Here's my problem. I'm trying to run uTorrent and everything is slooooow. I've noticed my IP address on my laptop as 192.168.0.102 and my external is very different. I think that is my problem, NAT or something. Is there any way to forward ports on the 8525 or to put myself into a DMZ like my home router?
I've searched and searched and maybe I'm just retarded, I suppose that could be the whole issue at hand. I also made sure that I'm logged into isp.cingular so that shouldn't be the issue at hand.
Hopefully someone can help me, thanks for the time.
Taylor.
1) Why would you want to run a torrent program over a mobile network. It would be really slow, especially compared to cable. Plus you're going to bog down the wireless network and probably end up getting your account suspended or end up with insane data charges for using so much data. I'm pretty sure it is against which ever provider's TOS you have that you can not use their network for that type of activity.
2) You have no control over port forwarding or anything of that nature. Your phone's data connection is behind your provider's "main" access point. They control the ports and how the internal addressing works.
torrents
GldRush98 said:
1) Why would you want to run a torrent program over a mobile network. It would be really slow, especially compared to cable. Plus you're going to bog down the wireless network and probably end up getting your account suspended or end up with insane data charges for using so much data. I'm pretty sure it is against which ever provider's TOS you have that you can not use their network for that type of activity.
It is..it specifically states the use of file sharing or P2P apps is not allowed... they dont even allow you to tether without a laptop connect plan..you think theyre gonna let you get away with running a torrent app for long before your account gets flagged?
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Well just for the sake of information then I'll post what I tried and found out. I downloaded the 9/21/06 rom from the wiki and reflashed it so I could try Wireless Modem again instead of Internet Sharing and guess what...
Internet Sharing gives an internal IP of 192.168.0.102
Wireless Modem gives an internal IP that matches my external IP but still does not allow incoming connections.
So Internet Sharing does give the internal IP NOT my provider.
To respond about the tethering, I'm not getting the laptop connect plan because then I wouldn't be able to browse on my phone, hence negating the whole damn reason that I bought my 8525, so I can browse the internet while sitting in parking lots waiting on calls. My home cable connection costs what I pay a month for internet access on my phone you better believe I'll use it the same way.
Taylor.
PS A moderator is more than welcome to close this now as my original question has been answered by me. Thanks.
TaylorSPL said:
Well just for the sake of information then I'll post what I tried and found out. I downloaded the 9/21/06 rom from the wiki and reflashed it so I could try Wireless Modem again instead of Internet Sharing and guess what...
Internet Sharing gives an internal IP of 192.168.0.102
Wireless Modem gives an internal IP that matches my external IP but still does not allow incoming connections.
So Internet Sharing does give the internal IP NOT my provider.
To respond about the tethering, I'm not getting the laptop connect plan because then I wouldn't be able to browse on my phone, hence negating the whole damn reason that I bought my 8525, so I can browse the internet while sitting in parking lots waiting on calls. My home cable connection costs what I pay a month for internet access on my phone you better believe I'll use it the same way.
Taylor.
PS A moderator is more than welcome to close this now as my original question has been answered by me. Thanks.
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I have the same issue with the 192.168.0.102 and it sets default gateway to 192.168.0.1. This never happend with the other rom and it kills my local network because it's 192.168.0.0:255.255.255.0.
Also on the tether speed being slow! I am getting about 800-900 k, I don't call that slow and my plan is unlimited and is no longer available so I can't change anything or I loose it. I have downloaded many many gig and never flagged or cut off.
I would like to find out how to stay with the newer rom and internet sharing and just change what IP's it uses rather than change my whole network config.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Torrenting on the 8525
I just got my 8525 and I just started to try and torrent on the network. Is your unlimited data plan with AT&T\Cingular? Just curious as I was also concerned about the ramifications.
Anyone else having trouble with att tilt vpn over edge? I've had several smartphones in the past, the last being tmobile wing, and have never had any problems creating a vpn connection with url exceptions. With this new tilt it seems like I can connect the vpn only over wifi, it does not attempt to connect to the vpn when just using edge. I've reset the device several times both with and without the att customization.
Any ideas for this problem would be appreciated.
