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Will T-Mobile's upcoming LTE affect the Nexus 4?

Hi, I hope you're well.
Please allow me to ask my stupid question of the day.
I am a T-Mobile post-paid customer on contract, and I am using a LG Nexus 4. T-Mobile will likely start having LTE soon, so I was wondering if that will affect the Nexus 4 in any way, positively or negatively (probably not negatively, but as I stated, this is a stupid question).
Thanks!
Vic

probably not. lte capabilities were disabled in the .48 baseband which came with the 4.2.2 update.

Hard to say, as the Nexus 4 does not "officially" have LTE. Google disabled the limited LTE connectivity in the 4.2.2 update as the N4 was not approved by the FCC for LTE.
Unless Google refiles, I wouldn't expect any official LTE updates.
But, that doesn't mean you can't try out the older radios (that still have LTE) as some people have had success using them (no sensor issues or voice/sound issues).

Thanks for the replies!
I'm aware of the LTE capabilities being disabled by Google. Even if I use the older radios, will the LTE speed be significantly faster than the default HSPA+ speeds I've been experiencing?
Thanks!
Vic

VicVicVicx said:
Thanks for the replies!
I'm aware of the LTE capabilities being disabled by Google. Even if I use the older radios, will the LTE speed be significantly faster than the default HSPA+ speeds I've been experiencing?
Thanks!
Vic
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yes..

My N4 is being returned, but I did get 16mbit down yesterday on HSPA+, which is amazing to me considering my home caps out at like 12 I think. Frankly, considering the marginal real-world gain you would see on LTE, I think the phone is probably better off not using that LTE antenna.

cesar521 said:
yes..
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Not necessarily if you were me and getting 29mbps down and 9 up on H+ then you really wouldn't tell too much of a difference esp since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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XupModz said:
since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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Please please please stop saying that.
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chrisrozon said:
Please please please stop saying that.
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You can't handle the truth
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cesar521 said:
yes..
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Great contribution. The LTE speed test someone posted the other day from T-Mobile LTE was significantly slower than my HSPA+:42 speeds in Chicago. The upload was faster but download was not.
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Maybe they will introduce the nexus 4lte in the Google io.... Which is what all of us have now
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joshnichols189 said:
Great contribution. The LTE speed test someone posted the other day from T-Mobile LTE was significantly slower than my HSPA+:42 speeds in Chicago. The upload was faster but download was not.
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Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.

RavenII said:
Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
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You have to use the new apn, "Fast.T-Mobile.com" and change ipv4 to ipv4/ipv6. But the rest of the apn is the same as epc.tmobile.com.

RavenII said:
Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
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42 is the theoretical throughput, once you account for real world inefficiencies and data reserved for network services, 22 is a fantastic result.
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It really depends your area, on average lte will be faster especially upload. In most major cities LTE will probably smoke HSPA. The most I ever hit with HSPA was 18down 2up and lte was 56down 35 up in Toronto.
HSPA is no slouch though, just the upload is rough. If you upload a lot LTE is a must.
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XupModz said:
Not necessarily if you were me and getting 29mbps down and 9 up on H+ then you really wouldn't tell too much of a difference esp since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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LTE pings are usually low. so stuff pops up faster on the phone compared to hspa+. You would not see much difference when downloading something because the down speeds aren't too different. As far as picture uploads are concerned, they will happen much faster w/ LTE.

Since T-Mobile will be launching lte

Will the nexus 4 be able to get it ?
Actually I set up the new lte APN
I forgot where i got it from but
I went into phone info
(*#*#4636#*#*)
And took the lte setting.
I did this bc I'm in a testing city(NYC)
I noticed a slight increase in data speed.
But can anyone confirm this
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Anyone in NYC ?
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Changing the network mode is not changing the APN. You need to go to APN settings and change the name to fast.tmobile.com and the APN protocol to IPv4/IPv6 and save it. Then do speed tests to confirm if you're getting LTE.
T-Mobile users have reported getting LTE in NYC but the network kicks them off about 15 mins later.
Yes the Nexus 4 will receive LTE.
APN setting can be found at Settings/More/Mobile networks/Access point names
Don't forget to be on a .33 or lower radio
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Would this be considered lte?
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jaestreetss said:
Would this be considered lte?
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By speed alone, nope. I've personally seen 25 down and 3 or so up on HSPA+.

