In case sign in fails for any of the apps (except Maps/GTalk) drag down the Kindle Fire notification bar, click on the notification for "Permission requested....." and assign required permissions.
The files can be downloaded from here
https://www.box.com/s/kf6n8qpdncscnhmsz3ox
UPDATE: Thanks to alkemist80, installing GoogleServicesFramework.apk, rebooting & installing Talk from the following post, Talk works perfectly fine on Kindle Fire HD, unless it goes into sleep mode.
(If existing apps stop responding at this point, remove and reinstall them)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31814980&postcount=20

Wow! Guess I owe you one big time!
Followed the directions provided and viola!

abhijitxp said:
I have got YouTube, Gmail, Currents and Google Maps working in the Kindle Fire HD without rooting. However Google Maps is not able to get the location from Wifi and is not able to sign in using the following process. I was unable to get GTalk (also attached) to work so far. The following process does not use GoogleServicesFramework as was used in the Gingerbread version of Kindle Fire.
I have modded the apps with high resolution 256x256 icons for display in Kindle Fire Carousel using the following guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495854
I have used You Tube 3.5.5 modded for HD playback. Alternatively this works with any of the APKs found in the following topic or built for Ice Cream Sandwich.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529715
1. Enable installation of applications from unknown sources in Kindle Fire Settings.
2. Install GoogleLoginService.apk.
3. Reboot.
4. Install the Google Apps.
5. Start YouTube. Sign In. It will take you to Google Account Manager to create/use existing Google credentials.
6. Same goes for other apps. In case sign in fails for any of the apps (except Maps/GTalk) drag down the Kindle Fire notification bar, click on the notification for "Permission requested....." and assign required permissions.
The files can be downloaded from here
https://www.box.com/s/kf6n8qpdncscnhmsz3ox
Any help getting GTalk to work would be appreciated.
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When I first got my fire I side loaded Gtalk after installing GoogleServicesFramework and it worked fine. I just installed the GoogleLoginService.apk and was able to log in to Youtube just fine but that does seem to have broken Gtalk for me. The gtalk .apk I was using just hangs while trying to sign me in. The one you provided immediately force closes when I try to open it. It seems to be trying to log me in as "@youtube.com" as opposed to "@gmail.com". I have been able to get it to let me sign incorrectly with gmail/drive/youtube but I don't get a chance to choose my log in as gtalk tries to start right up. That is weird that is was working before and now it's not. Any ideas?
Update: Using a google maps .apk I had as opposed to the one you included I was able to get maps up and running flawlessly as well as Navigation with turn by turn. I was also able to get Google Drive working as well. Here is the maps .apk I used:https://www.dropbox.com/s/lh5a4h9i6ex3nhv/com.google.android.apps.maps-1.apk

Thanks for the maps apk, I will try it out. Well, multiple google/drive/youtube login thing never happened for me. Are you having both of these files - Gingerbread version of GoogleServicesFramework.apk and ICS version of GoogleLoginService.apk in the system? It could cause a problem. Otherwise doing a Clear Data on the GoogleLoginService (Google Account Manager) may clean up those ids.

drive
I can't get drive to.work. keeps telling me that drive has stopped. I installed it from 1mobile and app brain. Any suggestions?

abhijitxp said:
Thanks for the maps apk, I will try it out. Well, multiple google/drive/youtube login thing never happened for me. Are you having both of these files - Gingerbread version of GoogleServicesFramework.apk and ICS version of GoogleLoginService.apk in the system? It could cause a problem. Otherwise doing a Clear Data on the GoogleLoginService (Google Account Manager) may clean up those ids.
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I believe they are both ICS. Not to sound like a noob but what do you mean "clearing data ont he GoogleLoginService"?
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dmullens said:
I can't get drive to.work. keeps telling me that drive has stopped. I installed it from 1mobile and app brain. Any suggestions?
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I had just GoogleServiceFramework installed and it did not work. After I also installed GoogleLoginService from above I could able to get looged into Drive and able to access my files. I hope this helps.