Thanks,
-J
TILT VPN Connection problems
I have been trying to make VPN connections over EDGE and 3G also. I find that the connection does get made if I connect manually, but as soon as I try to access something through IE, RD or Opera, it drops the connection. I have seen the connection maintained for up to a minute, but I cannot access anything.
I called ATT yesterday early afternoon. At that point the CSR was a proxy for the tech dept and told me to call HTC. I contacted HTC tech support and they were convinced it was an att softwae problem since the url exceptions worked correctly over wifi.
I called back ATT last night, got a csr who xfer me to a tech rep. He walked through the steps and provisioned isp.cingular apn to see if that would work. It did not. He then sent me to advanced network services where I got someone who definately was either not having a good night or had no intention of actually working that night. After his xfer to a bad extension, I called back to a csr, who then semi-understood the situation ( she was actually excellent help at the time for not being a tech person ) She put me with another advanced network services tech ( the first time she called advanced tech services she was hungup on by the same "Steve" I had encounted a few minutes earlier. Nice work Steve) who walked through the settings a few times, and then suggested I try another tilt at an att store.
Unfortunately it seems as though noone I've talked to yet has a grasp on url exceptions or what a vpn is? Noone from ATT or HTC seems to understand that its the software that's not trying to even attempt to connect to the vpn. I would be fine if it was my problem, vpn wise. I'm sure they're just doing their jobs but it's a little frustrating to pay $550 for a phone to have it no do something your other htc phone was doing last week. Anyways thats where I'm at now. I will try to go to an att store tonight and see if it works on another phone. I'm curious to know if anyone with the regular kaiser ( with the front camera ) is having a similar problem.
-J
Round 1
I called ATT yesterday early afternoon. At that point the CSR was a proxy for the tech dept and told me to call HTC. I contacted HTC tech support and they were convinced it was an att softwae problem since the url exceptions worked correctly over wifi.
I called back ATT last night, got a csr who xfer me to a tech rep. He walked through the steps and provisioned isp.cingular apn to see if that would work. It did not. He then sent me to advanced network services where I got someone who definately was either not having a good night or had no intention of actually working that night. After his xfer to a bad extension, I called back to a csr, who then semi-understood the situation ( she was actually excellent help at the time for not being a tech person ) She put me with another advanced network services tech ( the first time she called advanced tech services she was hungup on by the same "Steve" I had encounted a few minutes earlier. Nice work Steve) who walked through the settings a few times, and then suggested I try another tilt at an att store.
Unfortunately it seems as though noone I've talked to yet has a grasp on url exceptions or what a vpn is? Noone from ATT or HTC seems to understand that its the software that's not trying to even attempt to connect to the vpn. I would be fine if it was my problem, vpn wise. I'm sure they're just doing their jobs but it's a little frustrating to pay $550 for a phone to have it no do something your other htc phone was doing last week. Anyways thats where I'm at now. I will try to go to an att store tonight and see if it works on another phone. I'm curious to know if anyone with the regular kaiser ( with the front camera ) is having a similar problem.
-J
Sorry for that last double post. I did go back to the att kiosk again today and tried another tilt, which had the same results. I decided to return the one I had purchased and think i may try the regular htc kaiser with the front camera.
If anyone can verify that that version of phone works with pptp, that would be great.
From your last message I tried a few other things and I too was able to manually connect ( even get a prompt for login credentials to the vpn ) however the IE still will not try to connet with the url exception or keep the vpn connection open after IE is opened.
It's sad to think the att tilt is not working in thie regard. It takes away quite a bit of functionality for those who do use the vpn feature.
-J
PIE will "ignore" exceptions for work connection using EDGE
I see similar problem with 8525 at&t WM 5.0 device (HTC Hermes) exact version Microsoft ® Windows Mobile™ Version 5.0 with the Messaging and Security Feature Pack. 5.0 OS 5.1.478 (Build 15706.3.5.2)
PIE will "ignore" exceptions for work connection using EDGE. However other applications like “ActiveSync” and “Terminal Service Client” work properly.
If Wi-Fi connection used for Internet, PIE as well works properly.
FYI on previous device 8525 Cingular
Microsoft ® Windows Mobile™ Version 5.0 OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0)
work exceptions works with PIE
it continues...