No. When you go to results it should say LTE as your network. Your icon on top should say 4G too.
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Eddy130306 said:
Changing the network mode is not changing the APN. You need to go to APN settings and change the name to fast.tmobile.com and the APN protocol to IPv4/IPv6 and save it. Then do speed tests to confirm if you're getting LTE.
T-Mobile users have reported getting LTE in NYC but the network kicks them off about 15 mins later.
Yes the Nexus 4 will receive LTE.
APN setting can be found at Settings/More/Mobile networks/Access point names
Don't forget to be on a .33 or lower radio
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Hi eddy, could you clarify this? I was under the impression that the Nexus 4 doesn't have an LTE radio or something and every review video I watch says that "no LTE" is a downside along with the no microSD card and removable battery.
Are you saying that there will be a Nexus 4 LTE version released soon? (This is all for Tmobile btw)

kettlecorn said:
Hi eddy, could you clarify this? I was under the impression that the Nexus 4 doesn't have an LTE radio or something and every review video I watch says that "no LTE" is a downside along with the no microSD card and removable battery.
Are you saying that there will be a Nexus 4 LTE version released soon? (This is all for Tmobile btw)
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No no there won't be an LTE Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 is already LTE, but you must be on android 4.2.1 or have root. Correct that there is no expandable memory or removable battery. Most reviews say that it doesn't have LTE either because they made the review before it was discovered or simply chose not to say because its not official and The N4 only supports carriers with LTE that have band 4 and that is only a few (T-Mobile and some Canadian carriers).
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For LTE, you can have the newest version of Android, but you must flash an older radio that still had LTE enabled. Then, you need to do what other people suggested, change your APN and radio settings.

Honestly I think HSPA+ is quite fast already. LTE is faster but do you really really really need it? It's cool to have and all. Most folks don't even know what LTE is or what it stands for. They just think "Oh it's super fast! I can download cat videos at super speeds!"
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scream4cheese said:
Honestly I think HSPA+ is quite fast already. LTE is faster but do you really really really need it? It's cool to have and all. Most folks don't even know what LTE is or what it stands for. They just think "Oh it's super fast! I can download cat videos at super speeds!"
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I found this post funny because your avatar is Jerry the mouse :good::laugh:
But LTE is just another feature that tmo released. Nothing more than faster speeds and faster killing of your battery on LTE. LOL

I am content with HSPA+ for downloads but LTE would come in handy for uploads which are quite slow on HSPA+.
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Eddy130306 said:
No no there won't be an LTE Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 is already LTE, but you must be on android 4.2.1 or have root. Correct that there is no expandable memory or removable battery. Most reviews say that it doesn't have LTE either because they made the review before it was discovered or simply chose not to say because its not official and The N4 only supports carriers with LTE that have band 4 and that is only a few (T-Mobile and some Canadian carriers).
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Oh gotcha thanks. Yeah that's really cool for Tmobile customers I guess since it may future proof the device a little bit more now that TMobile is getting ready to roll out their LTE sometime in the next year. (or few months if what they claim is truth)

kettlecorn said:
Oh gotcha thanks. Yeah that's really cool for Tmobile customers I guess since it may future proof the device a little bit more now that TMobile is getting ready to roll out their LTE sometime in the next year. (or few months if what they claim is truth)
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They're already rolling LTE as we are speaking. We should see more cities with LTE by the end of this year. They won't stop until the cover the whole country. AT&T, Sprint and Verizon are still rolling out LTE. Lol
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(Q)What radio is the S4??

