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How many people use em? Got the invisible shield on but it makes the screen look horrible. Anyone else think the same?
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corybucher said:
How many people use em? Got the invisible shield on but it makes the screen look horrible. Anyone else think the same?
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Weird, I have my Zagg on and it looks fine. Unless of course your talking about when the screen is off.

I'm using an XtremeGuard which I got off eBay for $2.50. It is wonderful!! It had bubbles and stuff when the screen was off when I first put it on, but EVERYTHING cleared up within 2-3 days. I used a mild soapy water to put it on, so it was kinda "rainbow" looking when the screen was lit up, but all of that has since dried up. The screen is crystal clear both on and off. If you didn't know there was a screen protector on there, you would see it. You can tell by touching it, it feels a little more grippy, which I actually like. Also it hasn't intefered with the performance of the touchscreen as well, I'm 100% satisfied with it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-XtremeGUARD...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35a9e73eed

Mine is still as naked as the day I bought it. Mint condition, too.

corybucher said:
How many people use em? Got the invisible shield on but it makes the screen look horrible. Anyone else think the same?
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Mine looked terrible at first too, but after about a day, I guess the liquid fully dried and it didn't look cloudy anymore.

Bought a 3-pack from a Sprint store.
Don't use the anti-glare one. It significantly lowers the image quality.
It's akin games which use the film grain effect, except here you'd want the clarity instead of fancy effects.

Thank you all for your responses, I really appreciate it. I guess it only looks bad because I got a few scratches on the screen protector itself but I guess that's why you buy them in the first place. I might call to get a replacement if it gets any worse, these have a lifetime warranty.
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corybucher said:
Thank you all for your responses, I really appreciate it. I guess it only looks bad because I got a few scratches on the screen protector itself
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That is exactly the reason I don't use a screen protector. They are made out of plastic and will scratch easily. The glass that is covering the LCD is made out of glass and VERY difficult to scratch. Seems like a waste of money to me. I had 3 iPhones and never had a scratch in the glass.

Did not work for me
I bought an invisi shield Saturday and they put it on my phone, I have had problems typing with it. I even tried to recalibrate the typing but it was not even able to type the first letter. Therefore, I took the front shield off and i am able to type with no problem now. Sucks.. maybe they put it on wrong because my wife's phone is working fine with it on. Life time warranty on it so Im going to take it back and have them try it again.

chazglenn3 said:
That is exactly the reason I don't use a screen protector. They are made out of plastic and will scratch easily. The glass that is covering the LCD is made out of glass and VERY difficult to scratch. Seems like a waste of money to me. I had 3 iPhones and never had a scratch in the glass.
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i'm with you dude! i've never used a screen protector. still flawless!

GReddySetGO said:
I'm using an XtremeGuard which I got off eBay for $2.50. It is wonderful!! It had bubbles and stuff when the screen was off when I first put it on, but EVERYTHING cleared up within 2-3 days. I used a mild soapy water to put it on, so it was kinda "rainbow" looking when the screen was lit up, but all of that has since dried up. The screen is crystal clear both on and off. If you didn't know there was a screen protector on there, you would see it. You can tell by touching it, it feels a little more grippy, which I actually like. Also it hasn't intefered with the performance of the touchscreen as well, I'm 100% satisfied with it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-XtremeGUARD...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35a9e73eed
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How is the fit on that screen protector? Does it fit exactly all the way around? Is there a space around the edges?
Thanks!

I just got a screen protector put on mine (first time ever having one on) and now it screws up my swyping in... swype... it confuses it... messed with settings and everything.... pain in the...

+1 for Anti-Glare.
I know most people do not like them because they "reduce" the colors or quality of the screen, but I like the fake that it provides a smooth surface and doesn't leave any fingerprints compared to Crystal-Clear screen protectors

I got the Zagg (actually I am on the second one, as the first came off in my pocket and got covered with lint).
I should say that Zagg is great, they sent me a new one with no questions asked and even waived the shipping, since the replacement was requested so quickly after purchase.
In any case, I am now second guessing my decision after viewing a youtube video on the scratch resistance of the screen.
Just go to youtube and search for "HTC EVO screen test". (sorry, as a new user I am unable to post the link).

