With CyanogenMod 10.1 now being "stable" on the XT907 (CM 10.1.3), why do all the devs insist on building on 10.2/4.3? Don't get me wrong, I think the work anyone is doing for free/enjoyment is great. I have just found that most of the "bleeding edge" ROMs are a little to "buggy".
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jbaumert said:
With CyanogenMod 10.1 now being "stable" on the XT907 (CM 10.1.3), why do all the devs insist on building on 10.2/4.3? Don't get me wrong, I think the work anyone is doing for free/enjoyment is great. I have just found that most of the "bleeding edge" ROMs are a little to "buggy".
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Development is always going to be based on the latest AOSP version because the device trees will also be updated to reflect. With that being said, many of the 4.3 ROMs are no longer buggy. It is all based on the install steps and if you do it right, there aren't any bugs.
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Being a total Android n00b, I just finished converting my SE X10 mini pro from stock to MiniCM-2.1.9+ nAa-11 kernel, and now I want to go on taking care of my ZTE Blade, but as far as I have seen by now, development for the ZTE Blade is quite different.
The official stable CM7 seems to be stuck at 7.1.0 since autumn, somewhere it was mentioned that nightlies have been discontinued, I could not find any info on kernel development, and progress only goes on with builds called KANGs?
Has official CM7 development shifted to CM9 only?
Can someone explain please, what KANG means?
Which CM 7.2 KANG is the current recommendation (I read about targetBSP, BurgerZ, burstlam and sej7278) and what are the differences?
You can say these as unofficial nightlies built by other people with their own small modifications but with all the official CM updates.
The names you mentioned are the one who built them
The one that i found fastest was the burstlam build but they're all pretty similar....except..targetbsp's version is more like a vanilla version meaning using all official cm updates only no extra mods etc. s
CM7 is still being developed, the only thing that stopped were the nightly builds, think it was hd failure on the server or something. CyanogenMod recently took donations for new servers, so they should be back up & running soon.
KANGs are just versions built from CM7 source, but not by CyanogenMod. There isn't much real development going on with them. They're just more recent because the CM7 nightly builds stopped months ago.
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CM7 is still being developed, the only thing that stopped were the nightly builds, think it was hd failure on the server or something. CyanogenMod recently took donations for new servers, so they should be back up & running soon.
KANGs are just versions built from CM7 source, but not by CyanogenMod. There isn't much real development going on with them. They're just more recent because the CM7 nightly builds stopped months ago.
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great information included in this post had no idea that the cyanogen servers had some problems thanks for the information mate
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Being a total Android n00b, I just finished converting my SE X10 mini pro from stock to MiniCM-2.1.9+ nAa-11 kernel, and now I want to go on taking care of my ZTE Blade, but as far as I have seen by now, development for the ZTE Blade is quite different.
The official stable CM7 seems to be stuck at 7.1.0 since autumn, somewhere it was mentioned that nightlies have been discontinued, I could not find any info on kernel development, and progress only goes on with builds called KANGs?
Has official CM7 development shifted to CM9 only?
Can someone explain please, what KANG means?
Which CM 7.2 KANG is the current recommendation (I read about targetBSP, BurgerZ, burstlam and sej7278) and what are the differences?
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Go for Burstlam's build. Has good options for UI customisation and also has lesser battery consumption.
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Hey XDA,
So I came from the Toro GNex and really enjoyed both Muzzy and Shiny's roms since they were both a very vanilla version of AOSP.
Does anyone know of any roms, specifically for Verizon, that are pretty close to vanilla AOSP? I would prefer stability over custom features that many devs have added to their versions of AOSP.
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Hey XDA,
So I came from the Toro GNex and really enjoyed both Muzzy and Shiny's roms since they were both a very vanilla version of AOSP.
Does anyone know of any roms, specifically for Verizon, that are pretty close to vanilla AOSP? I would prefer stability over custom features that many devs have added to their versions of AOSP.
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Since the G2 didn't come with an AOSP, people have mostly been using AOKP or CM to make their vanilla-ish ROMs. I haven't seen anything that's just plain AOSP.
Have you tried other ROMs?
ddzado said:
Since the G2 didn't come with an AOSP, people have mostly been using AOKP or CM to make their vanilla-ish ROMs. I haven't seen anything that's just plain AOSP.
Have you tried other ROMs?
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I've been pretty swamped at work, so I haven't had a lot of time for crack flashing any AOSP roms. Currently I'm running debloated stock.
I didn't realize PA or CM were close to vanilla AOSP, do you recommend giving them a shot/are they stable at this point?
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I've been pretty swamped at work, so I haven't had a lot of time for crack flashing any AOSP roms. Currently I'm running debloated stock.
I didn't realize PA or CM were close to vanilla AOSP, do you recommend giving them a shot/are they stable at this point?
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So I'm on CM11 using the nightly build from 1/31. You can try the latest nightly, but there' have been reported issues. I'm not familiar with them though. There's a lot of talk on the G+ CM community. I'd join that anyway.
Whatever you do, do a complete backup so you can just revert back if something isn't to your liking.