Misfit77 said:
I had just GoogleServiceFramework installed and it did not work. After I also installed GoogleLoginService from above I could able to get looged into Drive and able to access my files. I hope this helps.
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Okay. Do you have a good source for that apk?
Also I believe he is referring to going into the Application Management settings area and clearing the data.
Thanks!

Thanks..

thanks! Has anyone tried side loading Google Calendars or Reader yet?
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Misfit77 said:
When I first got my fire I side loaded Gtalk after installing GoogleServicesFramework and it worked fine. [/URL]
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How did you get gtalk to work? Which apk did you use? My fire HD is rooted and GoogleServicesFramework installed and every time I open gtalk, it force closes immediately. I hardly even get a chance to see the error screen before it clears. Everything else I have installed works, play, maps and youtube.

dmullens said:
Okay. Do you have a good source for that apk?
Also I believe he is referring to going into the Application Management settings area and clearing the data.
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Thanks for that, I used this Google Drive .apk https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4p25wadossvw6h/Drive_1.1.4.12.apk
Thanks!
alkemist80 said:
How did you get gtalk to work? Which apk did you use? My fire HD is rooted and GoogleServicesFramework installed and every time I open gtalk, it force closes immediately. I hardly even get a chance to see the error screen before it clears. Everything else I have installed works, play, maps and youtube.
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For Gtalk I had only installed Googleservicesframework and I used this .apk https://www.dropbox.com/s/svq3ehtv4jdfrvn/Talk.apk
Good luck guys!

Misfit77 said:
Thanks for that, I used this Google Drive .apk https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4p25wadossvw6h/Drive_1.1.4.12.apk
Thanks!
For Gtalk I had only installed Googleservicesframework and I used this .apk https://www.dropbox.com/s/svq3ehtv4jdfrvn/Talk.apk
Good luck guys!
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Awesome!! Thanks so much, got Gtalk working now

alkemist80 said:
Awesome!! Thanks so much, got Gtalk working now
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You're welcome, now I just need to figure out how get gtalk back without breaking most of the other gapps.

Misfit77 said:
I had just GoogleServiceFramework installed and it did not work. After I also installed GoogleLoginService from above I could able to get looged into Drive and able to access my files. I hope this helps.
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Where did you get the apk for GoogleServiceFramework? I tried using one from my Nexus 7, but it would not install. Maybe because it is JB and I need an ICS version? Thanks.

Misfit77 said:
You're welcome, now I just need to figure out how get gtalk back without breaking most of the other gapps.
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Don't mean to hijack this thread and I don't think PM is working for me yet, but I just wanted to know if you had disconnection issues with Gtalk when the fire HD goes to sleep. Can't seem to figure this out.

tpeek said:
Where did you get the apk for GoogleServiceFramework? I tried using one from my Nexus 7, but it would not install. Maybe because it is JB and I need an ICS version? Thanks.
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I got it from here: http://mediafire.com/?zaumfwhraxcifqf

I'm still having trouble with Drive. Youtube works, maps work, currents work, and so does Google books. I would really like Drive.to work as well.
Here's what it does. I have the Google accounts all installed but not the framework. When I had the framework installed quite a few programs stopped working. Now when I install drive, about 2 seconds later I get a message that drive has stopped. Then I go to the home screen and then get another drive has stopped message. If I try running it, a few times it looks like it is doing something, but I end up with the same.message. sometimes when I true running it I just get the message.
Yes, I've shut down several times. Any advice is appreciated.

dmullens said:
I'm still having trouble with Drive. Youtube works, maps work, currents work, and so does Google books. I would really like Drive.to work as well. .....Yes, I've shut down several times. Any advice is appreciated.
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I had some apps working using only the OP instructions; that is I wasn't running the framework at all. When I loaded the framework (then rebooted) so I could run the rest, most previously working apps stopped working. I found that if I reinstalled (no need to uninstall) those apps via ES file explorer (it has supervisor permissions) they immediately started working. I did root last night, but have not messed with the system folder to load Play as there is no backup yet. Not sure root is needed though, nor if supervisor permissions is an issue. Every app works great now. Only weirdness is Maps shows my position about 500 yards off target, while mapQuest is spot on. No biggie, just strange.
Thanks to the OP and others for getting us this far.