I ordered htc kaiser, had it shipped opened it, configured, and the results were.....
it would use work exceptions as it should, dialing the vpn when using PIE and calling trying to access a host in the exceptions list.
It did not however want to connect to the host even after establishing a connection with the vpn server.
I dont know why, but I thought of checking the ip address with PocketLan on the gprs interface. The ip address was a 10.x.x.x but the kicker was the subnet mask using 255.0.0.0. That may cause a problem with routing as my vpn tunnel is not a full 10/8 but still a 10/16. Anyway I decided to try the online tech chat and spoke with "Marcus"
I asked if there had been any changes in the last month or so on as far as ip address scopes using wap.cingular He said yes. I'm still not sure if that was actually the case or not . I went ahead and upgraded to the pda connect unlimited to use the isp.cingular, as the "pda personal max" just uses wap.cingular.
I had to connect several times with the isp.cingular to have the connection get a public ip address rather than a nat'd 10.x.x.x. It DOES now work properly with url exceptions, connecting the vpn, the whole ball of wax with isp.cingular
Unfortunately I had already returned the ATT Tilt so I dont have any way to test if it was the att software causing it or not. If anyone would like to let me borrow one for a few days we can do that
I am going to test with another vpn connection using a 192.168 or 172.16 etc. ip scope and see if it works with wap.cingular getting a 10.x.x.x address.
Anyways, thats it for now. I'll post again after the vpn test with the different scope.
Thanks,
-J
Today I setup a vpn server with a 192.168.x.x scope. Using wap.cingular i was able to connect to the vpn and hosts within the vpn.
I tried again to connect to the 10.x.x.x vpn and try to edit the routing table using the PocketLan but each time I try to edit something it returns an error.
I'll have to try to find another utility or see if there a way to edit the routing table.
I'm hoping theres a way to change the default route for the 10.x network.
Here's some of the info when connecting over a wap.cingular connection
ip: 10.67.x.x
gateway: 10.67.x.x ( same as ip address )
subnet mask: 255.0.0.0/8
DNS: 66.209.10.201, 66.102.163.231
WINS: 10.11.12.13, 10.11.12.14 ( kind of hard to imagine any reason for wins entries? 10-11-12-13 seems like they may just be fake address. I dont know how window mobile does it's resolution, but that doesnt seem like it would be in the customers interest to be pointed to non-existant wins, if thats what they are. This may just be place holder entries for the PocketLAN software?)
Here's some of the info when connecting over a isp.cingular connection
ip: 166.128.x.x
gateway: 166.128.x.x ( same as ip address )
subnet mask: 255.255.0.0/16
DNS: 209.183.48.11, 208.183.48.10
WINS: 10.11.12.13, 10.11.12.14 ( same comments as before )
See Arin Whois for this netblock
OrgName: Service Provider Corporation
OrgID: SPC-10
Address: 442 Route 202-206 North
Address: # 485
City: Bedminster
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 07921-0523
Country: US
NetRange: 166.128.0.0 - 166.255.255.255
CIDR: 166.128.0.0/9
NetName: NETBLK-CDPD-B
NetHandle: NET-166-128-0-0-1
Parent: NET-166-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: NS1.WIRELESSDATASPCO.ORG
NameServer: NS.CDPDSPCO.ORG
Comment:
RegDate: 1993-07-09
Updated: 2005-01-07
RTechHandle: WDSPC-ARIN
RTechName: WDSPCo Helpdesk
RTechPhone: +1-215-489-7599
RTechEmail: [email protected]
OrgTechHandle: WDSPC-ARIN
OrgTechName: WDSPCo Helpdesk
OrgTechPhone: +1-215-489-7599
OrgTechEmail: [email protected]
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-11-02 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
I just thought of testing tracreroutes form both isp and wap.cingular. It does then show the problem with the ip information when trying to route.
When using the tilt though at first, none of this seemed possible at the time ( as I thought I was going a little nuts ) since the url exceptions never seem to attempt to connect to the vpn at all. As if the exceptions were ignored when using anything except WIFI.
Thats it for now. Post something new later.
-J
jakedahs,
Very informative. Looks like its' been a few weeks. New insights?