Here's the link. Pretty impressive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeoAl-94bks

I've used all kinds of screen protectors for all my devices until the ZuneHD, which is supposed to have Corning Gorilla Glass, supposedly super scratch resistant. Long story short, i pulled it out of my pocket where it was by itself and it had a nice fat scratch on the surface. Brought it back to Best Buy, got another one, and swearing to never trust any claims to scratch resistance.
Using a clairvue clear on my Evo 4g, and clairvue antiglare on a tp2, and a martin fields on a tp1, all 3 are well protected and i've never been happier.

G2 upgrade

HEy guys I've owned my G2 since Nov. of 2010 and it has the battle scars to show it. My battery door looks like CRAP. OEM battery still doesn't last me long and I have a small blemish on the top of the phone. Not to mention my hinge is loose as hell. So I devised a plan. I am going to "upgrade" my G2. Hinge and all. In total it has cost me $58.98 for the whole process.
- $2.45 for Screen protector (anti-glare / anti finger-print) 3 pack
- $29.99 OEM HTC Evo Shift 4G Battery (1500MAh)
- $16.00 OEM Battery Door Cover
- $2.84 Premium Hard Rubberized case (Black)
- $5.78 Springs for the Hinge
- $1.92 Car Charger. (Yeah I know)
But all of this from Amazon excluding the springs. I will post a link for those later when I locate it. But for $58.98 for a "overhaul" that doesn't seem too bad? I decided to buy this whole thing at one time so I know it may take a few weeks for the parts the come but hey! Doesn't hurt to make my phone look brand new?
Just wanted to share this info for those who may have been interested in doing specific things to their phone and money is a issue.

Ive heard that the touch screen for the G2 is Gorilla Glass, so since there is no scratches on it yet, there shouldnt be anytime soon (as long as you take care of it). I done the whole screen protector thing, and after awhile, it takes away from the beauty of the phone. i know - it's my opinion.
I have done the hinge spring replacement, which works EXCELLENT! The best damn thing i did for my G2! it will take you a full afternoon to do-it yourself, but it's SOOOO worth it.
I also replaced my stock battery with a Mugen Power 1800mAh Extended Battery. This is such a worthy investment. It gave me another 5 hours to my phone. I'm a HEAVY user (GPS, Navigation, games, internet, texting, email). I purchased the battery from the source company instead of depending on a third party company.

My screen is good but it seems to be impossible to keep people away from my phone. I am getting mine form HTC. So it is worth it to do the Hinge + Spring mod?

creepinm3 said:
My screen is good but it seems to be impossible to keep people away from my phone. I am getting mine form HTC. So it is worth it to do the Hinge + Spring mod?
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Yep! Well worth it! Just follow the tutorial HERE. It might be scary, but after completion. I can now pickup my phone by the screen alone, and it will not open. I can also pick the phone up from the back, and even shake it, and it still wont open. It must have been a design flaw or something, but my phone when new had a very week spring.
If its impossible to keep people away from you phone, just keep a few extra polishing cloths around to get rid of all the fingerprints. I personally just dont like screen protectors in general.. i think they take away from the aesthetics of the phone. I had a Vibrant before I upgraded to a G2, and from the first day, I put on a screen protector to prevent scratches. Well, after awhile the screen protector on the phone started to look like CRAP. I mean WHY?.. i asked myself WHY? I figured there were a team of highly paid engineers which selected the type of screen for our phones that wont scratch under normal to heavy use.. Of course there is always the exceptions, like if you work in a job with a lot of sand around. Sand is the enemy to our little touch screens, even Gorilla Glass can't hold up to sand. Anyway, please excuse my rant - it is my opinion.

