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How do I access the backup from the SDcard I used to root with nookmanager? I believe the backup is on a second partition that isn't visible or formatted for windows.

Classic773 said:
How do I access the backup from the SDcard I used to root with nookmanager? I believe the backup is on a second partition that isn't visible or formatted for windows.
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Windows doesn't like multiple partitions on removable drives so you can't get to it with a card reader on your PC (at least not easily). Boot your Nook from the NookManager SD card then connect to your PC and two drives will show up - the NookManager partition and the backup partition. This will be also be good troubleshooting for your problem with your rooted NST not working as a USB drive with Windows. If you still don't get USB drives showing up in Windows even when booted into NookManager then I would suspect a cable or connector problem.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468893&page=2 might be of relevance.

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Nook Glow Internal Files dump

Hi there,
I made a thread here, I bricked my nook because I erased important files without making a backup before.
Someone here in the forums told me to ask for a "nand dump", what is that I'm not too sure but I guess that he meant that I would need the same files that I erased but from someone else and then I should erase some personal data to avoid B&N store account conflicts.
Anyways, I haven't found any dump neither any directions to put it on my nook glow. Does anyone know where could I get such a thing?
vdguzman said:
Hi there,
I made a thread here, I bricked my nook because I erased important files without making a backup before.
Someone here in the forums told me to ask for a "nand dump", what is that I'm not too sure but I guess that he meant that I would need the same files that I erased but from someone else and then I should erase some personal data to avoid B&N store account conflicts.
Anyways, I haven't found any dump neither any directions to put it on my nook glow. Does anyone know where could I get such a thing?
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I'm stuck like you with a bricked glo-nook, and I haven't heard about that "nand dump".
Could you post again if you learn anything about it?
TIA
If you put noogie on an SD card and boot it it will serve the internal SD card (NAND) over USB.
There should be 7 visible partitions, only the first will get a drive letter in Windows.
Run Win32DiskImager and save that drive letter to a file.
Make sure that the saved result is about 1,9xx,xxx,xxx bytes.
Renate NST said:
If you put noogie on an SD card and boot it it will serve the internal SD card (NAND) over USB.
There should be 7 visible partitions, only the first will get a drive letter in Windows.
Run Win32DiskImager and save that drive letter to a file.
Make sure that the saved result is about 1,9xx,xxx,xxx bytes.
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mmmm, in my case I just see a drive letter in W7 and it's the noogie sdcard. No other partitions, Win32DiskImager can't see other partitions either.
But under the portable devices in device administration I can see two devices: boot (drive F:, the noogie sdcard) and G: (can't access)
Thanks for the info.
It sounds like you mashed the partition table on internal SD card.
See this thread about CWR, ADB and fdisk: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805936
Renate NST said:
If you put noogie on an SD card and boot it it will serve the internal SD card (NAND) over USB.
There should be 7 visible partitions, only the first will get a drive letter in Windows.
Run Win32DiskImager and save that drive letter to a file.
Make sure that the saved result is about 1,9xx,xxx,xxx bytes.
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I don't think I quite understand. If I run Noogie on my SD card then it will boot normally? No matter if I did what I did (erased important files, that's why it's bricked)?
Noogie on an SD card will boot even with the internal SD card vaporized.
This will give you the "Root Forever" screen and serve (whatever exists of) your internal SD card over USB.
Clockwork Recovery on an SD card will boot even with the internal SD card vaporized.
It can perform lots of operation from a menu on the screen.
It can also provide ADB over USB which is helpful for cleaning up stuff.
Renate NST said:
Noogie on an SD card will boot even with the internal SD card vaporized.
This will give you the "Root Forever" screen and serve (whatever exists of) your internal SD card over USB.
Clockwork Recovery on an SD card will boot even with the internal SD card vaporized.
It can perform lots of operation from a menu on the screen.
It can also provide ADB over USB which is helpful for cleaning up stuff.
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Alright I will try booting up with Noogie. Thanks for your answers, I just hope I can fix this device.
Thanks again.
vdguzman please keep me posted about any progress....I'm in the same situation.
BTW I've opened another thread here to keep track of everything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29597949
thanks
Renate NST said:
Noogie on an SD card will boot even with the internal SD card vaporized.
This will give you the "Root Forever" screen and serve (whatever exists of) your internal SD card over USB.
Clockwork Recovery on an SD card will boot even with the internal SD card vaporized.
It can perform lots of operation from a menu on the screen.
It can also provide ADB over USB which is helpful for cleaning up stuff.
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Noogie works, I tried to backup the image but I only did that AFTER my Nook had the problem so backing up with Noogie won't do it.
Glownooter WORKS but I don't know what to do to boot it normally. With Noogie I'm stuck on Rooted Forever and while Windows recognizes the nook, it's empty, completely empty.
I don't know what's ADB.
vdguzman said:
I don't know what's ADB.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/BN_Nook_Simple_Touch/Installing_ADB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Android_Debug_Bridge
Renate NST said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/BN_Nook_Simple_Touch/Installing_ADB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Android_Debug_Bridge
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Thanks for clearing that up
But what I'm trying to know is what kind of method will bring my Nook back to life, I'm no expert but I can manage if I'm told at least what will theoretically work.

