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hi, i have a problem with my transformer screen; in the centre of the screen when it's black (or dark colors) it appeared a big white zone, what is it? it's backlight bleeding? also at a corner there another zone.....how can i fix i? pleaze help me!!!
I have same problem also but came from stepping on tablet. Does the warranty cover this? I call it preasure points.
Yes, thats usually caused by too much pressure on the screen. I have similar on my laptop, which was caused by a bigass shelf falling from the wall on it (the laptop survived!!!)
I dont know how it works in the states, but here damages caused by "missuse" or accidents is not covered by the normal warranty. You have to buy an extra insurance to cover those kind of damages.
if they are from stepping, why they appear only if the screen is black or a dark color??
Arathon said:
if they are from stepping, why they appear only if the screen is black or a dark color??
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Who cares? Are you going to tell Asus you stepped on it?
Just RMA and tell them it happened spontaneously or that it was always like that and then got worse recently.
In fact i'll do like you said next week, unfortunately now i'm at my parent's house and the purchase receipt is at my university residence ( and it's quite far 530km)....hoping everything will be fine, i like so much my TF101.
i'll update you next week.
Light bleeding is a common problem. You won't have a problem with warranty.
i thought that it is light bleeding but was perplexed about the one in the center of the screen that appeared in less a day..
A word of caution. I sent my transformer back for a light bleed problem and ASUS sent it back to me in worse condition than when it left. Then they had the balls to ask me to send it back to them at my expense.
No thanks, I'll live with the light bleed, but I will never purchase another asus product again.
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A word of caution. I sent my transformer back for a light bleed problem and ASUS sent it back to me in worse condition than when it left. Then they had the balls to ask me to send it back to them at my expense.
No thanks, I'll live with the light bleed, but I will never purchase another asus product again.
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mmm.... I've read lots of bad review to the asus RMA, i hope here in Italy is better but i'm not so confident...
However my problem is the zone at the center is so much annoying. let's see if they will accept it, i must come up with a good excuse for rma-ing it after 3 month after the purchase...do the lightbleeding "expand"?
if they are from stepping, why they appear only if the screen is black or a dark color??
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Because the cells in that region are permanently switched to a higher luminance? On dark colors it's easily visible but on bright colors that are already high in luminance to begin with you won't see anything. On white, you should see nothing unless the screen is capable of outputting a "whiter white."
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Because the cells in that region are permanently switched to a higher luminance? On dark colors it's easily visible but on bright colors that are already high in luminance to begin with you won't see anything. On white, you should see nothing unless the screen is capable of outputting a "whiter white."
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Yup that pretty much sums it up.
To put it in more layman terms - the display has been pushed closer to the background light than the rest of the screen, as well as been damaged.
I know on older TFT's, it was in some cases possible to disassemble it and reallign the screen to the background light plane and, if lucky, fix the issue completely. I fixed an old laptop screen that had been stepped on by doing that.
I dont think its quite as easy on a tablet though, especially since its an IPS and not TFT screen.
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Just got my fifth Nexus 7 replacement and woohooo, it has no screen separation or creaking! BUT! It has some minor backlight bleeding in the top edge of the screen. Nothing I notice on normal brightness but when I crank the brightness up to the highest I can see it. Yes I have a small case of tech OCD Should I keep the device or should any degree of backlight bleed be returned at once?
All up to you. Mine has very little screen bleed and very little lift and I'm keeping it.
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Doraso said:
Hi!
Just got my fifth Nexus 7 replacement and woohooo, it has no screen separation or creaking! BUT! It has some minor backlight bleeding in the top edge of the screen. Nothing I notice on normal brightness but when I crank the brightness up to the highest I can see it. Yes I have a small case of tech OCD Should I keep the device or should any degree of backlight bleed be returned at once?
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Personally, I would keep it. How often do you use your N7 with the brightness all the way up? I would say you're lucky to get one with no separation or creaking. Plus it doesn't seem like the minor bleeding would interfere with your everyday use of the tablet.
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All backlit LCD screens will have some light bleed.
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All backlit LCD screens will have some light bleed.
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Yep, it's a fact of life with IPS panels. I would stop looking on the Internet trying to find problems that aren't there...
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If it bothers you, exchange it. I have exchanged 5 and am keeping one with several very minor faults because faultless does not exist with the Nexus 7. If you believe those that say theirs is totally flawless, keep exchanging and you may get one eventually. I don't think there are any perfect ones though.