Its greatly appreciated. I shall keep that in mind. I eventually take them off after about a month.
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lawalty said:
If its impossible to keep people away from you phone, just keep a few extra polishing cloths around to get rid of all the fingerprints. I personally just dont like screen protectors in general.. i think they take away from the aesthetics of the phone. I had a Vibrant before I upgraded to a G2, and from the first day, I put on a screen protector to prevent scratches. Well, after awhile the screen protector on the phone started to look like CRAP. I mean WHY?.. i asked myself WHY? I figured there were a team of highly paid engineers which selected the type of screen for our phones that wont scratch under normal to heavy use.. Of course there is always the exceptions, like if you work in a job with a lot of sand around. Sand is the enemy to our little touch screens, even Gorilla Glass can't hold up to sand. Anyway, please excuse my rant - it is my opinion.
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Sounds like your experience was with a cheap screen protector. I use Bodyguardz, and you can't tell its there, by look or feel. Its been in place for 6 months now, and no visible scratches, and very fingerprint resistant. But cheap protectors (3 pack for $2.45 the OP mention probably apply) do scratch easily and attract fingerprints and smudges like crazy. The included protector with my old AT&T (Tilt Pro 2) lasted about a month and looked like crap, like you said.
Of course, its completely a matter of personal preference. But some people on here have had scratches from what they claim is normal use. For me, I'd rather put on a protector (a good quality one, that doesn't affect the look or feel of the phone), rather then get a scratch and wish you had used a protector.

There is a screen protector that's worth $21 at BestBuy called the Zagg Shield. Is that even worth the price? Looks flimsy
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redpoint73 said:
Sounds like your experience was with a cheap screen protector. I use Bodyguardz, and you can't tell its there, by look or feel. Its been in place for 6 months now, and no visible scratches, and very fingerprint resistant. But cheap protectors (3 pack for $2.45 the OP mention probably apply) do scratch easily and attract fingerprints and smudges like crazy. The included protector with my old AT&T (Tilt Pro 2) lasted about a month and looked like crap, like you said.
Of course, its completely a matter of personal preference. But some people on here have had scratches from what they claim is normal use. For me, I'd rather put on a protector (a good quality one, that doesn't affect the look or feel of the phone), rather then get a scratch and wish you had used a protector.
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I believe its Bodyguardz. Its stored under my amazing cart. I will have to check when I get home.
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creepinm3 said:
I believe its Bodyguardz. Its stored under my amazing cart. I will have to check when I get home.
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I doubt it. Bodyguardz (dry apply, screen only type - not full body) goes 2 for $15 plus shipping. So unless you found some smoking deal, it seems unlikely they are going 3 for $2.45.
http://www.bodyguardz.com/t-mobile-g2-dry-apply-cases-screen-protectors-covers-shields-skins-films.html
If it is in fact Bodyguardz, let me know where you found that deal!

This whole post comes from Amazon. Its the only place I feel you can get a good deal on accessories to be honest or OEM
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creepinm3 said:
There is a screen protector that's worth $21 at BestBuy called the Zagg Shield. Is that even worth the price? Looks flimsy
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If you look around the Accessories subforum, you will find good things said about Zagg. While I haven't tried Zagg myself, I think they use a very similar material to Bodyguardz, if I'm not mistaken. The material of Bodyguardz is thin and very pliable/flexible, but still offers great protection.
But $21 is a bit pricey to me for just the screen protector, and only one of them.

I've got a zagg on my vibrant, put one on my wife's g2, one on the way for my son's LG Optimus. Best screen protector ever. Lifetime warranty, install on The Wife's G2 took 3 minutes (Thank God I got it right the first time!), neither of us notice they're there. IMO, worth $20.

jRi0T68 said:
I've got a zagg on my vibrant, put one on my wife's g2, one on the way for my son's LG Optimus. Best screen protector ever. Lifetime warranty, install on The Wife's G2 took 3 minutes (Thank God I got it right the first time!), neither of us notice they're there. IMO, worth $20.
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Hmm, I shall see about one of these.
-Kiyo