[Q] Rooted:Where is my backed up image? How to get my lost sd card space back

So I am rooted w Nookmanager. I followed the instructions to the letter. I couldn’t be happier with the rooted Nook.
Since Im still a n00b at this..i have a few questions:
1. Which is the back up file of the original Nook, so that I can transfer it to my laptop and save it for any emergencies.
2. Also , my sd card (16gb) is only showing a fraction of the space when I insert into the sd card reader of my laptop. How can I get its full 16gb space back. Do I need to reformat it? If so, how and what software can I use?
3. I have some ebooks already saved in the My Files section on the internal hard drive of Nook. These books don’t show up on mantano reader (or other 3rd party reader apps I have installed).
a. I want to save my ebooks in a folder from where I can access them through Nook native reader as well as any third party readers I have installed.
Thanks for your help…. And long live XDA
sLiKK said:
So I am rooted w Nookmanager. I followed the instructions to the letter. I couldn’t be happier with the rooted Nook.
Since Im still a n00b at this..i have a few questions:
1. Which is the back up file of the original Nook, so that I can transfer it to my laptop and save it for any emergencies.
2. Also , my sd card (16gb) is only showing a fraction of the space when I insert into the sd card reader of my laptop. How can I get its full 16gb space back. Do I need to reformat it? If so, how and what software can I use?
3. I have some ebooks already saved in the My Files section on the internal hard drive of Nook. These books don’t show up on mantano reader (or other 3rd party reader apps I have installed).
a. I want to save my ebooks in a folder from where I can access them through Nook native reader as well as any third party readers I have installed.
Thanks for your help…. And long live XDA
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Step 1. Insert microSD and connect your nook via USB.
Step 2. In windows explorer there will be a drive labeled backup. That's the partition Nookmanager created on the SD card.
Step 3. Open it up and copy the 2 files that are in there.
Getting your space back (after you copied off your backup):
Step 1. Start menu, search "partition", you should find windows partition manager in the control panel.
Step 2. Find the SD card which is now divided in 2 partitions, delete the partitions
Step 3. Right mouse click and create new simple partition, fat32.
I used HP USB Manger to reclaim the SD card space back by reforming it.
To get your backup file, please read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040351
Good luck.
jun127 said:
Step 1. Insert microSD and connect your nook via USB.
Step 2. In windows explorer there will be a drive labeled backup. That's the partition Nookmanager created on the SD card.
Step 3. Open it up and copy the 2 files that are in there.
Getting your space back (after you copied off your backup):
Step 1. Start menu, search "partition", you should find windows partition manager in the control panel.
Step 2. Find the SD card which is now divided in 2 partitions, delete the partitions
Step 3. Right mouse click and create new simple partition, fat32.
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THanks.
I used Minitool Partition to format, delete the partition and then create a new partition . But in the process, I now have only 14.8GB. I lose 1.2GB. My original card was 16GB. is there anything I could do to get the lost space?
sLiKK said:
THanks.
I used Minitool Partition to format, delete the partition and then create a new partition . But in the process, I now have only 14.8GB. I lose 1.2GB. My original card was 16GB. is there anything I could do to get the lost space?
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That's the full size. A "16gb" SD card is actually about 14.83gb because SD cards are sold by the bit. About 15.9 billion bits in a 16 "gb" card, divide that by 1024 three times and you get 14.83 something gb, and that's how windows see's it. Don't worry, you didn't lose anything.
jun127 said:
That's the full size. A "16gb" SD card is actually about 14.83gb because SD cards are sold by the bit. About 15.9 billion bits in a 16 "gb" card, divide that by 1024 three times and you get 14.83 something gb, and that's how windows see's it. Don't worry, you didn't lose anything.
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Oh..okay...thanks alot.
jun127 said:
Step 1. Insert microSD and connect your nook via USB.
Step 2. In windows explorer there will be a drive labeled backup. That's the partition Nookmanager created on the SD card.