Best,
Things are still working good with the kaiser and the isp.cingular. I haven't come across another ATT Tilt again to test it out again. Any other things you can think to test to put on this forum?
Thanks,
-J
LOL! I'm so far behind, I don't have a clue.
Tilt and VPN PPTP
jakedahs said:
I called ATT yesterday early afternoon. At that point the CSR was a proxy for the tech dept and told me to call HTC. I contacted HTC tech support and they were convinced it was an att softwae problem since the url exceptions worked correctly over wifi.
I called back ATT last night, got a csr who xfer me to a tech rep. He walked through the steps and provisioned isp.cingular apn to see if that would work. It did not. He then sent me to advanced network services where I got someone who definately was either not having a good night or had no intention of actually working that night. After his xfer to a bad extension, I called back to a csr, who then semi-understood the situation ( she was actually excellent help at the time for not being a tech person ) She put me with another advanced network services tech ( the first time she called advanced tech services she was hungup on by the same "Steve" I had encounted a few minutes earlier. Nice work Steve) who walked through the settings a few times, and then suggested I try another tilt at an att store.
Unfortunately it seems as though noone I've talked to yet has a grasp on url exceptions or what a vpn is? Noone from ATT or HTC seems to understand that its the software that's not trying to even attempt to connect to the vpn. I would be fine if it was my problem, vpn wise. I'm sure they're just doing their jobs but it's a little frustrating to pay $550 for a phone to have it no do something your other htc phone was doing last week. Anyways thats where I'm at now. I will try to go to an att store tonight and see if it works on another phone. I'm curious to know if anyone with the regular kaiser ( with the front camera ) is having a similar problem.
-J
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I too am having issues with my Tilt and VPN. So when I got the Tilt 10 days ago, I had a blackberry 8300 (Curve), when i left the store they had me on the same BlackBerry Data plan. The VPN worked fine - Perfectly in fact. A few days later when I questioned why I was still using a blackberry plan the CSR at AT&T said I should be on a PDA data plan and changed my service. After that the VPN stopped working. I contacted AT&T chat support and also called their complex data device support department and after changing a bunch of settings on the phone they finally gave up and said they could not support the VPN option. Nice Huh?
When I get home I am going to try connecting over WiFi and trying the VPN. This should tell me if the routing / VPN issue is related to traffic over AT&T or if there is something wrong with the phone.
Additionally, when the VPN worked it used to show a " balloon status " telling me VPN was connecting. Now it no longer does that. Even if I do force the VPN to connect and then try to use the connection is disconnects immediately.
I'm guessing you're going to have the same result. If you'd like we can run through some tests using different scopes of vpn's. I'd be interested in trying the tilt again since I know the kaiser I have works ok and I'm not crazy
VPN
jakedahs said:
I'm guessing you're going to have the same result. If you'd like we can run through some tests using different scopes of vpn's. I'd be interested in trying the tilt again since I know the kaiser I have works ok and I'm not crazy
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What kind of tests were you thinking?
wap.cingular - isp.cingular / netowrk settings
jakedahs said:
I ordered htc kaiser, had it shipped opened it, configured, and the results were.....
it would use work exceptions as it should, dialing the vpn when using PIE and calling trying to access a host in the exceptions list.
It did not however want to connect to the host even after establishing a connection with the vpn server.
I dont know why, but I thought of checking the ip address with PocketLan on the gprs interface. The ip address was a 10.x.x.x but the kicker was the subnet mask using 255.0.0.0. That may cause a problem with routing as my vpn tunnel is not a full 10/8 but still a 10/16. Anyway I decided to try the online tech chat and spoke with "Marcus"
I asked if there had been any changes in the last month or so on as far as ip address scopes using wap.cingular He said yes. I'm still not sure if that was actually the case or not . I went ahead and upgraded to the pda connect unlimited to use the isp.cingular, as the "pda personal max" just uses wap.cingular.
I had to connect several times with the isp.cingular to have the connection get a public ip address rather than a nat'd 10.x.x.x. It DOES now work properly with url exceptions, connecting the vpn, the whole ball of wax with isp.cingular
Unfortunately I had already returned the ATT Tilt so I dont have any way to test if it was the att software causing it or not. If anyone would like to let me borrow one for a few days we can do that
I am going to test with another vpn connection using a 192.168 or 172.16 etc. ip scope and see if it works with wap.cingular getting a 10.x.x.x address.