I have no idea why a screen protecter is needed for a G2? Especially if one uses any kind of protector casing. I have never used a screen protector and my phone has fallen off a moving car, dropped on floor a few times, used on the beach numerous times,and in out of my pockets. Not one scratch to my screen. Screen protector is a waste of money.
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LikeaG2root said:
I have no idea why a screen protecter is needed for a G2? Especially if one uses any kind of protector casing. I have never used a screen protector and my phone has fallen off a moving car, dropped on floor a few times, used on the beach numerous times,and in out of my pockets. Not one scratch to my screen. Screen protector is a waste of money.
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Here here! Totally agree!
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I agree with redpoint on this one. Although you may feel your screen is indestructible at this point, it really isn't. Just one scratch from a random thing and you'll be wishing you had a screen protector. Better safe than sorry, I'll pay that 15 bucks so I never get a scratch that will annoy me the rest of the phone's life.
I have a high quality screen protector on my Tilt2 (can't remember if it's Zagg or Bodyguardz). Some say that these nicer ones have a rubbery tacky feel about them and take away from the slickness of the screen. I must agree with that, the one I have is a bit rubbery. Most people on these forums hold the Clarivue protectors highly though. They say they have no rubbery feel and take nothing from the screen. They have many different variations of the protectors too.
http://www.clarivue.com/htc-g2tmobile-screen-protector.html

Knife vs G2 glass screen...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kwd3v4cgVc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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It is just hard to scratch the G2 glass but definitely not impossible. My first G2 somehow managed to have two fine scratches on the screen, so I knew I wanted a screen protector for my second G2. I used a Crystal Clear one before and liked it until I felt a matte finished anti-glare one. I started trashing the crystal clear one that I had on, saying that it would attract too much fingerprint and face oil. I love the anti-glare screen protector and I love the way it feels. It does take away from the screen a little but not that much.
IMO, a full rehaul of your phone could also consist of a new housing. I just took a look on eBay and the price is insane! So maybe just throwing on a case so you can forget about any aesthetic flaws that you phone may have.
But I definitely think you should do the spring/hinge fix. I think that in itself will have you satisfied with your phone! Good luck!

LikeaG2root said:
Knife vs G2 glass screen...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kwd3v4cgVc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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While fun for shock value, and possibly a decent simulation of having the phone in your pocket with your keys, there are a great many things that are harder than steel on Moh's scale, that your phone might come into contact with. Plus, there are many common types of glass treatments and coatings that resist scratches from a knife, so again, the demonstration is really not all that meaningful.

slapshot30 said:
Although you may feel your screen is indestructible at this point, it really isn't. Just one scratch from a random thing and you'll be wishing you had a screen protector.
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Exactly. Many of these same things were being said back when I was on my old HTC Kaiser. People said it did just fine without a screen protector. I took my protector off, and it did seem to do fine for a few months. But over time, I noticed fine scratches developing, and one day got a huge gouge. I really wished I had stuck with a protector. That wasn't Gorilla Glass, but it seems that some people are having similar experiences on the G2 regardless.
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I have a high quality screen protector on my Tilt2 (can't remember if it's Zagg or Bodyguardz). Some say that these nicer ones have a rubbery tacky feel about them and take away from the slickness of the screen. I must agree with that, the one I have is a bit rubbery.
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My Bodyguardz protector did seem to have a slightly tacky feel at first. Really only noticeable when trying to swipe across the screen quickly (mostly while playing games). But this actually seemed to go away after a couple weeks for some reason, and it feels nice and smooth to me now.
To me, the look and feel of a good protector is not perceptible (versus no protector), and its worth using one. But I can certainly understand if somebody that is more perceptive or picky than me, may prefer to go without.

What I hate about screen protectors...

There's almost some mathematical formula of randomness with these. Buy three, all three go on badly and are wasted. Buy another three and the same can happen. There's no learning curve that really climbs - the variables are so great - dust, wrong placement, bubbles, hairs - that each attempt is individual. And yet you can get lucky and fit one perfectly.

I find the wet apply screen protectors go on just fine if you take your time. Just make sure the screen is clean, wet it and position it. You can slide them around on the screen to get it positioned and squeegee. I've never had a problem. The little air bubbles left when your done work themselves out.