Step 3. Open it up and copy the 2 files that are in there.
Getting your space back (after you copied off your backup):
Step 1. Start menu, search "partition", you should find windows partition manager in the control panel.
Step 2. Find the SD card which is now divided in 2 partitions, delete the partitions
Step 3. Right mouse click and create new simple partition, fat32.
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Hiya, I know a bit of time has passed, but I'm having problems finding my stock back-up image I made.
I've followed the instructions as above, but explorer doesn't show the backup partition at all. I just have 'Nookmanager' and 'Nook' (the internal memory). I'm connected to the sd card through the nook simple touch (i.e. not through an sd card reader).
Any ideas how I can access the hidden back-up partition?
Many thanks in advance.
tooplanx said:
Hiya, I know a bit of time has passed, but I'm having problems finding my stock back-up image I made.
I've followed the instructions as above, but explorer doesn't show the backup partition at all. I just have 'Nookmanager' and 'Nook' (the internal memory). I'm connected to the sd card through the nook simple touch (i.e. not through an sd card reader).
Any ideas how I can access the hidden back-up partition?
Many thanks in advance.
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I don't think the Nook will present second and subsequent partitions on the SD card for USB mounting. You'll need a memory card reader; a cheap one from eBay will do the job.
The files are backup.full.gz and backup.full.md5 in the NookBackup filesystem.
cowbutt said:
I don't think the Nook will present second and subsequent partitions on the SD card for USB mounting. You'll need a memory card reader; a cheap one from eBay will do the job.
The files are backup.full.gz and backup.full.md5 in the NookBackup filesystem.
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I have a similar problem in copying the two Nook Backup files to my PC. Using a standalone SD card reader, I can see the 1.78 GB NookBackup partition in my MiniTool Partition Manager and in XP's Disk Management, but I cannot assign a drive label. The 64 MB NookManager partition is assigned a drive label, but NookBackup partition shows no drive assigned.
Since I cannot see the two backup files in Windows Explorer, how can I copy them to the PC?
Joydeck said:
I have a similar problem in copying the two Nook Backup files to my PC. Using a standalone SD card reader, I can see the 1.78 GB NookBackup partition in my MiniTool Partition Manager and in XP's Disk Management, but I cannot assign a drive label. The 64 MB NookManager partition is assigned a drive label, but NookBackup partition shows no drive assigned.
Since I cannot see the two backup files in Windows Explorer, how can I copy them to the PC?
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http://superuser.com/questions/61487/usb-sticks-and-multiple-partitions looks useful.
cowbutt said:
I don't think the Nook will present second and subsequent partitions on the SD card for USB mounting. You'll need a memory card reader; a cheap one from eBay will do the job.
The files are backup.full.gz and backup.full.md5 in the NookBackup filesystem.
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I've tried both with a card reader and through the plugged in Nook. No joy either way. I looked at the card in Win7's Partition Manager and although it shows the extra space, it doesn't show it as being active or labelled or anything.
When I did the backup it took ages (nearly 30mins) and I was beginning to think it was stuck or something, but then it said it was completed.
I'm wondering whether it actually failed to create a backup. No sign of a backup or backup partition any where.
I think I might just format the card and hope I don't get any problems. Everything seems to be working ok.
Is it possible just to download someone else's backup or get the firmware off B&N again if I need it?
tooplanx said:
Is it possible just to download someone else's backup or get the firmware off B&N again if I need it?
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No, your /rom partition is unique to your device.
tooplanx said:
I've tried both with a card reader and through the plugged in Nook. No joy either way. I looked at the card in Win7's Partition Manager and although it shows the extra space, it doesn't show it as being active or labelled or anything.
When I did the backup it took ages (nearly 30mins) and I was beginning to think it was stuck or something, but then it said it was completed.
I'm wondering whether it actually failed to create a backup. No sign of a backup or backup partition any where.