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If it bothers you, exchange it. I have exchanged 5 and am keeping one with several very minor faults because faultless does not exist with the Nexus 7. If you believe those that say theirs is totally flawless, keep exchanging and you may get one eventually. I don't think there are any perfect ones though.
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I have decided to keep it. Had screen separation on all 4 previous Nexus 7 tablets but this one is perfect, no sign of screenlift after 3 days of heavy use. The backlight bleed is there but so minor that Im not noticing it under normal use.
I absolutley love this device!
Have some minor backlight bleed too, going to return it before the warranty period is over
I also have some back light bleeding and I get a nasty wave effect when I put a little more than normal pressure on just the left side above the one corner i have light bleed. Im out of warranty now, so that's no longer an option. Any one have a suggestion, I found some things about the Transformer suffering from the same issues but not much help.
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I also have some back light bleeding and I get a nasty wave effect when I put a little more than normal pressure on just the left side above the one corner i have light bleed. I'm out of warranty now, so that's no longer an option. Any one have a suggestion, I found some things about the Transformer suffering from the same issues but not much help.
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The Asus and Google warranties are for one year. You can still return it.
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I also have some back light bleeding and I get a nasty wave effect when I put a little more than normal pressure on just the left side above the one corner i have light bleed. Im out of warranty now, so that's no longer an option. Any one have a suggestion, I found some things about the Transformer suffering from the same issues but not much help.
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I have had this wave/ripple effect on all the Nexus 7 tablets that I received as replacements. I think it is present on all Nexus 7 tablets out there. So its something we have to live with I guess.
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I have had this wave/ripple effect on all the Nexus 7 tablets that I received as replacements. I think it is present on all Nexus 7 tablets out there. So its something we have to live with I guess.
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thanks for the info I noticed this too however I had this happen on my nook tablet too
Has anybody else noticed a dark patch on the edge of their screen? Along the top side of my screen, I can see it going off white when browsing a website in portrait mode for example.
It's like the back light isn't working properly there or something. Anybody else got this, should I get a replacement?
It's not hugely visible but it's noticeable on a white screen at any brightness level
Idk, it's up to you. I have light bleed in my right hand corner that is always visible, unless your in a well lit room on 0% brightness. I can't decide whether or not I want to send mine back though because of how common these backlighting issues seem to be.
Yeah. Mine is flawless otherwise. Its so barely noticeable I think I'll just get used to it.
Same ha ha, other people can't even spot it when i point it out to them on auto-brightness.
Yes, I noticed mine right away, but like others have said, its hardly noticeable. It doesn't bother me at all...
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Same thing here. Most noticeable on a solid white background. I'm starting to think it's not a lighting problem but something to do with the way the panel is manufactured. If I hold the tablet in landscape so it's perpendicular to my face with my eyes lined up with the camera, the brightness is even across the panel. As soon as I tilt the bottom towards me, the brightness falls along the top edge. Makes it seem more like a viewing angle issue related to the way the layers are assembled or maybe a difference in pressure on the panel along that edge.
I decided to live with it because it's very rare that I have an app running in full screen that puts a light background across that area.
Same issue for me as well
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Same thing here. Most noticeable on a solid white background. I'm starting to think it's not a lighting problem but something to do with the way the panel is manufactured. If I hold the tablet in landscape so it's perpendicular to my face with my eyes lined up with the camera, the brightness is even across the panel. As soon as I tilt the bottom towards me, the brightness falls along the top edge. Makes it seem more like a viewing angle issue related to the way the layers are assembled or maybe a difference in pressure on the panel along that edge.
I decided to live with it because it's very rare that I have an app running in full screen that puts a light background across that area.
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I had the same issue with my first unit, did RMA and got second one. Second one had the exact same issue. Finally decided to get refund. The play store customer support said that there were few people reporting it already. This might be a design issue as well- the way device is tapered differently at the edges(backlight might not be aligned properly), two strong magnets near camera etc. Just speculating.
Dark patch here too. RMA process underway. 1/3 of screen has yellow tint. Noticeable when reading on white background. Annoyance.
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Dark patch here too. RMA process underway. 1/3 of screen has yellow tint. Noticeable when reading on white background. Annoyance.
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Keep us posted on the replacement device!
Same problem here. I received my Nexus 10 yesterday and notice dimming primarily (exclusively?) along the long edges. While reading a web page with a white background in portrait mode I found myself wondering if chrome was adding a gradient to the edges for some stylistic effect, but realized that made no sense. I observed the same problem with Firefox, and then I installed a screen testing app and observed the dimming with a solid white screen.