So true, there is no pro when it comes to applying these protection films
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I agree with MegaNoob. I find the wet screen protectors incredibly easy to install in comparison to dry. Before I used them I hated screen protectors because they always looked like crap but now I'm using them on both my tablet and my phone and you would hardly know they are there.
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sporez said:
I agree with MegaNoob. I find the wet screen protectors incredibly easy to install in comparison to dry. Before I used them I hated screen protectors because they always looked like crap but now I'm using them on both my tablet and my phone and you would hardly know they are there.
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A bit off topic but gonna post it anyways:
You wouldn't happen to know a good wet protector I can find from European reseller? (Nothing too fancy, but not the cheapest either)

jusatin said:
A bit off topic but gonna post it anyways:
You wouldn't happen to know a good wet protector I can find from European reseller? (Nothing too fancy, but not the cheapest either)
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I'd be interested too. Or can any protector be put on wet?

Well i cant help with European sellers but i got the ArmorSuit MilitaryShield from Amazon for $16 and it looks great. they have an installation video so you can see how its applied. Dont get zag invisible sheild they look horrible Any device ive ever seen it on has this orange peel texture to it.

MegaNoob said:
Well i cant help with European sellers but i got the ArmorSuit MilitaryShield from Amazon for $16 and it looks great. they have an installation video so you can see how its applied. Dont get zag invisible sheild they look horrible Any device ive ever seen it on has this orange peel texture to it.
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QFT on the orange peel

MegaNoob said:
Well i cant help with European sellers but i got the ArmorSuit MilitaryShield from Amazon for $16 and it looks great. they have an installation video so you can see how its applied. Dont get zag invisible sheild they look horrible Any device ive ever seen it on has this orange peel texture to it.
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Agreed with this, I got a Zagg invisible shield for my Note and it looked awful. Removed it after a day. Went on nicely though.

ArmorSuit is where it is at for the TF300T. Unfortunately for me, I got some small dust particles that got caught up when I was putting it on, but didn't notice it until after it dried. I'm starting to wonder if I'm better off just taking the protector off.

Hard to find European seller for ArmorSuit MilitaryShield for TF300T alright.
Anyone know there if there's a difference in placement of things like front camera and brightness sensor between the Pad and the Prime?
Think the screen dimensions are the same anyways.
Could just get a Prime one instead then.

mozyman said:
Hard to find European seller for ArmorSuit MilitaryShield for TF300T alright.
Anyone know there if there's a difference in placement of things like front camera and brightness sensor between the Pad and the Prime?
Think the screen dimensions are the same anyways.
Could just get a Prime one instead then.
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there are certain tricks to do a good screen protector job (most i do, work out fine)
-(optional) for the dust: have hot shower run in your bathroom for a while, untill its damp there (it takes away the dust)
-clean the screen thoroughly
-for positioning, put the protector on the device with both plastics still on, take a few pieces of tape, tape the oposite site of the peel off strip to the device when protector is in place
-clean screen again
-peel off plastic on sticky side, then aply the protector arced (less bubbles)
-now remove bubbles with a credit card, swipe em to the closest side untill they are gone
-finally , remove tape and upper plastic
worst that can happen is a few dust speckles under it (not if u use damp bathroom trick) , positioning should be ace when taped to the side

Super cheapos from eBay for me, please. They fit perfectly and you can't tell you have one. If I screw things up while applying I can always remove the specks of dust with a piece of tape. Easy as pie indeed. I'll never waste my money again on expensive "quality" ones.
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vnvman said:
Super cheapos from eBay for me, please. They fit perfectly and you can't tell you have one. If I screw things up while applying I can always remove the specks of dust with a piece of tape. Easy as pie indeed. I'll never waste my money again on expensive "quality" ones.
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The cheap ones scratch very easily, so you'll need to re-apply every few weeks ...
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I'm using this one right now:
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=221071810855&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=49668402092
Surprisingly good for the price, it fits nicely and apparently it's pretty tough too. I'll see how well it fares in the coming days, I only have it since tuesday but it's holding up nicely so far
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Psyloid said:
-(optional) for the dust: have hot shower run in your bathroom for a while, untill its damp there (it takes away the dust)
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I discovered this trick a couple years ago. It's really great and more people should know it.
I do this, and take my time, and I get a perfect application every time.