I think I might just format the card and hope I don't get any problems. Everything seems to be working ok.
Is it possible just to download someone else's backup or get the firmware off B&N again if I need it?
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The memory card reader won't help as windows won't allow you to mount anything other than the first partition on removeable media. What you need to do is boot your Nook from the NookManager SD card and then plug it into your PC. You will then get two new disks in Windows that each show a single partition. The first disk will be the 64MB NookManager partition and the second disk will be the NookManager backup partition that takes up the rest of your SD card. If for some reason Windows doesn't automatically assign a drive letter go into the Windows partition manager and assign one. The key is you must be booted into NookManager. It won't work if you are booted up normally to read books.
straygecko said:
The memory card reader won't help as windows won't allow you to mount anything other than the first partition on removeable media...
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Works well.
Having copied the original Nook partition to Windows, could I also backup the rooted partition from the NookManager backup menu? I would also copy the new folders on the SD Card. Or is there another way?
Joydeck said:
Works well.
Having copied the original Nook partition to Windows, could I also backup the rooted partition from the NookManager backup menu? I would also copy the new folders on the SD Card. Or is there another way?
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Yes. Note that NookManager's 'Backup' function will overwrite any pre-existing backup on the NookManager partition, so transfer your backup of your stock firmware first before you make a backup of your rooted firmware.
straygecko said:
The memory card reader won't help as windows won't allow you to mount anything other than the first partition on removeable media. What you need to do is boot your Nook from the NookManager SD card and then plug it into your PC. You will then get two new disks in Windows that each show a single partition. The first disk will be the 64MB NookManager partition and the second disk will be the NookManager backup partition that takes up the rest of your SD card. If for some reason Windows doesn't automatically assign a drive letter go into the Windows partition manager and assign one. The key is you must be booted into NookManager. It won't work if you are booted up normally to read books.
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Ah... that sounds like it might work! Unfortunately, after spending several hours messing around with the sd card and the nook trying to make the other partition readable using partition manager and EasUS, I gave up and just formatted the SD card so that it was usable again. I did a data recovery sweep on the other hidden partition before-hand and managed to retrieve a .gz file of approx 49MB. I presume that is the back-up, but I couldn't retrieve the other file.
Oh well, fingers crossed I don't have problems :fingers-crossed:. At least the Nook was very cheap (£29) so it's not the end of the world if it things go bad.
Thanks for your help. :good:
tooplanx said:
Ah... that sounds like it might work! Unfortunately, after spending several hours messing around with the sd card and the nook trying to make the other partition readable using partition manager and EasUS, I gave up and just formatted the SD card so that it was usable again. I did a data recovery sweep on the other hidden partition before-hand and managed to retrieve a .gz file of approx 49MB. I presume that is the back-up, but I couldn't retrieve the other file.
Oh well, fingers crossed I don't have problems :fingers-crossed:. At least the Nook was very cheap (£29) so it's not the end of the world if it things go bad.
Thanks for your help. :good:
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49MB sounds a couple of hundred meg shy of a backup. You can try unzipping it with something like 7zip to see if its any good and worth keeping around but I doubt it. The other file you didn't recover is just an md5 of the backup and isn't necessary other than as a confirmation of a good backup.
You should take another backup of your Nook as it is now and keep it. That way you'll have a backup of your ROM partition so if things ever go too far south you'll be able to use someone elses full backup and then replace the ROM partition with your devices information.
What straygecko said. 49MB sounds too small, and even a non-pristine backup is worth having.