It sounds like this is probably a manufacturing/design error. Now I have to decide whether it's worth the rigmarole of exchanging the device, probably to no effect. I guess this is the risk you take when purchasing a device sight-unseen.
If you bought it from a store it would still be unseen, since it would be in the box. I had the same problem with the iPad 3. It took me three exchanges to get one with an acceptable screen. All of them had dark, blotchy, yellow patches. By all accounts it's due to the adhesive glue they use. We shall see what the replacement brings. Order is currently at the 'pending' stage.
I also have this on my screen. Right side when in portrait mode. You can't see it in landscape, which is weird. My wife and I have decided to keep it, though, as everything else about it is perfect. Plus, this defect, if you want to call it that, does not detract from our enjoyment and uses.
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I don't have a dark patch on mine, I just received it yesterday.
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If you bought it from a store it would still be unseen.
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To clarify, I meant that I'd never had the opportunity to use *any* Nexus 10 in person. Had I done so, and noticed the dim edge, it would have at least raised the possibility that there was a design or manufacturing issue.
Speaking of which, I examined an in-store Nook HD+ display unit yesterday and what do you know: it had the same dim edge issue.
By the way, where did you hear about the adhesive glue explanation?
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I also have this on my screen. Right side when in portrait mode. You can't see it in landscape, which is weird. My wife and I have decided to keep it, though, as everything else about it is perfect. Plus, this defect, if you want to call it that, does not detract from our enjoyment and uses.
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"Right side" doesn't really tell us anything haha.
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"Right side" doesn't really tell us anything haha.
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Very well. Same side as the camera.
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Very well. Same side as the camera.
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Mine has--I assume--the same dimness along the entire length starting about 1/4" from the bezel along the "top" camera edge. It is actually somewhat distracting when reading a book in portrait mode. If I flip the screen around so that the dimness is on the left edge, for some reason I find it much less annoying. Unsure if this is a warranty replacement issue though. I haven't found another Nexus10 to see in person yet.
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By the way, where did you hear about the adhesive glue explanation?
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It was all over the iPad forums when the iPad3 came out. Plenty of people with dodgy screens. Some reported success in leaving brightness turned up to max and plugged in for 24hrs etc to dry. But may have been placebo. It could also be an entirely different cause other than adhesive. After all, what do I know? In any case, mine's heading back, but the replacement is still stuck on 'pending'
I had a rare bit of luck. Somebody sat next to me on the bus yesterday evening and pulled out an oddly familiar black tablet. I explained the problem I was having and asked if I could examine his Nexus 10. His device had a perfect display, with no detectable dimming near the edges. So the issue appears to be a manufacturing defect, not a design flaw, and something that could in principle be solved with a replacement unit.
I called Google last night and have my RMA email. I'll ship it off this weekend.
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I had a rare bit of luck. Somebody sat next to me on the bus yesterday evening and pulled out an oddly familiar black tablet. I explained the problem I was having and asked if I could examine his Nexus 10. His device had a perfect display, with no detectable dimming near the edges. So the issue appears to be a manufacturing defect, not a design flaw, and something that could in principle be solved with a replacement unit.
I called Google last night and have my RMA email. I'll ship it off this weekend.
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I would love it if you would come back and post if the replacement has or does not have the issue.
Hey I just got my tablet Z off preorder and love it. I have noticed today that there is a bit of backlight bleed (especially on the bottom) which is really noticeable during the startup screen. Also any pressure put on the edges of the screen produces a crazy amount of light leakage. Is this normal? Are others finding this too? I would like to know before I go and exchange.
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Hey I just got my tablet Z off preorder and love it. I have noticed today that there is a bit of backlight bleed (especially on the bottom) which is really noticeable during the startup screen. Also any pressure put on the edges of the screen produces a crazy amount of light leakage. Is this normal? Are others finding this too? I would like to know before I go and exchange.
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hi mate im experiencing same problem when i hold the top right corner pressure marks come through and the screen distorts it only does it on the right side
im ringing sony on monday to ask them for replacement if the new one does this il be getting money back because its not acceptable considering the premium price
try pressing the back near your camera does it fee like its lose andn not stuck down
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hi mate im experiencing same problem when i hold the top right corner pressure marks come through and the screen distorts it only does it on the right side
im ringing sony on monday to ask them for replacement if the new one does this il be getting money back because its not acceptable considering the premium price
try pressing the back near your camera does it fee like its lose andn not stuck down
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The back near the camera is fine for me.
I am more ok with the pressure marks given how thin the tablet is. That is understandable if everyone has it. I am more concerned about the two or three spots along the bottom with severe bleeding when there is no pressure put on the screen.