I'm not sure how you do it but when i put on screen protectors I use a piece of tesa roll after I put the Protector down once to get the dust away from under the protector. Works really well...just do it inch by inch and you will be rewarded with a really invisible shield.
If you attach one side of the protector with tesa roll to the body before you remove the backside cover of it, then you even don't have to think about positioning as you can still move it around on the screen.
Hope this helped and I didn't misunderstand the topic completely...

Anyone using ghost armor?

Well I currently have SGP dual front and back but this thing is a finger print magnet. I saw a ghost armor booth in the mall and I'm wondering if anyone uses it? How's clarity and smoothness? Orange peel? Does it pick up a lot of fingerprints? I don't want to pay a lot and then not like it!
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I use it and have on my last 6+ devices. I swear by it. Its ghost armor or nothing for me. I don't like how plastic everything else feels. Very clear and durable.
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I use it and have on my last 6+ devices. I swear by it. Its ghost armor or nothing for me. I don't like how plastic everything else feels. Very clear and durable. <br />
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So no orange peel? Also is it rubbery feeling like other wet applies? Edge to edge as well right? What case you using with it? Want to make sure it works with OEM bumper and it doesn't peel
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Gja88 said:
So no orange peel? Also is it rubbery feeling like other wet applies? Edge to edge as well right? What case you using with it? Want to make sure it works with OEM bumper and it doesn't peel
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I use it exactly because there is a ghost armor stand at the mall.
No orange peel. I haven't used other wet applies, but I don't think it feels rubbery. It is not edge to edge, the curved edges are left uncovered and even the back piece is a little small. I have the official bumper with it and the ghost armor works perfectly, the bumper actually does not even touch the front and back pieces. I have the full covering around the edges as well, which obviously does get covered.
Hope that helps.

Gja88 said:
So no orange peel? Also is it rubbery feeling like other wet applies? Edge to edge as well right? What case you using with it? Want to make sure it works with OEM bumper and it doesn't peel
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I just got a full body Ghost Armor for my N4 and I was surprised by 2 things:
1) It isn't edge to edge which I found odd because it was a wet apply.
2) Normally, I would not even look at a screen protector if it wasn't edge to edge but oddly, this protector isn't even noticeable that it isn't edge to edge. The way the N4's screen curves on its sides is so pronounced that you won't be able to see the edges of the screen protector. I've seen some other non-edge to edge protectors (SGP for example) and it looks terrible with such a "small" protector but this one seems to be oddly fine. I can't explain why this one looks fine (it's not as if they use some kind of special material or something), but I have no problems with it at all and as a bonus, it won't lift up because of any cases. Best of both worlds I'd say and I'm pretty satisfied.
I also got them to throw on a matte back protector which I think will go well with the official bumper if that ever comes back into stock. I was going to get a clear back as well but they ran out and offered me a matte back which I took. Think it was a good decision as the back will feel more solid with it than a smudgy and fingerprinty clear back.
They also put on some side protectors for the sides of the phone which I don't really like. Most likely going to rip them off, but might keep them as I will be using a case anyways and would make no difference.
Pretty satisfied overall. A little pricey at $35 for a full body kit + installation but I have always hated applying screen protectors by myself. Throw in the lifetime warranty and it's fair value I'd say.

Thanks for the replies. One last question. Does the clear one repel fingerprints well? If not how would you compare the matte one to the clear one as far as clarity is concerned?
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I used to only use ghost armor but tried Bestskinsever and now ghost armor looks like crap to me. The orange peel effect is horrible on ghost armor and on BSE it almost non existent. Just my opinion
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Gja88 said:
Thanks for the replies. One last question. Does the clear one repel fingerprints well? If not how would you compare the matte one to the clear one as far as clarity is concerned?
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The clear one repels fingerprints about as well as the screen alone, maybe a little better, which basically means it doesn't.