[Q] Rooted Nook Simple Touch, Help Partitioning micro SD card

Hi! Successfully rooted my Nook ST using Nook Manager, except I used a 32 GB micro SD card to do the rooting. After rooting, I ended up with two partitions on the SD card, Nook (239 MB) and Nook Manager (62.9 MB). I was wondering what I need to do to be able to utilize the rest of the space on the card? The reason I bought a 32 GB card was so I could store all my sideloaded books there, and now I find I'm just limited to the space/partitions showing up when I connect the nook via USB.
You need to repartition your card.
Partition Magic can do that.
If you want to use multiple partitions on the SD card (like 2 x 16 GB) you might want to look at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2184495
Renate NST said:
You need to repartition your card.
Partition Magic can do that.
If you want to use multiple partitions on the SD card (like 2 x 16 GB) you might want to look at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2184495
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Thanks, will download a copy of Partition Magic later. I really am completely clueless when it comes to programming though. In fact, I'm only here because the folks at mobileread told me I'd probably have better luck having my question/s answered here than there. So just to confirm, I can repartition the drive using partition magic so I'll have one extra partition for the books I want to sideload, and I'm good to go already when I re-insert the SD card into the Nook? Or do I have to attempt the code that you gave in the thread you linked?
If you want to have a single FAT partition on your SD card you can do that without much change.
It comes down to whether you want to be able to pull the SD card and plug it into random desktops and things.
If you want to have multiple partitions or ext3 partitions you will have to use the new vold in the link above.
if used windows 7,8. Insert a memory card into the card reader. Go to cmd(administrator mode) and run command:
Diskpart
List Disk
Select Disk 1 (#select sdcard)
clean (#clean partition sdcard)
create partition primary
active
format fs=fat32 quick
assign (#run command if not view sdcard in mycomputer )
Renate, I tried to repartition my SD card, but got a "disk is not formatted, do you want to format it now?" message. So I had no choice but to do a data recovery using EaseUs Partition Master first, then went ahead and clicked format now. Then I tried using Minitool Partition Wizard (couldn't find a free version of Partition Magic) to create new partitions in the formatted SD card so that the NookManager partition would be larger (27 GB) while the NookBackup partition would be 2 GB. Except that I can't seem to create any new partitions at all. And I also have no idea how to restore the data I'd backed up earlier either.
Sorry, I missed seeing this come up when you posted it.
When your Nook asks you if you want to format you should say "No!".
It could be that it misidentified the situation.
In any case, you want to look closer before formatting anything.
Here's a gotcha.
If you are using ext3 and the internal clock has reset itself then the last mount will be in the future.
That makes things angry. Check that the date/time on the Nook is correct.
You can use gparted to give the card the partition layout you need (i.e. first NookManager partition is big, second NookBackup partition is only large enough to hold a backup), then write the first partition from NookManager.img into first partition of the card (you need to do something roughly similar to this. Then you can use gparted to set the "boot" flag on the first partition and use the card to backup&root your Nook. Then remove the "boot" flag, and keep using the card for storage (it's a bit messy to have both user&app files AND NookManager boot files in the same place, but if you only have one card, then this is inevitable - i haven't found a way to mount the second or the third partitions from the card). The card will act as normal storage device when flag is not set, and as NookManager bootable card when flag is set.

[Q] Basic question: Rooted with NookManager, what should I do with my SD card?