Misfit77 said:
For Gtalk I had only installed Googleservicesframework and I used this .apk https://www.dropbox.com/s/svq3ehtv4jdfrvn/Talk.apk
Good luck guys!
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Well, this might be the Gingerbread version of Talk. The ICS versions I have are all > 2MB. The Gingerbread GoogleServicesFramework - Gingerbread Talk combination works fine in the ICS Kindle Fire HD but it messes up other Google Apps. Also I am unable to install any ICS version of GoogleServicesFramework yet. And the ICS version of Talk is unable to login without the Framework.

4.0.3 GoogleServicesFramework and Gtalk app from my EVO 3D. Both are running on my ROOTED kindle fire HD, no problems with google maps, play store or youtubeHD. However Gtalk does not seem to be supporting the front facing camera and causes the app to crash if you or someone else tries to connect via camera. Still trying to get gmail to function correctly, it will not push emails.
I seem to still be running into issues with Gtalk logging out while the device is in sleep mode.

Google now reminders down?

Is this down for anyone else? Generic ones work. Remind me to watch TV works. Remind me to watch TV @ 10:00 doesn't.
Thanks
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There is a problem, I cannot connect to Google Now. Also Google Services has been burning up my battery all day.
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Thanks. I heard there was some play store issues but nothing on this.
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Google search was just updated today..
Could be a bug.

I disabled Google Now a while ago, and wanted to try it again. Disabled, uninstalled and installed again Search, but now it says Google Now is not available and it doesn't show in Search Settings.
Weird. Is it on my end or something's up with Google?

bozint said:
I disabled Google Now a while ago, and wanted to try it again. Disabled, uninstalled and installed again Search, but now it says Google Now is not available and it doesn't show in Search Settings.
Weird. Is it on my end or something's up with Google?
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I had turned off Google Now yesterday due to it keeping my phone from sleeping since it could not connect because of server problems. I cleared the data/cache and launched again now all seems to be fine.

Birdsfan said:
I had turned off Google Now yesterday due to it keeping my phone from sleeping since it could not connect because of server problems. I cleared the data/cache and launched again now all seems to be fine.
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Do you have it as an option in Google Search > Settings? I only have Voice, Phone Search and Privacy & Accounts. Did the same steps as you, but nothing yet. Thought I'd give it some time to sync something...
Found this on a Google support forum, and maybe it really is Google's issue.
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/B_6n-3MiPEc[1-25-false]
I'm not from the US btw, but from Macedonia, SE Europe.

bozint said:
Do you have it as an option in Google Search > Settings? I only have Voice, Phone Search and Privacy & Accounts. Did the same steps as you, but nothing yet. Thought I'd give it some time to sync something...
Found this on a Google support forum, and maybe it really is Google's issue.
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/B_6n-3MiPEc[1-25-false]
I'm not from the US btw, but from Macedonia, SE Europe.
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First, I froze Google Search in Titanium Backup then when I unfroze it I cleared data.cache and relaunched this morning. For me Google Now is part of Google Search not sure that it would be any different for you being in Europe.

Birdsfan said:
First, I froze Google Search in Titanium Backup then when I unfroze it I cleared data.cache and relaunched this morning. For me Google Now is part of Google Search not sure that it would be any different for you being in Europe.
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Some friends have Google Now working, and they are all completely stock. I have CWM and fk installed. Waiting for 4.4 to come out soon, when I'll do full wipe and install via fastboot and see if it starts working when stock.
Thanks for the info and help though. Cheers!

Install latest youtube on FireOS 4.5.3 and be able to login WITHOUT ROOT(!!!)