Im thinking about getting ghost armor im just not down with the price

benjimatt said:
Im thinking about getting ghost armor im just not down with the price
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You can order it and install it yourself and save 5$ from the installation fee. It is really easy to install yourself, although it takes a little while to cure, being a wet-apply screen protector. Personally I also don't really trust the stand at the mall near where I live, as I let the guy there do it once, and he did it quite poorly (left dust and many bubbles underneath, and actually didn't line up the cutouts right). I ended up redoing it myself ( I feel like reiterating that it is the easiest screen protector installation I have ever done). However, this is just my experience with the people at my mall, YMMV.

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You can order it and install it yourself and save 5$ from the installation fee. It is really easy to install yourself, although it takes a little while to cure, being a wet-apply screen protector. Personally I also don't really trust the stand at the mall near where I live, as I let the guy there do it once, and he did it quite poorly (left dust and many bubbles underneath, and actually didn't line up the cutouts right). I ended up redoing it myself ( I feel like reiterating that it is the easiest screen protector installation I have ever done). However, this is just my experience with the people at my mall, YMMV.
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I've generally had good experience with the stand at my mall, specifically with one guy who even when hungover (he told me) still did a great job. I've certainly had better treatment with Apple devices though, they go through so many iPhones/iPods each day that they can do it in there sleep and I find they have more difficulty with less popular, or, in this case, new devices like the Nexus 4.
With the Nexus 4 I'm a little dissatisfied with some of the application. The sides in particular, but for some reason the guy had trouble with the backing as well and there is a few air bubbles that have been bugging me. I've been considering redoing it myself, but as I've always had them do it I don't have the materials.
Do you know what I could use to reapply it at home?

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I've generally had good experience with the stand at my mall, specifically with one guy who even when hungover (he told me) still did a great job. I've certainly had better treatment with Apple devices though, they go through so many iPhones/iPods each day that they can do it in there sleep and I find they have more difficulty with less popular, or, in this case, new devices like the Nexus 4.
With the Nexus 4 I'm a little dissatisfied with some of the application. The sides in particular, but for some reason the guy had trouble with the backing as well and there is a few air bubbles that have been bugging me. I've been considering redoing it myself, but as I've always had them do it I don't have the materials.
Do you know what I could use to reapply it at home?
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I found that many of the tiny speck-like air bubbles actually dissappear by themselves after a few days, the larger ones you can sort of "push out" with your finger.
If you choose to install it yourself, they give you all the supplies you need, including a new screen protector, covered under the warranty. However, the mall stand I go to asks that you bring in your old screen protector if you peeled it off, so hang on to it.

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I found that many of the tiny speck-like air bubbles actually dissappear by themselves after a few days, the larger ones you can sort of "push out" with your finger.
If you choose to install it yourself, they give you all the supplies you need, including a new screen protector, covered under the warranty. However, the mall stand I go to asks that you bring in your old screen protector if you peeled it off, so hang on to it.
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I've never been given all the supplies before, as they do the install there and then I'm on my way. I've gone back and got them to reapply a few times previously with a few other devices, but I felt like I might just try it myself this time.
I realize most of the bubbles disappear, but it's already been over a week and there are a number of them left including one large one that I knew from the beginning would never go away on its own.

DowntownJeffBrown said:
I used to only use ghost armor but tried Bestskinsever and now ghost armor looks like crap to me. The orange peel effect is horrible on ghost armor and on BSE it almost non existent. Just my opinion
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THIS^. I literally just applied my bestskinsever, and i love it. great fit. I am not using a case at the moment tho, waiting for it in the mail currently

Replacement screen plastic protector

Has anyone looked for, or found, a replacement for the top plastic layer of the phone? I don't need one right now, but as my plastic layer is gathering scratches I'll want to replace it eventually.
I got one from Motorola for the turbo 2 in the past, but looking around I haven't seen one for the Moto z force yet.
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haven't really been actively looking for it but I asked a Verizon corporate store rep today if they had them in yet and so far no one has got them in yet.
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JasonJoel said:
Has anyone looked for, or found, a replacement for the top plastic layer of the phone? I don't need one right now, but as my plastic layer is gathering scratches I'll want to replace it eventually.
I got one from Motorola for the turbo 2 in the past, but looking around I haven't seen one for the Moto z force yet.
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Once you have a new display, to avoid future scratches,, look into buying the "flexible" glass protector product from VZW...its the one made by vzw, make sure it says "flexible".
You will not even be able to tell when it is on the Z Force.