Do you have the same issue like in below film ? It happens when i lightly press front or back cover in top right or left down corner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR1T5aE8Fc4
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Do you have the same issue like in below film ? It happens when i lightly press front or back cover in top right or left down corner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR1T5aE8Fc4
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I have it at the top right of the screen but I expected it as this is an LCD display.
yes mate exact same thing .dosent do it anywhere else but there strange.what are u doing about it ?
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yes mate exact same thing .dosent do it anywhere else but there strange.what are u doing about it ?
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Won't be doing anything about it mate. Isn't noticeable unless you purposely press on it.
I didn't even notice it until i saw this video.
Its visible with high brightness and if you purposely preasure top right corner in the back. Somewhat happens if you preasure front too but with much higher force. Nothing to be worried about as its only visible upon application and is not visible when you hold it. Also its quite awkward /uncomfortable to hold it with just one hand and fingers just 2cm from the edge basicly like you would be trying to pinch it.
There is no bleed otherwise.
Mine has noticeable bleed along the bottom even with no pressure applied. Ill have to exchange mine.
"noticeable during the startup screen"
I have this yet almost every tablet I have had shows allot of bleed/light at startup then gone. As for pressing around the edges, left side top none. Right side no but looks same as if I press on my monitor at home. Bottom yes but its flash of tiny light and just where I press and goes right away.
My only "problem"? is battery. It charges great I just cant use it while charging. If using it it shows charging but drains still just slower drain. So I have to not use it if I want to charge it. This is a killer for me. I will be sending it back.
Battery and blacklight bleed are killers for me. No bleed here..
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"noticeable during the startup screen"
I have this yet almost every tablet I have had shows allot of bleed/light at startup then gone. As for pressing around the edges, left side top none. Right side no but looks same as if I press on my monitor at home. Bottom yes but its flash of tiny light and just where I press and goes right away.
My only "problem"? is battery. It charges great I just cant use it while charging. If using it it shows charging but drains still just slower drain. So I have to not use it if I want to charge it. This is a killer for me. I will be sending it back.
Battery and blacklight bleed are killers for me. No bleed here..
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I exchanged the unit and now I have no bleed. Very happy. As far as the drain goes, I notice this someones on my Xperia Z phone. Im tending to think that as these devices become more powerful, the battery used to operate them is being used at a faster rate than they can be safely charged at. It sucks but not a deal breaker for me.
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I exchanged the unit and now I have no bleed. Very happy. As far as the drain goes, I notice this someones on my Xperia Z phone. Im tending to think that as these devices become more powerful, the battery used to operate them is being used at a faster rate than they can be safely charged at. It sucks but not a deal breaker for me.
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Did you have the same problem with backlight on the top right when pressed in the exchange unit?
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Did you have the same problem with backlight on the top right when pressed in the exchange unit?
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Yes as expected. I find this reasonable given the thinness of the screen. I was more concerned about the bleed without pressure.
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Yes as expected. I find this reasonable given the thinness of the screen. I was more concerned about the bleed without pressure.
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Also do you have trouble with the touch screen not fully working when the back of the tablet is on against something? Like with mine when I'm in bed and put the tablet against my pillow the touch screen won't work as much especially on the middle part. Wonder if I'm the only one has this problem.
Sorry for my bad english. It's not my native language.
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Yes as expected. I find this reasonable given the thinness of the screen. I was more concerned about the bleed without pressure.
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Why does it only do it on the left side then if its down to how thin it is
Serious light bleed on the bottom of the screen
Bump on this one..!
Guys I have exchanged 4 different units , 1 black and 3 whites Xperia Tablet Z LTE, over the past week here in Greece and ALL of them have serious backlight bleeding issues on the edges and especially on the bottom of the screen !! Really annoying when wathing full HD videos which have black bars on the top and bottom of the screen
I cant believe there are only a few reports about this issue here. Could this be a bad batch here in Greece ?
Have you all checked with the light bleed app and 100% brightness in a dark room??
I notice a bit of shadows from The buttom of the screen when viewing White websites, but it's nothing major. For me, The light bleed is really only noticable on the boot animation, and not during normal use.. Still it's quite a concerning design flaw..
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Yes it is concernig
For some people its ok, it doesnt bother them. But not for me..
Too bad, because other than that, this is an excellent tablet!! Probably the best out there.
I thought the Z tab was one of the few tablets that seemed less prone to backlight bleeding complaints. I had a 16gb which I returned for a 32 version and both were absolutely perfect with the displays. I can't say the same about any transformer pad I have tried/owned.