Hi,
I know this is fairly basic, but I'm really confused about what I should do with my SD card now.
I've read quite a few threads about different ways of rooting nook device, and so far I found NookManager is the most easy and understandable one (I'm a beginner ) And it is running perfectly on my Nook 2 at the moment.
For most of the root methods, they say one should use 'SD Formatter' to format the disk (i.e SD card) if the user is happy with the ROM, as in their methods the user should have already backed up before hand on the PC. However with NookManager, I did the backup during the root process in my SD card as instructed.
And I have realised that 'My file' is under the 'NookManager' disk, so I imagine everything should keep as it is in the SD card?
But I also notice that my 4GB SD card shrank to about 63MB when I wrote 'NookManager.img' in my card..
Plus NookManager loading page appears every time when I reboot if the SD card is inserted.
So I'm really confused now, could anyone help?
Many thanks !!!
To anyone as new as me and has the some question:
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By #2 straygecko from NookManager thread:
A 2GB SD card is fine. Even a 1GB SD card would work if you don't have a huge amount of books already on your NST. NookManager is a 64MB image so when you flash it you'll only see a 64MB SD card. Boot your NST with it and when you make a backup NookManager will make a second partition on the SD card using up the rest of the space on the card and put the backup there. Because Windows won't see the second partition with the backup on the SD card once the backup is complete and before you exit NookManager use your usb/microusb cable to plug your NST into your PC. You'll see two drives appear on your PC - Nook Manager and Nook Backup. Copy the backup off the Nook Backup drive. Eject the two drives on the PC then go ahead and root the NST and exit NookManager.
At this point if you put you put your SD card into your NST you will only see the 64MB NookManager partition. If none of the apps you want to load require an SD card you could just leave the SD card out of the NST and you'll still have room for books on the internal memory. But I found a lot of apps require the SD card and an SD card gives you room for oodles of books if you need it. If you don't have another SD card to use in your NST then you'll need to repartition and format your SD card. Put the SD card into your PC card reader and use a partition manager (Minitool Partition Wizard, Paragon Partition Manager 12 Free or your favorite) to delete the two partitions on the SD card and create a new FAT32 partition that takes up the whole card. To make my life easier if I need to go back to the backup I made a drive image of the SD card before I repartitioned it. Put the SD card back in your NST and you're good to go.
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Many thanks!
Read through the NookManager thread for your answer.
straygecko said:
Read through the NookManager thread for your answer.
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Thank you. I have just read it again. Obviously I missed out your important post when I first read it, as the thread is fairly long
I got my answer now, thanks again.
My 2 cents:
After many problems with the dates of files on the SD card mysteriously changing by a few integral hours I decided that I had had enough with FAT systems.
(FAT stores timestamps in local time, a recipe for anomalies.)
For many, this might not be an issue, but if you are using things that sync using timestamps, it will be.
See: ADB sync utility - adbsync
My solution is to use the ext3 filesystem on an SD card.
See: vold, using ext3 on SD, USB drives

Can someone tell me how to do a full noogie backup on Nook Glowlight (no SD card)

I have a Nook Glowlight (white) that has no sd card slot. The backup instructions I've found on here all seem to use a removeable sd card.
Can someone point me to step by step instructions on how to do a complete noogie backup of all 9 partitions http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.co....jpg?key=vHfXWBo_W6THEajnqbc9kQ&ts=1429887776 a Nook Glowlight? I'm going to try some partition modifications, but I want to be able to restore to the backup image if I dork it up.
Many thanks.
You need to have the internal SD card to present itself over UMS (USB Mass Storage).
I'd use omaplink to get noogie working.
noogie mounts the entire volume.
Once you have the volume visible there are any number of tools that can copy it back and forth.
Win32DiskImager is one, but I object to a simple utility that is 14 Megs because it uses QuickTime!
I prefer (obviously) my own sdcard.exe command line utility which weighs in at 70k.
omaplink and sdcard are in the signature.

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