Last night i was at the movies with my girl that has a tmobile S4
And i always dont get signal with my nexus 4 at this theater but she had great signal and internet average was 5mbs
Is ther a way to flash that radio?
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No, different hardware.
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steviewevie said:
No, different hardware.
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So, i guess better hardware?
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Are you on T-Mobile also? My wife's HTC One X also does better signal wise than my N4 in certain areas. I assume it is because her phone is a LTE phone and mine is not. We are with AT&T, and being on the LTE network vs HSPA is like night and day.

fernandezhjr said:
Are you on T-Mobile also? My wife's HTC One X also does better signal wise than my N4 in certain areas. I assume it is because her phone is a LTE phone and mine is not. We are with AT&T, and being on the LTE network vs HSPA is like night and day.
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Yea we both have tmobile phones.
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No you can't flash her s4 radio. They're two different phones.
What kind of question is that? That's like saying, oh my brothers computer is faster, can I flash the bios for his motherboard?
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Raul69.atl said:
Yea we both have tmobile phones.
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So, then what you need to do is get you a true LTE phone or borrow hers.

fernandezhjr said:
So, then what you need to do is get you a true LTE phone or borrow hers.
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Theoretically speaking, the nexus 4 is a unofficial lte device and it does work on t mobile assuming that it's in the users area. He needs to check the lte thread for more information on how to use it on 4.2.2
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zephiK said:
Theoretically speaking, the nexus 4 is a unofficial lte device and it does work on t mobile assuming that it's in the users area. He needs to check the lte thread for more information on how to use it on 4.2.2
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No, you are wrong about official, which is why it is disabled by default. I know it will work in limited areas, but it doesn't have the FCC approval to be sold as an LTE phone. Officially it is not a LTE phone, even though it has some hidden limited capability.

fernandezhjr said:
No, you are wrong about official, which is why it is disabled by default. I know it will work in limited areas, but it doesn't have the FCC approval to be sold as an LTE phone. Officially it is not a LTE phone, even though it has some hidden limited capability.
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No, you`re wrong! N4 fully supports LTE on band 4- T-mobile USA, Canadian carriers! There are people that have been using it for a while! It`s not FCC approved -YES, but it works as any other LTE phone!

fernandezhjr said:
No, you are wrong about official, which is why it is disabled by default. I know it will work in limited areas, but it doesn't have the FCC approval to be sold as an LTE phone. Officially it is not a LTE phone, even though it has some hidden limited capability.
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His post says unofficial and he clearly hasn't edited it so you just misread the post, you're both saying the same thing essentially.

Nigeldg said:
His post says unofficial and he clearly hasn't edited it so you just misread the post, you're both saying the same thing essentially.
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Ahh yes, you are correct. Lol. Sorry zephiK. I did misread your post.
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No, you`re wrong! N4 fully supports LTE on band 4- T-mobile USA, Canadian carriers! There are people that have been using it for a while! It`s not FCC approved -YES, but it works as any other LTE phone!
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That's what I said.

BigDig said:
No, you`re wrong! N4 fully supports LTE on band 4- T-mobile USA, Canadian carriers!
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"Can be made to work with LTE" is a very very different thing from "fully supports LTE".
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ahandlen003 said:
Not to be redundant to other posts but in reality its not different. "fully supports" can be classified as working on networks that have lte which the nexus 4 does. Just because we have to change a few settings doesnt mean it doesnt fully support lte. I get full 4g everywhere i live. I consider that to be fully supportive.
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I guess that your definition of "fully supported" is very different to mine.
My definition wouldn't include the possibility of having to stick to old radios/ROMs to make a feature work, and it would include the possibility of ensuring Google help if there was a problem with that feature.
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Well I bought the s4, now I have signal there lol
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No 3G data service during voice call????

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258959&referrerid=5287531
So i found this thread that says S3 and Evo LTE only works data and voice.
is there way to work data and voice same time?
i do a lot calls and i need to check mails and etc.

Not on 3G with the S4, however, voice and LTE work if you have LTE service in your area.

FanOfSkynyrd said:
Not on 3G with the S4, however, voice and LTE work if you have LTE service in your area.
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sigh i do get 4g lte around my area, but not all.
i just don get it!!!! s3 works but not s4...
also do you get lost data or drop call when 3g to lte, or lte to 3g convent?