Anyways, thats it for now. I'll post again after the vpn test with the different scope.
Thanks,
-J
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Since they had me change my plan and settings around I called and confirmed that I now have the PDA Connect Unlimited plan. However, in the phone's connection settings what should the two network and subsequent individual network setting be? Mine was set to Media Net and Media Net.
I tried setting it to ATT ISP but it still did not work.
I just use isp.cingular all the time. Have you created work url exceptions for your vpn connection? The problem I was having when I had the tilt is even though I had the exceptions it would never attempt to dial the vpn when going to a web site on the vpn network. I'm thinking it may have been ATT that cripled the phone somewhat. The regular HTC Kaiser I have now works fine.
VPN - TILT
So I confirmed that if I use my WiFi connection the VPN works perfectly.
There is some issue with routing over AT&T data network. I tried chatting with their online chat support and they could not give me the settings I needed. It was clearly beyond their scope of knowledge. I will try calling their complex data support department to see if I can get the right settings.
How can a company offer data services and not understand their own network?
Vpn - Tilt - Settings
I found this posting at the cingular.com forum.
Since I need to call tomorrow to confirm my provisioning and my data plan subscription I cannot tell if they will work but I thought I would make the info public.
Here's what I've done to VPN using L2TP successfully... (someone else)
- Have PDA Unlimited Plan
- Call to have your account "provisioned" to use isp.cingular
- Create a new connection using the isp.cingular settings
- Configure device to always use that connection
- Create a new VPN connection
- Import appropriate certificates (if necessary)
- Disable (preferably remove) Proxy settings in Registry
- Create an Exception list for Intranet addresses
- Configure device networks to use isp.cingular for Internet access and vpn for 'Your Work/Intranet' network
One thing I have noticed is that if I let the device connect automagically to VPN, it will disconnect after a short period of inactivity. If I manually/force connect to VPN, it stays that way until I disconnect session.
I can connect either via 3G or Edge with no issues/problems.
VPN Access over anything on the tilt would be nice
I am unable to either one of my 2 vpn's using any connection configuration. I It seems like it wants to connect but then gives me an error msg telling me to check username and password.
Can anyone shed anylite what I'm doing wrong?
Tilt Vpn over Edge
With a little patience i figured it out! if you connect to your VPN first and then go to IE it will disconnect you. But if you go to IE, Opera, whatever first and then go to the address that you have in your exception list the tilt will connect to MediaNet and then connect to your VPN server and work!
Anyone try using a PPTP VPN and get it working? My linux laptop and old iphone 3g connect fine to this end point, but the Epic fails almost immediately. Ideas?
Thanks
Actually, I tried this myself and had it fail as well (although I couldn't test it with another client ie my laptop at the time). I've also had many other problems getting more than a few other applications to connect: (see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775836)
I'm seriously thinking there is some firewalling/port blocking that was built into this phone. I wouldn't say it's built into the networks because both sprint and clear connections exhibit exact same applications not working (ports blocked?) and thus I'd guess port blocking in the config files of the phone. I'll research the issue more in depth after I get my phone exchanged first (gotta take it back and rebuy it to get my 2 year discount :\ don't wanna root before)
Hey, I was hoping I could get some help with this. I must be doing something wrong because I've spent a ridiculous amount of time on this project and have nothing to show for it.
I want to run a mobile hotspot on my phone, but not nearly enough to justify paying Verizon an extra $30/month for tethering. I'd only use it a few times a month and wouldn't push a lot of data thru, plus I'm paying them for an "unlimited" data plan - I won't get into that, you know where I'm coming from. I know they probably won't do anything about it since I'm using it so little, but I want to add an extra layer of security via an SSH tunnel or a VPN. I'm sure they just have to run a very basic report on their system to catch somebody who's tethering, and who knows when some manager will tell them to run it on every user vs just the high bandwidth ones? They could force me onto a more expensive plan, disable my account, throttle my connection, or just block any port an Android phone doesn't normally use, and they could do all that automatically pretty easily. If all my tethering data is encrypted they'd have to do some actual work to prove I'm tethering and probably won't think it's worth their time.