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So I'm on CM11 using the nightly build from 1/31. You can try the latest nightly, but there' have been reported issues. I'm not familiar with them though. There's a lot of talk on the G+ CM community. I'd join that anyway.
Whatever you do, do a complete backup so you can just revert back if something isn't to your liking.
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Thanks for the advice, very helpful!
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Thanks for the advice, very helpful!
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I'm on PA 4.0 Beta 6 and I really like it. There is a new 4.1 version out that I think is good, but it took out some of the customization (so it's probably worth trying both to see which you like). PA is vanilla I think...I've ran it for so long I don't have a reference point any more haha. I came from a Toro GNex on PA 3.99.
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I'm on PA 4.0 Beta 6 and I really like it. There is a new 4.1 version out that I think is good, but it took out some of the customization (so it's probably worth trying both to see which you like). PA is vanilla I think...I've ran it for so long I don't have a reference point any more haha. I came from a Toro GNex on PA 3.99.
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Also came from toro Gnex and used vanir there. Now I use PA.:good:
For the record, ParanoidAndroid is normally FAR from pure vanilla AOSP, it's only vanilla-ish now because the main features(hybrid engine, Hover(the Halo replacement), per-app dpi, etc.) are not finished yet. That being said, stability is never really an issue(all ROMs have issues at the moment, at least until the new 4.4 kernel sources can be implemented). I factory flashed my manta last weekend, and I forgot how bare pure AOSP really is. Most custom features add to the experience, and if you don't like them you can just turn them off. :good:
Still, the G2 is lacking a true AOSP ROM. Again, PA doesn't count because eventually it will re-add all the features in a few months time. There's nothing like Purity or RastaKat for the G2. I was contemplating learning how to port Purity over to the G2 earlier, seeing as how Purity has a hammerhead version. I just don't have the time at the moment.
I'll admit I get completely baffled with all the S4 variants.
1. Put simply is there a UK GT-I9505 Cyanogenmod 12 or 12.1 nightly?
2. What's device name to Cyanogenmod call it?
My GT-I9505 is from Everything Everywhere in the UK (who still haven't released lollipop).
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1. Yes.
2. jfltexx.
Perfect. Thanks.
jfltexx Snapshots stopped in February 2014 with M3. Which is weird as my LG G Pad last got a stable build in November 2014 with M12. That's a bit worrying if I want a stable/reliable CM build.
p.s. Stable being used generally. I'm aware CM used to use Stable as a specific naming convention.
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Perfect. Thanks.
jfltexx Snapshots stopped in February 2014 with M3. Which is weird as my LG G Pad last got a stable build in November 2014 with M12. That's a bit worrying if I want a stable/reliable CM build.
p.s. Stable being used generally. I'm aware CM used to use Stable as a specific naming convention.
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Nightlies are more stable then the snapshots. So don't let naming misguide you. Just go for either the nightlies or the one in my signature. Ps go for the 12.1 branch, more stable then the 12 branch.
Really?
I thought the whole point was Stables were signed off?
Nightlies also updated daily which is bewildering. I just want a stable Android 5.1 release really. I'm not especially interested in the "cutting edge".
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Really?
I thought the whole point was Stables were signed off?
Nightlies also updated daily which is bewildering. I just want a stable Android 5.1 release really. I'm not especially interested in the "cutting edge".
Thanks
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The thing is: a rom may work perfectly for me and for you it gives various problems.
Bugs vary from device to device.
For instance, most roms I have tried on my device have worked perfectly (Thankfully).
But I saw other people who reported various issues with the same rom.
You will have to try for yourself.
the GPE rom by Danvdh is one of the most stable roms I have tried. It's still 5.0.1 though.
Resurrection Remix with Alucard kernel also works fine for me.
You might also try FlexOS. People say it has nice battery life.
AICP was also stable for me.
SaberMod CM12.1 stable too. But haven't tried it for some time.
They are all based on CM12.1.
You might also try the official CM12.1 Optimized build.
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The thing is: a rom may work perfectly for me and for you it gives various problems.
Bugs vary from device to device.
For instance, most roms I have tried on my device have worked perfectly (Thankfully).
But I saw other people who reported various issues with the same rom. You will have to try for yourself.
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I'd rather stick with a stable ROM that's been signed off and had some quality control applied to it for that very reason. I prefer to just install a ROM and be done with it (maybe upgrading every now and again OTA) .
Like you say otherwise you could be fine (probably) or maybe not.
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You might also try the official CM12.1 Optimized build.
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Interesting idea. Is this much more optimised for the S4 than the regular CM12.1 nightlies?
Being a fork isn't there a chance it'll get out of sync with the CM12.1 nightlies?
Thanks for the info on the other ROMs.
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Nightlies are more stable then the snapshots. So don't let naming misguide you.
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Could someone explain how this is the case please? Thanks.
bradavon said:
I'd rather stick with a stable ROM that's been signed off and had some quality control applied to it for that very reason. I prefer to just install a ROM and be done with it (maybe upgrading every now and again OTA) .