Wifi and LTE work, not 3g.
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Yea I am rooted on my I9505 but have not figured out how to get access or if there is a way. Ugh sucks figured sprint would at least keep the things that kept me with the galaxy line..it is to the point if you want to enjoy your phone you have to root.
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macgpit said:
Yea I am rooted on my I9505 but have not figured out how to get access or if there is a way. Ugh sucks figured sprint would at least keep the things that kept me with the galaxy line..it is to the point if you want to enjoy your phone you have to root.
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What the heck are you talking about. You're on an international phone. So it shouldn't matter if sprint can't do voice and 3g at the same time.
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daniel4653 said:
What the heck are you talking about. You're on an international phone. So it shouldn't matter if sprint can't do voice and 3g at the same time.
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I drive semi it is more productive when you can look up street view roads that may have weight limits height restrictions as you are calling the company letting then know about when you will arrive.we as drivers only have a certain amount of time to drive a day.thus makes my day that much more productive. Ten extra mins could be whether I make it to the next town or not.

macgpit said:
I drive semi it is more productive when you can look up street view roads that may have weight limits height restrictions as you are calling the company letting then know about when you will arrive.we as drivers only have a certain amount of time to drive a day.thus makes my day that much more productive. Ten extra mins could be whether I make it to the next town or not.
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That's not what I am talking about. I don't see why its a concern to you if by the look of it, you don't have a sprint gs4. If you want to be on the internet and phone at the same time. Stay with a gs3.
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I do have a gs4 I just passed down my gs3. I never thought they would lose that feature... and I am a sprint customer..
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macgpit said:
I do have a gs4 I just passed down my gs3. I never thought they would lose that feature... and I am a sprint customer..
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Well dude say you are on sprint. Lol
You said you were on your "rooted i9505". Sprint is SPH-L720. That's why you had me confused.
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Nexus 4 or original nexus 4

[Q] What's the difference in ROM and can we flash at ROM from those 2 ?
Thank you
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im confused about this too. I just got my phone from the play store and not sure what development section to use of both?

you can flash a rom from either. here is the difference between android and original development http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612

Bionik_kaos said:
[Q] What's the difference in ROM and can we flash at ROM from those 2
Thank you
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ROORnNUGZ said:
im confused about this too. I just got my phone from the play store and not sure what development section to use of both?
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Maybe this will help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982483

sasa_gm said:
Maybe this will help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982483
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That doesn't help but I'm just going to guess I can use both development sections and see what happens

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you can flash a rom from either. here is the difference between android and original development http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
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Thank you .... I come from xperia and gs3 and I must say in speed and graphic this phone kicks ass in a big way Lol.... But never had to deal with 2 different development thread for the same phone ..... Thank you for clarifying this
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I'm with Koodo and I have lte and 4g in my area so I guess I can use baseband .33 and get lte also then right ?
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Bionik_kaos said:
I'm with Koodo and I have lte and 4g in my area so I guess I can use baseband .33 and get lte also then right ?
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.33 yes, or .27 too, but only if they support band 4 lte. most dont support band 4, its new. tmobile supports it, a few canadian companies support it, and att in very very limitted lications support it. i have a feeling that koodo doesnt support it.

simms22 said:
.33 yes, or .27 too, but only if they support band 4 lte. most dont support band 4, its new. tmobile supports it, a few canadian companies support it, and att in very very limitted lications support it. i have a feeling that koodo doesnt support it.
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I had htc8x before and data was lte and was lte but data and vo-lte might be different ?
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Bionik_kaos said:
I had htc8x before and data was lte and was lte but data and vo-lte might be different ?
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just like any other radio, there exists many different frequencies. your htc could have been made to support your lte frequency, band 4 isnt very common. call and ask your provider if they support band 4. if they say they dont know what that is, then they dont support it.

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you can flash a rom from either. here is the difference between android and original development http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
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Thanks man. That's exactly what I was looking for

simms22 said:
just like any other radio, there exists many different frequencies. your htc could have been made to support your lte frequency, band 4 isnt very common. call and ask your provider if they support band 4. if they say they dont know what that is, then they dont support it.
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OK Lol band 4 lte ..... Its band that is rare Lol OK got it thank you very much
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Bionik_kaos said:
OK Lol band 4 lte ..... Its band that is rare Lol OK got it thank you very much
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telus supports it i think