Rob
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Also do you have trouble with the touch screen not fully working when the back of the tablet is on against something? Like with mine when I'm in bed and put the tablet against my pillow the touch screen won't work as much especially on the middle part. Wonder if I'm the only one has this problem.
Sorry for my bad english. It's not my native language.
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Try to update your tablet with the latest software.. I experienced that before but after updating it worked fine.
Who has screen bleed issues? Please put what kind of model. Thanks.
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I had a minuscule amount on the original Nexus 7 but none from this new one (LTE model). I've only seen a few issues about screen bleed with the new Nexus
Minor towards the top that's not visible under normal use. Non-issue.
I have, at least imo, bad screen on the top right of the screen. Also have it on bottom left. Really visible against black even at lower brightness. Seriously considering to send this for warranty repair if it covers it. I have 32gb flo.
Btw, there are plenty of threads already about this, even in this section...
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I have, at least imo, bad screen on the top right of the screen. Also have it on bottom left. Really visible against black even at lower brightness. Seriously considering to send this for warranty repair if it covers it. I have 32gb flo.
Btw, there are plenty of threads already about this, even in this section...
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Same here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2497473 :crying:
Can you take a picture of yours for us?
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Same here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2497473 :crying:
Can you take a picture of yours for us?
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Sure but seems about the same as yours, maybe a little worse. Really disappointing if this is considered acceptable for lcd displays. Almost makes me want to go back to super amoled...
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Sure but seems about the same as yours, maybe a little worse. Really disappointing if this is considered acceptable for lcd displays. Almost makes me want to go back to super amoled...
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Thanks and I am waiting for your image report.
IMO, I may bring it to ASUS service center again near the end of the warranty. I also have the same thought with you, I can live with screen burn-in but not the light bleed.
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Thanks and I am waiting for your image report.
IMO, I may bring it to ASUS service center again near the end of the warranty. I also have the same thought with you, I can live with screen burn-in but not the light bleed.
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Yeah, I can live with this too, but if possible, I could do without it I'll send it in the beginning of 2014 as I won't be able to use it for a while anyway.
I'll attach bunch of pics in various lighting. Most are in dark room (natural light) or completely dark. There's a few in well lit room too. Most are on 100% brightness, some in 50% as well. Unlike you, my screen seems to be fine on blue.
Oh and the quality sucks as I took them with an ancient samsung pocket cam and my s2. S2 seems to have better quality imo
Here's a dropbox link to a zip of all the pictures: LINK
I also added a few as attachments.
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Yeah, I can live with this too, but if possible, I could do without it I'll send it in the beginning of 2014 as I won't be able to use it for a while anyway.
I'll attach bunch of pics in various lighting. Most are in dark room (natural light) or completely dark. There's a few in well lit room too. Most are on 100% brightness, some in 50% as well. Unlike you, my screen seems to be fine on blue.
Oh and the quality sucks as I took them with an ancient samsung pocket cam and my s2. S2 seems to have better quality imo
Here's a dropbox link to a zip of all the pictures: LINK
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I download them from your dropbox and the light bleed in the top right side seems a bit serious. Most cases I googled usually are obvious in black background including yours. However, my case is obvious in any cases except in the dark black background lol
Here is another picture showing the old and new Nexus 7 in Google Now screen. You can see the left edge is brighter especially in the purple area...:crying:
This is a picture of a Nexus 7 (2013) 32GB model K008. The bleeding on the top (left side of the image attached) was visible during regular use and really bothered me, so I returned the device the same evening to the store. After some convincing they swapped it with a new one. That one also has bleeding, but very minor. Not visible during normal use. I'm glad I returned the first one!
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This is a picture of a Nexus 7 (2013) 32GB model K008. The bleeding on the top (left side of the image attached) was visible during regular use and really bothered me, so I returned the device the same evening to the store. After some convincing they swapped it with a new one. That one also has bleeding, but very minor. Not visible during normal use. I'm glad I returned the first one!
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Glad to hear you can return it. Here I am in Hong Kong and I can just bring my Nexus 7 (2013) to repair instead of replacing a new one....
Here is mine. I don't know whether my shooting settings are good or not but maybe someone can help
I have screen bleed on top screen Maybe the problem is that the screw? How to.
Has anyone tried to unscrew the screw?
Hmm I don't think it is related to the screw problem, as the LCD panel and backIit should be assembled as a whole already.
It s a glue problem...
On my previous nexus, after running a few games, screen became yellow.
Bleeding =bad glue job or bad quality.