I used a razor and removed the shattershield plastic and replaced it with the pleson (new design) tempered glass. It's amazingly better.

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I used a razor and removed the shattershield plastic and replaced it with the pleson (new design) tempered glass. It's amazingly better.
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No concerns about voiding the shatterproof warranty? Any better than just applying the pleson on top of the shattershield plastic? Still happy with the result?

I would like to know how that went. You were able to just use a straight razor and shave off the plastic? Did it damage the glass underneath at all? I can't stand this plastic!

I've never quite understood the appeal of glass screen protectors (well, aside from just liking the feel of glass), especially on a phone with a Shattershield display like ours. Why protect an unbreakable screen with a breakable screen protector???
I've used soft military-grade clear film protectors on the last 4 or 5 phones I've had, and I acknowledge that they feel different than glass, but after years with them, I'm guess I'm just used to it . I don't really miss the feel of glass. The way I look at it, this way I protect my unbreakable-but-plastic screen from scratches, and I never have to worry about cracking my protector. I've also found that they generally fit WAY better than glass ones, which rarely seem to go edge-to-edge. Just personal preference, I guess.
I've been very partial to Skinomi's TechSkin protectors. They fit like a dream, they're easy to apply (YES, the micro bubbles sometimes take a day or two to fully disappear, but they will!), and their warranty is great. I'm aware this doesn't really answer your question, but while you're waiting for the SS replacement layers to become available, I bet if you threw one of these on your phone, it would "cover up" the scratches you're accumulating while not having to add a thick, breakable layer to your phone. Just my two cents!

blynkofaneye said:
I've never quite understood the appeal of glass screen protectors (well, aside from just liking the feel of glass), especially on a phone with a Shattershield display like ours. Why protect an unbreakable screen with a breakable screen protector???
I've used soft military-grade clear film protectors on the last 4 or 5 phones I've had, and I acknowledge that they feel different than glass, but after years with them, I'm guess I'm just used to it . I don't really miss the feel of glass. The way I look at it, this way I protect my unbreakable-but-plastic screen from scratches, and I never have to worry about cracking my protector. I've also found that they generally fit WAY better than glass ones, which rarely seem to go edge-to-edge. Just personal preference, I guess.
I've been very partial to Skinomi's TechSkin protectors. They fit like a dream, they're easy to apply (YES, the micro bubbles sometimes take a day or two to fully disappear, but they will!), and their warranty is great. I'm aware this doesn't really answer your question, but while you're waiting for the SS replacement layers to become available, I bet if you threw one of these on your phone, it would "cover up" the scratches you're accumulating while not having to add a thick, breakable layer to your phone. Just my two cents!
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I just bought it from here:
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-force-droid/moto-shattershield-replacement-lens
If you have a student in your family, there's even a discount. You need to validate it though.
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xlow78 said:
I just bought it from here:
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-force-droid/moto-shattershield-replacement-lens
If you have a student in your family, there's even a discount. You need to validate it though.
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Does it come with instructions on how to remove the old one and replace it? I would very much like to remove the shattershield on mine.
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jmwils3 said:
Does it come with instructions on how to remove the old one and replace it? I would very much like to remove the shattershield on mine.
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Yes. When you scan the code it takes you to the instructional video. Good luck.
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xlow78 said:
Yes. When you scan the code it takes you to the instructional video. Good luck.
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Do you happen to have a link to the video?
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jmwils3 said:
Do you happen to have a link to the video?
https://youtu.be/3BILaq6dB24
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