I installed OpenSSH on my home PC, forwarded some ports, and put the SSHTunnel app on my phone and it works great. It seamlessly moves all traffic over my SSH tunnel, except for the mobile hotspot. Which was kind of the point of the whole exercise! I looked all over the place but could not find a way to resolve this.
Next I looked at setting up a VPN so I loaded TomatoVPN on my router. The default VPN (OpenVPN) option for that firmware is IPSec with a CA certificate, so I went about setting that up. Apparently the default Android VPN client doesn't work well with IPSec because I can't get it to work - it keeps prompting me for a username and password, but it won't accept my router's admin credentials. None of the tutorials mention that prompt and I can't get around it. I messed around with an IPSec PSK VPN but couldn't get Android to connect to that either.
I looked into PPTP a bit but they say it's not supported by Linksys or OpenWRT, and from my experience Tomato doesn't appear to work with it either. I was going to put a PPTP server on my PC but saw somewhere that many routers can't forward PPTP requests from a WAN into the LAN.
So I went back to the IPSec approach, figuring the problem is with the Android client. I tried putting OpenVPN on my phone, but got stuck where I have to register a tun.ko file using the terminal. I don't even know if I found the right tun.ko. Then I realized I was trying to install an app to configure an app that installs another app and maybe I wasn't going about this the right way.
Does anybody have any advice? How should I approach this?
Here's what I'm using
Phone: Rooted HTC Thunderbolt
Carrier: Verizon
Ugh, looks like Verizon is 1 step ahead of me:
jbenisek.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/android-2-1-and-2-2-vpn-pptp-over-verizon/
Well, that sucks.
Hi,
Firstly I should introduce myself, my name is George, live in Essex and have a passion for cars and gadgets.
I've been roaming this forum since I had my first android device a HTC Hero and try and use search as much as possible rather than repeating other peoples problems but I am properly stuck with this one..
To be short,
Device Details:
Device: Google Nexus 4
Android Version: 4.2.1
Carrier: Orange (EE)
Problem: Portable hotspot is active and I can connect to it from various devices but there is no data pass through.
Solutions tried:
Changing the APN type to every possible solution mentioned (i.e consumer broadband etc)
Using both open and sercured sercurity on the hotspot
Connecting using everything from another phone to my Google Chromebook and all imbetween
I've read there has been mention of Orange blocking this but most people find this isn't the case and its usually fixed via the APN.
The only thing that looks slightly odd is that an ipconfig on my windows machine(s) shows 192.168.xxx.xxx yet the IP address displayed by my Nexus is 10.166.xxx.xxx and if I ping my Nexus's IP from my machine i do get a response.... (all when connected to the hotspot)
Even with a ip release/renew still picks up 192.168
So that is my issue....
I can't think of anything else bar a factory reset which i'd rather not do just yet so thought i'd ask here first I geuinely searched everywhere!
any help would be much appreciated....
Don't mean to bump this but if anyone could offer any advice it would be much appreciated!
Even if someone could just confirm they are using the Orange/EE network with the Nexus 4 and has it working?
Thank you!!
i'm also on orange (EE).
bummer. mine's not working either. i thought it was but i think i was connecting to my router's wifi instead.
i also tried bluetooth tethering but couldn't get that working at all.
A sort of "me too", here: I'm also an Orange (EE) customer who can't get WiFi (or Bluetooth) tethering to work. However, USB tethering works fine - just appears to install a RNDIS virtual Ethernet adapter, and then just works.
Using Wireshark, I noticed that DNS lookups (which use the phone as a DNS server/ proxy) actually work. However, SYNs for connections to hosts on the Internet go unanswered. I'm beginning to suspect that the phone just isn't forwarding packets from the WiFi interface to the cell interface (but no idea why)
As a sort of aside: I'm pretty sure this used to work on my Motorola Atrix via Orange.
Having the exact same problem, running CM10.1.
Have messed around with APN settings but does nothing, laptop connects phone and even shows as having internet access but trying to visit any site just times out.
I have tried the exact same hotspot configuration with a giffgaff (O2) sim card and it works fine, so it must be Orange!