Like you say otherwise you could be fine (probably) or maybe not.
Interesting idea. Is this much more optimised for the S4 than the regular CM12.1 nightlies?
Being a fork isn't there a chance it'll get out of sync with the CM12.1 nightlies?
Thanks for the info on the other ROMs.
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The optimized builds are developed by the same developer as the nightlies for the s4. So they pretty much go head to head.
Oh nice thanks.
Do the latest CM12.1 nightlies have the ability to turn the S4 legacy Menu button into an App-Switcher button? It's irritating having to hold down the Home button to switch between apps.
Lastly, is there anything major left in CM11 not in CM12.1 now? Is there a list somewhere?
I understand missing features is one of the reasons a CM12.1 Snapshot hasn't been released.
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Oh nice thanks.
Do the latest CM12.1 nightlies have the ability to turn the S4 legacy Menu button into an App-Switcher button? It's irritating having to hold down the Home button to switch between apps.
Lastly, is there anything major left in CM11 not in CM12.1 now? Is there a list somewhere?
I understand missing features is one of the reasons a CM12.1 Snapshot hasn't been released.
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Seeing as android M is close development for CM12.1 will stop at some point and CM13 will start.
GDReaper said:
The thing is: a rom may work perfectly for me and for you it gives various problems.
Bugs vary from device to device.
For instance, most roms I have tried on my device have worked perfectly (Thankfully).
But I saw other people who reported various issues with the same rom.
You will have to try for yourself.
the GPE rom by Danvdh is one of the most stable roms I have tried. It's still 5.0.1 though.
Resurrection Remix with Alucard kernel also works fine for me.
You might also try FlexOS. People say it has nice battery life.
AICP was also stable for me.
SaberMod CM12.1 stable too. But haven't tried it for some time.
They are all based on CM12.1.
You might also try the official CM12.1 Optimized build.
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+1 for the CM12.1 Optimized build. I had low mobile signal which resulting in big battery drain in the otherwise awesome Danvdh 5.0.1 GPE rom. Had to ditch it.
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The optimized builds are developed by the same developer as the nightlies for the s4. So they pretty much go head to head.
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Thanks for this.
Why are the optimized builds so far behind? The latest CM12.1 optimized build for the S4 looks to be 2015-06-16 but there's a regular CM12.1 nightly dated 2015-06-25.
Hey!
I was wondering which ROM available for lux isn't based on Cyanogenmod? With the current situation, I don't know if anything based on CM is good in the long run (although I may be wrong). Until LineageOS for lux comes out I'd like to try that.
Thanks
Prosis said:
Hey!
I was wondering which ROM available for lux isn't based on Cyanogenmod? With the current situation, I don't know if anything based on CM is good in the long run (although I may be wrong). Until LineageOS for lux comes out I'd like to try that.
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AOSP roms
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AOSP roms
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On the AOSP Extended ROM they thank Cyanogenmod. I thought that meant it was based on it.
I found no mention of CM on the Validus ROM. Is that one?
Prosis said:
On the AOSP Extended ROM they thank Cyanogenmod. I thought that meant it was based on it.
I found no mention of CM on the Validus ROM. Is that one?
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It's not based on CM, but it has features cherry-picked from CM sources. It's still an AOSP base though.
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It's not based on CM, but it has features cherry-picked from CM sources. It's still an AOSP base though.
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Does that mean its development is in jeopardy?
Prosis said:
Does that mean its development is in jeopardy?
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No. CM development has ceased but the team has moved on to create LineageOS, which is a fork of CM afaik. AOSP will never be in jeopardy in the foreseeable future as that is Android OS itself without google services.
xDroid4Lifex said:
No. CM development has ceased but the team has moved on to create LineageOS, which is a fork of CM afaik. AOSP will never be in jeopardy in the foreseeable future as that is Android OS itself without google services.
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Oh that's right! They can just use the updates from LineageOS to update the features they got from CM.
Thanks
In the meantime I've read that it's best not to use CM until LineageOS comes out (thus my question). Is that exaggerated?
Right now i only see a resurrection remix one in alpha stage (not sure if its still being developed tho) , the rest are all touchwiz-based.
Anyone knows any other aosp roms available? Thanks!
[Xperia XA user said:
;74608842]Right now i only see a resurrection remix one in alpha stage (not sure if its still being developed tho) , the rest are all touchwiz-based.
Anyone knows any other aosp roms available? Thanks!
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There's a lineage os which is also in alpha
All of AOSP mentioned above are not yet in its stable form. You may take the risk of trying them
Is there any reason why there really aren't any AOSP ROMs for the S8 yet? Is it just harder to do these days, or can no one be bothered? Just curious.
L0cke said:
Is there any reason why there really aren't any AOSP ROMs for the S8 yet? Is it just harder to do these days, or can no one be bothered? Just curious.
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It is and has been for a very long time incredibly difficult. Touchwiz does not have a HAL that looks anything like the one for aosp, so a porter would need to do an incredible amount of engineering to get anAOSP rom to work on Samsung hardware