I am running FireOS 4.5.3 on Fire HDX 7" and it is not (and never has been) rooted.
Settings > Applications > Apps from unknown sources is On
I have the file manager with zip support installed.
Uninstall any versions of the 5 apks mentioned below.
Download this zip file:
https://mega.co.nz/#!OItCnSSA!VqBqlbwUa3h5VR0bmIXmRVBq4UeYo5bhBmzmflml3Vk
Open or extract it and install the apks in this order:
account manager 4.0.3
framework 4.0.4
play services 7.3.29
playstore 4.3.10
youtube 10.16.53
Reboot the tablet.
Go to youtube and you should get that normal google account login screen.
Login and presto! There you have it latest youtube apk with sign in ability.
Hasn't crashed on me (yet), but play store does not work (I've tried a few versions).
Yes I am aware of that youtube app with the blue icon in the amazon app store but I wasn't satisfied with it.
I haven't tried any other google apps yet with this combo.
I really hope this works for others. I just spent the last 5-6 hours figuring this out and it's now nearly 2am.

works for me

Youtube works.
Not for playstore gmail.

Oh that's cool I'm glad it's worked for others.
I just wanted to give something back to this forum cause I've gone to it so many times myself.

Found a gmail apk that works

Don't want to burst your bubble, but someone already figured out how to get YouTube to work on unrooted devices (along with other Google apps): http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/themes-apps/how-to-install-gapps-root-t2954372

Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol

Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?

kkcheong said:
Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?
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Chrome should work regardless of framework (at least it did last time I tried). If not try Opera. Same underlying engine (Chromium) with a different skin.

mrw187 said:
Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol
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That command is for Google+ to work. It's not needed if you don't use G+. But at least you provided newer versions.

Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.

Burr11 said:
Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.
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Installing Google framework/services/store/etc on Fire OS is always a crap shoot as Amazon has its own set of conflicting services. Many get it to work (at least partially) while others experience problems. Installing framework/services on an unrooted device presents additional challenges....but also adds a layer of safety as you can typically install/experiment/uninstall without serious consequences. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer to your current situation; responding to "why is this happening?". You'll probably get it to work eventually with help from others.

That makes sense. I did manage to get Skype 5.1 working but anything after that breaks. Must have added a new feature since then that gets into that services conflict you mention. No luck with TuneIn, though I found an alternative for that.

Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.

myke66 said:
Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.
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If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).

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If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).
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I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.

myke66 said:
I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.
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If you are comfortable with 1moble (one of my favorite 'alternative' marketplaces) then many of the shortcomings inherent with the Amazon store can be mitigated. Chrome (more often Gmail) can get fussy without google services/framework. Opera is a nice alternative that utilizes the same core engine as Chrome. Gmail is a little tougher to directly emulate; plenty of alternatives if the Gmail app coughs up a fur ball (I happen to like Aquamail). You really don't need root but if you choose to do so Xposed framework adds a few nice touches that can further tame an HDX without compromising native functionality.
Hope it works out for you folks.

You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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lekofraggle said:
You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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That will work for now (thanks @lekofraggle for the tip) but be aware Google is quickly adapting apps to leverage capabilities introduced in newer builds of services framework. For now that appears confined to Maps and Google Now (eg: card features) and primarly targets Lollipop.

You are welcome. I know about the impending issue with Google play services. Hopefully they fix the issues soon. Google maps works for now but complains.
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Using CyanogenMod without google. Lyft stopped working.

I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, running CyanogenMod.
I don't use google play or any google products on the phone. The phone has no google account associated with it. I use MicroG (microg.org) and Needle (github.com/moosd/Needle)
I use Lyft to get around a lot. This was working fine until recently. Now as soon as I open the app, I see a big warning that it won't work until I update google play services, and then nothing. I can't get past that.

Gracehoper said:
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, running CyanogenMod.
I don't use google play or any google products on the phone. The phone has no google account associated with it. I use MicroG (microg.org) and Needle (github.com/moosd/Needle)
I use Lyft to get around a lot. This was working fine until recently. Now as soon as I open the app, I see a big warning that it won't work until I update google play services, and then nothing. I can't get past that.
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most Devs are using GCM push in their app which wont work without Play Services.I once tried to be Google Free but I couldn't